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12:40 AM
I don't know a close reason about this stackoverflow.com/questions/65282239/…
Maybe it's spam?
 
@ppwater its just too broad (needs focus), no spam at all
 
Ah, thanks
 
@ppwater you can update yourself on what is considered spam here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260638/…
 
Okay. I'll read that.
 
1:09 AM
@desertnaut wouldn't But I can't find code on how exactly that was done. qualify primarily for "seeking recommendation?"
^ I'm no SME on ML at all
 
@Vickel it could; here we have a problem unfortunately usual in such low-quality posts, i.e. that the question is not internally consistent.
so actually multiple close reasons are applicable, including "seeking recommendations"
but the whole context of the post is actually not about programming, that's why I preferred this reason
 
@desertnaut for me, as I don't know a lot about ML, it is sometimes difficult to follow/support your CV-requests, as the line between "not about programming" and on-topic is very thin, at least for me :)
 
Understood, but the info hopefully offers some useful guidance
"General questions about machine learning should be posted to their specific communities. "
(general = non-programming ones)
and
"NOTE: If you want to use this tag for a question not directly concerning implementation, then consider posting on Computer Science, Cross Validated, Data Science, or Artificial Intelligence instead. Otherwise you're probably off-topic."
 
The NOTE explains it all, thanks
 
so, questions about theory/practice/methodology/definitions/terminology etc should (in theory...) be easy to spot and CV
@Vickel anytime
 
1:19 AM
I'll follow more of your CV request and will learn a lot, as usual :)
thanks
 
@Vickel ;)
 
2:04 AM
Is this spam?
 
@EJoshuaS-ReinstateMonica I don't think so, just a desperate student...
 
2:32 AM
Am I "HOME ALONE" ?
 
Hi :)
 
@cigien uff!
 
3:09 AM
How do we deal with questions that are a) poorly thought out and b) that the OP vandalised? :)
 
3:29 AM
@cigien @cigien Thanks, casted reopen vote
 
3:47 AM
@tink In this case the OP may have been incensed by, IMO, a superfluous edit. Not a reason to vandalize, but to at least restore the question's context I've rolled it back.
 
4:00 AM
@CodyGray For both videos and podcasts, I rarely watch/listen at 1x (2x+ is common). The only time I listen to podcasts at 1x speed is when I'm driving, and even then it depends on the podcast (and the drive).
 
@tony19 I've cast a vote as well, and it's reopened now. Thank you for reviewing.
 
4:34 AM
When a mod moves a discussion to chat, do they have an option to spare some comments, or do they need to move all the current ones under the post?
 
@slackwing Cheers ... I'm not sure what brought that on, but it made it pretty useless =}
 
@AnnZen As far as I'm aware, moderators have no restrictions on what they can do to the comments on a post. They can remove some if they want. They can also edit comments if they feel that is appropriate, though that is rarely done. Moving comments to chat doesn't affect this ability in any way.
 
@cigien Thanks!
 
np
 
4:56 AM
@AnnZen It's all comments moved to chat or none. Individual comments could then be, as separate actions, deleted/undeleted from the post.
 
Does the answer that the bot linked earlier here smell a bit like spam to anyone else? I've gone to the site and I do not immediately see what relevance it has.
 
5:15 AM
@Daedalus indeed, plagiarized with spam link
 
Ahh; I see now.
 
@Daedalus good catch!
 
@tripleee Thanks! I should have admittedly checked over the question a bit better, but I see the content it plagiarizes now.
 
5:58 AM
@Makyen this request has been actioned, the issues addressed, and reopened, and should be moved to the graveyard
(or other RO)
As has this one - it should also be moved
 
6:30 AM
Ugh. I wonder how all these screenshot posters would feel if we start posting answers with just a screenshot of their corrected code.
 
@RyanM Thanks.
 
6:46 AM
@RobbyCornelissen like this you mean? i.stack.imgur.com/WumnW.png
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@tripleee Can do better than that! Use your phone to take a picture of your screen. Extra points for low-res and weird angles.
 
reminds me of Kibo's 300Kb PDF .signature (probably shows just how old I am)
 
7:06 AM
@tripleee The question seems pretty clear to me. OP wants to write a loop to print the first 3 elements of a list.
 
7:27 AM
Folks, is this NAA?
 
