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5:10 AM
erm ? do we need this? or is it due to migration?
retagged to r .
 
@SurajRao IIRC is a tag that is automatically applied when a question ends up, for various reasons, with no tags.
 
ok. Saw a few meta questions about it. Hopefully someone who knows R will add any other required tags
 
6:57 AM
Morning \o
 
\o
 
7:23 AM
@Cerbrus this posting a Meta question and deleting it after the first comment need to stop ...
 
@SmokeDetector aww, poo. Need to wait quite some time to be able to CV+delv this
 
needs a mod flag to remove bounty
 
I have flagged for mod attention
 
@SurajRao I know, or we wait 4 hours and the bounty is gone (+24 hours decision time). My experience with flagging bountied posts is that only if the bounty is very fresh mods will take care of it; otherwise they prefer to just let is expire
nvm, BR is back in da house and solved the problem
 
@rene yeah, In this case that users posts are filled with backticks.. I dont want to 'target' the user with edits. Do I mod flag?
@Adriaan Yeah mods are lurking
 
7:31 AM
Q: I need a Random number in Java. A: Install an Oracle DB and create a sequence. (must be an Oracle sales person that is short of his target)
 
@rene Yea, it's rather annoying.
 
@SurajRao That was a different one.
But also deleted, yea
 
Was talking about the linked SO posts in that deleted q
along with maybe others
 
There were 2 in the last 15 minutes :P
One I edited all the backticks out, the other one wasn't really a question
 
7:36 AM
the one you edited asked about improving questions with 2 linked SO posts. I was refering to the SO posts
OP has a bad habit
 
Has anyone noticed SO's pages being cached more aggressively, lately?
 
@Cerbrus did you blame caching ... oh wait ...
 
I vote on a post -> F5 -> vote count is reset -> Ctrl+F5 -> Vote count shows my vote.
 
@Cerbrus yeah, I have seen that. Assumed it was me
 
Browser? I'm on Chrome
 
7:39 AM
Same
 
Imma write up a meta question
 
I'll find the blame caching link ...
 
@Cerbrus This is almost certainly caching in Chrome.
 
And now I wanna make a screenshot I can't repro it.
Well nevermind -.-
 
8:20 AM
@Cerbrus Well, if you cannot blame it on caching, Chrome is always a good second:)
 
Or blame Canada
 
@Cerbrus That too, yes:)
'Multithreaded Sieve of Eratosthenes as a kernel module' - guess what, Imma not opening that, not even for the inevitable down and close.
 
8:48 AM
\o
 
9:46 AM
Plop!
 
Plop everyone
 
Plop Kyll!
 
plip!
 
10:04 AM
GMTP stands for "give me the (complete) project" :)
 
 
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11:39 AM
@rene it may merit moderator flag if we don't manage to undelete it in SOCVR.
 
@PetterFriberg I'll keep an eye on it.
 
If I flag a comment does the mod also see the other commenst on that post or only the comment i flagged?
 
@AndréKool only the comment afaik
 
11:55 AM
@Adriaan Thats to bad. Flagging a duplicate comment as no longer needed wont work then
 
@AndréKool I have written an MSO post on that meta.stackoverflow.com/a/334732/578411 (end-of-selfpromotion)
 
@AndréKool Use a custom flag then. Explain in detail, why the comment should be deleted. So far, I only have good experience with custom flags...
 
@honk I will do that next time. It was just a simple case of 3 times the same standard comment about link only answers
 
@rene here, have an edit+vote on me
 
12:11 PM
@Adriaan \o/
 
Is it normal that the election results are still featured after 3 weeks?
 
@Adriaan re-open what?
@Adriaan I guess it takes them 6 to 8 weeks to remove the tag ...
 
@Adriaan The older mods leave it so they can pretend they don't exist for a while. "Ping the new guys"
 
@rene that's .. interesting. Bin that pls, will post new
 
12:38 PM
Can't see the bugs for the code anymore ... I guess I'll just go home and try again tomorrow
 
Sam
o/
 
\o
 
Morning
 
:42182970 mod flag.. AFAIK this is using sock account to get around a ban
 
12:45 PM
@SurajRao yea, they self admitted in their next comment, hence I removed here and mod flagged
 
@PetterFriberg it is handled now.
 
@NathanOliver 'fternoon
 
Sam
@yam stats
 
Yam
@Sam I'm currently watching 802 questions.
 
