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user9169574
12:00 AM
@Baum "They are not yet reviewed." Yeah, that's what's told me. Can I ask here to force a review? I've been noticed about this chat room, and the established protocol for [tag:cv-pls] off-site.
 
@0xDEADBEEF You can generally not force reviews. They happen when they happen.
The rules for cv-pls can be found at socvr.org
 
user9169574
@BaummitAugen Yeah, I've inspected that before joining in here. THX for reminding.
 
user4639281
@0xDEADBEEF We have fairly specific criteria for when a close vote request is allowed, all of this is listed under #11 over on the socvr.org FAQ
 
user9169574
@TinyGiant My doubts were more about my privileges, and if it's OK to ask, if you're only allowed to flag questions.
 
Nov 13 '17 at 17:05, by rene
I suggest you get some more rep first @AllAmericanProgrammer and lurk a lot before you actively start posting requests here, 1000 rep is kind of what we expect you to aim for, as stated in our FAQ
 
user4639281
12:11 AM
@0xDEADBEEF It seems fairly clear to me what the misconception is there. It could use some editing to clarify, but I don't see that as needing to be closed. Then again, I'm not a C[,++,#] person.
 
user9169574
Another question: Will my flag be automatically be marked as helpful if the post in question is closed or removed for moderation reasons?
 
user4639281
@0xDEADBEEF I'm not sure what you mean there. We expect users to have a minimum of 1000 reputation points before requesting moderation actions in here, and users with less rep than is necessary to perform the said action should generally keep their requesting to a minimum (i.e. if you don't have the close vote privilege, you should rarely request close votes)
 
user9169574
@TinyGiant I see, thank you for clarification. I'll surely keep that to a minimum here.
 
user4639281
@0xDEADBEEF As for flag resolution: if the post is closed for the reason you flagged it for, (or if it is deleted IIRC), the flag will be marked helpful. If the post ages out of the close vote queue, it will be marked as aged away. If the post is closed for a reason other than what you flagged it for, the flag will be disputed.
 
user9169574
12:37 AM
Sorry if I broke any rules here regarding my recent [tag:cv-pls] request. I hope I'm still welcome for discussions about flagging.
 
user9169574
@Tiny That post you have so prominently in your profile actually made me laugh :-D. It seems quite hitting the nail(s)!
 
1:01 AM
@0xDEADBEEF And the nice thing about flags: the more you use them properly, the more you get.
 
user9169574
@Mogsdad What do you mean? Should I generally avoid to flag posts? There seem to be most of the incoming questions being inappropriate regarding what I've read about the Stack Overflow site policies so far.
 
@0xDEADBEEF I mean: you should flag posts that deserve it. As you have flags marked "helpful", you will earn more flags, up to a max of 100/day. That said, you can do a lot more good by increasing rep to earn privileges.
 
user9169574
@Mogsdad Ah, cool :-D ...
 
Some folks here taking flagging very seriously... AFTER we've run out of every more effective way of curating.
 
user9169574
After using Stack Overflow as a good resource for my daily work over many years now, I've been a bit annoyed about the increasing diffuse cloud of unuseful Q&A's here recently, and decided to participate actively.
 
user9169574
1:13 AM
I hope I'm doing good in sharing my knowledge here. Most of the questions are already answered anyways it seems.
 
That's true, esp in big tags.
 
user9169574
@BaummitAugen I'm not so sure if there could be good duplicates found for those answers I tried to give. Hitting some niche problems maybe :-/ ...
 
user9169574
Sometimes if you're going to watch the newest question tab filtered with the tag, it just looks like "mud" or unreflected homework question dumps. If that's what you meant with big tags.
 
@0xDEADBEEF is relatively big, yeah.
 
Frequent the C++ lounge. The tag dump will become much more palatable
 
1:25 AM
A lot of garbage, some problems too specific for me to care, and a ton of dupes. The gems are rare. XD
 
You want to dig below the Y-level 10
 
user9169574
@JohnDvorak I've been watching out there a bit. I don't get that frequent haskell stuff there ...
 
@JohnDvorak What's that?
 
user9169574
@BaummitAugen Quake maybe :-P ...
 
user4639281
@0xDEADBEEF That isn't anything new.
 
