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12:07 AM
@Adriaan Does this question look on-topic? Seems to be asking for an opinion but not sure
 
 
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3:44 AM
good morning
 
4:33 AM
this is tangential but that ^ is a junk answer on one of the highest-voted posts in the network, which just needs one more
 
@tripleee I'm slightly baffled by the trolling and junk content from that user, given that they have other legitimate content.
 
yeah, it's weird ... I'm guessing the downvotes on some of their serious attempts got them miffed?
 
My rude/abusive flags on both were marked helpful... seems like a moderator applied the hard abusive flag on them.
I can't see deleted posts on this site, though
 
I can (-:
 
Rob
@EJoshuaS Nope, just deleted
 
4:40 AM
@tripleee Oddly, I have Trusted User status on Lit.SE, but not here yet. (You only need 4k there since it's in Public Beta still). I almost never have a reason to use any of the privileges, though.
 
nah, it's occasionally convenient but that's the extent of it
 
 
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6:16 AM
hello there i have one doubt
 
6:31 AM
@NileshRathod Only one? That's impressive. :-)
How can we help?
 
@Makyen i have close this question as duplicate stackoverflow.com/questions/51055347/…
one user put comment like this Hi @Nilesh, before closing as duplicate, please explain what may or maynot causes null pointer. Simply closing as null pointer makes new comers feel lost
did i make mistake by closing that question ?
 
I dont think so. I would have tried to find/add a closer duplicate if one exists...
NPE is suposed to be a canonical anyway
 
@NileshRathod We're actually going to need to hear from someone else other than myself, as I'm not that familiar with Java. All I can really say is that it's common to have Java questions which touch on NullPointerException issues closed to the canonical NPE Q&A. This has appeared to me to be the case regardless of the individual circumstances of the specific question being closed.
 
7:38 AM
@NileshRathod Unless you want to post a del-pls, we don't generally report NAA answers here, because there's nothing that multiple people can really do. A single NAA flag puts the answer in the Low Quality Posts (LQP) queue. More flags has minimal effect (per additional flag, it does require 1 more "Looks OK" response to have the post exit the LQP queue). If the post gets edited from the LQP queue, we support reflag-pls, because it then needs to be flagged again, and the original person can't.
If you have a question about one, we're happy to provide opinions at to it actually being NAA, or answer other quandaries.
afk
 
Morning
 
8:02 AM
\o
 
Is there a rule/guideline for how long we should wait before posting a cv-pls request? Maybe like wait until the 5 min grace period is over?
 
@AndréKool we currently have no hard rule but IIRC it was discussed in one of the roommeetings?
No specific outcome
 
@rene OK, was just curious
 
8:24 AM
@AndréKool I skimmed over the last roommeetings but I can't find it: socvr.org/room-info/room-meetings/info Maybe we had this discussion in this room without it being documented / noted.
Feel free to raise an issue on the github repo so we can discuss it in the next meeting
 
9:13 AM
@rene Done. I hope it's clear enough.
 
9:27 AM
Is it wrong that I love seeing complains about my downvotes?
 
@AndréKool Yes, because it clearly shows that you are suffering from flagitsm, the case when you are too much in love flagging those comments as not needed : )
 
@Machavity Looks OK imo, OK but dead
 
9:43 AM
@AndréKool I've copied the chat message that caused all this into the body
but beyond that, it's fine
 
10:04 AM
Is it ok to ask here for confirmation of my suspicion that a user reposted his question?
 
@AndréKool If he confirmed, how is this still a suspection only?
 
@Olaf In the 6 min between my question and cv-pls request my suspiction was confirmed by OP.
 
@MartinJames Any reason you didn't correct the tag at least?
 
@Olaf Also it was more of a general question to know if that is accepted behaviour (asking to confirm my suspicions) in this room.
 
10:22 AM
@AndréKool Darn race-conditions ;-)
 
11:02 AM
@NileshRathod Is it just me or are the tags there not working?
 
@AndréKool i don't know may i forgot to give space between two tags
 
Works for me fine... :o
 
11:31 AM
 
11:42 AM
You were ninja-ed ....
 
@rene Can you see what is wrong with the tags on this request?
 