12:59 PM
Apparently today is "Upvote random crap" day. Must have missed the memo
 
Ron
o/
 
@Machavity It's a carry over from the last 1500 days of upvoting random crap.
 
@AndréKool I'm not convinced that the typo was the primary issue. The OP fixed the typo in the question, so I assume the true issue is another one...
 
1:17 PM
@honk Im gonna take some coffee and read it again
@honk I think you are right. How can i remove my close vote request?
 
@AndréKool Ask a room owner to remove it. @rene, are you around?
 
thanks sam
 
Sam
@AndréKool Just ping an available room owner. :)
np
 
WUT?
 
1:23 PM
@rene Already resolved. Sorry for bothering you :)
 
Java people, does this look too broad or POB?
 
@tburrows13 I disagree this is a dupe. The proposed dupe is a blunt request for code, the question here at least conains some code. It seems to be too broad though. (and we should get the other question closed for the same reason as we are at it).
Please remember we are not a coding service.
 
1:40 PM
@Machavity Not enough to warrant a close vote IMO
@Machavity Demonstrates what he's aiming for, lists the deficiency in the class (which I didn't know existed until today, event though I'm still unlikely to use it, TIL), and doesn't seem any more POB than a well-received question I asked a couple of weeks back
 
@MichaelDodd Works for me. Thanks
 
@SurajRao I take it that you flagged that answer as NAA?
 
@AlonEitan yes..
 
3:07 PM
Uh. Late again. Good night! o/
 
Ron
o/
 
Sam
o/
 
/\o/\/\/
 
@Compass Legless again?
 
3:14 PM
o/
do you guys know any book on advanced python programming?
 
oof
 
@machetazo You might want to ask the python room about that
 
oh wow im so sorry, Im on both python and on this room. I confused them. im sorry! D:
 
easy to mistake. We look like snek too
 
lol
 
3:19 PM
:)
 
3:34 PM
Anywhere (other stacksexchanges) this question might find a better home? The user seems very willing to fix it, but seems like it really doesn't belong on SO.
 
I'm not sure. Seems like it is an easy yes answer but I've never done API calls from a mobile app so I don't know how that stuff is coded. I would think it would just be stored in a string and you just need to update that string.
 
@NathanOliver I'd argue it's more a network infrasturcture thing. He wants to avoid having to push app updates out to users with a new endpoint URL, so the only other way to do so would be to re-direct that url on the server, ergo server-side
@NathanOliver Whether it's on-topic for SF.SE is another matter though, one I'm unfamiliar with
 
shurg IDK
 
@River maybe SoftwareEngineering.se but their rules are strict. better first ask in their Chat.
 
3:53 PM
Okay, thanks guys
 
you're welcome
 
yikes
 
Not very nice indeed
 
4:22 PM
Is this enough of an answer around the link?
 
for me, no
 
Certainly not compared to the length and quality of the already present answers
okay, technically that one is the 2nd oldest one but still
 
@nyconing Sorry, we don't discuss users in this room. As to the question itself: almost anything flies on a profile page, so I doubt this is problematic for SO.
 
Yes I know its offtopic in room, but I dont know where can I ask it :P
 
You can ask on meta, FWIW user names and their profiles are given a lot of leway
 
4:34 PM
I agreed with it, AFAIK user will be banned to post inappropriate content in user name or user profile
 
@nyconing If you look at its profile you will find a link to meta and other places where to discuss it
 
@nyconing FWIW I don't agree that political protest is necessarily offensive so long as it doesn't spill out into the questions and answers. In this particular instance I won't comment as I cannot be impartial due to my wife's nationality.
 
Oh, that again. That has been flagged so many times. And all declined ...
But yeah, not a topic we discuss here. Let's move on
 
Reading through the answers on that meta I'm curious: what would happen if I were to give some blasphemous statement about a deity in one believe or another in my username? Reads to me like that would fly
 
4:49 PM
AFAIK it would be okay.
SO allows free speech so as long as you are not violating the be nice policy you should be okay. AFAIK blasphemous statements, at least as a user name or profile are not covered.
 
@NathanOliver I had a flagging-row with a CM on a blasphemous statement in a meta post a while back; apparently when using f- or s-words everybody's offended, but when using a blasphemous word (in this context interchangable with the f one), apparently everybody's happy enough about it.
 
@Adriaan trust me, I have flagged your username so often, the mods asked me to stop ...
 