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman I think so. "You can also import images directly in React" doesn't give any clue how to do it, it's basically what the OP is asking in the first place.
 
@RyanM Exactly and thanks for the comment.
 
 
8:27 AM
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Heads-up: this is no longer NAA, you may wish to retract flags (cc @tripleee @Yatin)
 
@RyanM Retracted. Thank you :)
 
8:39 AM
should flags on profanity in chat be accepted? There is a spam/offensive flag on a remark with the f-word which otherwise seems fine
 
I skipped it since I feel they should not... but yeah difference from user to user... I bet many feel they should.
 
@RyanM Retracted. Thank you :)
 
nah, they just disappear so quickly you mostly never see them
@tripleee RO please remove
 
9:11 AM
@tink actually this seems to be about Debian packaging conventions, though it's pretty obscure
 
9:32 AM
@mickmackusa needs to be closed before you can delv-pls, doesn't it?
 
@tripleee yes sorry, I corrected the requested.
 
10:07 AM
What is up with high reputation uses and deletion of their Answer if they don't get an accept on their post?!?..
 
10:22 AM
@Scratte I noticed that incident. I wonder if there is any course of action for us to recover answers which were deleted like this.
Still, it's ridiculous for veteran users to be butthurt over an OP not acting upon an answer.
I've had several good answers which were not accepted or interacted by the OP. I just had to give them time to collect votes.
 
@E_net42 This is the second time I've seen this. I had a thought that perhaps the Answer would have still been there if I hadn't mingled :(
The last time wasn't the same user though.
 
@Scratte We can blame you for many things but not, I feel, for other users' stupid fits of pride/pique. ;-P
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^^ that could be flagged as spam...
 
@AdrianMole Thanks :) But I did call them out on it. The excuse seems to be in the line of them just wanting the author to "interact" with them. I guess my comment asking if they want the author to post a Thanks on their post, was the turning point.
 
11:09 AM
@desertnaut question should be flagged as spam too. it's sole purpose is to allow the spam answer to exist.
 
11:22 AM
@Nick indeed
 
11:42 AM
 
11:53 AM
Hmm google have a few bugs both meet and youtube are down in Italy
Maybe google is infected by Covid also :)
 
So you're having trouble with Google as well. I can't open a doc.
 
here (Italy) nor youtube, nor meet nor gmail are working... all students are very happy... no more school :D
 
12:15 PM
@Hover does youtube work in US? or down also over there?
 
@PetterFriberg It's down here
 
@PetterFriberg maybe they are hacked and the hackers are now encrypting YouTube. The decryption key has to be paid for ...
 
@PetterFriberg most google services are down worldwide
 
aah ok thanks for info :)
 
Okay, we're in! Let's download everything first! ... an eternity later ..
 
12:18 PM
Google seems OK here in the UK, But there's this story.
 
Seems to be an account related thing, if you use a private session, you can use public services.
 
@AdrianMole Google itself is fine for me, gmail and youtube are both out though
 
So... no more gmail for today because you need an account to access gmail :D
 
@PetterFriberg: interestingly, is it down right now also appears to be "down"
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels I bet users literally DDoS the page :D
 
12:23 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Downdetector is fine
 
@Braiam yeep that works also here.. in fact I can access youtube in incognito
 
YT is back up, as is gmail (contacts are still down)
 
YT down here
What is going on?
 
Gmail still down for me, can't even IMAP my emails.
 
@Yatin rene is downloading everything...
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12:26 PM
@Braiam same
@PetterFriberg flower conspiracy!
 
I wonder if it has anything to do with their changes with respect to inactive accounts.
Someone went delete from accounts where userLastActivity <= today-2y and the server took an exception to that.
 
yeah, they removed all active accounts, keeping the inactive ones ....
 
aaai not even git can restore that... luckily they can use jquery...
 
@rene Huge if true
 
12:34 PM
I can't procrastinate on YouTube. What is this?
 
The end of 2020. Why are you asking?
 
They made YouTube better, it's working but there aren't any comments
 
I still find ridiculous people blaming 2020 for everything, when it's actually a teaser of 2021-2030.
 
2030 is a myth.
 
Nothing feels surprising now.
 
12:46 PM
I thought the world ended in 2012.
 
That was a miscalculation. They forgot to .reverse() the digits.
 