@AndréKool huh? Maybe an extra cr/lf that turns it into a multi-line message?
@AndréKool it looks their message started with a cr/lf as I repro-ed it here
That makes it a multi-line message and those don't handle markdown
 
12:05 PM
@Adriaan Thanks. Just retagged it then
 
@AndréKool It's most likely the missing space between the tag markers. […][…] has a special meaning in markdown. It might not be rendered in chat, but I suppose the parser still handles it.
 
@Olaf Rene already found the problem
 
@AndréKool Hmm, yeah, I thought there could be two reasons, but apparently there is no need for a speace between tags in chat. That for my re-using code theory.
 
12:40 PM
Morning
 
Afternoon
 
12:50 PM
@Olaf With teh multiple borkenness, there didn't seem to be much point:(
 
@MartinJames I'd reject such an edit from review as I don#t think it's worth giving the rep, but as we don't get any rep for such edits … ;-) But yeah, there's a lot borken in this question ;-)
 
Lol, was that seriously about hairloss?
 
Yes it was. But you can avoid hair loss by not using Java so I'm not worried
 
Yes it was. It says you should use potato juice. I didn't know potatoes could be juiced.
 
@NathanOliver Everything can be juiced. It's just a matter of temperatur and pressure. And not ever juice is good for organisms.
 
1:05 PM
With enough pressure even rocks can be juiced ...
 
@rene Look, The Rock never juiced. He was always naturally strong enough to hit people with folding chairs
 
@Machavity Chuck Norris could juice The Rock easily.
 
2:09 PM
@rene might need a manual bin of this request (is closed but doesn't show as a tag)
 
@PaulRoub can you chime in here? A post that has a comment from you is used as a possible bad audit
 
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2:32 PM
@Machavity this is 3 months old and drawing "I have this problem too" in the ANSWERS by low rep user. I protected it but it needs closure and deletion for sure.
 
@feelingunwelcome Yep. Popped up in NATO
 
Ron
o/
 
Ron
I can't squeeze in all the goodies I wanted to squeeze in my presentation. Alas poor Ron.
 
2:45 PM
You'll just have to make it a multi part presentation.
 
Ron
I guess so.
I wonder if they will let me. We will see.
 
Wow them with the first one so they all want more.
 
What is a multi-part presentation? One for the left-eye/right-brain and one for the right-eye/left-brain?
 
Ron
@NathanOliver Good advice.
 
I think it's a presentation where everyone falls asleep and you have to wake them up for the second part.
 
Ron
2:50 PM
Nathan gets the idea ;)
 
@rene Brad's answer summed things up, with more context than I could provide (esp. now that the account is gone).
 
@AndréKool Oh, you have been to one of my presentations?
 
@rene Its a presentation where for each slide you pluck a petal from the nearest flower.
 
Ron
:)
 
@PaulRoub yeah, I saw Brad's response. While I agree with the nuke and flags, I kind of get they got tricked in that audit which is why I wondered if there was more backstory to it. Thanks!
@NathanOliver sounds not very inclusive for plants ...
 
2:53 PM
@SmokeDetector voted to delete
@rene It's not. We were going to go green but management found it was cheaper to drop colors and just be black. ;)
 
:D
 
3:22 PM
Should I do something when I see someone making the exact same edit suggestion again after it was rejected?
 
@AndréKool if it doesn't get better, yes.
 
The only thing I can think of is mod flag.
 
past the 2 minute edit window
 
Yeah, I'm slacking
 
uh, we're not using slack. We're using Stack Overflow Chat.
:p
I'll show myself out
 
3:34 PM
actually, I'm cucumbering. Trying to test something with Cucumber and node and what not.
@gunr2171 awesome, take the dogs for a walk as well ...
 
woof
wait, I get to take Undo and Jon for a walk? That actually sounds like fun
 
wonders if gunr knows what dogs do when on a "walk"
 
3:59 PM
@AndréKool Maybe for the first reprtition, I'd leave a comment (and reject again), if that occurs once more I'd custom-flag the edit. Depends on how obviously bad th3e edit was, too.
 
@NathanOliver I think he missed that meeting
 
That can't happen. Gunr's life is meetings. To miss one is to die
 
5:36 PM
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Q: Run the [automobiles] off the road!

Machavityautomobiles 26 questions about... cars. In fact, I'm not sure why some questions even have the tag. You've even got to admire the excerpt An automobile, autocar, motor car or car is a wheeled motor vehicle used for transporting passengers, which also carries its own engine or motor. Most def...

 
6:19 PM
How recent the changes should be on a post to be eligible for a cv-pls?
 
