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12:19 AM
@CodyGray Thank you for your reply. The part about the user behaving inappropriate, wasn't obvious to me as one who came to the scene later after the smoke had cleared and the question was fully locked. Your locking it does make more sense, and was an appropriate moderator action, although I still posit that it be somewhat cleaner if another moderator had been requested to review the user's behaviors and then had taken thes action.
@CodyGray Regarding the question's site-appropriateness, I saw it as a "please guide me/I don't know where to start" type question, and these type of questions, in my opinion are too broad. Of course my opinion is just that, my opinion, and others may and will disagree.
 
12:35 AM
 
 
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2:56 AM
Do we have a way to lookup our own past cv-pls ? I got a question that I want to request CV'ed, but fairly certain I already have. Do I just scroll through graveyard?
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis You can use this link (personalized for you) and add any query to it that might help
 
@RyanM very nice, thank you!
 
No problem :-)
 
3:10 AM
@RyanM Oh man, I should never have asked for this. I'm scrolling through posts that have since been reopened: the most trash typos, duplicates:(
 
3:41 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'm sorry, but I don't see why another moderator would be needed to roll back clearly inappropriate edits to the question or lock the question to prevent further such edits from being made. That just seems like creating unnecessary work for other people. You genuinely think it is a conflict of interest for me to lock a question where I happened to post an answer, even when the edits that are being made are clearly inappropriate content for this site?
A lot of people have been calling my decisions into question lately, so I am genuinely not sure if maybe I am just losing my mind lately and not making good decisions, because even after reassessing them, I'm not seeing them as mistakes.
 
4:21 AM
So, I've been trying to hunt down more offers of payment besides the ones I found earlier. Is this one spam, or just VTC?
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica If that "willing to pay for it" sentence was edited out, would there be anything spammy there? In my opinion, no. That makes it not spam, at least not spam-flaggable, so you should just vote to close.
It's the same logic as rude/abusive... If you can change a single variable name, or edit out a single sentence, to salvage the post, then it shouldn't be flagged as rude/abusive.
 
Makes sense... that's why I was wondering about that one. Hopefully my comment pointing them to the appropriate Meta post about the policy on job offers will suffice in the case.
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I would seriously just edit it out.
Suddenly, you now have a legitimate question.
 
 
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6:42 AM
stackoverflow.com/questions/28840559/… is this no repro? from the self answer?
 
@SurajRao I would think so. I have no idea what Mollom is. Do you?
 
some content moderation service in drupal according to google search
 
Eh, either way, it doesn't need to stick around.
 
7:26 AM
@karel Meh, not sure about that. Managing dependencies for a software package seems like a task that is strongly related to programming. Deployment is a subset of software development. And that definitely shouldn't be migrated to Super User.
 
7:43 AM
@CodyGray That question has been answered by the author in the comments as follows: Your GUID tip lead me to find "dao350.dll", which is in "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\DAO". I copied it over, regsvr32'd it, and.. success! Maybe someone ought to post that comment as an answer.
 
@CodyGray Thanks i removed my close vote and summited an answer :)
 
@DaImTo Awesome!
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null (because situation resolved itself \o/)
 
@CodyGray lets hope it helps they didnt add al their code but i can guess what they are doing wrong.
 
Sometimes, a crystal ball is the most useful tool that we can have.
Or, failing that, some experience.
 
@karel so, should we reopen-pls this?
 
7:55 AM
I'll re-close it as a dupe. One moment.
 
8:09 AM
"Moderator satisfaction is at 83%, the strongest it’s been in the past year." -- CEO blog update
you'd think they'd want to measure over a longer time ... except then you wouldn't, would you
 
I found a question with a few repeating answers. So anyone with a few extra del votes can help clean it up. To make it clear I will post them as separate requests
 
@tripleee To be fair, they didn't do moderator satisfaction surveys before, because there was no reason to do so.
 
hmmm, that doesn't actually make it less silly to tout that as an achievement
 
Yeah, that claimed score doesn't match at all with the results of the most recent satisfaction survey that they shared with moderators. At best, they're using the results from a question that asked whether are interested to continue serving as a moderator of a Stack Exchange site, but that's super misleading. There were other questions that more directly asked about the relationship between the moderators and the company, and they had lower scores.
 
