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1:44 AM
kills me to see a trivial code-dump answer getting multiple up-votes. The system is broken
 
 
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3:12 AM
@Queen Done it babe!
 
4:03 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Yep - too bad it wasn't closed before it was cucumbered
 
5:14 AM
@Adriaan Are you still having problems with the request generator? If so, I'm going to need more information: e.g. OS/Browser/userscript manager/Question to start.
 
6:10 AM
@JimGarrison oh looks like a dupe stackoverflow.com/questions/52055589/… not sure if OP is using multiple accounts
 
6:22 AM
 
7:02 AM
@Makyen I had the problem only on the message I had just posted there. Not sure if it was a problem with the question. Anyhow, it seems to be working normally again
 
@Adriaan Just blame your elephant toes for smashing the keyboard ...
 
@rene RO-hohoos, I'm being picked on by the flower :(
 
kicks random user
 
!!/blame
 
@Adriaan It's FOX 9000's fault.
 
 
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8:56 AM
@SmokeDetector I'd say spam. Link is just to their own website with no other attempt to answer the question.
 
9:09 AM
Morning
 
user3956566
C++ people. This is on the verge of being reopened stackoverflow.com/questions/52067749/…. I suspect it is now a dupe?
 
Could a 10k user please check if this answer was mod-deleted? Three answers on that question disappeared at the same time, so I'm assuming so
Just curious more than anything
 
yup, Bragrav nuked 3 answers
 
user3956566
@MichaelDodd other user and mod deleted
 
9:13 AM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre @YvetteColomb cheers
 
user3956566
@MichaelDodd yw
 
Morning all
 
Morning
 
@YvetteColomb Can't you ping the closers? Like the one with the name I can't read that has a gold badge in c++ (hint: look up from this)
 
9:19 AM
Anyone involved in a posts history can be actively pinged.
Anyone can be invited for "private chats"
 
@πάνταῥεῖ not entirely; close voters without gold badge closure can't be pinged
 
How odd - this C++ question that is getting a rough ride has a bunch of downvotes that do not appear to have cost the user anything: stackoverflow.com/users/10287228/krista-littmann?tab=reputation
 
@πάνταῥεῖ but it's helpful sarcasm.
 
@Adriaan Fair point, yes. And those "poor souls" shouldn't either be pingable.
 
@halfer Rep can't go below 0. The upvotes came after the downvotes.
 
9:21 AM
@halfer possibly they first got 8 down votes, and since they can't go below 1 rep, that didn't cost them anything, then 3 upvotes, which earned them 15 rep, so now they have a total of 16
 
Ah, gotcha. I thought they'd earned the invincibility badge
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre There are disputes about help-/harm fulness of sarcasm.
 
I wouldn't mind borrowing that :=)
 
user3956566
@AndréKool meh. I ask whoever's in the room atm.
 
@YvetteColomb Well, I did try to give a hint that one of the closers (with a gold badge ideal for dupe hammering) is currently with us in the room :)
 
9:27 AM
@Adriaan So downvotes on a 1 rep account are wasted? Don't they count once the poster gets more rep? I thought they are still subtracted from future reputation. Imo anything else would be unfair.
 
@AndréKool That kinda nudging isn't kool, just stop it.
 
Morning, btw.
 
user3956566
@AndréKool this I agree. I can also close it as a dupe. I was just too lazy to go find one. So was asking the people active in the tag.
 
@toohonestforthissite Yeah they are. More than one dv isn't really necessary to indicate more privileged users to close the post. But the voting cultures are quite individual overall SE sites.
 
@toohonestforthissite Certainly not. They count towards Q-bans. They just don't influence reputation
 
9:31 AM
@ErikvonAsmuth and that yes ...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Well, it would be better the 1 is just a way of saturation for privs, etc. but internally the rep would be calculated according to all votes, i.e. could become negative (maybe saturated at -2 147 483 648).
 
@toohonestforthissite No, they won't. Rep addition/subtraction is calculated as soon as someone votes, and if no rep can be subtracted that's the end of it. DVs of course still influence the roomba and Q ban, so they are not wasted as such, but they do not influence reputation on 1 rep accounts indeed
 
conclusion: keep downvotes until someone pity-upvotes.
 
I am no longer counting how much up-/down- and close votes I have in a day. I am just using that from my guts, and if its exhausted, its exhausted.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, that's a useful strategy.
 
