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12:05 AM
@SmokeDetector not sure if this is actually an answer even without the profanity
 
user17242583
12:34 AM
Is it normal to choose "close" for most of the items in the Close votes queue? Most of the questions are not that good, but I want to make sure what I'm doing is similar enough to what's generally done.
 
@richardec FWIW, most of the reviews I do in the CV queue get "Close" ... but, that's not the same thing as saying that's always right. Judge each post according to its merits: the correct assessment isn't necessarily the majority view.
... and "Skip" is never wrong, if you're unsure.
 
1:00 AM
@richardec just look at each review as a separate Question. If you would trigger a , just go ahead and vote "close" at the Review. Welcome back, btw ;)
 
 
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2:42 AM
 
3:10 AM
@KenWhite now eligible for del-pls
 
4:08 AM
@EJoshuaS-StandwithUkraine I'd argue the question should've been reopened, considering it was caused by a simple typo, and while other people can run into a similar problem, it's unlikely they'll stumble into this particular question
 
@Cristik Did you mean should not have been reopened?
 
yes, that was what I wanted to say
 
I feel like there's likely to be a dupe for an if followed by an if-else instead of an if-elseif-else
 
I don't know which the original close reason was, though, maybe it was an incorrect one
 
It was closed as "Not suitable for this site"
 
4:14 AM
@HenryEcker if it were a dupe, would the question be a good signpost for it?
 
I don't think that matters wrt closure. If the duplicate answers the question then we would want that question to point to it. If it's a bad signpost that'd be a decision about deleting it later, no?
 
@Cristik three-way split between Needs debugging details, Needs details or clarity, and Not reproducible or was caused by a typo. Which I believe results in the system picking the least useful option of the generic "Not suitable" reason.
 
yeah... that's not a helpful message for the aker
 
It's really not. I wish it wouldn't do that.
 
I've seen more than a few requests just to show the vote split when the question is closed.
 
4:19 AM
It would also be nice if the system understood that "Needs details or clarity" is reaaaaallllyyy similar to "Needs debugging details"
 
@HenryEcker agreed, however that means putting more stuff on an already full plate for curators
the question was a typo one, reopening it to add an answer to have it closed later on by 3 people, and having some other 3 people later on delete it just pills up unnecessary work
 
Sure. My thinking was, however, if it had been closed as a duplicate (if one exists) initially rather than a typo (which I do not think it is) then there would've been no reason to reopen it and no reason to answer (as it already has answers elsewhere) and it would've eventually roomba'd if it wasn't a useful signpost.
 
@RyanM it would be nice if the system would allow users who VTC as unclear to also specify what details they think are missing? Similar as with the custom close reason.
 
@Cristik It does! That's what the commenting feature is for :-)
 
@HenryEcker yeah, that would've been a more productive course of actions, which would've also help the asker
 
4:27 AM
If y'all can find a dupe, we could re-close it.
 
@HenryEcker Agreed. Good find. Closed.
 
I have an itch to add some indentation to the code in that 2012 question, do you guys think it would worth bringing up the question in the feed page just to add some spaces?
 
@Cristik Sure, posts get bumped for far less useful reasons all the time. It's generally only a problem if it's bumping a lot of posts, or bumping one post repeatedly for no good reason.
And SO is super high-traffic so it tends to bump things back off the front page pretty quickly.
 
4:53 AM
 
5:36 AM
 
6:21 AM
I almost started to miss the phone number spam prior to yesterday...
 
@Adriaan Call 555-123 for support about support number spam.
 
6:46 AM
 
@mickmackusa are you out of delete votes?
 
6:58 AM
@SmokeDetector quora spam? Are they that desperate?
 
@Adriaan I assume it's spam for that author, rather than Quora. But in general, any time I accidentally land on Quora, I feel like desperately trying to leave.
 
@Nick No. Do you have something that I should look at?
 
You put in a del-pls (that I replied to) but had not voted to delete it...
 
@Nick ah sorry. Yeah, it was only -2 when I del-pls'ed. Then I went for a jog with my dog.
@Nick what would you close this with? stackoverflow.com/q/35820886/2943403 It is simply asking how to access an object property.
 
