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3:35 AM
Is it corrrect to copy steps from a service docs without attribution to the docs?
 
 
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@Shree Yes, because he is asking that the solution does not work for him. Side note the code he is using is for python2 but it is not compatible with python 3 (the print function).
 
@eyllanesc thanks. Hesitate to flag as NAA :)
 
@Shree In those cases, when you have one, I ask myself: Did the user try to provide an answer or point out that the code doesn't work? If it is the first then it is an answer (at least an attempt) but if it is the second it is not, and in general it is advisable to point out that it is better to publish a new post with more information, but in this case it is caused by a typo by the simplest thing is to point out how to correct it.
 
6:13 AM
@KevinM.Mansour I don't think I would regard that as a flaggable offense if it's not just a blatant copy/paste without any attribution or explanation (in which case maybe flag as plagiarized)
 
@tripleee Which comment you are taling about? Sorry, but I am lost.
 
the reply is threaded, click the faint upward arrow to jump to the message it's a reply to
 
@tripleee Thank you. :)
@tripleee Fom my point of view, it is copied/pasted from docs without even linking for the docs. even the answer have same images that are in the docs, For that I am sure it is copied.
It is deleted now.
Thank you for your response. :)
 
sure c-:
 
6:42 AM
@tripleee You fliped the smile face from :) into (:
 
 
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8:00 AM
@mck not sure that a question on how to install Pyspark falls under General Computing; this is a programming tool
 
8:13 AM
@RyanM quick question, the other day I installed a program that complained about not having JRE_HOME in the enviorment variables. I thought:"I'll just set it to the JDK", but the program complained again that JRE wasn't at the specified path. My solution (to not loose any more time) was to download JRE and set it, but isn't JDK enough? Could I have set JRE_HOME to something inside JDK?
Asking because I was under the impression that setting JDK_HOME should in principle take care of all your needs.
 
mck
@desertnaut you may be right. Anyway, it's a low quality question, so low that I can't find a duplicate.
 
8:29 AM
@bad_coder Oracle claims that the JDK includes the JRE, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's not the root folder of the JDK but either a subfolder or somewhere else
On my Windows system, it looks like I've got jdk-10.x.x.x and jre-10.x.x.x folders side-by-side. Of course, I don't remember exactly what I installed, but my guess would be just a JDK installer.
Note that someone on Stack Overflow claims there's no JRE folder anymore since Java 10, but...I don't think that's right.
 
9:27 AM
Is this question salvageable? What is left if you edit out the last paragraph with the additional, off-topic questions.
 
@JeanneDark doesn't look to be about programming at all. Voted to migrate
 
Thanks
 
 
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@Tomerikoo It's exactly the same solution. Can you explain?
 
@Dharman Well, the upvoted answer on the dupe uses a different library which no one suggested in the target. Not the biggest loss for humanity, just thought there is no harm in keeping it...
 
Is that really an answer?
 
@Tomerikoo Can you not add it as an answer yourself?
 
@KevinM.Mansour The whole exchange works better as a comment chain
 
11:11 AM
I don't see a reason to undelete a duplicate just to preserve the answer. The same answer can be reposted on the target too
 
@tacoshy "Missing research effort" is not a reason to close a question, to down-vote it, yes, but not to close it, but this site is not about down-voting, only close-voting, so "duplicate" is all you need to mention.
 
@Dharman Yeah I was thinking about that too, I guess I could make it a CW
 
it still is a duplicate
 
@Machavity I am really amazed when I saw this. :)
 
@tacoshy: and that is all you need to show to request a cv-please
 
11:13 AM
@Tomerikoo @Machavity Please bin this. I will post the answer as a CW
 
@tacoshy If you want to use webfonts tag try [tag:your tag name]e.g [tag:web-fonts]. :)
 
yeah my mistake sorry. Still trying to get used to chat fomatting. How do you link with a name instead of posting the link itself?
 
