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12:02 AM
Kill off abandoned cross-posted question? stackoverflow.com/q/70812839/2943403 (It is marked as resolved on JSE) Do I just custom-flag it? Custom-close it?
 
@mickmackusa I don't think we should be discussing users in here. In general, posting from multiple accounts is permitted, so long as there's no interaction between them, and it's not being done to circumvent a question ban. Of course, if the questions are the same, one can be closed as a duplicate of the other.
 
hmm... after re-reading, perhaps they are not duplicates. It looks like the first question got an answer then had a subsequent question about arrow functionality. I feel these are not duplicates.
 
12:22 AM
 
Is this too broad? stackoverflow.com/q/70539742/2943403 Asking if [list of CMSs] can do something?
 
 
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7:10 AM
Many years ago (evidently), I found this question that wasn't a question. It was a tutorial dump as a question, but there is nothing to answer. It was never closed, despite my vote and comment explaining the occurrence. Now it is protected. Should it be unprotected and closed? It does not fit the required Stack Exchange Q&A format. stackoverflow.com/q/12994282/2943403
 
it can be closed regardless, can't it?
not as such eligible for a cv-pls but I have voted
 
@tripleee I wasn't exactly decided on the best way to close it. I didn't know if a protected question could be closed (never tried before). Technically speaking it is okay to share a coding technique as a comprehensive tutorial, but not as a posted question. IMO, it would have been completely legitimate to craft a "bump-set" question for a "spike" answer. Unfortunately, I don't think there is any way to remedy the maligned page now.
 
 
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9:44 AM
@tripleee I don't get the thought process when people post "questions" like that...
 
@user692942 Simple - SO is where you post code and somebody fixes it for you. Or even write your requirement and somebody writes the code for them. It's a help desk, you see. That's the thought process.
 
@user692942 exactly as @VLAZ says; see another recent example: stackoverflow.com/questions/70923455/…
at least they thankus in advance...!
 
@VLAZ in addition: ... without any paychecks.
 
@MartinBackasch Pfft, why would you pay the text box where you dump your requirements and it spits out a result? Do you also pay Google when you search? :P
 
10:08 AM
@VLAZ: My personal data counts as payment, doesn't it? ;)
 
@VLAZ it's depressing, not sure why I'm surprised at all mind you.
 
10:36 AM
Any gurus around who can find a canonical dupe for this. I know of one or two in Java or Python ...
 
@LucaKiebel sorry, but it is not obvious to me (not an SME) how this is a typo; maybe leave a comment in the thread explaining?
 
@desertnaut hm, seems like I clicked on the wrong button, I wanted to close this as "no MCVE"
 
@LucaKiebel ok
@Adriaan doesn't look like
 
But it's an attempted joke answer, closing the program rather than opening the command line
 
10:52 AM
@Adriaan hmm... if so, I didn't get it - probably I lack the necessary context knowledge
 
Neither am I an SME here, but all other answers use some keyboard combination to open a terminal, whereas ctrl-esc clearly does not. It's like the old days where people in RuneScape would run around yelling "Press Alt-F4 for free cash!"
 
11:22 AM
@desertnaut you missed the link
 
11:47 AM
 
12:40 PM
also possibly R/A / trolling
 
1:03 PM
Morning
 
1:23 PM
How many downvotes should an answer accumulate before we put it out of its misery? stackoverflow.com/a/14393233/2943403
 
@mickmackusa theoretically unlimited, sadly.
 
@mickmackusa There's nothing wrong with "wrong" answers, this one does seem to attempt a solution to the problem
 
but if it doesn't answer the question or offer any other insights it's just noise which doesn't make sense to keep around
 
Mick hate noise. Make page bad.
 
@mickmackusa The answer (as ever) is 42. :-)
 
1:33 PM
@LucaKiebel But it provides value?
 
also some foul language but perhaps not worth editing
 
Leave the foul language, for now, as it will probably help garner downvotes. ;(
Should we now delete-vote it? Or just leave it to the Roomba?
 
3:07 PM
What is this person the spam alludes to, and why would anyone want to speak to one?
 
@Adriaan What is this "talking" you speak of? Are not all interactions between people UTF-8?
 
@Machavity quite welcoming you are, allowing non-ASCII
 
@AdrianMole It's this one. I know it's not tagged C, but that's the correct target.
 
3:29 PM
:-D
 
@Machavity at least you didn't go as campy as the Big Bang Theory where the joke is that nerds talk to each other in binary and klingon, exclusively
 
3:48 PM
 
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4:28 PM
I don't get those emojis... Does this stand out more in google searches?
 
For the people that spam is directed to, yes
 
More of an eye-catch when user is browsing too, I guess?
 
regardless of how stupid, anything that draws attention nets greater visibility/clicks
 
"'HelP''micRosoFt.coM" guess those people who search for MS support really like mocking spongebob case :-D
 
Research by MS about the why microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/…
 
4:33 PM
At least we don't have it as bad as Vimeo. The sheer amount of support number spam videos on there is staggering.
 
@Braiam wow that's cool. Never thought of it that way
 
@VLAZ Ah, she cross-posted
 
> if our change doesn't negatively impact the number of answers posted we'll push it forward
 
It's different content. Weirdly. I wanted to post a request for Newest sorting on MSO but jumped here to check if somebody reported the announcement. Found yours...which talked about a Newest sorting.
 
@KevinB How should it?
 
how should.. what
 
5:06 PM
On the upside, at least they are renaming the Votes sorting to Score. Maybe some day they'll also update the post information, too.
 
