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\o mornin'
 
 
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8:49 AM
@sideshowbarker maybe also requeston offsite resources
since he says:
"[...] or point me in the direction of a later library that can read request binary blob data."
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse Yeah, I think either Too Broad or Offsite Resource would be appropriate
 
9:05 AM
+1
The question brought by the FireAlarm seems TP imho
 
9:23 AM
Can I request a flag for duplicate here?
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse Request of CV for duplicate is allow in this room. But what do you mean by flag ?
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse if it is on a recently active question, you can
 
By flag I mean that I think the appropriate course of action for this question is to flag for being a duplicate
@Shree
@Shree I sometimes don't express myself too accurately, sry ^^
 
9:38 AM
@HermanTheGermanHesse It's ok.
 
10:22 AM
What is "I was wandering which codeing might be [...]" supposed to even mean?
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse that are users that like to exercise while writing software ...
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I wandered lonely as a cloud coder
 
I expect clouds do some wondering too
 
@rene exercise what? The patience of others?
 
10:32 AM
@HermanTheGermanHesse clouds are like ghosts that need to be exorcised
 
Please don't confuse Herman. He's from Barcelona.
@HermanTheGermanHesse wandering = walking around, which is exercise
 
Today can be homophone day!
wondering = thinking, considering
 
@StephenKennedy not technically true, me thinks since conception doesn't dictate that
How could I have missed that...
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse So you're not from Barcelona?
 
Nah
Further south
@StephenKennedy what would make you think that I'm from Barcelona? :D
 
10:37 AM
@HermanTheGermanHesse Lol. I take it you're not familiar with the comedy show "Fawlty Towers"?
 
@StephenKennedy no (o.o') is it considered a faux pa around here?
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse Very much so. I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to hand in your SOCVR membership card and leave the premises :(
 
@StephenKennedy Oh my! I'd argue that in the spirit of being welcoming a link to the show should be provided, or at least a description of it
^^
 
@HermanTheGermanHesse Fair point. Here's the Barcelona part
 
Oh, I understand now why it's a faux pa
@StephenKennedy it seems I something to do this weekend
 
11:18 AM
 
@Makyen Looks like Nick misspoke: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/269392/…
 
@gparyani Thanks. That's a significant difference in how it works.
 
 
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1:33 PM
@StephenKennedy Nice! I was just thinking, before you said that, that THERE IS TOO MUCH BUTTER. ON. THOSE. TRAYS.
No senor, is not "on, those, trays". No no, it is "unos, dos, tres".
 
 
3:19 PM
@FireAlarm Now deleted
 
@halfer Unrecognized command now deleted; did you mean delete ...?
 
:-p
Now I am talking to machines
This is normal for me though.
When an supermarket checkout machine says "Thank you shopping at the Co-op", I say "You are most welcome", even if it is absurd that a computer is moved to thank me for anything.
 
3:45 PM
@tripleee things can be on-topic on multiple sites at once. Too broad seems like a valid reason though.
 
4:21 PM
@Shree That doesn't read as a debugging question to me. It reads as a "how to" question. Thus, "no MCVE" isn't appropriate. OTOH, I could certainly see it being closed as "unclear" or "too broad".
 
@Makyen humm. Thanks. Noted .
 
4:51 PM
Question for the room: if a question looks OK, even though I do not know the technology, and then answer(s) are given that indicate a misunderstanding, and the OP tries several rounds of unsuccessful clarification, does that qualify for a "no MCVE"?
 
@halfer "no MCVE" only applies to debugging questions. So, if it is a debugging question, and there was still misunderstanding, it might be be "no MCVE", as the close-reason also requires "the desired behavior" and "a specific problem or error" in addition to the code needed to duplicate the problem be in the Q. If it's not really clear that one of those required elements are missing, I almost always skip close-voting such debugging questions when they are not a technology I'm familiar with.
 
5:14 PM
@Makyen The OP already provided a [mcve], please delete my request
 
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
 
@Makyen Fair enough, thanks. I could have asked the above with "Unclear", I guess. The thrust of my question here is whether a CV is appropriate based on answerers struggling to understand or excessive rounds of comments that are going nowhere, even if the question looks OK at first glance.
I agree that it is good to be cautious around tags I don't know though - I also skip if I am not sure.
 