@Machavity But it looks like it was the resolving answer: _ After switching back to my original theme, i am getting this option perefectly._
 
@tacoshy [name](link) e.g [SO](https://stackoverflow.com/)
 
@tacoshy: [HTML Email can't load custom fonts from the web](https://stackoverflow.com/questions/67935715/html-email-cant-load-custom-fonts-from-the-web) gives you HTML Email can't load custom fonts from the web
 
11:16 AM
@tacoshy There is no need for "sorry". Everyone is learning. :)
 
tyvm
 
@Vega I tend to throw it into the realm of "Please reboot" or "Please uninstall and reinstall". Can it solve the problem? Maybe. But the voting indicates it's not a useful answer either
 
mck
what close reason to choose for this type of question? The OP is trying to add a list to an integer and failed. stackoverflow.com/questions/67935511/…
 
@mck Needs Details or Clarity in my opinion. he didn't add what he have tried to solve the problem.
How can I use Stack Exchange CV Request Generator userscript? Is there a Keyboard Shortcut?
I have found it. :)
Is that a programming question?
 
11:52 AM
seems vaguely development-related, but not familiar with the territory
 
Is this answer (that was upvoted, btw.) just NAA or R/A?
 
@JeanneDark To what question? "Did this help you?"
 
^ probably from SD, recent deleted answer
 
@Braiam I don't understand your question
 
@JeanneDark You are asking if that's an answer, I'm asking you to what question.
 
11:55 AM
@Braiam That's not what I'm asking
 
@JeanneDark A NAA is an answer?
 
Morning
@JeanneDark NAA. I threw a delete vote at it.
 
@NathanOliver Thanks!
 
Next time @Jeanne just flag it, the objective is getting it deleted. Both work towards that goal ;)
 
(same spammer as above, it seems)
 
12:09 PM
Dutch spam - where's that fuzzy flower?
 
guys what is rollback in stackoverflow? i want earn that badge
 
@SecretKeeper Don't rollback just to earn a badge. Badges are meant to show how active you are on Stack Overflow.
 
12:35 PM
Note that you can rollback one of your own posts even if you have < 2k reputation. IIRC, doing that also earns you the badge.
... but take note of what Dharman just said!
 
i dont even know what is rollback, is that deleting or deactivating account? just tell me whats that
 
Just read the linked question/answer
 
@SecretKeeper The word "rollback" means to go back to a previous state. google.com/…
 
yes right but you can mean it here in different ways
i asked a stupid question 3 years ago and im ashamed of it lmao
and i can not delete it
to be honest that makes me sad
 
we all make mistakes. I understand that our past mistakes can hunt us and it's not easy to shed this burden, but the best way I find to cope with this is to try seek redemption by contributing in meaningful ways. Help other people and that should help you forget about your past mistakes
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12:44 PM
You can't because someone put work into composing an (upvoted) answer to it. Also looks like you just received a pity upvote and its score is now +1.
 
by the way how can i talk with a support/stuff
@Dharman agreed
 
@JeanneDark yeah ofc
 
FWIW, If you really don't want the question, you can use a mod flag, or the contact us, to ask for the question to be disassociated from your account. The Q&A will still be there, but your account will be removed from it.
 
@NathanOliver oh thats really cool for me
 
1:01 PM
sorry i am new here , why ppl sharing their review here
 
@SecretKeeper there is a room description in the upper right corner, read that
 
That's the purpose of this room. We monitor closing activities and help to speed some review tasks. You can read more here socvr.org
 
can i also join socvr?
 
@SecretKeeper You're in it right now.
 
1:11 PM
@SecretKeeper Anyone can hang out here, though we do generally ask that users have experience and certain site privileges before they participate.
Start with the SOCVR Tour page
 
We don't have actual 'members' of SOCVR - but there is a group of hardy regulars.
 
@AdrianMole Some are blurry, too
 
what privileges needed for it ? im just 1k , i guess i have not all of them isnt it?
 