@AnttiHaapala Bounty :(
 
9:37 AM
@AnttiHaapala modflag to have the bounty removed, otherwise we can't close.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Or un-downvote and re-downvote once the poster got some rep … I don't think that's intended; better would be what I described and only use the "capped" rep for display/privs, but track it correctly internally. But maybe that's too complicated on a programming site:-\
 
@MichaelDodd @Adriaan sorry for blindness :D
 
@toohonestforthissite not if the vote is locked.
 
flag'd
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I often find that. -- shrug --
 
9:39 AM
Imo the motivation to downvote should be to moderate content, not to punish by taking someone's rep.
 
@ErikvonAsmuth true but downvoting should do both.
 
@AnttiHaapala I've flagged as well
 
Well, the +6 seen after an "empathetic" upvote often looks undeserved :P
 
 
@rene You swing the ..., no, no, no I am not going to say that ;)
wafflez
 
10:17 AM
o/
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I (think) I agree with @πάνταῥεῖ here; the locking is - well - unfortunate anyway
 
@SmokeDetector Worth flagging that edit? No excuse for adding punctuation spam
 
@ErikvonAsmuth I does take the rep of ousers who have some. Insofar it's an asymmetry; most users, inlcuding long-term have only 1 rep; what does that say? Rep is the way to let users know they don't provide good posts. If you call this punishment, so be it, b ut I call this an indicator for other users to judge the overal quality of a user's posts. Not as the only criterion, but combined with how long he is on this site, how many posts, etc.
 
@tripleee I've ninja-ed you
 
@rene ouch, thanks for the ping
 
10:26 AM
@MichaelDodd well, they wanted to inline the image, they could have done <!-- 6 chars --> instead ...
but the best they could have done was close voting
 
@πάνταῥεῖ empathetic … I like that word :-)
 
@rene It's more the random extra punctuation after "looks like" to seeming get around the character limit (if it exists for 2k users)
 
yes. If it bothers you and that editor did that more often, raise a mod flag
 
@rene Looks like just the one-off, so I'll let it fly with just the rollback I did. They're currently on an inline-image spree
On the plus side, they're also bringing a lot of poor-quality questions back into play
 
10:51 AM
What is my question's problem? I got downvotes ): stackoverflow.com/questions/48384557/…
 
@A-O you don't show your own research and literally ask for code, which is off-topic on Stack Overflow.
Basically the question comes across as "write my code", which is perceived as rude, exactly because you've not shown any effort from your side into solving this
 
Hmmm, I don't know why when I ask stupid questions people vote them up, But when I really have searched for something and I ask a question about it people attack me!
@Adriaan Right
 
@A-O if you have searched thoroughly, please, do add what you found and tried to your question. We're not clairvoyant, so we simply cannot assume any effort/knowledge on your part beyond what you show in the question. Therefor, always add what you already found out and tried to a question
 
@A-O Downvotes are not attacks at you. They are an indication that people don't think that particular question is useful.
 
@AndréKool not useful or shows no research effort, I primarily downvote because of the latter, as I can hardly determine whether any question is useful outside of , but determining research effort is easy
 
10:59 AM
@A-O I'm trying to override the methods at a minimum include which methods you override (and why and how) and what happened when you did. That will show those that can answer if you're on the right track and/or what you've misunderstood in extending that package.
 
@rene +1 Right now I can't ask any more questions, But in the future, I'll be trying to fix my mistakes
 
@Cœur It itches me a bit that users immediately suggest migration to other language SO's without a proper assessment of quality. :[
 
@E_net4 I used the "unclear" close reason
 
@AndréKool To be absolutely clear along with the for me unspeakable name, we're not supposed to interact anymore by no means. It's not your business but our personal one. If so we'll solve that at a personal level. Again: It's not your business to nuge!
 
@Cœur that's the official one yea
 
11:04 AM
*sit! I got 2 more vote downs right now l:
 
@E_net4 Thing is, unless we can understand the question, we have no idea as to its quality. At least by asking on the correct-language SO there will be users who can then determine the question's quality fairly
 
@A-O as said before, especially by @rene: edit your question to show what you found out in your research, and what you tried to solve the problem, e.g. the methods you override
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I already dropped this after your first responce. Can you please do me a favor and also stop about it?
 
@A-O As mentioned by others, if you improve the quality of the question, there's a chance that those who have downvoted may reverse their votes, or you may pick up upvotes to cancel out the downvotes.
 