@Vega Do you mean changes on an old post?
 
Yes. Sorry, I wasn't clear
 
I would say fairly recent. Normally we just do request on them when they pop up in other moderation or browsing that we are doing during the day. Have a link?
 
Yes, I think there were a recent answer, deleted now. I wasn't able to see it in the timeline, so I am maybe wrong. I close voted it yesterday. The timeline also says that there is an invalidated close vote. I am not sure it's mine. If it's mine, then why and how? The link: stackoverflow.com/q/1559464/5468463
 
That's fine. Looks like the review aged out for some reason.
 
6:33 PM
That ('aged out' too quickly) happens to me too often
 
7:34 PM
Hi, get ready for ... delvote party
 
Party? I want to go! oh wait, I don't have 10k. Well, I'll just be here....in this corner... alone.
 
<10k? tough break! what are you waiting for? there are tons of java duplicates to reply to and gain rep out there.
 
If you got to a meeting you'll have company
@gunr2171 btw, games tonight?
 
(well implies dupe right?)
 
@NathanOliver yup. Will be around at 5:30 your time
 
7:43 PM
sounds good
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm a c# person. I'm required to hate Java.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Getting a little wall of requests.
 
@gunr2171 way to go.
 
@NathanOliver most of them hit the spot. If you think it's too much tell me... Now the new batch is ageing in my notepad file, waiting for the 2-day limit so they can be deleted :)
I use to collect them when I'm at work where the SOCVR isn't available (security issues...)
At least you have been warned :)
 
7:48 PM
Chatting with us is a security risk...? On second thought I can understand that ;)
 
@Vega As other's have said, there's no explicit limit. You can see the last time the post was active by looking in the right-sidebar. There will usually be an "active" line, which shows when the question last had activity. The relative time has a tooltip indicating the time in UTC and is clickable to reload the page with the recent activity focused. If that activity is a deleted answer, then it will just show the question (which implies the activity was on a now-deleted answer).
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre are we a security issue? What are they afraid of? That we close them down?
 
@rene or it's detected as a chat app and denied.
it's more likely to be that.
The main risk is ... to do that all day. Who wants to work when there's SOCVR available and all you nice guys to chat with ?
 
Me. "Nice to chat with". Wut?
 
I'm surprised as well
 
7:54 PM
@Vega If you cast a close-vote on 2018-06-23 at 10:58:32Z, then yes, that aged-out close-vote review was a result of your close-vote. Close-votes on questions with > 100 views expire after 4 days (14 days if < 100 views) (I'm not sure which is used for views = 100).
 
@NathanOliver .....that title
 
inorite
 
@dippas That code must've come from one of the deeper planes of JavaScript Oblivion.
 
8:11 PM
@Makyen Very clear as explanation, thank you!
 
np
 
@SmokeDetector haven't you heard about "Be Nice" policy?
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@rene that was sarcasm. I'm surprised that SO bots didn't detect that.
I'll rephrase that: "Who wants to work when there's SOCVR available and all you nice enough guys to chat with ?"
 
8:35 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You really expect to be paid for your work? What next? Fair payment so you can live from your single job? youtube.com/watch?v=PNnqjbojqjE (no, it's not Rick Babyface tough guy)
 
!!/blame
 
@Machavity It's Olaf's fault.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre See? All is forgiven. He's moved on ^
 
@SmokeDetector Pfffft!
 
9:03 PM
Is this even on-topic?
 
@E_net4 I can't even figure out what this is about. So how can we tell?
 
@Olaf nice music. Video clip is some piece of work... too much time watching Space 1999 while high :)
@Machavity :)
 
Regarding smoke detector above -- is that a spam link in the question? It's off-topic to be sure, but the link isn't what it says it is
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Yes, it's a spam link. They've also posted it on another site.
 
9:33 PM
@HovercraftFullOfEels Surest sign that it's spam is the link doesn't take you to a legit domain
Also note the SEO keyword stuffing
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I thought you like it;-) IIRC it was one of the most expensive clips made (consider the time of making). Well, good ol' times, they don't make good clips like this anymore.
I've never been a MTV fan (but I enjoyed VH1), but I have to give them they really pushed labels to make good video clips.
 
The mini-burn has been seeded with some questions. There's a handful more that could use a look
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9:52 PM
@Machavity I followed some of the other tags on some questions. That's like looking into the abbys.
 

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