@JeanneDark And some have blue names and/or italicized names.
@SecretKeeper You have more rep. than @Jeanne
 
@SecretKeeper You can make recommendation for CVs, but the idea here is to trade votes. That having been said, we've had many useful regulars below 3k
 
1:14 PM
... and some have blue italicized names. ;-)
 
@AdrianMole way to call her out, eh...
 
@TylerH ... but no less 'hardy' for all that! :)
 
People that can suggest improvements or be consulted about their knowledge on certain topics, can participate at any reputation level.
 
1:47 PM
@NathanOliver If I flagged my own question and it became unliked to my account, so the reputation points that I earned/losed from my question will be retrieved or not?
 
@KevinM.Mansour You'll lose reputation gained and recover reputation lost from a disassociated post.
 
@JeanneDark Thank you. :)
 
2:06 PM
^ maybe even [del-pls] (but I am not sure hence no formal request) because it is an N-th dupe of the canonical about XOR object types with a great answer from a long-standing contributor to TypeScript
 
@KevinM.Mansour Fun fact: sometimes we find old plagiarism that has gotten highly upvoted and we'll get it disassociated first
 
@Machavity Why you get it disassociated first?
 
@KevinM.Mansour Removes the undeserved rep
 
@Machavity I understood now. :)
 
@Machavity Doesn't deletion do the same?
 
2:18 PM
@Tomerikoo sort of, and only sometimes
 
@Tomerikoo Rep earned more than 60 days ago doesn't get lost due to deletion. I actually thought the same would apply for disassociation, but apparently not.
 
Disassociation causes a recalculation to occur; it's as if the user never asked the question in the first place, in terms of rep, badge progress, or question status on the system
 
@Tomerikoo If it has been visible for at least 60 days with score >= 3 the author keeps the rep.
 
@Tomerikoo Only on low rep posts. Deleting a +1 or +2 post will revert the rep
 
@TylerH Not all badges get recalculated
 
2:20 PM
Deletion will refund rep except in the 60 day/ >=3 score case (as cigien and Jeanne just mentioned), but will also count toward the user's record in the case of a question ban. Not necessarily an issue, but if OP has few questions of low score
@Dharman I should have clarified, progress toward unearned badges. Earned badges are never refunded
 
What about tag badges?
 
They're not really badges, or at least they're a different, special kind of badge
 
Thanks all for the info, didn't know that...
 
@Vega This really feels like an on-topic batch file programming question. See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/305964/…
 
@PaulRoub I hesitated on this one, should have asked first. Founding the cross-site duplicate on Super User convinced me to post
 
2:56 PM
@Vega I think it matters that it's the answer that is the same there, not the question...
If the same answer can be given to different questions on different sites, that's not a problem. It's only a problem if someone asks the same question on different sites
 
@RiggsFolly That question should be closed because it's too broad, and possibly unclear. There's no mention of homework anywhere, and lack of an attempt is not a reason to close a question.
 
@TylerH Remove my cv-pls, please
 
@Vega → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
@Makyen Thank you!
 
np
 
3:18 PM
@cigien If that does not SCREAM Homework to you then I dont know what would :)
 
...
that it's homework or not isn't a problem
there is no "this is homework" close reason for a reason
 
@KevinB Cannot fond one for "Too Braod" any more either
 
not focused covers the same ground too broad was meant for
 
This one is off-topic, right?
 
@RiggsFolly IMO, that was a homework problem assigned to the OP, I agree. However, I take a literal view of that, because unfortunately there is still wording in the help-center that makes an exception for "No effort" as a close reason for homework questions. In this particular case, it's relatively clear that it's homework, but I've seen quite a few examples of closures that are very borderline, hence my objection to that being used as a close reason.
 
3:26 PM
Ok, didnt want to start a war
 
I'm not trying to have a war, or even a fight. I apologize if my tone came across as too aggressive, that was not my intention. I'm just explaining my rationale for my previous comment.
 