Aah YT back up.. can return to my usual activity, I had to work for a few minutes.. what a disasters
 
But how do you know the world didn't end? And you're just in a parallel universe? Or better, you're still in 2012 and all of what's happened since is just your brain processing stuff in the 15 minutes it takes for your brain to stop?
 
How can my brain stop? I don't recall it ever starting.
 
^^ I don't think that is spam (sd report)
 
12:55 PM
The Google one? No - that's just off-topic.
 
Yea... I left a comment..
 
... and I made it go blue! And then pink. :)
 
👍
 
1:08 PM
^ sd report
 
1:43 PM
What does luncheon meat mean?
 
It's a generic homogeneous protein mix bearing the color of meat, usually coming in cylindrical form
 
Also FAQ.
 
noun
noun: luncheon meat

finely minced cooked pork mixed with cereal, sold in a tin and typically eaten cold in slices.
 
@JohnDvorak I asked about the name once...
 
@RiggsFolly ... cold?
 
1:47 PM
Quite often in a sandwich or maybe even a salad
 
Also see Spam (food) :)
 
pro-tip: fried on a pan, it's actually edible.
 
Made to make meat go further, due to post war food shortage. Dont remember eating it much after the sixties or seeing it on the shelves much either
 
We have something similar. It's not grinded, but we use the bits and pieces left to make "sylte". We eat it cold on bread.
I expect moderators can nuke any accounts. From 1 reputation users to 500K reputation users. Do all of their posts get deleted in the process or is it just the user that disappears?
 
@Scratte There's no way that content would be lost. That simply wouldn't make sense. That would be throwing the baby out with the bath water.
 
1:57 PM
@Scratte depends. Only < 0 posts get deleted IIRC. There is some manual effort to keep votes around for high rep users, to prevent massive "user was removed" in everyones rep history.
 
Posts from deleted users are still shown, but with a greyed-out "user12345678" as the poster ID.
 
@RiggsFolly please no. Don't onebox stuff here.
 
@rene SORRY Forgot
 
@rene I've wondered about that. What if a user only voted at most once or twice for any user. They could still have voted 10K times, but no user would be severely impacted by their removal.
 
@RiggsFolly no poblem. Here is the FAQ item on it: socvr.org/faq#GEfM-no-oneboxes
@Scratte sure but before we go over all the frigging details here in this room I suggest you read meta.stackexchange.com/questions/126470 and meta.stackexchange.com/questions/125740 and meta.stackexchange.com/questions/131665 to name a few. Remember it is not only a program with simple rules. An actual human tweaks what happens for high rep/high active accounts
 
2:04 PM
@Scratte We can remove low rep accounts at will, yes. High rep accounts merely get suspended and a CM has to approve them. The same applies for self-deletion.
 
Does the error in this question look like it was caused by typos?
Or is the single ` an artifact created during formatting?
 
Looks more like a languich issue, to me. xD
 
I just came across this closed question. It was updated with a lot of meta commentary about the closure. I can't directly edit.
 
@JeanneDark We can just roll it back. The argument made is also ridiculous. We don't keep things open here just because they are off-topic anywhere else.
 
@JeanneDark Wow that is more than 1/2 of the post itself (ignoring the image)
 
2:10 PM
But considering that the edit was in October, we might as well just vote to delete instead.
No wait, it has answers, positively received too...
Meh.
 
@E_net42 But... the question looks useful...
@E_net42 👍
 
I'll just do the edit.
 
Too late :)
@JeanneDark The top comment seems to be nothing more than a rant too
 
In general, is it okay to bring up something like that here? Or would a custom flag made have sense? Suggesting an edit to roll back seems a bit too weak.
 
@JeanneDark A mod flag would have worked, because the issues were deeper than just needing a rollback. The question is way off-topic and ranting in an edit is not appropriate
 
2:22 PM
Thanks!
 
@rene Thanks. The middle one "Don't throw away all votes when a user is deleted" seems to indicate that votes are removed only when there's evidence to not keep them, even if it doesn't significantly impact any single user.
Ah.. What EXACTLY happens when I ask to delete my account? says that a user cannot just be nuked, if they're not really low reputation. I always thought all the accounts left on Stack were just lucky ones that didn't get a misfire when moderator accidentally hit the wrong button :)
@JeanneDark OH! I wondered about that myself. How awesome that someone took their time to post an Answer to that :)
Less awesome that I can't vote on it :(
 
If anyone is wondering. The highest voted Answer on that post works very well. The other one.. not so much.
 
