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7:26 AM
This is not an answer, is it?
 
@JeanneDark indeed, it's NAA
 
Thanks
^ Unregistered user so they can't delete their post
 
@JeanneDark Huh, what? So they can post and edit their posts, but not delete them? That makes little sense to me
 
Or translate it, I guess?
 
@CodyGray It's not my goal to defend their actions, just to provide a possible/likely explanation (also on why suggesting them to delete their posts instead won't work)
 
7:37 AM
Imagine what it would be like if the UI actually provided useful guidance, and then go update Laurel's feature-request.
@Adriaan It gets weirder. They can register their account, and then they can delete their newly-registered account, which will delete their posts. :-)
 
While this sounds useful I think it's not too high on the list of necessary changes to the UI to improve guidance to users
 
At least we have a list.
 
Much more important are making clearer what SO is (and isn't) and what comments are actually for, to name a few examples
 
@JeanneDark Stack Overflow is "Where Developers Learn, Share, & Build Careers", and comments are for arguing with people. What part is unclear? :-)
 
If I disagree, do I have to comment on one of your answers to express it? ;)
 
7:47 AM
@CodyGray I especially like the sharing part. In particular when people share helpful websites on where to learn PHP in Hyderabad.
 
But do you know where I go to build my career?
 
@CodyGray New Delhi?
 
If you mean your career as a tree cutter, then go to Denver
@Adriaan If you want to trade vegetables, then yes
 
8:24 AM
sheesh, it's not Friday already, is it?
 
@tripleee depends on where in the world you are, innit?
 
you'd have to be really Far East
 
@tripleee this seems to be about running code in CPanel, although it's pretty questionable on the clarity front...
 
8:52 AM
@RyanM yeh, maybe "details or clarity", "debugging detials", and "focus" instead, or as well
 
9:06 AM
 
10:01 AM
 
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10:56 AM
Any specific reason why this post addresses @RyanM? Is there a deleted comment somewhere?
 
@AdrianMole deleted answer
 
@RyanM Yeah - Saw it just after I asked. :)
 
Natty's got me covered though.
waiting for @Natty do you resolved this question?
 
11:14 AM
 
11:38 AM
@tripleee Why does that need to be deleted? There is a comment pointing people to the correct place to ask questions like that.
 
if you really are looking for how to do that in PHP, this is just noise in the search results; the quality of the non-unique content is between bad and atrocious
 
Is this Q a resource request?
@tripleee well said 👍 😁
 
11:54 AM
Morning
@bad_coder could be. It can also be close for lacks focus or needs detail.
 
@bad_coder Its either a off-site resource request or way to broad to be able to answer with all the code for the specified audio and video codecs.
 
12:19 PM
@NathanOliver I don't know any of those tags, maybe a one-liner can solve it. But nothing about the Q looks good except that it's short. LOL
@StephenOstermiller yes, my initial thought went along those lines.
 
1:05 PM
Do anybody make del-pls request to delete this answer?
 
you can make one yourself, just use the standard formatting ... I could do it, but I'm not sure it should be deleted; but if you can explain why, you can post the del-pls too
 
@SunderamDubey I can't find it in this room or the graveyard.
 
jps
1:30 PM
why vote -3 broo, i just need answer
 
I forget, if there is an upvoted comment that has just plain wrong information, can we mod flag to get that removed so the comment stops spreading misinformation?
 
You can certainly try
 
@NathanOliver I flag upvoted comments as NLN all the time
even ones that were never wrong
 
Oh yeah, forgot about that one. I just flagged it as NLN. Now I play the waiting game.
 
Not sure if NLN would work. Either more people flag it and it disappears (somewhat unlikely) or a mod reviews it but the mod might lack the expertise to see it as "wrong". I'd suggest a custom flag.
 
2:24 PM
@VLAZ FWIW, we tend to over-delete comments, as they're ephemeral. I delete like 98% of the ones I see. In this case, the user clearly wanted to debate terminology. Removed some other chatty comments as well
 
Only a deleted comment is a good comment
 
I like deleted comments
 
So much cleaner now :)
 
2:45 PM
@JeanneDark Hmm, bad advice in the only answer there. I posted a competing answer for any future visitors
most likely the new activity will just cause it to be closed as a duplicate
 
3:07 PM
If you don't mind, I will move this conversation out of this room because it is borderline discussing a particular user
 
Interestingly, the editor is also the author of the plagiarized answer
 
3:49 PM
Is posting "... please don't be brainless mod ..." (and naming the moderator) as part of an NAA worthy of a red flag?
 
Honestly I'd be inclined to just flag that as R/A and let the mod delete it if it's NAA
 
It's a follow-up because the mod (JFF) deleted their earlier NAA.
 
in that case definitely R/A
reposting a mod-deleted answer is an abuse of the system
 
Hmm ... here, if you want to flag it.
Drapeau rouge?
I can imagine the response: SO moderators work better without brains. Declined!
 