1:28 AM
Y-level 16; sorry
 
@0xDEADBEEF Never played that. My nerd-knowledge has significant holes. XD
 
user9169574
@Baum Maybe Trees are allergic to chainsaws :-P ...
 
user4639281
@JohnDvorak That's a loaded statement if I ever did see one.
 
@JohnDvorak Ah ok. =D
@0xDEADBEEF We try to avoid those.
 
user9169574
@TinyGiant So was that a good decision at least?
 
1:30 AM
Sadly, we are quite bad at running away.
 
user4639281
@0xDEADBEEF What decision is that?
 
user9169574
@TinyGiant To join you talking at a street restaurant having a poutine and if it's a good idea to actively join Stack Overflow dude!
 
user9169574
@BaummitAugen Yeah! Roots are heavy things :-P
 
user4639281
Well, poutine is always a good idea, soo.... As for joining Stack Overflow, that's ultimately up to you. Just don't get bogged down in the small stuff, remember that if no one is ever going to see something, it is probably better left alone, and focusing your energy on problems you can actually solve can prevent a lot of headaches and frustration.
 
user4639281
@0xDEADBEEF This is probably the most important meta post I could point you to (I may be biased, I wrote it), though there are countless more that are important as well.
 
user9169574
1:41 AM
@TinyGiant Seems that my answers hit some niche (make), which is also frequented with the tag commonly.
 
user4639281
Well, niche tags are the best way to go, so long as they are not so niche that you are the only contributor. It's actually much more difficult to gain rep in any of the larger tags, or even find interesting questions to answer for that matter.
 
Bah, if you know some semi-common dupes, you can probably earn 100-200 rep / day fairly easily by outrunning the Mjolnirs in the bigger tags.
 
user9169574
@TinyGiant Yeah! You really need to put some extraordinary and awesome gravy on top!
 
I guess dodging the hammer. :)
 
Even more effective when you get a hammer yourself and can reopen to answer. XD
 
user4639281
1:47 AM
@BaummitAugen Well, I mean, without answering obvious dupes.
 
@TinyGiant Ok, with that and a distaste for interactive debugging, stuff does get a lot harder.
 
user4639281
@BaummitAugen yuck, I hate debugging questions.
 
user4639281
Unless its a weird gotcha or something like that.
 
But debugging loves you. Why else do you think it hangs around so much.
 
user4639281
:P
 
1:50 AM
@TinyGiant Me too.
 
It's like an ex who didn't get the memo.
 
@TinyGiant Probably a dupe in . Some are interesting and new though.
 
user4639281
Well, yeah. There isn't really any new gotchas, maybe some new ways of finding them.
 
Depends on what counts as gotchas. You could probably get quite a bit of rep from going through the list of open standard defects, get to compilers to disagree and watch the language-lawyers stare at the standard in confusion actually. =D
Even if someone knows it's a defect, that still tends to be well received.
 
user9169574
@TinyGiant Many of the questions appearing in the tag are just solvable by stepping through the code using the debugger. And almost every time these are asked by newbie students. I actually have no clue (as well for other programming languages), why that stuff isn't taught in the very 1st lecture by every serious professor/teacher. Leaving your pupils behind, certainly is a bad teaching concept.
 
user4639281
2:01 AM
@0xDEADBEEF It is, they just didn't pay attention.
 
user9169574
In Meta Stack Overflow I saw that site mentioned recently: idownvotedbecau.se It contains some reasonable and constructive explanation regarding the "debugging".
 
user9169574
@TinyGiant No! Not really. I believe the 1st lecture for any programming language should be a live debugging session presented by the teacher and every step of the 6-8 "Hello World!" code lines explained in detail as most as possible. Otherwise these guys just don't deserve their salary :-P ...
 
And a 2K rep poster no less (?)
 
 
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4:27 AM
How can I use the CV-PLS userscript to send requests other than close and reopen?
 
5:23 AM
@iBug Basically, wait for the next version, which supports all types of requests. I'm planning on a beta in the next few days.
 
