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2:56 AM
Withdraw close-vote request please for Add a JComponent via Child to Parent‭ as he is improving the question (some)
 
@Nkosi I guess you got there first. Can you remove my cv-pls request? Thanks.
 
3:21 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Done
 
 
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4:23 AM
@tink also duplicate, I discovered after spending my close vote, any other hammers around?
 
heh I'll have a look-see @tripleee
Sorry, just got home, am all over the place
 
the ping was more of a side effect of linking back to your message, I'm hoping somebody else in the room could pick up where we left it
 
Is this too broad? He should be able to think of a "rolling average" himself? stackoverflow.com/questions/56573382/…
 
5:02 AM
Any modicum of research would have brought up en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoothing -- voting to close as too broad (no effort). — tripleee 13 secs ago
 
heh
 
@StephenKennedy I was Zzzz after a swim, so I went to bed :-)
\o Morning
 
5:24 AM
3366 Errors.... not too bad
 
6:10 AM
@EJoshuaS what was the rationale for that? it was not yet edited into the question
@EJoshuaS roomba in 10 days
 
@tripleee I requested that the OP edit it into the question an hour ago, within a minute or two of him posting the comment. No reason to leave it up.
@tripleee Hmmmm... should I withdraw the request and let it Roomba? It's actually a fairly terrible question though...
 
@EJoshuaS I already spent my del vote but others might not want to, they are a limited resource after all (though personally I rarely run out)
 
6:29 AM
@EJoshuaS I didn't see the comment, but if there is something that should have been moved into the question, but just hasn't yet, then it's inappropriate to be trying to delete it as NLN.
 
7:17 AM
@tripleee Regarding this, if anyone needs del votes, ping me - I don't do much deleting
 
@Adriaan @halfer there's one for you
 
@tripleee click, ta!
 
7:44 AM
@StephenKennedy I made that edit now on the IDEs question :-)
 
8:18 AM
Mornin' o/
 
\o
 
I've filled up the close votes review queue for , there are many off-topic questions (and opinion based). Feel free to check it out
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Please star that message ^ if possible to get some attention
 
8:40 AM
Am I crazy or does the question fall under no mcve? stackoverflow.com/questions/56572701/…
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse probably
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse II mean I'd just say it was off-topic > general computing unless I'm missing something?
That or voted as better on unix SE
 
I haven't voted anything yet, wanted to make sure that it's not just me not understanding
@Adriaan the edit is very welcome for that text dump <3
 
8:59 AM
 
Zoe
9:11 AM
@Adriaan the code is with pre tags
My guess is that it doesn't check for pre tags without <code>?
Dunno if high-rep users are somehow excluded from the checks, but I'll see if I can repro it
 
@Zoe use an anonymous, unregistered account otherwise to try and repro
 
Zoe
@Adriaan I need a registered one to be able to post questions
Well, write up one.
 
 
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10:25 AM
it kinda says exactly what it needs, but .. I guess maybe no MVCE or evidence of attempted research?
 
Zoe
yeah
 
@Shree teward/Lunar Eclipse
 
also.. am I crazy for thinking this should be DV'd and closed? Or dupe as a parse syntax error canonical question?
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
10:41 AM
@treyBake In essence it's Can you use a vector of keys to access multiple array items at once?. If there's a dupe for that I'll gladly throw in a vote. Downvotes are at your discretion of course.
 
@ErikA yeah I suppose.. closest I came was this but not 100% enough to be a dupe IMO...
 
@treyBake This sounds like you're saying something specific should be downvoted. Please stay away from implying that for specific posts.
 
@Makyen ah I see, I mean I guess I am? Just felt weird to see it upvoted in my eyes, but will refrain from adding the DV keywords in here :)
 
@treyBake Thanks for keeping that in mind.
 
 
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11:49 AM
@SurajRao a suggested edit translating the post has been approved by two other users (presumably all from the same language area). I pinged the editor, should I leave a comment for the two approvers as well?
 
@Adriaan I would say yes, with a link to the meta canonical: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/297673/…
 
even with translation the question lacks MCVE.. No code
 
Zoe
How do I retract an undelete vote? No idea how, but I managed to cast one by accident xd
 
@Zoe I think you can't. They don't even expire IIRC
 
Zoe
oof xd
 
12:03 PM
@Adriaan "Votes to delete or undelete never expire." - from How does deleting work? ..., didn't see anything about retracting votes
@Zoe From Can't retract my delete vote, yes you can't retract them, but if you really wanted to you could ask a mod to delete and undelete, good luck with that though :P
 
Zoe
oh well
 
^ Napster still exists?
 