8:25 AM
a common surveyor technique is to let respondents choose on a scale 1-10 and then count the percentage who responded with a 7 or higher, for example; could that apply here?
surveymonkey.com/mp/net-promoter-score-definition-formula says 9 or higher but I guess they could hack this
 
@tripleee There was a survey about job satisfaction we did at work. Turned out that on a 1-5, only 1 and 2 were counted as "unsatisfied" and 3-5 were positive.
Turned out that we had a really high satisfaction on the job. Some people were very surprised by this result.
 
Has someone addressed the fact that [Example] works in comments but not if you post it as part of an anwser?
 
@DaImTo You mean magic links?
 
I've asked about the statistic used in the CEO's blog post internally, since I am not sure that I am allowed to share the specific detailed results of the moderator satisfaction survey publicly, which makes it difficult to reason about the cherry-picked statistic.
 
@VLAZ yes the magic links had to manually add the link to the answer so lazy i am.
 
8:35 AM
@DaImTo You shouldn't really be posting links to the Help Center as part of an answer, except maybe on Meta.
 
 
@CodyGray Yes i know but as i unclose voted that question and they still wont post all their code i thought i would add it again stackoverflow.com/a/69750052/1841839
 
@DaImTo I would continue to include that as a comment, not as part of an answer. That way, it can be easily removed if/when the code is added. But that's just my personal preference.
 
@CodyGray sounds like a plan.
 
8:49 AM
@CodyGray, could you please migrate this new question to Arduino SE? stackoverflow.com/questions/69750776/…
it is a mix of wiring a arduino software specific problems
 
@Juraj Sure; done. Note that a room owner will probably come along later and refer you to a rule in SOCVR that users shouldn't ping mods for things that can be handled with flags. A flag that clearly states the question is off-topic for SO and requests migration should be sufficient. Even better if you mention in the flag you're a mod on the target site!
 
@CodyGray I flagged but it takes days until the flag is handled
 
Sometimes :-)
 
@CodyGray it migrated to Android
 
Gah!!
Sorry, I completely missed that.
See, this is why you don't ping mods in chat unless you want something screwed up.
 
8:58 AM
@CodyGray sorry
 
Should be fixed now. I've pinged an Android mod to also fix my mistake on his site.
 
9:11 AM
What would be a suitable tag for this? stackoverflow.com/q/69746483/1839439
 
@Dharman ?
 
can I remove the rest?
 
Probably. Maybe can stay? I'm actually not sure whether it's relevant.
 
CS sounds like a meta tag
I left only terminology. Thanks Cody
 
It seems like the PHP tag might still be relevant, but I am not too sure.
 
9:37 AM
@CodyGray Wow, the timeline for that is a mess of inaccurate information...it says the migration was to arduino, but was rejected... but...that's wrong.
I guess the code really doesn't like a question migrated off a site twice.
Screenshot in case it shows differently for mods
Also uh... "The community is reviewing whether to reopen this question as of 41 mins ago."
 
Yeah, probably not. I cleared the migration history there after I mistakenly migrated it to Android, and clearing the migration history is a very destructive operation.
@RyanM HAHAHAHA
Oh, all sorts of brokenness there. Yeah, apparently it did not actually register the second migration. I guess that's just flat-out not supported. Although I would swear that right after I migrated it the second time, it did show the correct message.
Oh... I know what happened.... I asked an Android mod to delete the question on their site. That rejected the migration. So the message probably was correctly displayed after I completed the second migration (to Arduino), but the deletion of the migrated question on Android still resulted in a rejection of the migration, which the system still connected back to the original question on SO, even though I cleared the migration history on it first.
That's why the "migration rejected" event occured after the migration to Arduino.
 