 
1 hour later…
6:30 AM
@techraf Please slow down a bit on the cv-pls requests. Over the last day, you've posted 22 requests. That's too many. Generally, you should vote on an average of 4x as many cv-pls requests from other people as you post. This system breaks down if we don't have people also servicing requests (each takes 4 other votes). Assuming you're CVing your own cv-pls requests and use all your remaining CV on other cv-pls requests, that works out to posting an average of 10 cv-pls requests/day.
Some days you may be over that average, some days under. It doesn't need to be exact. There isn't an explicit hard limit. However, there needs to be a balance. Please read the FAQ, particularly #11.
 
@Makyen Roger, had some time and these were at the top of the tags I follow.
 
@techraf I really know how that goes. Unfortunately, SE has kept the closure system such that we (both here in SOCVR and the SO community in general) can't close all the questions which should to be closed. We must prioritize.
 
Enough for today.
 
Once again, I need to ask you to refrain from posting answers to questions which are clearly off-topic for Stack Overflow. And once again, I'm urging you to clarify your mission here by posting on Meta Stack Overflow to explain what your employer has tasked you with and checking whether this is really in harmony with the Stack Overflow policies. — tripleee 3 mins ago
I'm not sure what to do about that ^ but I'm vaguely uncomfortable with the idea that a large corporation is encouraging off-topic content on Stack Overflow by actively answering support questions which are not directly related to programming
 
Is there anything we shall do with this post or is it for >20k only?
 
7:38 AM
@techraf I flagged it as NAA
 
@techraf huh? that's a regular cv-pls
 
@tripleee What I've seen so far is a few Meta posts intended to give SE a heads-up that this sort of thing is happening with a specific organization. Generally, one issue has been that the company/organization has, in some way, encouraged users to use SO as a support forum w/o regard to questions being on-topic. The typical response is that SE will try to contact the company to encourage them to support questions being on-topic for SO.
 
@tripleee no, it's an answer
 
@tripleee cv-pls for an answer?
 
sry, clicking the link took me somewhere strange
the domain in the answer was put on Smoke Detector's watchlist earlier today by yours truly because the apparent domain owner was recently spamming answers with a link there, but this seems to be unrelated
 
7:40 AM
@tripleee well, I already flagged NAA (as it is not an answer, just a things saying "use this"), so I guess that's that, unless you want to delete vote
 
the "potentially bad keyword" alert from SmokeDetector should not be reported here, I guess the requirement was lost when the chat code was refactored
so short answer, please ignore
 
@techraf Are you asking specifically about the answer referenced in that message, or are you asking what SmokeDetector (SD) is and what should be done with SD reports?
 
@Makyen I was asking about the answer. There was a conversation here earlier on about web-based solutions being no no. I don't think LQ reviewers know about that. So the only reason for it being here would be a deletion request (that's why I asked about >20k)
 
@techraf Smoke Detector simply posts its reports here if nobody in Charcoal provided feedback within a timeout (IIRC a few minutes) to get more eyeballs
when we introduced the watchlist functionality last May, we agreed that those should not be posted here (I don't recall if SOCVR was involved in the discussion or if that was decided in Charcoal) but like I mentioned above, the entire chat code base was revamped a few weeks ago and it seems that this particular requirement was lost
 
@tripleee Understood. So the answer to my question was "think and make a decision".
 
7:51 AM
"watched" is like "blacklisted" but more experimental/speculative so we can get early warnings and/or more data to decide whether or not to actually blacklist something
@techraf my response was "please ignore" but yeah
and sorry for getting mixed up with the link before being able to respond properly
 
@techraf By conversation, do you mean the Meta post: Does suggesting to use a web application as solution count as spam?. I'd say the jury is still out wrt. the general case, and is largely situation dependent (e.g. do they really answer the question, do they provide enough info such that it's significantly more than "use this site", etc.).
 
@Makyen Yes, I meant that. That's why I could not locate it, I was searching here. Now I remembered it was in a comment under one of the spam answers earlier.
 
8:06 AM
As to what those of us with <20k rep can do about answers: We can flag as VLQ or NAA. If we want to do more, we can wait several minutes and look up the review for that answer in the LQP queue and "Recommend Deletion".
 