3:26 PM
Is this just plain R/A? Or is there something more sinister involved?
 
@AdrianMole No idea what they are talking about tbh
 
@Yatin I'm assuming the worst-case scenario for decoding the "@#$& you" part.
 
Yea it is probably what we think it is.
 
4:07 PM
@tripleee Heh ... that's not how I read it; what I took from it is whether it's possible to only extract a single file from a .debduring patching. Either way, I don't think it's a programming question? :)
 
4:23 PM
Nice, stack overflow is running on .NET 5 now
 
Dodgy audit alert: If you come across this then don't even think about editing to remove the "Thanks!" ;-P
 
Thanks!
:p
 
@AdrianMole fixed
but yes, Raku is up there with Haskell in likelihood of posts in review queues being audits
 
@TylerH Spoilsport. ;-) I was waiting on some poor soul failing the audit and raising hell on Meta about it.
 
4:45 PM
how delightfully evil of you >:-D
 
@AdrianMole Maybe to avoid people adding "thanks" or "thanks in advance" or "help appreciated" and so on to their questions, SE can introduce some buttons they can click. When you write your question, you'd be able to add emoji to the question that express the gratitude you'd have for any answers.
^ See SD is collaborating by showing what the beautiful future could look like i.imgur.com/HDtRhzj.png
(by the way, incredible timing there)
 
5:02 PM
Don't we already have a button with an upward pointing triangle for the 'thanks'?
 
thanks for the upward pointing triangle that I clicked
 
5:32 PM
I could swear I had seen a reported Q like that one today.
Or maybe it was just yet another carpy "link please help me".
 
@E_net42 it is not an uncommon pattern ...
 
:51152862 I like waffles.
 
@E_net42 I did (imagine), so I deleted the "argument"...
on second thought
 
No arguments can be made against waffles.
 
@E_net42 that's a universally applicable axiom
 
5:37 PM
^ Already closed
 
hmm... an undesired side-effect of the custom "not in English" close reason is that, eventually, the post "does not appear to be about programming"...
which is not correct
 
Just VC as unclear.
 
Did somebody mention waffles? I love waff... (Oops, that was so 6-months-ago).
 
^^ this is The Way
 
6:28 PM
@desertnaut It's seeing readme.md as a domain name, not a file name
 
@Machavity not sure what you mean
bad wording maybe
 
Would this be considered spam? stackoverflow.com/q/65294524/12708583
 
link leads to main page of Github project, which naturally displays the README.md
@10Rep no, just off-topic
 
@desertnaut SD looks for spam trickery like "Visit microsoft.com tech support" (I threw a rickroll in for anyone not paying attention) but it sometimes confuses a file name for a domain name
 
@Machavity ok
 
6:52 PM
 
7:13 PM
In between meetings @gunr2171 ?
 
in a meeting, bored :)
 
oh boy :)
 
btw, the netherlands is on my short list of places to travel to once I'm allowed to get on a plane again
 
well, you're welcome but for now we're in lockdown till Jan, 19th
 
@gunr2171 o/
 
7:26 PM
oh yeah, this would happen at a minimum in the summer
yo tyler
 
Hey, it's gunr
 
hey, it's a guy in a hard hat
 
o/
 
\o
 
you know, mods who are also room owners should have blue and italicized names, I think
just a thought
 
7:29 PM
hum, can I remove RO status from a mod who is also a RO?.......
 
@gunr2171 Wait, isn't that the default touple of values?
 
@gunr2171 I think so, but it doesn't make an effective difference
 
huh, apparently I can
 
Viva la revolucion
 
7:33 PM
 
The king is dead. Long live the king.
 
Hey! I'm baaaack!
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your contribution to science was most appreciated
 
:)
 
What happens if a Room Owner deletes themself?
 
7:37 PM
@AdrianMole A singularity occurs
 
I'm not trying that one
 
@AdrianMole It's literally the last RO action you'll take without another RO adding you back
 
And why is "themselves" a word but "themself" isn't a word?
 