Ahhhh, so you migrated it to Arduino before it was rejected on Android?
I see, that's definitely a bug, but...a heck of an edge case.
Probably unlike to come up more than once in a blue moon.
 
@RyanM Yes. I migrated to Android accidentally, Juraj pointed out my mistake, I cleared the migration history, migrated to the correct site (Arduino), and then reached out to an Android mod to delete it on their site. That deletion happened after the migration to Arduino. Yeah, it's a bug. Clearing the migration history should completely disconnect the question, so it should not connect the deletion to it as a rejection.
 
Obvious Schpam
 
> ⚠️🚨 𝐋𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐍 𝐔𝐏🚨⚠️
Nope...
 
9:53 AM
I say we reuse that notice for all answers on Meta.
 
> 💥👏️🙏⚠️🚨 𝐋𝐈𝐒𝐓𝐄𝐍 𝐔𝐏🚨⚠️🙏👏💥
 
Needs more cowbell
 
🐄🔔
 
Given that it's got 4 upvotes, is it reasonable to replace this entire NAA answer with the 4th comment to that answer, which appears to be the actual answer? stackoverflow.com/a/4405456
 
@DavidBuck IMO, should have been posted as a new answer. Not sure why the existing "answer" should be drastically changed just to preserve the upvotes.
 
10:01 AM
@VLAZ Understood. My first instinct was to flag as NAA, but that might just lose the comment which has been possibly been useful. Then again, 10 years ago those upvotes might have just been to support the idea of providing more info.
 
jps
10:18 AM
is "Please, upvote my other question, too: stackoverflow.com/questions/69657886/…" an acceptable bounty reason? Seen on stackoverflow.com/questions/68559168/…
 
@jps I'd modflag.
 
Seems like a waste of rep. That linked question is deleted...
 
Heh, well, since the "other question" is deleted 6 days ago, there's little point in flagging that now...
But, no, it's obviously not a valid bounty reason, and had that been caught earlier, it would have definitely been worth mod-flagging.
 
The user is suspended?
 
Yes, for unrelated reasons.
 
10:22 AM
I happen to recall why. It was indeed for different reasons.
 
Ah, ok
 
Um is this a bug report submittion? stackoverflow.com/q/69752318/1841839
 
@DaImTo Maybe. The important question is, can it be turned into a valid question? Bugs with an API are on-topic here, as long as they are phrased as actual questions.
 
jps
The user is probably also question banned now for having some closed questions and wanted to get some positive rep to circumvent the ban.
 
But personally I do not understand the reluctance in reverting a bad bounty even if it's about to end.
 
10:25 AM
I'd rather people lose the rep from an illegitimate bounty.
 
@CodyGray you are kinder than i am. question: Your edits dont get logged as edits?
 
@DaImTo I didn't make any edits there. Yes, my edits definitely get logged as edits.
 
This would probably call for an "invalidate bounty" operation for moderators. Has this ever been proposed?
 
I'd be shocked if it hadn't.
 
Right. :)
 
10:26 AM
@CodyGray spookie the question was changed it doesnt mention bug anymore its been edited. but not by who.
 
@DaImTo If the edit doesn't show, it must have been by the original author within their 5-minute grace period. There are no comments, so nothing would have cancelled the grace period.
 
@DaImTo Once more, some have a lot of expectations from community. I am not sure many have time to go thru that much code in the project on github and watch several youtube videos to be able to answer to their question
 
@E_net4thecurator Then again, I've been shocked before.
 
Did it hurt?
 
@Vega I did around in source code for libraries all the time to get answers to questions.
 
10:28 AM
Sometimes. Sometimes, it hurt physically; other times, it just hurt my ego.
 
@CodyGray see i didnt know that was a thing.
 