3:45 PM
@Vega In my opinion, it is better to be asked Ask Ubuntu. I think it will be on-topic there.
@ChristopherMoore Is translating someone post into English is incorrect?
 
@KevinM.Mansour thank you
 
4:04 PM
@KevinM.Mansour Yes, it's not correct. See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/297673/…
 
@ChristopherMoore I thought it is fine. Thank you. :)
 
4:31 PM
Is that a good question?
 
Possibly needs debugging details
 
In my opinion. It needs code for both Huawei Ads and Huawei IAP or even What is the error that he get when he download app. I am sure their is error, so I am just confused for that I asked. Thank you. :)
If anyone has different point of view, that would be nice because this question is just confusing so far.
 
5:06 PM
@Vega It's not a programming question, so yes.
 
 
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6:21 PM
A little light entertainment! old.reddit.com/r/MurderedByWords/comments/ne6t0h/… :=) (Language probably NSFW)
 
6:34 PM
@halfer Man, people on reddit are dumb
 
Yeah, found someone saying that the same user keep closing a question as dupe of the NPE question and that the question was reopened several time, luckily someone already responded that that's impossible
 
it is possible though to attempt to close over and over
 
@TylerH Reddit holds Twitter's beer
 
@Machavity Reddit and Twitter are the only two things that make me consider that real-life verification for creating an account for anything on the internet might be a good idea
 
6:51 PM
@TylerH I prefer reaching xkcd 810 singularity
 
that's a good pipe dream too
 
@TylerH Depends, FB requires real-life verification if you create a celebrity account.
 
@bad_coder I mean, yeah it is useful for some stuff already
I'd like the US govt to be much more aggressive at taking down botnets, etc. and robocall number spoofing.
Sorry, legitimate business that mask all outgoing calls behind one number, spammers ruined it for everyone; it should be illegal now. Or at least only allowed to licensed companies, abuse punishable by jail time
 
@TylerH rationale I heard is investigators leave the botnets to operate trying to find out who's behind them.
 
@bad_coder Meh, if they aren't going to send a spy into the territory to steal/uncover that info, then just shut them down
 
6:55 PM
@TylerH hum, if they arrested the dealer on the street corner they wouldn't catch the narco-sub 3 years down the line.
 
The difference is botnets are nuisance, not a life threatening thing, for the most part, so there's no dire need to catch the guys and lock them up, just stop them from doing it.
 
mention this one because there were a couple of record breaking cases recently, one in costums and another one with a real submarine.
 
And there's an argument for if they arrested all the dealers on the street corner then there wouldn't be a narco sub because there wouldn't be distribution points for that sub to distribute to
 
@TylerH AFAIK, the telecoms and previous admin FCC were dragging their feet on the issue
Remember, a bigger stick isn't useful if you can't find who to hit with it.
 
just swing it indiscriminately
 
6:58 PM
@TylerH If there's money to be had, there will be always people willing to do the job
 
@Braiam telecoms (and the previous admin's FCC, by extension) drag their feet as a matter of nature. If they can't make money doing it, they're not going to do it. If the government gives them money to do it, they'll take money and then not do it.
 
@TylerH one thing that has me excited is this proposal: MEPs call for a common electronic charger
 
@bad_coder I mean, we've been moving toward that for a long time
USB is already a common electronic charger
 
@TylerH That's because there are no (dis)incentives to do so. ;)
 
As for the botnets the solution is actually regulation of producers holding them to some kind of standard. Otherwise, the more junk hardware with IP's you produce the more botnets you get.
@TylerH problem is, if I buy a laptop every model comes with a non-interchangeable charger that can't be reused.
 
7:08 PM
@bad_coder That should go well
 
@bad_coder It already exist, it's called type-c
It can deliver >40 W if I'm not mistaken
 
@Braiam then abolish types a-z / c
 
@bad_coder Type A would not go away any time soon. Type C needs to be cheaper on the host side
 
@bad_coder most laptops can be charged with a generic charger, you just need the right-sized round plug
 
@Machavity I think that xkcd is about software, because you can't sell anything electrical that doesn't conform to a ton of regulation.
 
