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12:57 AM
@KenWhite Is that even about programming? I'm not familiar with that technology.
 
1:15 AM
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I don't see anything as it's written now that would make it programming related. If it is, the poster needs to edit it to make it clearer and more specific.
 
 
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4:38 AM
Would one flag gibberish-spamming comments as rude and abusive, unfriendly and unkind, or mod attention?
 
I'd probably go for R/A if the intention is clearly to disrupt
and if it's an ongoing problem mod flag
 
It stopped as of 3 hours ago, but they've managed to make six such comments during that time that all follow that same M.O. I don't know why they stopped, but I have a feeling it wasn't regret(since the comments still exist as of this moment).
 
@Daedalus-ReinstateMonica I'd also go for R/A, particularly if there's more than one or if it's only one and they don't have other good participation on the site.
 
 
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8:04 AM
@derM you want to check the room FAQ for how to properly format a close request
 
9:03 AM
@tripleee: Thanks, I'll try again!
 
9:20 AM
@derM much better, thanks!
 
 
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11:01 AM
 
11:20 AM
@halfer did you or your script break? It is missing the cv-pls tag markup ...
 
I need a >2K help on a rollback.
 
@Scratte sure
 
@rene I meant for them to delete their post.. they deleted their profile :( stackoverflow.com/a/61049385/12695027
 
@Scratte that's ... rigorous :P
 
@Scratte you can clean up your comments as well
 
11:31 AM
@Adriaan I find it sad, really. No reason to do that..
@rene Of course. Done :)
 
@rene Heh, just me! Not had any coffee yet ;-). Would you delete? I have re-raised.
 
@Dharman if it's important and unstated, that's a close reason, but... looks like C++ to me
 
It's very odd-looking C++ or C - the .TypeErase = FLASH_TYPEERASE_PAGES (and similar lines) will work as structure-member initializers, but they're formatted in an odd way.
 
@Dharman They have some predefined files with .c and .h surnames, so I'm assuming c. Like this one: disca.upv.es/aperles/arm_cortex_m3/llibre/st/…
 
@Scratte I don't see any mention of ".c" files, and ".h" is equally valid for either C or C++.
 
12:57 PM
@AdrianMole I didn't say any files with this surname makes it valid c or c++ :) I was "assuming" :)
 
A file with the ".c" extension (actually, I quite like "surname") would imply C over C++. But I don't see any. However, as an educated guess would go with C.
 
Maybe the language is "stm32" :)
 
1:17 PM
@AdrianMole Ok, so it is a mystery. It's closed so I will leave it as it is.
 
@Dharman There is a similar one on electronics
 
2:19 PM
 
2:48 PM
A user is answering a lot of Questions with the same spam-like content. Should I just raise the custom flag or should I additionally raise a spam flag?
 
@Scratte flag all of them as spam but flag one as custom and link to the others
 
Just a note to the moderators that the user has others (which will be spam-flagged) should suffice, rater than having to give a specific link. But do flag them all, and please feel free to share one of them with us vigilantes.
 
Oops.. means Waffle, I think
 
Why oops?
Object-Oriented Personal Spam?
 
3:04 PM
@AdrianMole I did raise a custom flag.. mentioning the others. Then when I was just about to submit it, I could see more of them. So I just said that "..now there's more. Please check"
 
Mods can see all deleted posts for users (even those deleted as spam) over their entire account history, so as long as you just mention that the user made other spam posts, they can go and look for themselves
as adrian mentioned
 
And then they get to use the "Big Red Button" -deletes all the spam, marks all (your) flags as helpful and nukes the user, all in one tiny mouse click.
 
Oh, the agony of wanting to write an essay when there's only 500 characters available!
@AdrianMole The true pleasures of life, I suppose :D
@AdrianMole I didn't think of doing that. But the Oops was when I noticed they were all gone.
 
Suppose I answered a lot of posts like that, would I be Question banned when a moderator notices it? And if so, will it last forever?
 
3:18 PM
@Scratte you would probably not be question banned for posting spam answers
you would probably be answer banned or, more likely, outright suspended for a bit
and no, almost no real people are banned forever, though some are banned for years at a time
I don't know how long ip banning for bots lasts
 
@TylerH Sorry. I meant answer banned, not question banned. Does the suspension always come with a temporary 1 reputation?
 
