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12:11 AM
I've seeded some more
 
 
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jww
3:28 AM
Does anyone have a suggestion for this q: In linux where is user mode stack stored? I'm not sure if I should move against it. (Maybe the indecision gives me the answer).
 
the stack segment question is by and large unrelated but I would not close as too broad just because of that
 
4:10 AM
@eyllanesc This doesn't require 20k, just 10k, as it was closed months ago (10k is closed > 2 days).
 
 
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5:50 AM
@SmokeDetector edited
 
6:02 AM
Hum: some people are trying to get the following question closed because it's "part of an ongoing contest". I feel it's not a valid reason, and maybe we shouldn't close it? More efficient way of finding maximum size of correct sub-size chessboard
 
@Cœur That it's part of an ongoing contest should not matter to SO wrt. it being open, although some people will feel it inappropriate to answer. However, the question is both unclear and too broad, IMO.
 
OK, then I'll refrain to vote for reopening.
 
Hi folks, I just found this question and want to comment/answer it.

can anyone help me undelete it? closed for being "abandoned", otherwise good question
 
@pkamb that's not closed; it's deleted. How'd you manage to find a deleted question?
 
err sorry deleted. Found via a forum link
 
6:10 AM
you might want to tag [tag:undelete-pls]
 
@tripleee @pkamb already undeleted
 
thanks
 
though I only see one earlier occurrence of this tag, from 3 years ago (!)
 
for future reference, does my "undelete" vote put that into any kind of queue?
or does it require random voters to also find it?
 
@pkamb yes: the recently undelete votes: stackoverflow.com/tools?tab=Delete&daterange=last2days
 
@SmokeDetector wha-ah? Wall of text?
 
7:01 AM
 
7:45 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto we don't moderate users and linking to userprofiles is strictly prohibited by the room rules. Please refrain from doing this in the future.
 
@rene Um... Every cv-pls request coming from the scripts contains a link to the user profile...
 
@RobbyCornelissen it has but that is still about the content of the post. Plain links to user profiles are simply off-limits.
We're not Stack Overflow Witch Hunters
 
@rene Hm... are you mentioning point #20 in FAQ? I don't specifically target users to CV all of his low-quality questions, I just want to mention that corresponding user spamming same link in multiple answers and should be handled immediately.
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto nothing we can do about that; mod flag and the mods will take care of it
 
8:01 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto when brought up on Meta that subtle nuance is lost. The agreement between CM and mod team is that this room doesn't moderate users and to enforce that we disallow links that point to user profiles with the request to go look for trouble. The only expection is when a moderator post such request to assist in flagging plagiarism.
@RobbyCornelissen see also topic 3 in the august 2016 room meeting: socvr.org/room-info/room-meetings/2016-08
 
@rene Well, I just found this when searching for all-spam related transcript. Problem solved.
 
@rene I understand, and agree with the chosen direction. I was just pointing out that if "linking to userprofiles is strictly prohibited", then everyone using the user scripts is in violation.
 
@RobbyCornelissen Yeah, I could have expressed my self more clearly but meh
waffles
 
8:32 AM
(old ^, has an answer that points out it's a duplicate.)
 
8:49 AM
@SmokeDetector I think some trolling is going on
 
9:00 AM
@Vega WHat does NATO stand for?
 
New Answer To Old question
 
Thank you @Luuklag
 
@RiggsFolly New answer to Old question
 
Thanks
 
We should make a bot that spams this reply whenever someone asks ;)
 
9:03 AM
What yours or mine saying thanks
 
9:17 AM
What should I type to find questiins that aren't closed? is:open ?
 
advanced search seems to have closed:yes as an example so I'm guessing closed:no does the opposite
 
Thx!
 
9:32 AM
@RiggsFolly You are welcome. I found out a few days ago what GMTC was. Before I thought it was linked to GMT, an other way to say it was a recent post but wasn't convinced until payed more attention :)
 
@Vega Just had to look thats one up too, but now I know two new Acronyms ... always learning :)
 
10:17 AM
Some NAA flags are approved but the posts are not deleted, what causes that? Can we do something?
 
@Vega maybe they were marked helpful by the LQP queue but the post was undeleted by the OP? check out the timeline
if that is indeed what happened you can ask here for a reflag-pls
 
10:41 AM
@StephenKennedy Does answers have a separate timeline from the question?
 