Zoe
@NickA Yeah... All kinds of weird things happen when you open Pandora('s box)
 
I've never even heard of Pandora
 
@Zoe Don't Spotify his perspective, now
 
Zoe
12:13 PM
@NickA It's US-only, so it's not really a surprise you haven't.
@Machavity Why? Spotify has Amazong music
 
@Zoe True. it's the Apple of my eye
 
12:39 PM
@HermanTheGermanHesse I went Server Fault. That's an admin question
 
@Machavity Ok, thanks
 
Zoe
1:09 PM
@treyBake If it's a cross-site duplicate, close it, but don't migrate (if migrating to the relevant site is an option)
 
so just as too broad (in this case)?
 
Zoe
I went with no MCVE because, well, there isn't one. But if it's a SF question and it's off-topic for that reason here, go with that close reasons. TB works too though
 
^^ tis a good point, makes sense to.. considering it's only a sentence on the issue without any MVCE haha
 
pointing to a solution on another site is always helpful but there is no useful way to handle a migration to the destination site, it would merely create more drugdery when it has to be closed again on the other site; just vote to close
 
ah ok, so just comment a possible useful link and close as most valid reason? :)
 
1:34 PM
@Zoe really, Pandora is US only?
I'm surprised it's managed to survive that long in only one country, it's horrible compared to literally anything else
 
Zoe
@TylerH that's what the website says at least
 
@Zoe Yeah, it's a little silly that they implemented all the different vote types completely different ways
You should be able to cast and retract all votes and flags
 
Zoe
@TylerH yeah. Mistakes and accidents, as well as changes, do happen. An inability to retract some votes and flags seems counter-intuitive
 
 
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5:27 PM
<waffle>
 
Mod flagged
 
Morning all ... /o
 
5:56 PM
o\
 
/o
 
/o\
 
er
why is it not listening
!! /amiprivileged
 
!!/lick
 
anyway, SD's latest post is spam
 
@Adriaan licks ice cream cone
 
ah that explains it
@Zoe Did you ban Tyler again?!
 
6:22 PM
@Makyen Think that SD maintenence is why?
 
@StephenKennedy What might not be clear is that I rebooted the instance from CHQ.
 
@StephenKennedy those pesky kids and their dog!
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Zoe
@StephenKennedy Yes, with my 1337 b4ckd00r 4cc3ss into skyn-... 3rr, I m34n, Sm0k3y.
 
Starred a message by Tyler H What am I doing?! :D
 
@Machavity Maybe, but there's a known issue where SD will stop listening for chat messages in some rooms. The cause, IIRC, is communication issues with SE, which don't automatically get reset. The solution is to !!/reboot from a different room.
 
6:25 PM
oops, blunder from me there as I thought Lunar Eclipse belonged to Zoe and I'm told it doesn't. I'll get my coat.
 
@StephenKennedy just your coat? Don't forget to clear out your desk
 
@Adriaan sniff righto
 
Zoe
@Adriaan Clear out? He should keep the desk.
@StephenKennedy You'll figure out the transport/disassembly part on your own. ;)
 
@Zoe You can help, as this all your fault, Lunar Eclipse Watcher
 
Zoe
I could, yes.
 
6:30 PM
le sigh
 
@StephenKennedy the broom cupboard might have a free shelf, if you're interested
 
just a question, since I am new here! which part of the tour expands more on how to correct raise a request in socvr.org/faq
 
@Adriaan Oh not the broom cupboard again! I was just getting used to the free champagne in the ROs lounge :(
 
Do you mean broom closet? I loved the broom closet ending.
 
@DeveshKumarSingh Quite frankly, most of it. Do you have any specific questions?
 