@Adriaan Actually I didn't override anything, That's the point! I just knew some people add new patterns to the Parsedown, But how could I do the same thing was the answer!
 
11:07 AM
@MichaelDodd We have a fair close reason for that, as mentioned by Cœur: Unclear. Migrating garbage leaves a worse stain than just closing it without directly suggesting alternatives.
 
@MichaelDodd I hope ..
 
Waffles
 
@A-O And again, you said you researched this, so add your research to the question. That's the main reason you're getting downvotes is my hunch
 
@E_net4 But it wasn't a migrate vote. It was a custom close reason with a suggested better SE for OP. Though agreed that Unclear is normally my close reason for other-language posts.
 
@Adriaan Ok let me edit my question
 
11:13 AM
@MichaelDodd It doesn't differ much from an automatic migration here, because the way it was phrased will lead the OP to just copy-pasta the thing to the other site. In these cases, one should at least recommend improving the question before reasking elsewhere.
But yeah, we're all in sync here. :) I was just venting a teeny bit.
 
@Adriaan What now? Is it better?
 
@A-O Hi A - O. Please note that it's fine to talk here about why a post is closed and how to reopen it, but it's off-topic for this chat group when it's about up/down votes. You may find guidance on meta.stackoverflow.com
 
@A-O looks better. Please do ask a clearer question though, that still seems to be lacking. Question as in: the actual answerable sentence which ends with a question mark
 
@E_net4 Thing is, I can't read portuguese, so I have no idea to judge the quality of a post in another language (at least not until we get de.SO or cn.SO)
 
@MichaelDodd That is fine. Just vote to close as Unclear.
 
11:19 AM
@MichaelDodd I wish we had cn.SO !
 
@Cœur It would definitely get me some reading practice, even if it'll be 99% simplified instead of traditional
 
I wish everyone just communicated in English on the web. It prevents you from having knowledge spread out over several languages, most of which I cannot read. The pool of knowledgeable people is bigger when they're all speaking the same language
 
@A-O the code you added seems vaguely related but isn't your current attempt, just somebody else's code to do something slightly different. How did you try to adapt this? How did it fail?
 
@MichaelDodd oh, you got taiwanese/hongkongese family?
 
@A-O the 'question' now is rather bad, "any idea" is so open ended, it's likely to be closed as "too broad", and asking for documentation is off-topic (as the close reason says). Try to, as @tripleee said, ask about your specific code.
 
11:22 AM
Hmmm
 
@Cœur Yeah, my wife is Taiwanese
Lovely country, was last over there in early May
 
@tripleee No, I wrote it by myself I just looked at to some other extensions and...
 
I was in Taiwan in 1998... twenty years ago... now I'll feel nostalgic for the rest of the day.
 
whether it's your own or somebody else's is beside the point really, the beef is "this code solves a different problem"
 
@Cœur tbh the only thing that's stopped me moving there is that I'd be paid 40~50% less, Software Development isn't a highly-paid job over there
That and we want to get permanent residency sorted for her over here first (despite the fact she's lived half her life in the UK now)
 
11:28 AM
starting from a piece of working code is fine but you need more than "how do I fix this", show exactly where you are stuck (very often that means a much more specific question)
 
@Cœur,@tripleee,@Adriaan Thanks for your helping guys, I hope those people who vote down my question check it again :))
 
11:47 AM
stackoverflow.com/questions/12026381/… If I had done this I would have gotten many downvotes, There is just a spelling mistake ..
 
@A-O Stack Overflow has changed a lot since 2012, the large number of upvotes do not mean "this is a good question by today's standards"; it probably means "many people found this page useful"
probably because they were looking for something tangentially related such as how to convert to mp4
 
@Cœur How did you dig that up?
 
You know, I don't get it! It's really easy to use FFMPEG! You could convert anything to anything else by using this fixed structure: ffmpeg -i video.foo output.bar
 
@A-O Another bad question does not mean your bad question is acceptable, no matter how old/recent a question is. You should read about how moderation hee works; it's a community effort and ot's natural some fishes slip through the nets.
 
11:51 AM
@AndréKool Sure
 
@A-O you are preaching to the choir here, you will find full agreement here and on Meta that ideally these things from the past should just disappear, but slightly less ideally removing content which many people found useful is not a good way to remain popular, even if that's at odds with your primary goal
 
Re, your question and edits: It seems you are just guessing. In general it is better to get a good foundation in programming, the language and tools you use than following obscure "tutorials" (this is a general advise, not specifically addressed to you).
@A-O: Finally: This is not the place to discuss this; as @tripleee wrote, checkout meta, which is the right place to complain about the whys of a specific closure further. Just beware of the meta-effect and check if this was asked before.
 