@StephenKennedy Thank you! It was indeed undeleted by the user
 
11:13 AM
@Vega Tunaki made some useful stuff for that github.com/Tunaki/stackoverflow-userscripts, the timeline userscript (add link to timeline under Q and A) + the reflag scripts check in your flag history what needs to be reflagged :) have fun
 
more like trivial syntax error
 
11:52 AM
@PetterFriberg Those are useful for sure, thank you! :)
 
Havent come across in SO.. yet... but good to know photo.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5802/…
 
there were a couple of those today, they all linked to a site which currently doesn't exist in DNS. I blacklisted it in SmokeDetector anyway
 
Ron
o/
 
12:24 PM
waffle
 
Morning
 
1:28 PM
Whoah... remind me to never ask a JS/CSS question again... that was my first and my last. No comments, no close votes, but a flow of downvotes, leaving me clueless. That's not welcoming nor helping.
 
@Cœur My guess is you haven't really described your problem well
You're talking in reference to the effect rather than in reference to what the code is actually doing
 
!!/blame
 
@StephenKennedy It's Cerbrus's fault.
 
@TylerH I count just 20 lines of JS, two animations doing a simple vertical translation.
 
@Cœur Code != explanation
 
1:36 PM
@FireAlarm Your problem statement is poorly worded and vague
 
@StephenKennedy did you mean to @ firealarm there?
 
no
I meant @Cœur, sorry
 
@StephenKennedy It's TylerH's fault.
 
@Cœur You mention you have "sizing issues" when the window is quite large or quite small. What do you mean by "sizing issues"? Is it off center? Does it not respect scaling? What is the range where it works? e.g. it starts breaking at viewports > 1024px and < 400px? Or where?
For starters
 
@TylerH Hum so you happen to see the animation well when running the snippet? But I can admit that, WITHOUT running the snippet, the problem isn't clear.
 
1:40 PM
@Cœur I do see the animation (and I'm familiar with the Banksy incident) though it doesn't actually shred in the Snippet for me; that may be because I"m on Firefox
still, even visiting the CodePen doesn't make up for the fact that you're missing a clear, detailed explanation of the problem in words
 
and explain what "the shredding" is before you ask how to fix it
 
the demo works for me, full screen on a laptop 1920x1080, chrome, windows 10. [and what a stunt Banksy pulled off! love it! :)]
 
If you mean cutting up a picture, that's certainly fake
 
@Cœur To be clear, I don't have any idea how to fix your actual coding issue as I don't know anything about vue or the other libraries you're using, but at first glance these are my impressions on why you got downvoted 4 times
 
1:44 PM
@TylerH OK. I didn't know wasn't working on Firefox. Well, thank you for the feedback, TylerH. I was just hoping that some of the downvoters would have done the same: there is NO IMPROVEMENT POSSIBLE with only downvotes.
 
@Cœur Yeah, I may downvote silently if a question is unclear at times but almost never bother downvoting a question that's already negative. At that point it is just depressing for the asker
 
@TylerH You shouldn't base your vote on the current score
 
@JohnDvorak I don't, I base it on many things
 
I don't mean "just", but "at all"
 
@Cœur I have offered an edit to try and improve things a bit; the edit description also has a bit more information
@JohnDvorak Then you're wrong; users may vote however they see fit
 
1:47 PM
@TylerH 5 downvotes. Anyway, it was just for a quick joke attempt with my colleagues: I'll delete the question and leave JS animations to professionals.
 
@TylerH but shouldn't
 
@JohnDvorak If you disagree then please post a feature request on meta to disallow voting for reasons you disagree with
 
That would be unenforceable.
 
So you see it is useless to try and tell people how to vote
 
@TylerH Oh, too nice. I'll leave it visible then.
 
1:49 PM
Are you going to ignore good practices just because you don't get punished for doing so?
 
@JohnDvorak I believe my considerations when voting are good practice
@JohnDvorak I vote primarily based on the quality of the question and the effort OP has put in. However, the current score as well as who OP is (and what I know of their knowledge and skill level) also have an effect on how I vote
 
Are you asking me for a meta post saying it's a bad practice then?
 
No, I'm saying you're wrong in how you think about voting and you're also wrong to try and tell someone how the yshould be voting
 
You're wrong in saying that I'm wrong. Let's not dig deeper into this line of speaking, shall we?
 