@halfer That's going to be a personal choice that, at least for me, will largely depend on the specifics. Even in technologies I'm quite familiar with, I've seen questions where I'd both agree that it was unclear and where I feel it's clear, but that people are just misreading the question. In some, it's been because people who are not familiar with the technology try to answer based on assumptions that don't apply to the specific niche technology.
 
5:38 PM
@Makyen Great, thanks - happy with that. I was wondering if it was not in the spirit of SO CVR, so it is good to know it is OK. It doesn't happen nearly as often as things that are obviously Unclear or No MCVE, at least in the tags I am looking at.
 
@halfer Personally, I'd be very reluctant to post a cv-pls for a question which I'm uncertain about. Instead of posting a cv-pls, I'd be much more likely to ask in here, or in a technology specific chat room, if other people think it's unclear.
 
6:16 PM
Happy campers! ^
 
@halfer I wouldn't edit that out in the future. He was trying to be rude there. Edit out the incidentals like "How do I fix this s***?"
 
@Machavity Fair enough. I tend to edit on the basis that it might get closed but not zapped, but I can refrain on outright abusive posts if that is helpful.
 
@halfer The catch there is a mod might come in and see red flags on your cleaner version and dispute them. If they're attacking other people (or SO in general) it needs to be red-flagged out
It's all good this time. 20k votes put an end to it
 
@Machavity Gotcha, thanks - will leave obvious abuse in future :-)
 
Anyways, enough ranting. Apparently a whole 250 people had their info exposed by SO's little hacker escapade. Ruins that weird attempt to start a class action lawsuit
 
6:32 PM
Heh, rant away - this can be a free therapy room for SO's most committed janitors!
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Zoe
7:46 PM
Is there a way to add IDs to an SO post?
 
what kind of IDs?
 
Zoe
url/#id ID
<div id="..."></div> is removed from the post, <h1 id="...">...</h1> removes the formatting and keeps the text
Some playing around in the sandbox actually shows it removes formatting entirely and doesn't even leave a standard <p>. So I guess that's not an option :]
 
/o
 
Zoe
8:05 PM
Are there any standardized approaches to answer table of contents then?
 
8:35 PM
Fire Alarm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
@Makyen Since Nick didn't @reply to you, here's his response.
 
@tink \o
@Zoe Do you mean like https://stackoverflow.com/q/56202090?
There is one for answers too.
 
Zoe
@halfer yeah, but nothing for internal answer navigation
But yeah, that
So I.e. https://stackoverflow.com/q/56202090#some-internal-id-in-the-thread
 
@Zoe Do you mean like https://stackoverflow.com/a/56202686? That works.
 
Zoe
no, not that rough navigation
 
:)
 
Zoe
9:17 PM
I should probably explicitly mention "custom ones" ^^"
 
Ah, I see what you mean. I would expect that to be stripped by the HTML parser, but I've not tried it. If it was not stripped then internal anchors could be stopped working by duplicate anchors.
 
Zoe
it is stripped
which means there's effectively no way to make a table of contents, and my through that makes it impossible to skip answers
 
@Zoe If you're asking if there is any way to establish a target that can be used as a fragment identifier, so you can have a URL that will jump to a point inside an SE post, then the answer is that I know of no way to do so. Everything I've tried gets stripped from the HTML.
 
Zoe
yeah, that's what I found out too
 
@Zoe You can, however, target each separate answer, or comments section, (targeting an individual comment results in page reload). You can also target a variety of other things on the page, but nothing within the actual post text.
 
Zoe
9:36 PM
Still doesn't do much for internal navigation
They could probably avoid duplication by adding header IDs directly. <post id>-<header content with spaces replaced by dashes> could cover that.
 
Yes, that would work. It would be nice to have the capability. There have certainly been times when I would have liked to be able to link within an answer.
 
Zoe
The main reason I'm asking is because I posted a relatively big answer on meta, and without an ability to create shortcuts like that, I can't create a short list with the content, or a TL;DR: link at the end that also allows users to skip rather than scroll
 
9:56 PM
@Zoe Yep. That's one of the main reasons I've wanted to have them. The other is to be able to directly link to a section when mentioning it elsewhere.
 
Zoe
would there happen to be a feature request on the topic?
 
Probably, but I don't specifically recall seeing one.
 
 
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11:09 PM
Now the above is posting inappropriate tags such as . Moderators have been notified
 
11:52 PM
Just wrote a blog article about Stack Overflow post editing. Comments welcome and appreciated, if anyone has a few minutes. blog.jondh.me.uk/2019/05/…
 

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