@toohonestforthissite ok
 
@AndréKool That's just 1 out of 10 questions found in PT using a few random keywords. I'm not allowed to list them all on this chat room, as per room rules.
 
@Cœur is equal to I want to cv-pls but I can't since it's too old?
 
11:59 AM
@ErikvonAsmuth yes ^_^ I'll not post more links for the day.
 
@Cœur Hey, no judgement here, just want to know what's happening. If you have a SEDE query or list, feel free to share
 
Can I ask one more question?
 
@A-O You just did. :-)
 
Is there any hope or way of being allowed to ask a question again? I mean I'm banned from asking new questions in StackOverflow ):
 
@ErikvonAsmuth Have fun closing/deleting: stackoverflow.com/search?q=n%C3%A3o+estou
@A-O You can ask it on meta.stackoverflow.com I think.
 
12:07 PM
@A-O predictably, there's a good question about that on meta .... hang on
 
@A-O Such bans are normally temporarily. There should be a time given, if not, ask a mod (but don't ping them here)
Yeah, read first
 
@toohonestforthissite It's been a long time which I can't ask any questions
@tripleee Thanks again
 
@A-O Read the meta @tripleee linked. It seems I was wrong about "temporary" (I won't tell you more; just read all of it).
 
"Offensive" user names problem in this tweet twitter.com/natalieweiner/status/1034533245839450113
Really funny :)
 
@A-O gist is: improve your existing questions (you must have a lot of deleted ones, since you only have one question with downvotes visible), otherwise: you can ask one question every 6 months, and in case the new question(s) are of sufficient quality, the ban will be removed
 
@FireAlarm rather bad self-Q/A. Close as TB?
 
@Adriaan I've thrown in an off-topic -> SU close vote.
@Cœur I've voted on most of them, and edited the double-language ones.
 
@Queen Queeny, my honey :)
 
12:33 PM
This is company support. Is it not?
 
@SurajRao it's eyebleed with that amount of bold- and code-formatting misused.
 
there are also 2 other options for support mentioned on the page that was linked
 
@Adriaan Urgh, and they have ~1000 answers written like that.
 
@halfer some people never learn, and some others work on the constructive criticism
 
@Adriaan yep, some people just take criticism head on - it mostly isn't personal
The curse of the human condition is that we nearly always think criticism is personal - we are not our behaviour
 
12:44 PM
@SmokeDetector Spam? Unsure how to call that one, has user posted that URL before in deleted questions?
 
@halfer I have a feeling it's a cultural thing, because "us Westeners" don't use formatting that often, whereas people from Asia seem to use it quite often to place emphasis on certain things, which make it look like a carnival with all the different markdown styles flowing through one another
 
(yes, I'll get around to asking for privileges sometime...)
 
@Adriaan Yeah, I've noticed a cultural discrepancy here too. It's odd, because it feels to me like every other word is being shouted
 
@halfer exactly; same goes for transliterating from other alphabets to Latin, some people indeed use only caps then
 
I wonder if newspapers and books in India use bold as freely?
Occasional italics I can cope with :-)
 
12:46 PM
@halfer The most sold "newspaper" in Germany is also all bold in varying degree.
 
well answer is "we dont support Ionic".. so not really an answer..
 
@toohonestforthissite You mean all "Bild" in varying degree ...?
 
@toohonestforthissite All bold is at least consistent - and when the writer wants emphasis, she can reach for super-extra-bold.
 
@SurajRao outch, that's a rather upfront way of poking the devs
 
Eek, 28k user edits a solution into the start of a question. I think I am going to give up for today, Stack Overflow is unteachable.
 
12:52 PM
@halfer I wonder whether Tim Post is going mad now, us veterans chasing away other veterans
 
@Adriaan Heh! Perhaps we can redefine veteran as "someone who understands how the site works", and then that term won't apply
 
We start a new site, caretakers.overflow.com where you are all welcome
 
@halfer That would mean a new user can start off as a veteran. That sounds pretty cool :)
 
@AndréKool Which means they can spout on Meta about how the site ought to work. Can't see any problems with that :=)
They can be like Chaos Monkeys to see how resilient the community is. No downvotes allowed. No close votes allowed unless you read my question CAREFULLY. Every question must be accompanied by urgent begging and txtspk. Any criticism is harassment and will result in the commenter being banned for a week.
3
\o/
 
@halfer Now, at what depth would that plane of hell be?
On a scale of 1 to POB?
 