7:52 AM
@mickmackusa I've vtc'd with a dupe
 
8:04 AM
getting "offline for maintenance"
 
Seems on-and-off for me; some requests are getting through, others aren't.
Seems back up?
 
8:30 AM
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Q: Burninate [frontend]

LiamI don't really see what role the frontend can possibly bring to a question. Couple of issues I have: It doesn't not describe any particular technology or framework It's completely ambiguous seemingly trying to cover everything from web UI frameworks to command line programs, does beg the questio...

 
8:42 AM
 
In the last almost 13 years, apparently 5k people searched "What is this programming language?" on google...
 
@Cristik When I was a student, I learned both C and assembly. Although, to be fair, I was a student of history, so I guess maybe that doesn't count. :-D
@RyanM Yeah, that... is not surprising, actually. Although the question is clearly off-topic (we don't allow "identify this for me"), it does look like something that could be useful to researchers. I certainly could imagine myself finding something like that helpful if I was presented with unrecognizable code.
 
if you search enough, I'm sure you will find hotel management students who took Forth and health-care professionals who had to learn Prolog ... "computers are the language of the future"
 
8:57 AM
@richardec Yes, sadly, that's quite normal. Note that it's not particularly surprising. Questions don't get randomly placed into the close-vote review queue. The reason they're there is at least one other person thought they should be closed. So, while it's sad in general that there are so many questions on this site in need of closure, the rate of true positives alone shouldn't be reason for shock/concern.
 
@CodyGray think it's worth leaving?
 
@JeanneDark I don't think that answer is implying the question was discussed on Meta. (I normally could confirm, but since 11 years ago would have been before The Great Meta Schism, and I'm not a mod on MSE, neither I nor my userscript can see deleted posts there to confirm.) I think what the answer is referring to is that edit by the OP, which, somehow, never got rolled back in 11 years.
@RyanM Meh. I'd normally say no, because it isn't searchable, but... I think this is where the crystal ball on what is a good signpost fails us.
 
@CodyGray Also possible, the unregistered OP it seems was never active on MSO
@CodyGray 5k views in 13 years is not really good
 
@CodyGray You're more than welcome to undelete it.
I'm not opposed
 
@RyanM That's a big step...
 
9:03 AM
@CodyGray well... history deals with ancient stuff, so C and ASM qualify :)
 
To be clear, it wasn't part of the curriculum.
 
yeah, I got that, just played a little game of words :)
 
@CodyGray I gave it some searchability edits and undeleted.
 
@Cristik I admired it, indeed; although was slightly irritated at the implication that some of my favorite and daily languages might be ancient/obsolete.
 
Opinions on whether it's still terrible welcome.
 
9:06 AM
It's terrible, but might still be useful
 
@RyanM Sorry, this time Cody was not asleep while I posted my request ;)
 
@CodyGray agreed, that neither C nor assembly are old/obsolete. Though to be honest, I like Pascal more than C
 
I never learned Pascal. I thought I might learn Delphi some day, but the motivation to do so has never arisen. These days, I'm probably more likely to learn Pascal, since I can use it for actual retro-programming, which is a hobby that I enjoy, although never have time for.
@JeanneDark What's surprising is that that doesn't have any good answers. I'd have expected a question like that to have answers that contain some good insights, given the age.
 
@CodyGray much like your favorite languages
 
Says the bash expert!
 
9:11 AM
touché
 
@CodyGray that's clearly a Quora kind of question, perhaps the good answers are there?
 
For an expert it may not be so easy to say which features should be removed for newbies and with less than 180 views in almost 12 years, also too few people saw it.
 
It was a SO kind of question in the very early days. We got some interesting insights posted to questions like that, despite most of them being bad. One would have thought the bad ones evaporated many years ago, leaving only the ones that were good in spite of themselves still standing.
Yeah, I guess the "to help newbies" kind of killed that one.
 
No "newbie" is searching for that.
The others would just remove PHP
 
And no expert wants to intentionally cripple a language to make it ideal for newbies.
Good design that accommodates newbies is the "pit of success" model, where it's easy to do the right thing.
That doesn't mean getting rid of all features that are dangerous.
 