I will also sometimes vote based on the status of the question in the system; if for example I see a bad audit, I will usually downvote/close vote it so that it can enjoy the outcome I think appropriate
@JohnDvorak Nah, you can say someone's wrong because it's your opinion, but telling them they should change how they vote is a different matter. I'm not saying you should change how you vote
 
1:53 PM
I'm fine with voting to invalidate audits
 
If you want my opinion on votes:
(1) don't upvote out of pity. (2) don't waste downvotes on an already doomed negative scored post. (3) as much as possible, hint with a comment at what to improve.
 
Tyler is right everybody just vote as you wish... no questions asked, I just hope people vote to improve SO and not for other reasons
 
I agree with 1; 2 makes sense but it's rather close to 1; 3 is dangerous practice as enough askers are of the vengeful kind and use your comment as a proof you downvoted and they can now go on their punishment spree.
 
@JohnDvorak I don't see how it's different from having our name frequently listed among the close voters of many questions. Or our name visible from auto-comments generated by reviewing.
 
At any rate, I vote based on fairly comprehensive and nuanced reasons. No one will ever convince me that less comprehensive and less nuanced is right. Of course it's hard/impossible to enforce/expect that in aggregate, though, and I would not expect SO to rule one way or the other as a system level rule, and they wisely know not to try. It's much simpler to just sum it up with "vote based on quality".
 
1:58 PM
@Cœur In the CV case you're one out of five. And you're not pingable. And downvote sprees still happen.
 
@Cœur The stack snippet doesn't seem to shred the painting for me in Chrome, either
 
I try to leave helpful comments, even when down voting. It doesn't bother me if someone thinks I down voted them when I didn't and seeks revenge. They are just imaginary internet points.
 
The codepen shreds correctly for me in both FF and Chrome
 
I agree about not caring about revenge points, but it's still a time I don't want to spend on dime a dozen questions where it's not easy to even find signs of effort from the asker, or in cases where the asker has apparently missed that software requests are banned from the site.
 
I got to go for the night. Thank you all for the feedback.
 
2:11 PM
Best of luck with your issue
 
Ron
Is some profanity allowed in chat groups?
I am seeing an automated notification on a bad word in another chat group.
 
@Ron As far as I know, no chat flags are raised automatically.
 
Ron
I see.
I didn't vote on that one.
That's 10K for you.
@DalijaPrasnikar What's the goto Delphi forum these days?
 
@Ron Shog and others (Jon Ericson, I think) have said to be mature about conversation, e.g. dropping some 'curse words' here or there is forgivable in some contexts. However, the rule is that if something is offensive, it's flaggable. It's a bit murky
Some rooms have a lot of cursing in them (the old lounge, the JS room, probably some others)
 
Ron
I see. Appreciate it.
 
2:57 PM
also note most of the time they are used sarcastically
 
At the very least, it is expected that people who are not regulars in a room refrain from flagging stuff they find offensive, if at all possible
 
Ron
What about voting?
I clicked on a notification but did not vote on it.
 
they will disappear after some time
 
@Ron if you're not sure, click 'not sure'
 
Ron
I see. Thanks.
There was a "yes" "no" option only.
 
3:00 PM
On a chat flag? I have always seen "not sure" as an option...
 
@Ron Expletives (cursing, swear words, and vulgar language) are not permitted on SE. It's unclear what, exactly, is permitted in chat. Chat is under the CoC, so if it violates that, then it's definitely flagable.
 
maybe that option comes at a certain reputation level...
@Makyen They have reiterated a few times that the CoC applies to chat as well, FWIW
 
Ron
All clear
 
@Ron The chat flagging dialog has "valid", "invalid", and "not sure", IIRC.
 
And all the CoC talk is newer than any of the posts that say "be mature and considerate about rooms with existing culture/mature conversations", etc., so it probably supersedes those old statements
 
3:02 PM
@TylerH I believe I said that.
 
@Makyen Yeah, I hit submit before I read your last sentence. Was responding to the "it's unclear" sentence
 
Ahh. OK.
 
Ron
@Makyen I got a small notification when I entered a chat zone, clicked on it and was offered a chat line and an option if this was spam/offensive or not.
That was all. The first time I saw this.
 