Yeah - the temporary 1 rep. is for all suspensions. Full rep. is restored when the suspension ends, even including any that was earned while the suspension was in place.
 
4:05 PM
@Scratte Question bans, answer bans, and suspension are all different things. Suspension results in you having a reputation of 1 throughout the duration of the suspension, but answer bans and question bans don't.
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica Thank you. I suspected as much :)
How NAA is this Java answer?
 
4:39 PM
@Scratte I would not cast my flag on it.
 
@Dharman I didn't. I skipped. Thank you though :)
 
5:18 PM
I'm getting this message "Our system has identified this post as possible spam; please review carefully" in review on posts that doesn't at all look like spam, like this python answer. Does anyone know why?
 
Review carefully
 
@Scratte That's often (but not always) an indication that it's an audit.
 
@AdrianMole sh, that's a spoiler
 
... ah well, the secret's out now! ;(
 
@AdrianMole I don't think it was an audit :) Usually when it comes on an audit, it only used to be spam and the answer is gone. And it's a trick situation since sometimes the spammy content is removed.
 
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5:23 PM
@Scratte That's not right. It can be a false positive.
 
But, if you do review carefully, then you would, of course, check the actual post out via the "link" link. Then you would see if it is an audit.
 
@AdrianMole But this is the third time I'm seeing it on a perfectly fine post. Well.. this one is code only, so I wouldn't go off clicking the "No actions needed" even if it's an audit and the audit bot doesn't know that code-only answers aren't suppose to be good :)
 
@Scratte if it ever had a red flag on it (spam or rude/abusive) the system shows that message. Even if the flag has been retracted or has been declined in the mean time.
 
@rene Oh. That makes sense :) Thank you.
 
@rene You've been 'making sense' quite a lot of late - is everything OK?
 
5:30 PM
I'm in a sensible mood I guess.
 
he's been able to focus better with the quarantine in place
 
The tagline just got worse: Thanks a lot and happy quarantine
 
Yeah I saw that one - aarrrggh!
 
Fortunately I can't just go about on an edit spree. I'll leave that to you.
 
6:04 PM
@AdrianMole It's OK, only about 2.5 of those pages are referring to the COVID-19 quarantine
actually less than that
 
6:31 PM
@TylerH it feels weird to close a question as too broad when it's already been answered not too broadly.
 
@JohnDvorak The answer addresses only part of the question, and does so with opinions
 
ah, gotcha
Where's your vote, BTW?
 
@JohnDvorak my vote expired. I can't vote on it again for a while
 
ah, thanks
 
I think the Stack Exchange network should have a site for those types of Questions. They're the real struggle, not the technical isolated ones.
 
@Scratte It does. ^
 
That Question doesn't seem like it would welcomed there.
 
well yes, it's too broad
 
..and too technical, I think. So we're full circle on it.
 
There is no issue with questions being technical on Software Engineering
However they do need to be reasonably scoped (which is true on pretty much any site)
Software Engineering (née Programmers) is the site for broader, more opinion-based, conceptual questions. They accept questions with specific technical details. Of course if you are focused specifically on a technical review of your code then there's Code Review
 
6:44 PM
is there an exception re too broad?
 
where?
 
Ohh.. I read this "Questions that are asking for debugging ("help me find this error") or implementation ("how do I write...") have tended to be closed and down voted." And my eyes looked to the implementation
 
Too bad there's no option to vote to migrate to Software Engineering.
 
Yeah, personally I think Tex and Stats should be replaced in the migrate menu with Code Review and Software Engineering
but then again I also think the Wizard I demo'd should have been implemented and do a lot more of the heavy lifting of site migration pre ask
 
I wouldn't want to risk posting on that site with this "we don't have as much traffic and the community is fairly dead set on coding questions being off topic here."
 
6:49 PM
@IanCampbell You can, of course, specify any migration target in a custom close vote.
 
@AdrianMole Fair point
 
Woot, my thunderbolt dock arrived
 
7:07 PM
OK, I've gone through all the questions pre-April that mention 'quarantine' in some irrelevant way
You can use this search query to filter down to just the questions from April that mention 'quarantine'
 
7:29 PM
@TylerH And like He-man, you now have the power?
 
@Machavity Could you change the duplicate on this one, please? stackoverflow.com/questions/15439919/…
 
@Dharman Done
 
Thank you
 
@TylerH Care to place a wager on how long before we get a ?
 