12:59 PM
@E_net4 I think you have to get past Cerberus and cross the River Styx first.
 
@halfer And then deeper, I bet.
 
Morning
 
Afternoon
 
'fternoon
 
1:03 PM
'ternoon
 
@E_net4 I think the Stack Overflow Chaos Monkeys are just next to Sisyphus pushing his boulder. Come to think of it, that's not a bad metaphor for SO CVR. Maybe we're in hell, being punished for a terrible evildoing.
'ernoon
 
'rnoon
 
@halfer Not sure what @Cerbrus has to do with this. He'll gladly let you into Hell, it's getting back out that's tricky
 
@Machavity Depends if (Cerbrus === Cerberus)
 
@halfer Kerberos? Wut? :P
 
1:06 PM
Just give him some scooby snacks to get out (Or was that a different puppy?)
 
;-)
 
@rene Yeah. Still unchallenged in regard of quality - if we agree quality is expressed bv a signed.
 
@halfer Our sin was to get at least 3000 for the close vote privilege then. :[
 
@E_net4 I think the sin would need to be far worse than that
 
@halfer Well, that "all degrees was me trying a pun actually. The headlines and subtitles are kinda bold, the rest is bold. I'm not sure, but afaik there is a similar English Magazine - "The Sun"? (not sure which one). It#s all about reaching the taste of the masses. Short sentences, simple words, no complicated context, simple conclusions, don't even try to make the reader think on his own.
 
1:11 PM
@toohonestforthissite Ah, the typographer's joke passed me by!
 
@halfer Well, I won't post a link to their webshite here.
 
@toohonestforthissite The Sun is a British tabloid, read by about 5M white-van-man readers every day. The Oxbridge writers have to deliberately dumb down their writing, to a reading age of 11. It is a primary vehicle for the parent company to inflict its right-wing, neoliberal, anti-European views on an impressionable public.
Proof, if it were needed, there is no such thing as a free press.
 
@toohonestforthissite Surely you mean The S*n or The Scum? (grew up around the Liverpool area, that name is still effectively a swear word to this day)
 
@MichaelDodd How easy is it for a committed Sun reader to purchase their rag in Liverpool? Do the supermarkets carry it, for example?
 
@halfer Yes, that sounds familiar. "Springer press" (the house behind BILD - note the all-uppercase name) is/was a long term red rag for intelligent people. Unfortunately since Gerhard Schröder this has changed a lot among politicials from all sides.
 
1:15 PM
@halfer Very rarely stocked, some larger supermarkets may do so but mostly not. Visited my hometown a few weeks ago, didn't see any copies in the newsagents
@halfer But they still haven't been forgiven for the Hillbrough coverage, from both sides of Stanley Park (Everton & Liverpool FC)
 
@MichaelDodd I was in Liverpool a couple of weeks ago, as it happens. I'd not been before.
@MichaelDodd I bet. I imagine trust in the police took a dip as well
 
@MichaelDodd Funny how similar the jokes around the names are. In Germany its "BILD" (image/picture) -> "BLÖD" (stupid, dumb).
 
user3956566
a heads up this is related to this
 
@MichaelDodd Ok, that's a difference. The red boldness is available all around here. Unfortunately other newspapers have started to lower their niveau, too since 20 years or so. And event the self proclaimed "high quality" papers/magazines now often have a lot of badly researched articles now. But that's a global phenomenon.
 
For those unfamiliar with Hillsborough and how it relates to The S*n not being stocked around Liverpool -> Wikipedia
@toohonestforthissite The Daily Mail has similar flak thrown at it from certain quarters because of its highly conservative stance
 
1:26 PM
somehow this is still up...
Obvious dupe if you ask me
that or the title/question doesn't match
 
@MichaelDodd Thanks, for the link. I didn't remember the name, but I remember the breakdown and fatal decissions were reported on German TV quite detailed. IIRC there were also discussions about the safety in German stadions (they became "Arenas" (sic, uppercase) much later).
 
user3956566
@EpicKip I'm not sure why you're one boxing this
 
user3956566
or what the issues is
 
Well, its a question that gets asked a lot (first letter of each word) and a high rep person jumps on it and somehow it stays open
I think thats odd
 
@EpicKip do know we have some policies to prevent our transcript being full of one-boxed questions. Please see our FAQ.
 