9:16 AM
PHP is dangerous
 
What language isn't?
 
Python?
 
Removing mysql_query is the correct answer there.
 
I was involved in a project where one of the architects thought they found the architecture no newbie can get it wrong
they were so wrong....
 
Which you dramatically revealed on "Bring Your Child To Work" day? :-)
 
9:18 AM
Something something only one filament something
 
@Braiam or maybe Swift/Haskell
but we'd just get into pillow fights over programming languages :)
 
I haven't managed to make dangerous assumptions on python, but I haven't used swift or haskell for anything either, so I don't know how much that would be true
 
I am confident that one can write dangerously wrong code in any programming language.
If not, one would also not be able to write useful, correct code.
 
For me, dangerous code is one that appears to do the thing is supposed to, but not in the way that anyone expects it. SQL injections are a good example.
It does what you expect, but also allows other things you do not expect
 
9:22 AM
So, it can be dangerous, useful and "correct"
 
@Dharman Can you please bin this request? Thanks! Cody wants to keep it
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, per request
 
@JeanneDark "wants" is a strong word...
 
@CodyGray Sorry for misrepresenting your views on the subject matter. Feel free to edit the message to better reflect your opinion. :)
 
"Cody made some kind of noise that vaguely resembled an objection, but wasn't really clear."
 
9:38 AM
@CodyGray Close the noise as it lacks clarity.
 
@VLAZ We have it from a reliable source.
 
@CodyGray Have you read the entire Dilbert archive?
 
@RyanM Not the entire archive, no. I did have it open in a tab on my phone for a while, where I started from the beginning and would page through it, reading the cartoons any time I had a few moments to kill. I am not sure exactly where I stopped. I haven't kept up with the more recent ones, for sure. Scott Adams (the author) also turned into a crazy person, so they are likely not as good any more.
Also... in all honesty, I kinda stopped reading it once I started relating to it too well. It turned into not a joke.
 
I generally concur that it has turned into "Scott Adams is smarter than everyone else: the cartoon" as of late
The one's you've linked are funny, though :-)
 
9:54 AM
Yeah, there are definitely quite a few gems. (Perhaps inevitable, considering the volume: every day since, what, 1989?) I have several books of them, too, which I've acquired from various places over the years.
 
10:15 AM
 
jps
 
Other than needing some TLC editing, is a question like this on-topic?
 
@AdrianMole How can someone that only knows how to code c++ and nothing else be able to help?
 
Rumour has it that there are (ex-)members of the Standards Committee here on SO.
 
And yet they don't know c++ :)
 
10:28 AM
@RyanM More than 4, really - all their answers.
 
Wow. I assumed they'd rolled back, but no, they actually re-added gibberish. I guess because they tried to add more code and the system blocked them again. Anyway, the problem solved itself.
 
@AdrianMole Yes, that seems like something that would be on-topic to me, with a significant amount of editing.
 
I did some editing, submitted it for review and voted to reopen, already! :)
... possibly more editing required, though?
 
Yeah, I trimmed out the example entirely, because that's not germane and will lead to people nitpicking over that, which would would make the question less generally useful.
I am a bit surprised it's not a dupe. I haven't finished checking yet.
We have this, but... it kind of sucks. The answer is low-quality, and the question has exactly the same problems I predicted and was trying to avoid by editing the latest one.
 
10:44 AM
Heh - Maybe you should conspire collaborate with Pete Becker and form a canonical Q/A, between you?
 
@CodyGray Which is why we should have neither
 
Because we found a question that sucks?
That's... not a good standard.
 
I think this sort of question is eminently answerable in SO terms. A brief summary of what one should do, before submitting, with some advice/links on how/where to then actually submit.
 
No, the good standard is that you won't find one that doesn't suck
 
Wouldn't those be off topic because they require customer support?
 
10:47 AM
Because to be useful, it has to have discussion, and Q&A is allergic to discussions
 
@StephenOstermiller Customer support?
 
The only useful answer there is "here's the link, have fun".
 
We are all customers of the ISO?
 
And I doubt anyone would want answers like that.
 