@Adriaan yeah, I'm all for letting things go depending on context but it becomes murky if one post does contain all kind of dubious words and on the next those are not allowed all of a sudden.
 
@Adriaan I don't think we will get something where everyone is happy. I can understand both sides of the argument, unfortunately I lean more on the side of unless it is hate speech let it be.
 
4:56 PM
it is tough to get this right I think
 
very tough
 
Sam
@NathanOliver the problem is, people have varying ideas of what "hate speech" is.
 
If is even thougher to spell tough right
 
To me it is weird though that a word which is offensive to ~2 billion people on the planet (give or take a few hundred million) is apparently of no concern to a CM (who declined my flag saying that), whereas a word for something we do every day (the s-word that is, the f-one I'm not interested in hearing from others) is edited out directly, referring back to the Be Nice.
 
5:01 PM
@Adriaan that feels inconsistent, yes
 
@Sam Saying something about a person or group of persons is what I normally use.
 
@Adriaan Actually there is not even need to say one of the US-TV banned words. to violate the be nice rules here. Just using clear language or telling a user to read the fine maual can be enough to get a rude flag accepted.
 
@Olaf .or, if a voting-ring, 10 rude flags.
 
Sam
@NathanOliver I meant the content of what's said, not who it's directed at. As in, how offensive something needs to be before it's considered hate speech.
 
@MartinJames Can 1 or 2 users make for a ring? Not going into deep, but I'm quite sure I have one or two personal "friends" who are more likely to flag certain posts if I wrote them than another user.
 
5:14 PM
@Olaf I have a 'circle' of friends too:(
 
@MartinJames "Many enemies, much honour" - literal translation.
I just wonder who cares more about this site (and help users): folks who comment and tell a user to learn the basics, i.e. to learn fishing or those giving a fish to them. Personally, I consider certain vamps and questions hwich could easier be googled than asked very rude. They consume other people's time.
 
@Adriaan a blasphemous statement? isn't that... religiously based?
 
5:31 PM
@Sam Ah
 
@Olaf Yes, but there are a lot of them, and they visit pages/adverts. Skilled and experienced SO user-moderators are in short supply and hardly ever read the adverts. So, suggesting a noob RTFM is hammered in case it affects revenue, and a user-moderator is expected to just ignore all the 'toxic wasteland', 'bullying' etc posts for the same reason.
 
plop
 
@MartinJames I'm not talking about a simple rtfm for every question (I think we both agree almost all C and C++ questions can be answered either that way or by debugging/reviewing the logic). But for fundamental missunderstanding, e.g. the recurring "why do I get sizeof(array_parameter) == 4 in the function?" thing.
 
@Compass oh god, I misread that plop as php and started shaking from PTSD
 
Yam
GraveRobber started.
 
5:39 PM
@TylerH obviously it is, yes.
 
Sam
6:04 PM
 
@Adriaan SO is strictly non religious so saying blasphemous things isn't in itself flag-worthy...otherwise someone describing themselves as transgender in a comment would be flag-worthy to some religions. But if it was intended to rile up or was disrespectful on purpose, then I would say it is flag-worthy under the "Be Nice" rule. It's hard to say since I don't know what comment or blasphemous term/phrase you're referring to (and I'm not asking you to say it here, either, to be clear...)
 
The OP edited the above post, but it's still probably a dupe of the canonical post; any opinions on whether it should be reopened? (If it's a dupe, it seems kinda dumb to reopen it just to reclose it).
 
@EJoshuaS NPE plus, if not a wall, a high-kerb of code:(
 
@TylerH SO is strictly cultural anyway; what's offensive to a random American might or might not be offensive to someone else and vice versa. This was a clear-cut case of someone using a term, blasphemous, but in this case interchangable with the f-word, to 'strengthen' their term. No need for it, offensive to ~2B people as I said so no, I completely disagree with your comment.
 
@Adriaan Like I said, it's hard to really discuss since I don't know the details of the comment/post and I also don't know of any blasphemous term that is a replacement for the f word, just suffice it to say that blasphemy is not offensive in and of itself especially considering how religions and their beliefs are not relevant/on-topic to Stack Overflow. The only relevant part is if it was used to offend/be rude, which you say it was, so I have to take your word for it
 
6:20 PM
@TylerH it wasn't used to 'offend' in the same way as people say it "flying amazing". Replace flying by the blasphemous term that's around for that and you're done. i.e. the same as using the f-word imo
 
I honestly don't know what blasphemous word rhymes with flying or is similar to it... maybe I have not had enough caffeine today or something.
 
oof
 
7:32 PM
Dios mio
Someone look at this IDE and tell me I am insane i.stack.imgur.com/eJpDU.jpg
Comic Sans as the font for an IDE... WHY?!
 