1:29 PM
But if that is not allowed here consider me warned :D
@rene what do you mean by a one-boxed question? I honestly don't know (not a native English speaker)
 
@MichaelDodd That sounds like the "Frankfurter Allgemeine" (conservative and high literate stance). Also with increase difference between sense of self and reality
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
stuff you socvr.org! ruining my example
 
@YvetteColomb Yes I am reading that at the moment, just got to the one box part. So the comment link formatting is what I should use yes
 
Zoe
1:33 PM
@EpicKip A onebox contains pre-rendered output of a target link. Could be an image, link content, etc. this is a onebox, but this is not:
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
^^ @EpicKip that's a one box
 
@SmokeDetector That's their second one today. I'd call that spam.
 
user3956566
@SmokeDetector stuff you smokie ruining my onebox education
 
Thank you :)
 
1:35 PM
@EpicKip hey @PatrickHofman by the looks of it you answered an obvious dupe. if we want to roomba it you might have to delete that answer. That also helps to make you a bit lower in rep so it becomes more okay to answer dupes (when >10K it is for some reason a sin) (all jokes ofc.)
 
what? jokes? where?
 
That we hope it will roomba... (since it's a dupe)
 
Do we do jokes here 0.o
 
@YvetteColomb do you dare to edit that so it no longer one-boxes? Last time I asked you that, you deleted it and that is not what I prefer in this case ;)
 
@EpicKip We don't moderate jokes Meta in here
 
1:37 PM
@EpicKip welp no jokes
 
Oo look, a box- and it's gone.
 
only for educational purpose
 
in the end someone has to try to see which one-box is bigger ...
 
lol, let me find a 1600x1600 image...
 
1:39 PM
As we all know it's not about the size, but the resolution.
 
@PetterFriberg Grab yourself a Gigapixel-scale whole-slide microscopy image. :)
 
@SmokeDetector is that one of those official download-link questions which Shog does not allow us to delete?
 
??, why Mac?
 
@PetterFriberg The Shog9 exception might apply here
 
@Adriaan Does it also apply to non-programming tools?
 
1:41 PM
@toohonestforthissite not a clue, hence my question
 
@Machavity baah we can close it...
 
Waffles
 
@PetterFriberg The K? He's offering a location to download the full version. It's the link version of "Hey kid..."
 
@Adriaan Maybe for such questions there should be a "forward to shog" flag.
 
It gets resized :(
 
user3956566
1:42 PM
@rene hehe yeh.. glad you reminded me, there was a high risk of me deleting it again.. :D
 
@Machavity hmm but why spam, maybe OP is just trying to answer?
 
Sya Syvette
 
@YvetteColomb lol
 
Good thing that our snake language overrides the dont ping mods rule here hehe
 
@PetterFriberg And how do you know that download is clean?
 
user3956566
 
oh btw congrats on your ROshipment @Machavity \o
 
@Machavity I don't, but I also do not know that it's not, the link as it is seems fine...
 
@kayess Thanks!
 
@PetterFriberg I followed that link and nothing good came out of it
 
@PetterFriberg Well, it's closed now. I'll just slide this delete vote across the table
 
1:45 PM
@rene did bees attack your stamens?
 
@rene ??, I did to it's a whole article about downloding and a fat button to download, so I click and test :)?
 
@rene I am okay deleting it, but there seems more than the obvious dupe. There is the razor escaping too, which makes it less a dupe. I will go with whatever you advise to rene.
 
@PatrickHofman Might it be too broad then?
 
@PatrickHofman I would leave it.
 
Or OP just isnt sure what hes asking (because he's not awere where the problem lies)
 
1:46 PM
meeh I will protest that you spam nuked that, maybe just a "New Contributor" trying to be helpful... but I will let it slide without mod flag
 
No need to be upset about that one. There are so many other no-waffles around to be upset about.
 
@PetterFriberg OK, noted.
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg meh mod flag away ;D
 
: ), na it's an unregistered user, it's not worth keeping around so no.
 
^ NAA
Who the waffle upvotes spam?
 
1:52 PM
isnt this an attempt to answer? : "However, it runs correctly on iOS 11. It seems like reloadData is not working on iOS 12 when it is done in the viewDidLoad method of the UIViewController." I mean its just an assumption... But still
 
@SmokeDetector That looks spammy to me
 
It's a statement of symptoms.
 