Is how do I submit a change to C++ any different than contacting any other company or organization? It isn't something that SO can help with.
 
10:49 AM
Sure it is. There is a standardized process for doing so. It would be a useful, reasonably-scoped Q&A to describe that process.
 
@CodyGray And totally outside of the scope of SO!
 
That's a claim, not an argument.
 
@StephenOstermiller I disagree. Those who have served on Standards Committees could offer very good advice (including examples) of how to go about forming such a request.
 
It has all the same problems that customer support has: it can change for any reason, or no reason.
There's only one authority that can answer them: the organization to which you submit your request.
SO will never be authoritative on those questions
 
And somebody that has worked in amazon customer service can give you guidance about how to word your product return.
 
10:51 AM
@StephenOstermiller And yet can be obsolete the same moment they stopped working there :D
 
If "it can change for any reason, or no reason" was an actual problem, we would be out of business already. All sorts of languages and frameworks can and do change things all the time, obsoleting existing Q&A. Fortunately, we have an "edit" button.
 
@CodyGray You can't edit answers to say something different.
 
@StephenOstermiller Yes, and that would be an on-topic question for a hypothetical "Online Purchasing" Q&A site. Naturally, it would not be on-topic for Stack Overflow, because online shopping is unrelated to programming.
 
And yes, I disagree with that profoundly, but you can't have it both ways.
 
@Braiam Says who?
 
10:52 AM
@CodyGray The last time I was almost suspended for doing exactly that.
If I decided to die on that hill
 
Since C++ adopted the <=> operator, we can have it all three ways. :)
 
@Braiam Not on Stack Overflow. Your only warnings/suspensions related to editing have been about systematic, single-handed burnination of tags.
Maybe there is something I am unaware of that transpired, but we have no rules against making edits that improve posts.
 
@CodyGray You can't read comments, then?
@CodyGray Tell that to meta. And moderators
 
You are attempting to prove to me that editing is somehow verboten by pointing to your own answer, where you recommend editing and no one told you that there's anything wrong with it (in fact, someone also agreed with you that it was fine, in the very first comment)?
 
11:04 AM
@jps Similar to "I asked a doubt". Non-native speakers of English use all kinds of ludicrously incorrect "synonyms" of the word "question".
 
@CodyGray No, I'm pointing out that if it was that accepted, it wouldn't have any counter-argument at all.
Remember, you said "obsoleting existing Q&A", people do not agree (or find controversial) that editing obsolete answers is a solution.
 
jps
@CodyGray I understand that he's not a native speaker, but that added "i am not in doubt" seems to confirm that he really did not ask a serious question.
 
@Braiam I do not understand what you are trying to say.
I certainly do not find it controversial that editing obsolete answers is a solution.
A major feature of this site is that it's collaboratively edited; that's been baked in since day one.
@jps Ah, that's fair. Admittedly, I only read your quoted excerpt.
 
12:03 PM
Morning
 
12:23 PM
@CodyGray And yet, we prefer not doing that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
"We". OK. I assume you've heard or been told something I haven't.
 
That's because you're always only being told that you have a great frame ;)
 
I have, on occasion, had people tell me other things.
 
I'm making so many wrong assumptions about you today
 
I'm complex. Like the square-root of a negative number.
 
1:56 PM
 
:D
 
2:19 PM
@desertnaut which flag should be use for not related to programming?
 
@SecretKeeper Off topic
 
@SecretKeeper not a flag, a custom closing reason, like the one(s) I use myself
 
@desertnaut They don't have enough rep to vote to close
For close voters there are custom close reasons, for flaggers it's a "Blatantly off-topic" flag
 
yes i dont have enought to close it
 
Is this not about programming, or merely lacking a mcve (screenshot of google data). Superuser perhaps?
 
2:21 PM
@JeanneDark oh, I see; can you recall if the custom option is available in this case, too?
 
@desertnaut no, it's not. Just the flag to send it to the queue and there's no option to comment on that.
 
@desertnaut The flag is "Batantly off-topic", they don't make flaggers write custom close reasons as no one would ever see them
 
Moderators could see them.
 
