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12:13 AM
 
12:27 AM
@Makyen Would have been improved if that were a LMGTFY link instead :) But then I suppose you'd have to send it to the Sanitarium as a RO...
 
 
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3:27 AM
@KenWhite Although it's a "problem statement question" and has little visible effort, I don't think "too broad" is an appropriate close reason.
 
@user202729 It's a homework dump that shows no effort to solve the problem. A question saying "Here's my homework. Do the work for me please* is too broad to be answered. It doesn't meet the minimum requirements of a h/w question as they are stated in the help center. That seems like a pretty clear too broad post. What would you suggest instead?"
 
 
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5:03 AM
@KenWhite Agree... Too Broad
 
@KenWhite (related: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/329741/…) How would you suggest the question should be asked instead? Obviously it isn't good if some bot copy-paste every CP question on some site to this site, but I'd assume that OP has good intention.
 
@user202729 I can't assume anything that isn't in the question. The poster dumped their assignment. It's a Please do my homework post. The [help/on-topic] clearly says that questions asking for homework help have to show the effort made and specific problem they're having. The post shows neither of those; it simply asks that we do it for them. What specific question do you see there other than that?
Let me ask that a little differently. How much of that question is a copy/paste of the assignment, and how much is text added by that poster? I can tell you - there are multiple paragraphs of copy/paste, and a single line, single sentence of poster content that isn't.
 
 
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7:42 AM
@KenWhite Let's say that, I agree that the OP had shown too little effort and that's not good. But still, how would you suggest the OP to improve the question? The meta post linked above suggests that CP questions can be asked here.
Obviously saying "I've been thinking for 2 hours but still can't think of a working algorithm" won't work.
 
 
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@Makyen I am planning to write the issue about Magic Editor and images today if I can. However, it will be a little bit difficult since some relatives of mine will visit me for 2 weeks.
 
@double-beep OK. I hope you enjoy their visit.
 
always waiting for them to come :P
 
@StephenKennedy why not to SOCVR RO. you own my vote :)
@also good luck to @TylerH
don't ping rule applied. sorry :D
 
9:04 AM
@war
 
@double-beep battle :D
 
Zoe
9:35 AM
@rene in other news, you might be interested to know that the Sea North has dried up.
 
10:04 AM
^ needs closing for "hey" and "wanna" in the title ;-)
 
Zoe
lol
 
10:26 AM
@Zoe so you can now walk across the sea?
 
Zoe
Yep. It's almost like walking on water :p
 
:D
 
Zoe
Waaait a minute! Did you drag your roots in there to drain it up?!
 
10:51 AM
@Zoe I've added the code into the Q
 
@halfer isn't it licensed?
 
Zoe
Yeah, that's the problem
I got a meta post on it somewhere
somewhere being the clue, I'll need some time to dig it up
 
@Zoe ^ ?
 
Zoe
10:55 AM
Mine's different
 
@double-beep Not sure I understand - licensed?
 
Zoe
I cannot find anything on licensing on-site though
 
Ah, reading the meta - no, I don't subscribe to that approach.
It's obviously preferable to accept the kindness of a code transfer - the Q author can object (on licensing grounds) if they wish. I doubt anyone will, in the whole history of Stack Overflow...
To be sure, there's no obligation on us to do the edit, and a close vote is acceptable. But if we can fix it, then that is a better outcome for the Q author.
 
Thanks
\o Off to chomp some Easter eggs
 
@halfer Easter responsibly, make sure to have a designated finder.
 
Wait, this room has two graveyard rooms now?
Why two graveyards? (I don't see anything about it in the FAQ.)
 
Hi, Is there a moderator here who can open a Chat Room?
 
@user2357112 the request graveyard is where expired cv-pls requests go, the other one is probably generic trash
since that request wasn't fulfilled but retracted, it makes sense for it to go in a separate bin
 
I'd like chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/170911 to be opened. Could it also be opened permanently?
 
11:15 AM
@Royi just flag a message for a mod attention and ask them to unfreeze the room. No permanent feature exist.
 
@Royi I'm not a moderator but why should it be? It's a chatroom opened automatically on the comment section of a question. It was designed to be short-lived by definition. If you want to add something, leave another comment. If you want to discuss something else, start a dedicated chatroom.
Is there anything we can/should do about this wreck? It's a problem that's solved by loosening some strict permissions preventing arbitrary code execution. The problem is that pretty much all answers say the same thing, the top few definitely do. There's also a sudo gedit idea thrown in there which is a bad idea in and of itself.
Do you think there's any chance that if I flag the duplicate answers they'll be removed? I'm a bit skeptical...
 
@AndrasDeak, The comment I need to leave needs the context of the chat room. Hence it is needed to unfroze it. Just like @JonClements did before.
 
@Royi the content doesn't disappear on freezing the room
 
I know. I just want to continue the chat.
 