Yeah, for all posts (questions and answers), the author gets a 5-minute grace period to edit, without anything appearing in the edit history. If a comment is left during that grace period, it cancels the grace period, and any subsequent edits show up in the revision history.
 
11:12 AM
Is this the longest link-only answer I've ever seen, or is there an answer buried somewhere in there?
 
Hi this is my first SO chat message ever, sorry in advance if I'm off topic:
I retagged somebody else's post a while ago, but it got reverted to its original mistagged state. I like to contest the revert
 
This one? Yeah, they're clearly wrong. Your edit was correct.
 
Yes it was the OP that reverted it
It's not about the rep, its just that it was annoying to see it was mistagged again
 
@saQuist Unfortunately, because that was already overridden by the post owner, I cannot override it in such a way that you will get the credit for making the edit. However, I have rolled back the state to your edit, since, as mentioned, your edit was unambiguously correct, as can be clearly seen by reading the tag wiki excerpt.
 
@CodyGray maybe it would be a good idea to leave a note explaining for the OP
 
11:18 AM
I can only type so quickly!
 
@CodyGray oooopssss... :D
 
:-D
 
Okay thanks for the rollback
 
No problem. As for what you should generally do in a case like this... I don't have a good answer for that. I suppose a custom moderator flag is reasonable, as long as you are very clear about what happened and why it requires moderator intervention.
 
So in that case I just hit the 'flag' button on the question itself?
 
11:26 AM
@saQuist Yes, you would click the "flag" link on the question just underneath the tags, select the "in need of moderator intervention" option, and write a message. Be sure to explain clearly what you want a moderator to do, and why it requires moderator intervention.
 
@RyanM That sounds like gee should be renamed to libgee. Even the project wiki agree wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/…
 
@Braiam Even the tag wiki excerpt agrees that's what it's called. Yeah, that should definitely be renamed.
Just punted three more mistagged questions out of that tag.
 
Good idea, @Braiam. Rename incoming...
 
And the libgee and gee tag disappeared?
 
only temporarily, refresh the page
 
11:33 AM
Should not have. I renamed [gee] to [libgee], and made it a synonym so as not to break bookmarks, etc. If you're experiencing problems, you should try blaming caching. :-)
 
Argh, I think most of this tag might be Earth Engine questions...I found way more to punt.
 
:-(
 
Anything specific to maps or features/properties in javascript seems to be about the google earth engine
 
Oh, and there are also Generalized Estimating Equations questions like this one...
 
I mean, I'm having a hard time looking for a question about the gnome library.
@RyanM That is not even programmin
 
11:41 AM
Yeah, if I keep this up the tag is going to be (almost?) entirely burned, which was not my intent when I started...
 
vala questions are about that tag.
 
11:55 AM
The results are in: 8/100 questions in that tag were correctly tagged.
 
The power of TLA!
 
@CodyGray for the record, I hate that dupe target. But that’s what the community insists on using. I’ve dupe hammered questions with other targets and had gold badge holders change it to that one after the fact. I’ve been explicitly told that’s the one to use. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
@RyanM Wow. Would have been easier to do it in reverse: retag the correct questions, then merge the [libgee] tag into [google-earth-engine]. Something to note for next time, I guess.
@miken32 Ugh. I guess that needs to be discussed on Meta or something then? That's... really bad.
 
It wasn't all Earth Engine (a few were the stats concept)...but it was mostly Earth Engine. We'd have had to recreate the tag wiki if it were done with a merge, but...well, the tag wiki excerpt probably doesn't need the warning about the other GEEs anymore either.
 
12:10 PM
Gee, you don't think? Seems like it could still gee someone into the correct usage.
 
12:48 PM
I would like to mention here that users of Google Earth Engine are encouraged (from the help website of GEE) to reach for help in GIS.SE. Most of the Google employees that answer questions are there, but sometimes answer questions on SO if they are correctly tagged. Should the tagg wiki encourage people to ask there question on GIS.SE?
 