That's why you sometimes see users with less than 3k in here who post requests with the close reason "off-topic" (I always tried to be more specific in such cases)
 
@AdrianMole ah, but they'd have to go to the user's page to get to their flag, rather than letting it be handled by the queue, right?
 
2:23 PM
Yeah. What I should have said is that moderators could see them if they weren't so lazy busy. :-)
 
i guess we should use "in need of moderator invertation" for not relating to programming topics
 
@SecretKeeper no no!
 
@SecretKeeper No, you don't need a moderator
 
@SecretKeeper No, you shouldn't because it doesn't need moderator intervention
 
No. Don't raise a custom mod flag on a question that just needs closing.
 
2:24 PM
Just use "off topic", for non programming
 
@SecretKeeper is there an off-topic option under "needs improvement" -> "community specific reason"?
 
Flag as "needs improvement" => "A community-specific reason" => "Blatantly off-topic"
 
@desertnaut yes i see that
 
@JeanneDark OK, I check in Stats SE (where I am just a low-rep user), and they have an "off-topic" option in addition to the "blatantly off-topic" one; but this seems not to be the case here, right?
 
@JeanneDark ahaa
 
2:26 PM
@desertnaut No, SO doesn't have that extra option. Below "Blatantly off-topic" is the migration one
 
I see
 
"Blatantly off-topic" is what is available when you don't have enough rep for close votes. If you do, you get the custom close reason instead.
 
by the way is there any way to cancel flags?
 
Yes. Go back to the post and click the "flag" button again ... you'll be asked if you want to retract the flag.
 
@SecretKeeper in general, you can always retract them
 
2:33 PM
@SecretKeeper yes, you can retract flags until they have been handled
 
@SecretKeeper Yes, you get the option to retract a flag by clicking on the "Flag" button. Or the flag-like button for a comment.
 
yes i found it thank you
 
@desertnaut "Yet"
 
user17242583
2:50 PM
Why are review suspensions applied for the all the queues rather than in the queue you failed in?
 
user17242583
I made a (admittedly foolish) decision that got me suspended for 2 days, but it was in the suggested edits queue. Now I can't review other queues where I was doing alright...
 
Because you are clearly an all-around bad reviewer and horrible person. :(
 
@richardec That seems manual
 
user17242583
(This was the one; I absurdly approved it because of distraction at home)
 
user17242583
@Braiam how do mods find all those reviews then? Do they just go through the queue manually? or does someone flag the post/review? or is there automation that alerts the mods when a likely mis-review was made?
 
2:54 PM
Pretty much everybody who spends time in the queues gets suspended occasionally. Its annoying, but consider it vacation.
 
user17242583
(Note that I'm not complaining as it's only for two days, but I don't really understand all the logics behind it and I'm curious about them :)
 
@StephenOstermiller almost everybody, indeed
 
@Braiam Yeah. No way that was an audit. Audits in the Suggested glamrockers alive Edits queue are far more z-plungers obvious than grooming eaks that.
5
 
user17242583
@StephenOstermiller that's actually nice, because the queues can get tiring :)
 
i've never been review suspended
 
2:56 PM
@richardec /users/current/activity?=reviews or something like that?
 
@KevinB well you don't do reviews unless some jerk tricks you
 
@richardec the functionality does not exist in the system, mostly, but also the point is that you are reviewing without paying too much attention. Not reviewing close votes without paying too much attention (for example).
If your reviewing behavior is being affected by something, chances are it will affect your behavior regardless of the queue you are in
 
Is there an "I'm cleaning my bedroom" review queue?
 
sorry, i failed that audit because i was in the middle of a vault
 
hehe - ultimate punishment.
 
@tripleee Any link to a zip file is likely trying to distribute malware. Looks like spam to me.
 
user17242583
@tripleee that's definitely spam.

>These units I made by searching the web and use on my system. In the link below you can download the .zip that contains these files that you will need.
>
>https://www.setes.com.br/material/Framework.zip
>
>Needing help with this material +55 (41) 9-9911-2072 - Valdo

The question is about RTTI in Delphi.
 
Google translate looks more like the guy is trying to sell something
 
user17242583
I like when questions like this get an answer-trimming.
 