@Ron Hmmm... Interesting. I don't recall seeing that one. I've only seen the blue, badge-like notification on your own avatar/gravatar near the input box (with # of flags), along with the popup that opens from that, and the page that opens if you click on one of the links in the popup.
Along with the blue marker in transcripts, which isn't clickable, IIRC.
 
Ron
I hope this is not some disguised QueenBee plot. Again ;)
 
@Ron its a 10k feature
 
3:42 PM
@ColdFire srsly? Why did nobody tell me ....
 
@rene I thought the Netherlands permanently switched to UGT years ago
 
0_o
 
3:56 PM
!!/coffee
 
@E_net4 brews a cup of Affogato for @E_net4
 
Zoe
make up your minds smokeys >.<
 
Go home, Smokey. You're drunk
 
Quantum Smokey. Superpositioned into reality.
 
@E_net4 I left you a coffee
 
Zoe
3:58 PM
Instances fixed at least. But MS is dead
 
@Machavity I hope it wasn't the Americano.
 
MS was dead earlier. Am surprised nobody told Undo earlier. iBug was messing with it
 
Zoe
That explains why AIM's been complaining
 
what is AIM? (other than AOL Instant Messenger)
 
@StephenKennedy AIM (GitHub) (install) is a userscript that adds some additional information about SD/MS reports (feedbacks, weight, autoflagging status) inline with the chat message.
 
4:05 PM
@Makyen oh I see. Ty.
 
np
 
4:16 PM
@StephenKennedy It is the direct association I have when the userscript reports an error. I always need a context switch before I realize what is wrong ....
 
What's the error? "You got mail"?
 
@rene maybe because flowers doesnt listen?
 
check
 
@gunr2171 Somewhere, a Gmail engineer screams
 
Ron
Issues a !!/blame command and runs away.
Derp.
 
4:30 PM
Hurr.
 
Ron
!!/blame
 
@Ron It's tripleee's fault.
 
Ron
Hmmm, why can't I ping @Nkosi?
 
because reasons
 
Ron
@rene TY.
 
4:54 PM
@NathanOliver Your last CV goes back up the chain to this question. Is that off-topic as well?
 
Yes
There we go wipes hands off
 
6:12 PM
ahh @Ron Welcome to 10k
5
 
6:30 PM
 
potential dumb question, did SE lower the rep requirement for making comments?
 
Nope. Or if they did they didn't document it, which wouldn't surprise me.
 
@S.JERRARI you have less than 50 rep, how are you able to comment? — gunr2171 3 mins ago
User has 1 rep
and they're not the OP
 
Doesn't look like the posted the comment, then bountied/got DVed/got banned away
 
well the comment showed up 3 minutes after the question got asked, and the question is right now 8 minutes old
so if something happened it happened quick
granted, the user has 2 other 0-vote answers, so that why they have no rep
 
6:42 PM
Mod converted an answer into a comment? There isn't a deleted answer though and I don't know if that actually completely gets rid of the answer or not.
 
I didn't even see a notification about a new answer on the page
can the system do that automatically?
 
well, some of the mods are ninjas ;)
 
oh, well now there's a deleted post directly answering me
so I'm going to guess that the system did indeed automatically convert it to a comment
 
Answer to comment happens when someone answers (not necessarily a lowrep) with a short answer and a link.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Cool
 
6:44 PM
Happened to me once
I think it must be a link from SO, not sure
 
@gunr2171 they sort-of proved it with their currently deleted answer
 
I'm not sure if the system should do that for <50 rep people (or even <10 rep), but whatevs....I'm off to a meeting
 
that gives the ability to lowrep to comment with SO links, helps other to find duplicates maybe. Not really a bad thing.
also avoids a lot of manual VLQ flagging
 
user4639281
I spent way to much time researching that meta answer.
 
7:00 PM
wrong dupe reason doesn't justify reopening. Let a gold badge owner change the "original" of the dupe no need to waste votes
 
@TinyGiant Yeah, that looks like it was quite a bit of work. When answering, I've often gone: "this should be quick", then had it take quite a bit of time to write up a good answer.
 
user4639281
@Makyen I thought there would be more information, there just wasn't.
 