@saQuist You can try, but we have plenty of tag excerpts that point you to other SE sites for off-topic help and people routinely ignore them ([windows], [linux], [wifi], etc)
 
People even manage to ignore "DO NOT USE."
 
Yeah fair points
 
You can't ignore something that you don't know is there :D
 
And that's the other problem: people on mobile will never see the excerpt
 
1:22 PM
I see this question has been closed (can't say I agree with Needs Details and Clarity) and reopened, but it definitely strikes me as off-topic as it's not a software development problem, just a RFI which seems closest to a Recommendation closure reason. Any reason to not close it as it's been reopened once? stackoverflow.com/q/25103273
 
@DavidBuck Another mod already sniped you there
 
@Machavity I found a good solution to that already
ban people on mobile from asking questions
 
@Machavity So I saw. I guess I thought right...
 
@TylerH There ya go. Just need to convince Aaron Shekley now :P
 
1:31 PM
@Machavity ha
 
Is there any evidence that people on mobile ask lower-rated questions than people on desktop versions?
 
@saQuist No because it's not reported anywhere whether a question was posted on mobile or not that we have access to
 
@saQuist Let me ask you this: how many people use a mobile phone as their coding environment? (and I mean actually writing the code on the phone)
 
But it is harder to do pretty much any part of asking a question on mobile, so therefore it logically follows that the incidence of low-quality questions posted from a mobile device will be higher
at least as a percentage
 
I imagine the autocorrect would cause some havok.
 
1:34 PM
Luckily it's not too hard to turn autocorrect off
I haven't used it in close to a decade
 
Mobile does many things well, but writing long-format special-character-laden code isn't one of them.
 
When the question is a link to a photo of a screen ;)
 
ugh, a ~36-score blatantly wrong/irrelevant answer
one bad case of a correct accepted answer being below an incorrect knee-jerk answer :-(
 
1:50 PM
Is this spam?
 
@JeanneDark probably
 
Thanks
 
I want to test the reaction on something I've been thinking the last days. What do you think about adding a new kind of flag for repeated answers? I mean, do you think it's useful? Makes sense? The most stupid thing you ever heard?
 
@Tomerikoo We've got that, it's under "In need of moderator intervention" - comes with a text box to paste the link of the duplicate into.
...although if a moderator thinks they're bad, maybe I'm off-base on how well-suited they are.
 
2:00 PM
Yeah that's exactly where I'm coming off. Why does this require a mod to handle? Why can't the community deal with it alone through a queue?
 
@Tomerikoo We've got that, it's under "In need of moderator intervention" - comes with a text box to paste the link of the duplicate into.
 
@AdrianMole chat needs a duplicate flag too apparently ;-)
 
@JeanneDark Thanks. Interestingly that request is by a mod. So it's nice to see it's not only me who thinks it's a problem, also dem diamonds
Well I posted an answer on that meta Jeanne linked. Hopefully it will resurface and gain some attention
 
2:18 PM
stackoverflow.com/posts/69755386/revisions is this a valid edit or should it be closed as typo?
 
@SurajRao absolutely not a valid edit. that should be an answer or a comment, not an edit.
 
@SurajRao I think it should be rolled back, it is up to OP to clarify if they are writing i or 1 in their code
 
it's certainly changing the meaning of the question
 
Rollback does make the code meaningless.
@SurajRao repeated question stackoverflow.com/questions/69754252/…
 
The thing about people not using the correct tags is that they think they already know what tags they want to use. If someone asking a programming question about google earth engine, and knows that it's usually called "gee", they will use gee since that's something that they know it is known of. That's why creating unambiguous and specific tags is so important.
Also, the fact that people use tags as hashtags or keywords, rather than categories. I wonder if renaming tags to categories makes that more obvious.
 
@SurajRao I don't think this can lack debugging details, as it does not appear to be a debugging question.
 