People can be overwhelmed and underwhelmed, but when has anyone ever been... whelmed?
if Kansas is pronounced "Kan-sass", why is Arkansas not pronounced "Are-Kan-sass"?
 
No! Why is Kansas not pronounced "Kin-saw"?
 
7:41 PM
wat
 
Matter of point-of-view, that's all.
 
either way, English is weird
 
Yup!
 
@AdrianMole they are both words as much as one cares to consider
 
7:43 PM
English is a living language, so rules and words can and do change over the years
 
English is weird but The English are weirder.
 
now I'll drink to that
 
English is a living language but has lived abroad for way too long now
 
It's coming home!
 
@rene it's been stuck in COVID quarantine...
 
7:44 PM
The French are weirder
 
@gunr2171 state law (not kidding either)
 
@Machavity omg that's awesome
 
Just imagine what Superman would have been like if Smallville were in Arkansas.
 
Zoe
7:59 PM
@AdrianMole Don't tell @Nick
Oh, whoops :p
 
hehe
 
I think we should just refer to them as @Nicks :)
 
@Zoe Whoopsies
@Machavity And that's why I prefer spanish.
It has like a kilometer of rules, but at least we know how to pronounce something just by reading it.
 
@TylerH I've not found an easy way to determine if the user is an actual room owner when they are also a moderator. The user record that's delivered by the system and kept in the page indicates that all moderators are owners. The only way I've really seen to differentiate is to get the list of room owners from the info page.
 
@DavidW Can the first bit just be edited out? The rest may be an answer?
 
8:06 PM
@DavidW It could be about face id... I understand it.
 
@Makyen Obviously, the access page would also work.
 
It's possible I've completely misunderstood it (Google translate seems to really struggle)
 
The "hohohohoho" didn't look promising, though.
 
No, but it could possibly just be "jovial good humour". It's a bit odd because the rest of the answer looked like it might have been helpful
 
Funny one, for sure.
 
8:17 PM
 
8:33 PM
@AdrianMole wow I'm telling Santa you should get moved to the naughty list...
 
Is this R/A?
 
@Makyen yeah, once they are a moderator, being assigned as a room owner (or given explicit read/write access) is purely a ceremonial thing, since moderators get full access via their mod status
but rooms tend to like ceremonial indicators because they have their own hierarchies, like us or charcoal for example
so it could be a little useful/nice to have
@AdrianMole I'm not sure... it's certainly not a good answer or an answer that addresses the question...
though technically I think it does fit the 'attempt at an answer' description
 
@TylerH I'd say it's NAA for sure but verging on R/A.
 
"try restarting" is an answer, even if it's to a different question
 
@AdrianMole because it's a composite word and both parts must agree in number.
 
8:42 PM
@TylerH But, as Shog9 would say, an orange isn't an answer to a question asking for an apple. Or, as someone else said, you wouldn't give a snake if someone asked for a fish.
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@AdrianMole I mean I'm not gonna complain if you flag it as NAA :-) I'm just basing off of my own past declined flags...
 
8:53 PM
@TylerH Which is a shame that moderators do that.
They are leaving content on the site, that should not be on the site.
 
So I was going to vote to delete this page which is an Unclear, Unattempted, Requirements dump (arguably a Dupe -- I agree with Vega's dupe), when I found that there are heaps of pages linking to it! stackoverflow.com/q/35473174/2943403 This is a really bad chain for researchers.
So I started down the list and the first page that was used as a dupe is definitely not right. It is a javascript question closed by this php question. Much to be done, me thinks. If only I didn't need to go to work today.
 
@Braiam yes I agree
 
@Makyen , could you please cull this request of mine? The OP has added detail to the question and I flagged re-open-pls ...
 
@Machavity this group I work with put 7 in the top 50 this year. That's why I can't find no satisfaction, drinking word class is my normal.
 
9:48 PM
It's the last 2 working days for me this year, and probably the two most difficult ones. I am so tired, I don't feel like doing Stack Overflow today.
Thankfully, the traffic on SO has decreased significantly in recent days
 
10:04 PM
@Dharman on the upside, holiday vacation is 48 hours away.
@Dharman hang in there, you can make it.
 
10:46 PM
@TylerH Sorry. I'm a bit slow. Are you saying I put Adrian on the wrong list?
 
@dbc I CV'd for Server Fault
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