7:10 PM
some will deliver more or less power, true, but...
and anyway yeah most laptops nowadays come with USB-C chargers I think
 
@TylerH In different voltages and polarities as I discovered the hard way
 
which is reversible
 
@TylerH that's the adapter I have right now, problem is next laptop I buy comes with another adapter (again not interchangeable and no opt-out.)
 
I mean you are complaining about having to get a new charger but not a new laptop?
 
just outlaw laptops
ez
 
7:12 PM
no way man, I tiered of desktops. I'll move back to desktops in 6 to 8 years.
 
Also would you rather they don't include a charger with laptops? I think Apple does this for a lot of its products
everything is an extra $100
 
@bad_coder Nope. Even says "A/C chargers" at the top
 
then again Apple is more of an appliance maker than a computer maker
 
@TylerH if the chargers were really universal you could pay the extra 90$ for a stylish white plastic, or just buy OEM for 10$. (Didn't know Apple has opt-out, they just scored points with me for being environmentally friendly.)
 
Universal doesn't mean public domain
A lot of companies sell Apple-compatible chargers for cheaper than Apple, but they are still not $10, because they have to pay Thunderbolt royalties
 
7:16 PM
@TylerH only the law needs to be public, whoever don't conform gets their product apprehended :D
oh man, they put a patent on a 1mA difference :O
@Machavity yes just noticed, anyway in my house over the past 20 years we've had dozens and dozens of adapters. half a dozen would have been enough. I actually got a drawer full I'm waiting to send to recycling.
@Braiam man, put 1 single item on the consumer side and have producers adapt their boards (if they don't like it they can take their business elsewhere.)
 
yeah, but who gets to make said single item?
 
@KevinB as usual everyone. Put together a "Consortium" as usual (e.g. W3c) define a norm, set politically deadlines, and get all the stakeholders in a room.
@KevinB that's how SQL was initially created and standardized among many other techs we use today.
 
@TylerH Sadly so. There are a few people fighting the "questions as documentation" fight, and the reasoning sometimes cuts through. But some people are determined to be uncontrollably furious.
 
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8:40 PM
@bad_coder Type A's are cheap to make too. They are simpler and have a lower gauge rating
 
8:52 PM
what to do with this answer? Looks link-only to me (not a formal request as I am unsure)
 
@halfer And that's why I don't comment, unless I really believe the question can be improved into something.
BTW, morbid curiosity got a hold of me, and checked out the rules, here's the first: A burn is a targeted, well-placed jab at another person, organization, or group of people
 
๐Ÿค”๐Ÿ’ญ
 
9:08 PM
@Braiam Questions on Reddit can rarely be improved ;=)
 
@halfer I meant on this site.
 
Gotcha. I wonder if I comment too often, but then I am an eternal optimist { halo }
 
@OlegValter NAA
 
I only comment when someone is wrong on the internet
 
"this solution is awesome: links to solution"
 
9:12 PM
especially when i run out of downvotes
 
@TylerH thanks! I've been leaning towards NAA but needed a second pair of eyes
 
@Braiam don't know what "a burn" is, but a jab is a quick punch with the arm corresponding to the forward leg.
 
@bad_coder English language sadly doesn't have enough words, like other languages.
 
running out of downvotes sucks
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9:33 PM
@KevinB almost as bad as running out of beer ...
 
Why would you want to downvote beer?
... we have but that's not quite up to scratch.
 
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10:39 PM
Not sure what was going on there - seemed like a half decent question until the spam link was added. Family/friends?
.. well, OK, 0.1% decent?
 
10:58 PM
 
11:10 PM
@AdrianMole Copying post from another site.
 
@Braiam OK - That makes sense. But OP self-deleted, so our moderation worked.
... and long may that continue!
 
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