I want add other serie for this radar chart draggable: The link is dead
 
Then it needs details or clarity (just voted for that). It's still not a debugging question.
 
ah ok
 
2:55 PM
> Voted to reopen. Let's have some fun, before the new moderators eat us.
^ I suppose I should just mod flag
 
Ope. These all look the same to me...
Anyone have an idea which one would be a good main tag to synonymize the others against?
 
@TylerH Not familiar with the subject matter, but seems like is most descriptive and I think it's a phrase in common use.
 
Zoe
4:13 PM
Does anyone know what the canonical for this question is, or if that one is the canonical? I could've sworn there was a better/higher voted dupe target than that one somewhere, but I can't find it
 
@Zoe First time seeing you here with the diamond so will use the chance to say congrats!
4
 
Zoe
^^
 
@Zoe Not a Java SME, but this one looks about the same error and problem with a lot more views
 
@Tomerikoo lol
Nice finding.
 
Zoe
@Tomerikoo lower answer quality though. Some dupe targets are so hard to find xd
 
4:20 PM
My crystal ball (called Google) never fails
@Zoe That was going to be my next comment... The one I linked is higher voted with a lot more views, but the one you linked seems to have better and higher voted answers...
 
Zoe
Might be a sign we don't have a proper canonical on it
 
Definitely not a target, but another one for the dupe chain: stackoverflow.com/questions/21990742/…
 
Zoe
Yeahh, there are a lot of dupes of the same thing
That and top level variable initialization
And we have a separate dupe for that. Two actually, one with Jon Skeet
 
Jon Skeet has a doppelganger?
 
4:27 PM
Nope. The Doppelganger tries to have a Jon Skeet.
 
Zoe
"Get your Jon Skeet today FOR FREE!"
 
Does it come with a reputation bonus?
 
4:43 PM
 
@AdrianMole No results found. Did you mean Chuck Norris?
 
hehe
 
Zoe
@AdrianMole no, but it does come with a million thanks
 
hehe²
 
5:01 PM
This is probably a link-only NAA, right?
 
@AdrianMole I would say so
 
Deleted before I could either flag or review it.
 
@desertnaut - thanks for cleaning up those "General computing" ones above :)
 
@tink anytime
 
@AdrianMole Flag first, ask questions later.
 
5:03 PM
Well, I got to casting a delete vote on it, at least.
 
Should I always do this kind of stuff? I always wonder if it's worth the effort if it will be closed/roombad anyway :)
 
5:36 PM
@Zoe why not have that one be the canonical? It is 10 years old, has multiple answers, and is linked to from at least half a dozen other questions
 
Zoe
That's the plan failing to find any better canonicals. Like I said, thought there was a better one. Guess I misremembered
 
Ah
 
6:17 PM
@tink Why does that have an upvote?!
 
@Braiam no idea :( ... people probably being "utilitarian" ;)
Sometimes I feel like we should give up on the whole idea of topics and rename Stack Overflow to "reddit Mark II"
 
@tink And maybe rename Meta to "Facebook Mark -1"?
 
6:51 PM
@AdrianMole well what's Facebook's new thing now
didn't they just have a press conference
Oh, they rebranded as Meta, literally
that's too good
 
@TylerH ?
 
@VLAZ Facebook pulled a Google and restructured itself to be a "holding company" named Meta. Facebook is now a subsidiary of that "Meta" parent company (Google did the same with "Alphabet" several years back)
 
It's more or less what SE did, they created a company that owns a product called SO.
 
meh
 
7:03 PM
I don't remember if the GOOGL is still in use in the bonds markets
 
ta
 
@Braiam Google corporate was renamed to Alphabet a long time ago. And it covers more than just Google (stuff like Waymo, etc.)
 
@AdrianMole heh .. sounds great.
 
@TylerH Ah, I see.
 
@Machavity I know, but I remember that GOOGL from some yahoo articles.
Yep, nasdaq still lists alphabet as GOOGL.
Probably avoiding problems with their systems.
 