How should any change impact the number of answers posted
 
My issue iwth that statement is effectively, causing the page to be an H1 taller obviously isn't going to impact answering, neither will tripling it, that's not... a useful metric to base a UX change on
 
@KevinB Also, I don't think less answers are a bad thing.
 
@KevinB I'm still looking for that quote
 
But I also recognise I'm not SE.
 
5:12 PM
> We are moving it so that it appears underneath that header. We will run an experiment on Stack Overflow to make sure that moving the menu doesn't negatively impact the number of clicks on the sort menu or the number of answers created. Assuming no negative impacts, we will change the placement of the sort networkwide.
there's the full quote
I dont think this change in particular is a problem at all, it's just the way this kind of... "data" is often used to justify things in a vacuum
also...
the fact that the survey isn't actually representative of the userbase... due to the buckets...
 
@KevinB I voted for a Newest sorting and it's being added. I feel represented. Ergo, I'm a bucket.
 
I don't like the active change
 
@KevinB Ohh, the sort menu... yeah, I rarely click it unless I'm looking for something specifically.
 
but because we're gonna base our decisions on 1000 randomly chosen users, there's no point in providing feedback
 
Personally, I was satisfied with the answer order when they unpinned the accepted answer
 
6:15 PM
Looks like the CV Dialog has been broke, the userscript no longer works
 
@user692942 Do you have an example? What does "no longer works" mean?
 
@Makyen sorry the cv generator is not coming up in the close dialog assuming some styling has changed and knocked it out
I'm running Unclosed Request Review Script 2.1.0
 
@user692942 So far, it works for me (i.e. the checkboxes are showing in the CV dialog). Is the button available for you in the post-menu? Have you tried re-installing the userscript? What version of the Request Generator (GitHub) (install) are you using?
The Unclosed Request Review Script is only in chat. It affects what's displayed in the chat room, transcripts, searches, etc.
 
@Makyen pasted the wrong one, sorry yeah it's 2.0.0 of the Request Generator
I'll try re-installing it if it's working for others. Was working a few hours ago which seemed strange.
It's back now. Thanks @Makyen
 
6:32 PM
@user692942 np. There's some weird thing going on that randomly results in the script no longer working. Re-installing seems to fix the issue. There have been multiple cases, but nothing reproducible. There was a bug in Tampermonkey which resulted in all scripts no longer working on pages where an affected script was loaded, but that was fixed about a year ago. It's possible there are further similar issues.
 
@Machavity Alignment change seems like a pointless part of that change
 
6:52 PM
^ Too broad/opinion based when translated
 
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter That's the wrong link. It's from your previous request.
 
7:15 PM
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter I don't see any request for libraries or anything like that. Are you sure you selected the right reason?
 
7:25 PM
@DontKnowMuchButGettingBetter I moved that request to null because the link was invalid. Feel free to post it again with the correct link.
 
 
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8:33 PM
 
9:13 PM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica It's not a hill I'll die on, but isn't hacking/cracking etc specifically permitted?
 
yup
 
Does anyone else here who uses Firefox have the issue where you can't click "Close" on expanded Stack Snippets, or is it just me
I tested with all add-ons disabled just to be sure, but it's happened before where there was some other, "specific-to-me" issue going on...
 
the return to post button?
 
fp feedback on autoflagged post: React native - subscribe with a promo-code (IOS) [MS]
Autoflagged FP: flagged by @SmokeDetector, @Rob
 
@KevinB The "close" link at the top-right of the screen when you make a snippet full screen
When you click "run snippet" there's an option that appears to the right of those buttons that says " Full screen". Click that, and you should see the "close" option at the top-right of your browser viewport
 
9:24 PM
Ah, when you click full page after running
not when you click expand before running..
why does that give two different pages
 
oh wtf I have never seen this 'expand' view before
 
fwiw i use chrome, so, not really helpful i guess?
works for me
 
Yeah, it works fine in Chrome
 
took forever to find one to test on
 
It is probably a bug in how Firefox handles multiple positioned elements
 
9:27 PM
 
would be funny if sticky header was interfereing
 
@KevinB Well it's involved, as it happens
@HenryEcker Yep, thanks. Couldn't find that from my search.
I'm on 96.0.3 so it won't be long until I hit 97 and can see if it is fixed again
oh poo, justlooked at the bugzilla entry; they have it on track for FF 98 instead
 
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@TylerH np. I also couldn't find it via search, but I just happened to remembered a recent(ish) post so I just searched newest and scrolled back...
 
Odd that it took so long, I have just been dealing silently with the issue for like 4 months
 
9:32 PM
How often do you expand code snippets? I don't know that it's something that comes up often for me.
 
never
i hardly even run them
 
@TylerH Not just you. There's an MSO or MSE post about it with some workarounds.
@Makyen Note to self: read the rest of the transcript prior to replying. :;
 
classic :-P
@HenryEcker usually always
most people who post HTML/CSS questions with snippets have layouts that are wider than the massive joke of a width that Stack Overflow relegates site content to
800px or whatever
 
Ah that makes sense. Generally I only deal with snippets in a JS context where the unexpanded console size is typically more than large enough.
 
10:21 PM
 
Heh - I really love it when I get a "+1" green bubble.
 
Heh. That's about what I would see if I got an upvote today
I'm at -9 for the day thanks to happening upon an old html5 input question. Ahhh, the sweet sounds of bad content
 
@TylerH You obviously need to answer more dupes. ;-P
 
 
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11:29 PM
@TylerH been there. Old PHP pages are perfect for that sort of thing.
 

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