@Royi almost a year later? Well, as said before: you can flag for reopening (just flag one of your own posts with a custom reason, or the answer that room was generated from), but opening a new room is just a lot easier IMO
 
11:24 AM
@AndrasDeak flagging those answers relies on the mod being a PHP expert or hater. If anything, try the PHP room and MSO to get something done.
 
PHP?
Oh, syntactically maybe, I don't know PHP. But doing the same thing in PHP is still duplicate, right?
"change <line1> to <line2>" with the same line contents appears in multiple answers, which is what's bugging me
 
I saw PHP mentioned in the top answer and gave up ...
 
:P
thanks anyway
 
11:51 AM
@rene Does it hurt when you PHP? {giggle}
 
Zoe
@halfer rene probably prefers NH4 anyway
 
@Shree \o Thanks. Your pings are always welcome
 
 
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1:04 PM
I have a question
One user has made 3 basically identical questions in the last 2 days
I've flagged the 2 latter ones as duplicates of the 1st one
is that appropriate?
 
Yes
 
@Adriaan thanks
 
1:24 PM
Is there a local newspaper in your town @Zoe?
 
Zoe
wow xd
Sorry, finger offset.
@StephenKennedy there is, yeah
 
@Zoe I hope you called them about the draining of the Sea North - that would be front page news in most local rags :)
 
Zoe
well, not directly in my town
lmao
It's local to three municipalities
 
mmm maybe page 2 then
 
Zoe
nah, it's page 0 material.
You know, the one that always goes missing so the newspaper starts at index 1 rather than 0
 
1:45 PM
Being editor of your local paper must be the easiest job in the world. They can reuse the same headline over and over: "Local person slips on ice"
 
Zoe
No, there aren't articles like that
They're struggling staying alive though (or so I've been told).
 
3:23 PM
 
 
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7:46 PM
I've just been outside. It was rather nice!
 
8:11 PM
@M-M How is this question a request for an off-site resource? It's asking for the information, not a pointer to the information. It might be too broad (I don't have the domain knowledge to really evaluate it being too broad), but it's not asking for us to find or recommend a resource.
 
Zoe
@Makyen Looks like a question of what rather than "where do I find info about <what>".
Assuming it isn't a duplicate, I don't think it qualifies as too broad (see stackoverflow.com/q/10430582/6296561)
Either way, it ain't a resource request
 
8:26 PM
@Zoe Yeah, the part that might get too broad is "describe each of these classes and the differences between them". I'd expect that it should probably fit in our format, but I don't really know.
 
Zoe
@Makyen eh, it's kinda implied anyway
 
M-M
@Makyen maybe I am too hard on this, but it's asking about material that can be found on tutorials.
 
@M-M Asking about something that can be found in a tutorial isn't quite the same as asking for a tutorial though, is it?
 
@M-M While I can understand that type of question being frustrating to see, that a question is basic and the information can be found elsewhere doesn't make it off-topic on SO. The resource request off-topic reason is for when someone is asking for a pointer to something, or for us to make recommendations.
 
Zoe
8:49 PM
@BaummitAugen technically, anything can be found in tutorials.
There's always gonna be tutorials, but that alone doesn't make the post a request for off-site resources
 
9:14 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis How did you happen to come across 2 closeable questions by the same OP in such a short time?
Specifically, even if we're acting with the best of intentions we have to ensure that we don't appear to the outside world to be targeting a user FAQ #20
 
9:51 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis As @StephenKennedy has already mentioned, having two requests like that about questions by the same OP makes it appear that you may be targeting the user. Usually, when requesting about two questions by the same user happens by mistake, the questions have similar tags and the requestor is just going through tags they watch. These two questions don't share any tags, so that seems unlikely.
You've mentioned the OP is the same, so clearly you are aware of that fact. Did you encounter these in some way other than by going to the user's profile and looking for other problematic questions? While we don't have any say in if you vote to close on questions that way, please don't post multiple requests about questions by the same user here. As has already been mentioned, FAQ #20 covers our restriction on user targeting.
 
@Makyen even if the two questions doesn't share the same tags they are practically a duplicate of each other at the word by word level and changing only the framework requested. The FAQ explains that we could make exceptions where the user has posted a duplicate of their own off-topic question I am asking because I could do the same error then.
 
10:14 PM
@Steve I agree, the questions are very similar. What was envisioned for that exception was one question being closed as a duplicate of the other and the other was also off-topic. This type/level of potential user targeting is largely in what actions were taken to find the questions. @Sotirios was initially asked to explain and could still do so. [Obviously, there's more aggressive types/ways of targeting a user, where the actions, even if they were taken separately, would be inappropriate.]
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10:30 PM
@Makyen Yeah, no, by that definition, I was definitely targeting them. Won't happen again.
 
@SotiriosDelimanolis np. Thanks for keeping it in mind.
 
11:04 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis Thanks for that, and for your honesty. Much appreciated.
(the above wasn't meant to sound condescending; apologies if it did)
 

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