7:06 PM
@Braiam Alphabet Class A stock is still traded under GOOGL
 
So-o-o, can we just redirect people to Fb when they have complaints about downvotes?
 
@VLAZ I'm game
 
Take it to Meta. That Meta, over there. The one with the VR goggles.
 
LOL
 
Time for somebody to make a VR application for accessing MSO.
Vote by punching the post up or down.
 
7:19 PM
@VLAZ Enter questions by punching them as well
 
Also punch comments. I can't actually think of an interaction that will be better than punching.
I guess your shoulder will hurt after spending time in VR MSO land.
 
So, instead of upvotes and downvotes, we'll have uppercuts and body slams.
 
Sounds like this is The Way to use the site as Jeff intended all along.
Technology just had to catch up to his vision.
 
Are we all going to become coding ninjas after all?
@VLAZ honestly this probably exists in Second Life or VRChat already in some form
 
Am I supposed to be able to see other users bookmarks?
 
7:25 PM
@Braiam Yes
 
Interesting, so that means that I can bookmark users to search for particular posts they bookmarked.
 
Followed posts are private but bookmarks have never been
 
Sounds like the beginning of a bookmark cloud.
 
@Braiam Yes. So, technically, you can organise your bookmarks via sockpuppets.
 
If you've got >10k rep, you can also see other users' bookmarks on deleted questions from their bookmarks page.
 
7:28 PM
Although, I'm not sure if organizing your bookmarks via sockpuppets doesn't fall under "doing something you cannot" with the secondary accounts.
 
7:41 PM
@VLAZ I'm not doing something that isn't possible with my main account... well, except for another category that isn't included on the system.\
 
@VLAZ There's not really any "gain" opportunity there so even if it were something not doable with one account, it probably wouldn't be something mods would bother tamping down on
 
That was meant as a "/s", I just managed to omit it at the end. Joke at the expense of SO not doing categories.
 
@VLAZ OH, but SO do categories, just that they are called tags.
 
Is there a cattery tag?
 
Tags are not the categories I want. I want to split my bookmarks into things like "canonicals", "interesting", and "read later", for example.
 
7:46 PM
@TylerH If someone wanted to use multiple sockpuppets just to hold different bookmarks, I don't see that as a problem.
IIRC, there's at least one userscript which implements categories for bookmarks, so that might be more useful.
Personally, I'd prefer to just use a separate folder in my browser bookmarks, but I can see that for some things it's nice to have them on-site (e.g. seeing updates).
 
Userscripts and bookmarks are not very useful to me. I use 4-5 devices to visit SO with at least two sync profiles between them. One is a phone which doesn't even use the same browser. I can rig up some system that syncs bookmarks between all of these but I'd really rather not do all that just because SO is ignoring the request.
 
Is this an answer?
 
@VLAZ While I can understand that, I don't really see a way to get what you want without some type of manipulation outside of SE, given that it's not a natively available functionality and unlikely to be implemented in the near future. Personally, I find userscripts to be the easiest way to accomplish that.
 
@blackgreen Looks like one. I think it answers the Q, but it could be edited to make that more clear.
 
8:14 PM
rene's other room has taken the news pretty hard
in Tavern on the Facebook on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 4 mins ago, by Mithical
room topic changed to Tavern on the Facebook: MY GOD, IT'S FULL OF STARS AND BACKLOG! General friendly chit-chat; general discussions about MSE or the wider network also welcome. [bug] [crickets] [discussion] [excuses] [support] [waffles]
 
8:25 PM
@VLAZ Yeah, kind of sad my request for better bookmarks functionality was one of the highest scoring answers on their "what should we do to improve profiles" question a year or two back, and yet... it got ignored
Instead they... removed lots of useful information, and redesigned it so that all the useless info is put in front of your face first
 
Don't forget the tables and the design for portrait mode.
 
I mean, table support in posts is pretty nice
 
True. Tables in the profile look fugly, though.
 