@richardec Some users flag poor reviews when they come across them. So it doesn't necessarily have to have been a mod monitoring the reviews as they happen but rather community notifying of a specific case.
That said both the Controversial suggested edits tab and the complete history (I don't know if people who are suspended from reviewing can access the review history or not) are available for 10k+ users which can also help in finding potential issues.
 
user17242583
@HenryEcker interesting. So maybe some user flagged that review.
 
user17242583
Btw, yes, I can visit that history page.
 
Hehe TIL: The "National Animal" for Scotland is ... the Unicorn.
 
3:45 PM
@HenryEcker ...how did I just now discover that first thing existed?!
 
@RyanM globally poor UI design on the 10k tools?
 
Checks out.
 
There's also this gem of a page that no one seems to remember (myself included) stackoverflow.com/tools/question-close-stats
historical close vote reasons
 
@AdrianMole Neat. I always though it had to be a real animal.
 
What? Unicorns are real.
 
3:52 PM
@RyanM Click everything on the tools tab
 
... but I would have thought that the Haggis would be a better choice.
 
@richardec We have a number of techniques. Some of us do reviews in the queue and then check if anyone disagreed. Sometimes people flag stuff or post in chats based on doing that, or if they see problematic content that was not caught properly in review. Sometimes we check how reviewers handled content flagged as NAA/VLQ. There are also ways to find potentially bad reviewers based on stats or audit failures.
 
@TylerH scrolling down, I see someone seems to have a template which says "DL theory" instead of "ML theory"
oh wait, it's for as opposed to
 
> I’m voting to close this question because Stack Overflow is not ghost busters.
3
there's always some interesting stuff there, but wat...
 
user17242583
Sorry for just posting it here, but I don't have smokey access and I'm not seeing links to it elsewhere...
 
4:03 PM
You can use [tag:spam] on such posts, so that the room's clean-up script understands them.
 
@richardec Appreciated. You can, in the future, use [tag:flag-pls]
@AdrianMole it's actually the flag-pls that the script cares about
 
Cool.
 
(I think...I know that's sufficient, at least)
 
@richardec for the record, you are welcome to bring it up in Smokey's home room chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/11540/charcoal-hq
at your rep level, I don't believe we would find any problem with giving you !!/report access there if you're interested
 
@RyanM Depends. Are we talking the real Ghostbusters or some other show?
 
4:09 PM
dangit I'm trying to delete spammy things, this is not the time for 500 errors...
@Machavity well, it's lowercase, so I assume these are generic store-brand poltergeist-removal technicians.
 
@TylerH Eh? I recently linked that on a comment
Since it was relevant.
 
user17242583
@tripleee ok, thank you! I'll try. I've asked before and been tool to wait, but it was a while ago.
 
user17242583
@RyanM ah yes, I forgot about that! I'll make sure to do that next time.
 
4:55 PM
Who's in charge of the server running Natty's Sentinel? I was wondering if by any chance I could get the database of (all time) reports to work on a NLP classifier for NAAs.
@TylerH oh wow that's a pretty cool page, didn't know about it
 
@MarcoBonelli Natty is maintained by Bhargav Rao. He's normally very helpful with requests such as yours.
... You can try a ping in SOBotics.
... other regulars there may also be able to help.
 
Makes sense, I wasn't sure since on github I see Undo and ArtOfCode as main authors, I will ping there
 
@MarcoBonelli It's on erwaysoftware.com, so that'd likely be Thomas Ward, who you can find around in Charcoal HQ.
 
oh ok, I'll ask there then
 
5:23 PM
can someone give me an example of a tag that shouldn't be the ONLY tag on the question?
 
Something like ?
 
yes
thanks, any more
 
jps
 
Probably not just
 
haven't seen performance on its own yet
 
5:29 PM
What are you specifically looking for? There area a lot of tags that shouldn't be the only tag, primarily because they would not attract any attention e.g. alone is sometimes done and is entirely missed because of that
 
@Dharman many come to mind: hyperlink, optimization, query-optimization, database, url, ...
 