6:36 PM
I mean i will add the language tag and the cv-pls tag, and then what is wrong with the question
is that enough
 
The Common Questions section is perhaps what you're looking for
@DeveshKumarSingh Yes it is enough. However, it's a lot easier to use Makyen's user script. Do you have TamperMonkey or similar installed?
 
sure let me look, and I assume I can specify cv requests for any tag, and it's up to the group to honor it
@StephenKennedy you mean greasemonkey?
yes I have it
 
@DeveshKumarSingh Any tag, but don't flood us with requests, and it's up to the room to act on it or not as each member sees fit it
@DeveshKumarSingh Yes, but I believe there may be issues with GreaseMonkey. @Makyen will help if he is around.
 
okay I installed TamperMonkey, is there a link to the userscript or I will wait for Makyen
 
The alpha version of the Request Generator is here. Note that it does not work with Greasemonkey 4. The released version of the Request Generator does work with Greasemonkey 4.
You will probably also want to install the Unclosed Request Review Script (GitHub) (install)
 
6:43 PM
Ah there you go. You have a choice between stable/GreaseMonkey and newer with more features but still in alpha and doesn't work with GM :) Personally I use the alpha version but its entirely up to you which you choose.
 
I installed TamperMonkey so I assume both userscripts will be good, now i just need to learn how to use TamperMonkey
 
@DeveshKumarSingh nah, you don't. You press "install" on the script, and let it do its thing in the background.
If you keep it around long enough, it might even write Shakespeare for you
 
@Adriaan let it do it's thing, sorry i didn't follow, I have rarely used userscripts until now
 
@DeveshKumarSingh Me neither. But that's literally all you do. Install TM, then install the user script through the "install" button which will show a TM page to install it, and then you're done. Every now and then stuff requires updating, and then you just press OK.
When you're not writing your own userscripts, it's that simple
 
I do see a search and 4 options (cv, del, reopen and undel) which I assume come from the userscript,
although how is the userscript helpful? Does it helps to find all messages with a particular tag?
 
6:52 PM
@DeveshKumarSingh That's the Unclosed Request Review Script. Those buttons will each open a page to search for the stated type of requests. It also adds post status info to right of the chat messages containing links to posts. There aren't any visible in the chat display at the moment, so it's not that noticeable. You can scroll the chat screen back in time a bit and see some added status.
 
@Makyen got it, and how do I use the Request Generator userscript
 
@DeveshKumarSingh Do you have a Userscript plugin installed?
 
yes, I installed tampermonkey as Stephen suggested
 
@DeveshKumarSingh The request generator adds a menu option to questions that's in the same place as the "edit", "close", "flag", etc. buttons. Most commonly that will be a "cv-pls" button, but has other displayed text depending on the state of the post. The alpha version adds that button and popup to answers and some suggested edit reviews.
It also adds a checkbox at the bottom of the question close dialog which will send a cv-pls just after you vote to close, if you check the box.
 
6:56 PM
aah got it, just below the question
a request type and a request reason box is what I see currently
 
@DeveshKumarSingh The link I provided above for the Request Generator (not the link for the alpha version) goes to some instructions.
 
@Makyen thank you I will go through them
 
@DeveshKumarSingh Sounds good. Feel free to ask any question you have.
 
I was suggested to go here from the Python room to raise more generic requests
I will explore the FAQ and tour more to understand how to send cv-pls requests better
 
Thank you for doing so.
 
What is different between offensive and toxic?
 
@Compass Offensive might hurt your feelings. Toxic will kill you.
 
puts on biohazard bread mask
 
@StephenKennedy Toxic chat comment detected! kills @StephenKennedy
 
@Compass Offensive = Trolling. Toxic = insulting.
At least those are my definitions
 
7:57 PM
\o night
 
8:14 PM
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M-M
8:41 PM
Should this answer get flagged: stackoverflow.com/questions/56518158/…
user posted this answer, OP posted some comments and then instead of editing this answer, they posted another one, with similar mats and minor tweaks which got accepted.
 
@M-M well, in isolation it is an answer. I'm not sure a mod would nuke it unless you argue well enough it is not useful to keep.
@M-M if you want to delete it with 3 20k-ers at best you find users that can judge the answer. I think you're looking for members of the Python room in that case.
 
@Machavity I know basically nothing about iOS, but to me that doesn't even look like a debugging question in the first place. Yes, there's an image, and no, there's no code, but if you removed the image it would still look like a valid how-to question to me. (In fact, I'm not even sure the image adds anything, but like I said, I don't know iOS.)
 
M-M
@rene that's the best bet. thanks
 
yw
@IlmariKaronen I agree with that assessment, FWIW
 
9:07 PM
 
9:22 PM
Anyway, I have some more low-quality dupes of deleted questions, if anybody wants to take a look at them.
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