7:51 PM
@AdrianMole hopefully we never get it. We already dealt with tags for covid-19 and coronavirus
 
Presumably (hopefully) they've now been blacklisted.
 
@bad_coder hi, and welcome to SOCVR. For future requests, please use [tag:cv-pls] or [tag:flag-pls] for the type of request you are making. Check out socvr.org for more info!
 
@TylerH thank you for pointing that out.
 
@Machavity If I turn into He-Man while using this dock I will definitely be giving it a 5 star review on Newegg
 
@AdrianMole Tags are only blacklisted under specific circumstances (unless an employee decides otherwise). The process is that it must be burninated. After burnination is complete, then the tag must be recreated by someone intending to use it. After that, a request for blacklisting on MSO will be considered.
 
7:56 PM
OK - Wasn't entirely sure of the procedure. So, if they're not yet blacklisted, they probably will get to be soon.
 
8:07 PM
Can a Java person take a look at this to see if it is a dupe of the question mentioned in the answer?
@TylerH @AdrianMole I've gone through all the questions mentioning 'quarantine' up until those posted today. Of which there are currently only 9... my edit finger is getting worn out...
 
@TylerH They have the same loop-problem
 
@TylerH I disinfected two and closed one - every little helps.
 
8:24 PM
teamwork makes the dream work
 
8:35 PM
@TylerH Did you flag the answer as NAA?
 
@Scratte Yes
 
@TylerH I guess I'll mention it in a comment then. There seems to be more to it, but I can't tell.
 
I'm sick of Stack Overflow. There's way too much garbage here with tons of upvotes and views.
I've set up a digest for me, and even this is too much.
 
@Dharman I see lots of nice things with almost no upvotes and < 50 views.
 
I will downvote everything I see now.
 
8:48 PM
It's very spooky looking at a post when a moderator turns an answer into a comment. It's like they go back in time :)
@Dharman Maybe you need to do something nice, like having fun..
 
@Dharman Isn't the Question asking for it?
 
@Scratte Good call
Ok, I am going to cool down and do something else.
 
9:08 PM
Something odd happened. I got a +2 rep for an edit on a post that was deleted 4 hours ago.
 
@Scratte when did you make the edit
 
@TylerH Before it was deleted :) But the edit seems to have been approved an hour ago. Of course I can't see the timeline, because the post is deleted.
And it's also not in my activity list under suggested edit.
 
9:29 PM
You probably can't see it there because you can't see deleted posts. However, deleted posts are not prevented from being edited unless they're locked. I think normally only moderators or the poster can edit a deleted post but if you have an edit suggestion hanging out when the post is deleted, it could still be approved and applied, earning you the +2. You may lose the +2 in a bit if the post stays deleted and all the checks have a chance to run at least once today.
I think normally when a post is deleted, edit suggestions are removed from the queue. I'm not sure about that, though. But I would suspect someone with 2k+ rep either saw the post and reviewed the edit directly, or was it the post author who did it?
 
@TylerH I can't say who did it. I'd suspect that the ones reviewing my edit have to be >10K. The post author hasn't been online since the deletion, so I don't think that's what happened.
 
@Scratte did you click the +2 notification in your notifications list to go to the page where the post is?
I know you can't see it, but if you share the question here, those of us with 10k can take a look
 
Yes, I did.. I got a page not found :) I can access it only through the review: stackoverflow.com/review/late-answers/25809308
 
Looks like both users reviewed it around the same time... maybe it didn't get kicked out of the Suggested Edits review queue after all.
 
@TylerH It's also listed on my reputation page, but not on my suggested edits. It's quite peculiar. So it was reviewed about 3 hours after it was deleted? By >10K users? Or can anyone see a deleted post in the suggested edits queue then?
 
9:37 PM
@Dharman Mod deleted that in the end
that's my story and I'm sticking to it
 
@TylerH Marked as helpful
 
 
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11:55 PM
@CertainPerformance Why is this an unnecessary duplicate? At the time you posted this, the duplicate-target had about 5 duplicates, which isn't in the range where we should be thinking duplicates are "unnecessary". Note: I added a few more duplicates after your request was posted, which indicates the dup-target is not being found. That implies that we want more duplicates, so the dup-target will be found.
 

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