@RalphTorello If the dupe is wrong, that can be fixed without a reopen. Only vote to reopen if you think it's not a dupe at all
 
user9654671
7:53 PM
@Machavity No, It's definitely an "incorrect dupe" - there aren't any Stack Overflow posts what-so-ever about foreign language characters. I know this very well, because I've been programming them for 3 years, and see posts about it once every few months. Click "Stack-Overflow" "Hebrew" "Regular Expressions" - it is definitely not a dupe.
 
8:06 PM
@SotiriosDelimanolis Can you take a look at this request? You're a Java hammer and might be able to clear things up. I don't know enough Java to vote either way
 
@RalphTorello If you really think that "there aren't any Stack Overflow posts what-so-ever about foreign language characters", then you've missed quite a bit. While I haven't gone searching for them recently, questions about non-ASCI characters certainly exist.
@RalphTorello While the dup-target doesn't spoon-feed the code that the duplicate author wants to them, there is an answer which provides a regex that does exactly what that OP has requested (with the possible need to add additional acceptable ASCII characters to the list in the regex, but the OP isn't sufficiently specific, so we can't know their requirement exactly).
 
9:15 PM
The austrians and the DGPR, that's so feckin' funny: facebook.com/tagesschau/photos/a.10151270623184407/…
:D
 
9:43 PM
@NathanOliver The question this request is about is now at 4 close-votes, without any votes for duplicates. If you really want this closed as a duplicate, then I suggest you retract your CV and try to find a different gold badge holder to hammer it.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Is your hammer available?
 
@NathanOliver Still, yes. Depends if I didn't went for a close vote already.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Can you check this? See my second comment and the OP's response.
 
Just give me something to my anvil
 
@Makyen I'll let πάντα ῥεῖ handle it if he wants to. Otherwise regular closure is fine. In truth it just needs to go so non dupe might be better since it will get roomba'd that way.
 
9:49 PM
@NathanOliver Up to you two. Looks like it's closed as dup at this point.
 
I wanted to handle it. The proposals seem to be appropriate measured regarding the current question quality.
 
Yep.
It'll be fine
 
A dupe closure at least carries more information than any other close reasons (the question only needed one more at that point). I believe that's better regarding general usefulness, so I did.
It's a bit like the information paradox appearing with stuff going to black holse :3
What I don't like that well, are the recently increasing proposals of What is a debugger and how can it help me diagnose problems? as a duplicate. I of course see why these are increasing season based, but prefer to go for the regular close reasons like missing MCVE, too broad, etc.
 
@sideshowbarker You don't have a blink of decency with wrecking trains, do you?
:)
 
10:16 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ @πάνταῥεῖ not sure what the context is but maybe you’re referring to my profile photo? gist.githubusercontent.com/sideshowbarker/8284404/raw/…
 
@sideshowbarker LOL no I didn't actually notice that yet. That was just a joke you were interfering my recent contiguous messages about a particular topic. No worries :-D
 
@πάνταῥεῖ :)
 
@sideshowbarker Regarding your avatar, is that a regular cigarette or a spliff?
 
definitely not a regular cigarette 😋
 
< Searches the >thumbs up< unicode ...
 
 
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11:25 PM
Hello, I'm new here!
 
Howdy @AndrewK
 
@sideshowbarker Hello! :)
 
@AndrewK o/
@AndrewK You should probably be noticed: We have no fun :P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ No fun? Why?
I'm just reading up what this channel is all about :)
 
@AndrewK Grumpy flowers, meetings all over, etc. :3
@AndrewK Well the chat room is about what the title says. Discussion about close worthy SO questions. Requests for closing or deleting SO questions. There's a FAQ you might want to read.
 
11:33 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Thanks for the heads up. What is 'cv'? or rather, what is a close vote?
 
@AndrewK It's an acronym for close vote. That's a 3k+ privilege. In the simplest form 5 users can put a question [on hold], deciding it is off-topic.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ That's above my pay grade then! :) I guess I'll come back here when I'm closer to 3K :)
 
@AndrewK Good idea. Though that's not necessarily a reason to stay away from this chat room.
 
hehe, I hear that and appreciate the welcomeness! I got here because SO recommended it via the right panel.
 
Good close proposals would be welcome, regardless of the requesters privileges.
 
11:41 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ Will keep that in mind!
I'm off now, have to jump back to work! :)
Have a wonderful day (or night) everyone!
 
@AndrewK Sure! Appreciate to see you another day.
 

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