@J.Steen I would not flag it as such I read this as answer "It seems like reloadData is not working on iOS 12", hence bug in iOS12, but review queue will kill it
 
@PetterFriberg Hmm, interesting, thanks.
 
shrug It it's declined, it's declined. =)
 
1:54 PM
@MichaelDodd Repeat spammer
 
@TylerH Yeah they have some cool cross referencing also ;), hence they probably see which user are using same ip (dns)
 
@Machavity Aha, didn't catch the first instance, guessing they're logged on MS?
 
@MichaelDodd More or less. Smoke Detector remembers...
 
@JohnDvorak Many moons ago that would be closed as "Lacks minimal understanding..."
 
2:10 PM
@TylerH That was back when Welcoming wasn't a thing, but brickbats were
 
@Machavity Our brickbats are now made from polystyrene
 
morning
 
\o
 
@Machavity Some people would find brickbats a welcoming prospect
 
Morning gunr
 
2:13 PM
\o
 
@Machavity I think it would still be therapeutic for me to bash some Chaos Monkeys with one of those
 
@halfer do you still have the link of the question edited with an answer by 28k user?
 
2:55 PM
@gunr2171 g'd afternoon :-P
 
yo
 
I am drunk as a pig, any piggeries yet?
 
o/
 
\o
 
3:12 PM
@Machavity Answer is plagiarism of page 30 of this document
 
@MichaelDodd Mod flag please
 
@Machavity Done already, just making aware
 
@toohonestforthissite How is that TB?
 
3:18 PM
You swish, no no no no ...
 
@NathanOliver It boils down to "explain these operators to me and how they inter-operate", i.e. tutoring of basics, including the behaviour of bit-manipulation in general.
 
That doesn't mean it is too broad. Basic questions are allowed
 
@NathanOliver Yes, but only about a specific problem. "How do bitops work" is not specific.
 
Its hard to get them good, and not result in another canonical dupe.
 
whatever, we obviously disagree.
 
3:21 PM
So its me I have to dig deeper?
or were we were<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<ß
 
@NathanOliver I can live with that. How about some waffles?
 
tea plz, tea!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I had 1.5l today already. Enough is enough.
 
29 mins ago, by πάντα ῥεῖ
I am drunk as a pig, any piggeries yet?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Already? Wow, that's early. Wait - there was something … yet?
 
3:33 PM
@toohonestforthissite I am somehow leftover drinking (whiskey) since yesterday, playing my guitar all night long, and then suddenly it was 8 o' clock in the morning, and I had to phone my boss I am not coming today, and then decided to go just straight with this stance for the rest of the day :-P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Lol, crashed again? Really, be careful, I don't want you to get into trouble.
(yeah, I know these "when happened the night?" times.
 
@toohonestforthissite More crushed than crashed. My boss is happy with me, I am sure :-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ You really must have an interesting boss. I was befriended to a former boss of mine, but we quite strictly seperated that from the job. But then he was 1 of 3 bosses and not the CEO.
 
@toohonestforthissite The one boss I phoned that morning is the CEO of the company, and we know us for a very long time. If I phone him and tell, it doesn't make much sense with me today, he'll believe me and just agrees. Regarding my other boss, who's currently on holidays, it would render the same thing.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Well, if I'm not able to work, my boss isn't, too aqs you know, but Normally I try to keep the head clear on weekdays. (and on weekends, too, mostly). It's basically the same reason I don't join multiplayer games, if you understand what I mean (let's not discuss this here further).
 
3:47 PM
:-D
"Normally I try to keep the head clear on weekdays. " Me too, but accidents happen :-P
 
/o
 
3:55 PM
\/O\/
 
|o
 
Does anyone know of a guitar hero like App to play with a real guitar? I mean the App runs down and shows you the chords to play but buzzers if you play it wrong?
@rene Park here plz.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ RockSmith for steam might do that
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I think there something like that on the C64 or Amiga, if that halps ;-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ RockSmith does that, but why would you want to play a real guitar instead of Guitar Hero? :(
 
3:58 PM
@Adriaan Hmm I thought of something available for my Google Nexus 10
 
I wonder if I still could learn playing keyboard at my age. I mean, to a level I won't attract all cats for fighting in the neighbourhood.
 
@E_net4 Because I could get real groupies at the camp fire :-P
 
I'm closing that off-site resource request as unclear
 
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