I am looking for tags that get commonly used as an only tag but shouldn't
licensing is a good example, because I have seen many and they are definitely all off-topic
 
is another candidate
 
ok, that's 50 tags already
 
also
 
5:38 PM
already got that one
 
@Dharman
 
:)
 
jps
most operating system tags such as , , because in cases when they come alone, the question is most likely off-topic. Same for
 
questions seem to be off topic frequently, no matter how many other tags are used...
 
user17242583
> Java Program Confusion

That's very similar to a example bad title in [the Help Center](https://stackoverflow.com/help/how-to-ask)! ("C# Math Confusion")
 
5:50 PM
@Dharman How about and its cousins? The top page for that has one Q with only that tag, but there should always be a language tag, I think.
... but probably not in the "commonly" category. I can edit that Q...
 
I don't care much for function names. There's too many.
I am building a watchlist of troublesome tags, but functions aren't that IMHO
 
Troublesome tags, eh? Maybe write a to help you along. xD
 
@Dharman "Troublesome," but not necessarily "bad?"
 
correct
 
I know some people that could be on that list.
 
5:54 PM
Maybe there's already a mod-only ?
 
is this on topic? does adding tags involve programming stuff? or can it be closed as general / networking?
 
@AdrianMole We have a list of most-flagged users. I don't think anyone will ever catch #1 either
 
[networking] is good too
 
How about , , or similar complexity-class questions that aren't really software-specific?
 
they could be on-topic and I am not willing to be called on meta for closing them
 
5:57 PM
Big-O would probably be ok if it also had [language-agnostic]. But is it OK to imply that?
 
6:11 PM
@Dharman
 
@Machavity There is a user who is rapidly moving up the ranks due to flagging their own posts, though...
(lest anyone is concerned about drawing mod ire by flagging their own posts: I don't think anyone actually uses that list, it's mostly just on the same page as some other useful lists...and if we did, we'd still look at what the flags are before doing anything)
 
Flag for what? Site Migration?
 
i know i've been flagged a number of times, but i can't think of anyone in particular that i'd expect to see high on such a list
oh, wait
i know 1
2
3?
 
@GeneralGrievance It's a long story...basically, there was a bunch of undisclosed affiliation, mods deleted everything, they've been fixing stuff and we've been putting it back as they do.
@KevinB Your posts have been helpfully flagged a miniscule 11 times, very few of which had anything to do with anything you did wrong.
 
hmm... i was thinking more along the lines of mso and so combined, and including comment flags,
but if it's just SO posts, yea
but that also cuts my list back to 1
 
6:27 PM
@RyanM Ah, that user. Yeah... that's a mess
 
@KevinB Comment flags are handled by a system that flags your posts under certain conditions. Those were in fact the few helpful flags that had anything to do with you.
We can also view them separately, but the comment flagging system in general leaves something to be desired...in particular, we can only handle every flag on a comment at once, so we're often forced to choose between declining a valid flag and marking an invalid flag helpful.
Generally, when I see a particularly problematic comment, I'll check to see if the user has said anything else problematic recently.
 
Hmm... I'm debating the necessity of this JS. Any thoughts on it?
 
6:44 PM
it's irrelevant
 
There is a fine line between JS and BS.
2
 
the answer doesn't deal with user user entered content
(the answer is probably also irrelevant, for a similar reason)
 
user17242583
That seems like a comment to me. Is it even improving the answer at all?
 
@Machavity If you edit-ban that "anonymous user", does that mean no "anonymous user" can make suggested edits? xD
 
@AdrianMole I wish it were that simple
 
What is the most downvoted meta post of all time?
 
It's one from Shog9 ... searching ...
 
@MFerguson If you mean by total score, on MSO it's Sunsetting Jobs & Developer Story
Though honestly I'd be shocked if that weren't also the most downvoted...the next most negative post is a third the score.
 
Although I searched only questions, as (probably) did Ryan.
 
Nope, I searched everything. Including deleted posts.
 
6:57 PM
Ooh. Even deleted posts can't match that one.
 
Which I did using moderator abilities, because I'm lazy, but you could also do that via SEDE.
 
Cody still holds 4th place, with Shog9 just a tad better, in 5th.
Of course, I'd forgotten about the Thanks™ announcement.
 

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