@Compass It's not a fixed width font. Enough said.
 
It's not just that it's not fixed width
its the font
this is a very specific font
 
Maybe I wasn't clear: It's sufficient it's not a fixed width font. No need to think any further. (for the other GUI elements which don't need a FW font, I honestly don't see much of a problem. If OP prefers Old German fonts, why not … he jhust should not expect anyone else to be able to read it.
 
It's... comic sans
 
Well, Facebook/twitter in Fraktur could help cool down social media to a reasonable level.
 
Comic Sans' design purpose is literally for comic books and nothing else.
 
@Compass Well, trolling people :-D
At least it's not Papyrus
 
@Compass I wouldn't use it myself, but it's readable. So if he's happy with it, I don't see a problem for non-code. Maybe I'm getting old, but I'm not that dogmatic about the "right" font as I used to be.
 
Just joined Philosophy.SE so I could leave a comment. I really like this answer
 
@NathanOliver It is based on a wrong premise. But … "The Core" - really???
 
7:57 PM
:) Yes, really, I went there
 
@NathanOliver Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster!
 
^Recent edits to make the question active again is a valid reason to post an old question here, right? (I think so, but just making sure).
 
@EJoshuaS that's "recent activity" so yes
 
anyone here that knows bullet or bullet-physics and can me advice on this
 
8:02 PM
Any bump will do.
 
Yep, new activity makes it okay
 
I have a sneaking suspicion this question could use a little vacuuming up.
 
@rene I pass. I'm more after rocket science. Bullets are too inefficient.
 
I see
 
Bullets are just the exhaust of a gun.
 
8:04 PM
@rene I hoped on physics, not meta questions :( Anyhow: questions read good; I'd say [bullet] and [bulletphysics] should be merged for starters, as they have the exact same description, and possibly be renamed to [bullet-library]
 
@JohnDvorak One of them. The other are gasses.
 
Good, just making sure (since the question would be far too old to post here if it wasn't for the edit to bump it)
 
Don't worry. Trashing requests is cheap >:-)
 
@Adriaan yeah, you should know by now I'm pretty boring. So the duplicates are Ok-ish?
 
@MartinJames What's a "stack"?
 
8:08 PM
@Olaf I think it has somethng to do with those thread thingies..
 
@MartinJames Why don't they ask thread questions on knitting.SE?
 
@Olaf Well, that Q. is a big ball of wool, sure :)
 
@Olaf suggest a migration target to be added?
 
@MartinJames We have doggy, a guinea pig and a pink elephant. Do we have a cat?
@rene Good idea. Migrate all threads to knitting. Maybe they can make a stack pollovers from them.
 
@Olaf Maybe - it may be in a box.
 
8:12 PM
@MartinJames Just no one box.
 
@NathanOliver I didn't say they don't work (the kill-stats in US-towns proves it). But inefficient. Btw. you can get the same effect with water.
 
Is this spam or just VLQ?
^The question that that's attached to should probably be closed too
I'm inclined to give it the benefit of the doubt and go w/ VLQ, but I'm not sure.
 
Did not disclose affiliation so it could be considered spam. I would only flag it as such if it is more than one occasion though. If not I'd just VLQ it
 
8:57 PM
@FOX9000 should be approved
 
approved :) maybe editors should just not leave edit comments in those cases.
 
Maybe. Although I wont fault them for it.
 
@NathanOliver but a bot would.
 
I guess that proves I'm not a bot \o/
 
Can you read this capcha? .|_.__.|\ ?
 
9:04 PM
no
 
ok, then you're not a bot (it was random symbols I just made up)
 
:)
step one accomplished
 
 
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@NathanOliver @Jean-FrançoisFabre That edit should have been rejected. It changed the case of the first letter of all the identifiers to lowercase, such that it no longer matched the question. I've reverted and changed the offensive word to match how it was changed in the question in 2017. I've also changed the another answer under the question to match the word used in the question instead of the offensive word.
I've also flagged the comment under the question which repeats the word.
 
Sam
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