4:18 PM
 
4:52 PM
@AdrianMole I thought so, at least.
 
@SunderamDubey If you're wondering if a request has already been made, then a good thing to try is to search chat for the post ID. Doing so should, in most cases, show any requests which were made. You'll need to do either multiple searches or not restrict the search to a particular room, as the request may have already been moved out of SOCVR into the SOCVR Graveyard. Searches, of course, won't show a request which was posted, but deleted.
@AdrianMole Yes, it is.
ninja'd, I see
 
Yeah - I was 90% sure but gave it NAA and brought it here.
I like to be 99.5%+ for red flags. :)
 
@AdrianMole If unsure about something like that, a custom flag on the post is a good option, as it allows explanation and makes sure that moderators actually see it, rather than potentially have it deleted by other flags, the user, or review.
 
5:58 PM
Wow, thanks to community members the answer has been deleted :)
 
7:18 PM
@bad_coder what's the typo?
 
@RyanM ok, could be MRE because OP doesn't specify the type that the keys should be. But it's sure to be a dupe of this one. If not it's one of these 307
 
@bad_coder I don't have a dog in this fight, per se, but I do wanna point out that "surely a dupe of one of these n posts" is of course not sufficient for a cv-pls; if a user thinks a question is a duplicate, the onus is on that user to find the best duplicate target to use :-)
just as a general rule. I can't speak to the fitness of a particular Python dupe target
 
@bad_coder The keys seem to be strings in their code sample
 
@TylerH I was rash when following the close reason that was already on the post. But it seemed the comment solved it.
 
the close reason already on the post was "Needs debugging details"
and "comment solved it" is also not a close reason
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null (incorrect close reason)
 
7:32 PM
@RyanM no problem, I'll answer the question and that's it.
 
Sounds good!
 
tries to think of a joke about getting 2 rep from the edit
 
@RyanM the Q lacks the desired result, it's unclear.
 
@bad_coder you're welcome to re-request for that reason; however, "Science, Basic science both of them will be the keys with same value of 23.2." seems fairly clear on the desired result (although you read it differently than I did, so perhaps not)
I'm a little less clear on the input format, but I could hazard a reasonable guess. That said, it's an odd input format. I'm not sure it's particularly widely applicable.
 
@Ethan Hmm. Sorry if I invalidated your suggested rollback. I just went into the revision history and did my own rollback.
 
7:40 PM
@TylerH at the 50CV/day rythm I've been in I recon the quality of some request might not have been perfect lately. But I do recall a couple of regulars (who should know better) that answered 1000+ duplicates, dare I say knowingly. They've farmed that rep just right and swag isn't far away.
 
@AdrianMole doesn't really matter that much. I still need like 100 edits till the next privilege (I get with a user script now anyways and the other I will never) and edits rejected due to conflict of later revisions won't get me banned from suggesting edits
 
I'm not a guy for irony, but... I sometimes think they've gotten into less arguments over that one-liner duplication, than I've gotten over a handful of requests.
@RyanM well "it seems clear" can have the same reply "my seems duplicate" had. Does OP want individual keys? Does OP want them grouped? Should different values be overwritten? Should different values be appended? etc...
 
@bad_coder Given that we don't police user behavior here, that's expected. If someone were questioning someone's contributions here, that would violate the room rules.
 
@RyanM Etiquette is often debated (in whatever form MSO gives it).
 
@bad_coder yeah, as I said, perhaps it's not clear after all. I interpreted as not wanting tuple keys only because tuple keys wouldn't be useful for lookups, but maybe that's not what they're doing.
 
7:46 PM
@RyanM the pythonista intuition didn't fail me. I'm all heart for helping noobs, and I'm personally dissatisfied with not having given that 1 rep more attention (I'm being honest saying this). Perhaps it's time to scale back on CV rythm.
 
Dinner time o/
 
8:09 PM
@bad_coder What do we have for dinner? If it is any good, I'll join.
 
hmm
 
@Dharman I'm fine with it. It's not quite a Customer support question as people other than google can help. It's programming related as well so meh. It is driving a ton of traffic as well, so probably pretty useful.
 
@Dharman I would think not. It is a play store problem. But it depends, obviously: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/258564
 
it's popular therefore it must be useful content worth keeping
 
Popular doesn't mean on topic though
 
8:39 PM
they didn't even ask a question
"What is solution"?
 
@Dharman Borderline? It's a shame that the answers seem to be "click these things to make it go away" rather than addressing how to actually fix whatever issue Google might be complaining about.
 
9:24 PM
@rene simple codfish boiled with cabbage and potatoes, showered with the world's best olive oil.
 
10:40 PM
I've been meaning to have a meta discussion about app-store problems that aren't customer-support-related (that is, questions that do not relate to policy, account state issues that could only be answered by support, payment processing, etc.), but that one seems like it's straddling even that line at least somewhat, in that it's explaining how to answer policy-related questions...
I certainly wouldn't use it as an example, at least.
 

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