Honestly, I'm surprised there isn't a Facebook Stack Exchange site yet. It'd probably be one of the most active sites in terms of new questions
 
@TylerH We had.
 
8:30 PM
It was like collectives but...worse?
I'm trying to decide but I think it was worse.
 
100% worse
 
It was kinda of a category, for all facebook products.
 
@Braiam :O
 
Wait, I can't believe you all don't know that?
 
I've ignored every-/anything facebook from the start ...
 
8:33 PM
Yeah, Collectives (so far) are inconsequential. Were I more cynical I'd say dead on arrival. That FB thing just festered over time.
 
collectives are a scam
 
@Braiam That's just a gag post about the tag, basically
It was never more than just Stack Overflow, filtered to Facebook content
I'm talking about an actual Facebook-focused Stack Exchange site
 
Nothing wrong with collectives ... ;)
 
> We can now create a mini-site by selecting relevant tags (in this case, anything Facebook related) and grouping together just the content from those tags. When you visit a mini-site, you’ll see only the content from those tags. Not only will you be able to see only questions related to Facebook, but the reputation on the user ranking pages will also only show reputation earned on questions tagged Facebook.
That sounds awfully close to what collectives do, sans subdomain + blog.
 
@TylerH That's how you get people who complain about the new design of Fb being shitty. As in, it actually happened - some guy's blog was swamped about such comments when it was briefly ranked very high when people searched for "facebook", clicked the first link and tried to log in. The blog had comment section where you could use FB to comment and there were just a bunch of comments about why FB looks so ugly now.
 
8:38 PM
@VLAZ Hey, I never said it would be pretty ;-)
 
@VLAZ So, the Collective has been assimilated? :)
 
We resisted them but turns out our efforts were futile.
 
@TheMaster I notice you didn't vote to reopen yourself. How come? Are you out of reopen votes perhaps?
 
Is anyone ever out of reopen votes?
 
8:55 PM
hmm
it's in the reopen queue supposedly?
 
@cigien I did in review. But I forgot and clicked the same place after the comment reply. That retracted my reopen vote😓 I can't vote to reopen again
 
i kinda expected the review in progress to show in the timeline
 
@TheMaster Ah, I see. Thanks.
 
9:22 PM
@KevinB Reviews which are in process are only shown to moderators. Reviews which are completed are shown in the timeline to everyone.
 
9:56 PM
Is it just me or do others also have difficulty understanding what they're actually asking?
 
@tink Just poor English and/or poor typing skills. But it's "Seeking recommendations...", anyway.
 
10:10 PM
 
@AdrianMole thanks ...
 
Good to see it closed - now hoping no one else finds it a good question, so it can get roombad ;)
 
 
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11:17 PM
Is the uncanny similarity of this and this anything other than coincidence?
 
^^ A rhetorical question really. Perhaps I should rather ask what to best do about it.
... it's quite clearly not coincidental.
 
11:44 PM
@AdrianMole and what did you do about it?
 
@tink Nothing, yet. The two posts came up consecutively in review. I don't know enough about selenium to assess whether or not that similarity is suspicious, so I'd rather not raise a mod flag. The posts are from different accounts (both brand new) and less than 1 hour apart, so I thought maybe someone in here might offer advice.
 
Gotcha ... sorry, I have nothing to add ... =/. Neither on the Selenium nor on the "suspicious activity" front.
 
But, seeing them one after the other, the similarity was rather striking. (Especially with the comments, to boot.)
 
Yeah, I hear yah. One of them (one sockpuppet? :D) at least cleaned up the formatting.
 
Maybe just a quickly-made account with lost credentials? It happens.
@tink Someone else did the code formatting.
 
11:50 PM
hmmmm ... and rather than requesting a password reset one creates a new account w/ a different email address? :). Sounds possible, I'd find it suspicious, though.
Oh - I didn't look too closely, missed that.
 
Too many pale-green pattern avatars.
 
LOL
Yeah, we need some sparkly blue ones :D
 

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