1 message moved from SOCVR Request Graveyard
 
8:46 AM
Hiya \o
 
/o
 
9:30 AM
another Azure engineer, though this answer is fine per se stackoverflow.com/a/48110578/874188
 
9:57 AM
FYI github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/issues/1455 <- re the experimental reasons being reported here
 
10:43 AM
Unfortunately (or not) we have a limited number of close votes per day so we have to prioritize. I just happened to see this one when I opened the Stack Overflow start page a few hours ago. If you would like to help improve the site quality, maybe visit the Stack Overflow Close Vote Room on chattripleee 6 mins ago
please welcome the guy if he actually turns up here (-:
 
11:02 AM
That loop over csv for scraping seems like it's also the same question as this: stackoverflow.com/questions/48111629/…, just from another fresh account.
 
11:21 AM
@Queen: Interesting. Do you know how well it works?
 
Welcome klutt, you have been added as Reviewer, standby executing your command
 
 
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12:34 PM
 
12:51 PM
^ one of the many bizarre behaviors I have seen.. vandalize the post just before deleting... Both low rep and high rep users do this.
 
plagiarized answers should apparently not be reported here, is that correct? there was a discussion in Charcoal just now
 
they'd better be custom mod. flags I guess
 
1:22 PM
@MartinJames be happy it is not a code-golfed one-liner ....
 
@rene lol, you mean like 'printf("%c",++**++argv);' ?
 
@tripleee nope, you can just flag them. If a mod needs help going over all posts on a userprofile they are allowed to post a request here.
@MartinJames No, that is still readable ... ;)
 
1:56 PM
I shouldn't have to put a disclaimer when commenting that I was not the one who down voted. sucks.
OP asks why people down voted. I made a suggestion about how to improve the question. and wham. I don't believe in coincidences. lol.
sigh. rant over.
in fact you would think a high rep user would already know that.
sigh. ok now I'm done. lol
funny enough it reminds me of something someone in the room once said.
*If you are not getting revenge voted, then you are not doing your job* lol
 
@Nkosi You could always grab your torch and pitchfork (10k link)
 
@Machavity
btw where is @NathanOliver ? also where is @Sam and @KevinGuan
 
@Machavity lol. yeah. such a world we live in.
 
@kayess I'll do you one better. Meta about why another Meta was deleted
@kayess We had to take Sam offline after Closey corrupted him. I think Petter will fix him someday
 
lolol
 
2:19 PM
@kayess under 30 feet of snow ...
 
@rene use meter-pls
 
@kayess under 30 meters of snow ...
3
Happy now?
 
@rene not because it's meter s
 
Giant S coming your way ...
 
lolol, not Sam again : (
 
2:26 PM
@rene What's the conversion rate between metre and meter?
 
@robinCTS 1:1 probably
 
@kayess Is that exact or only approximate?
 
@robinCTS literally exactly
 
probably exact
 
Close enough for all practical purposes.
 
2:33 PM
@rene So, like 20,000 leagues under the sea...
 
OK. So assuming metre:meter is probably, literally, for all practical purposes, exactly 1:1, and assuming feet:meter is approximately 1:1, then that would be 30 metres of snow. Approximately.
 
@robinCTS actually you have to look at the kerning differences between tre and ter
 
Here's your Friday Fun Query. Hint: it's NOT a Rick-ROLL.
2
 
unless of course you assume that you are using a proportional font
 
ALERT: LINK CONTAINS RICK
 
2:35 PM
@TylerH Oh, snap! I knew I'd forgotten something! Maybe.
 
@Mogsdad Never gonna give that up, huh? What a let down
 
@Machavity Never gonna turn around and desert you.
@kayess de·sert
dəˈzərt
verb
abandon (a person, cause, or organization) in a way considered disloyal or treacherous.
"Rick Astley will never turn around and desert you."
synonyms: abandon, leave, turn one's back on;
 
@Mogsdad Rick Astley would totally buy kayess dessert
 
Even in the forest.
A simpler version of FireAlarm would just send that alert for EVERY question.
 
2:52 PM
Interesting comment conversation as well. :/
 
@Mogsdad sorry I rick-ruined your fun :-(
 
@TylerH "Tom Sawyer" someone into fixing a bunch of funny spelling mistakes. Mission Accomplished.
Now, How about this set of porblems?
 
@Mogsdad They are porbably just typos?
 
How about being a jack**s?
 
@Olaf Nah, I'm pretty sure users purposely do that just to tick me off.
 
3:06 PM
Also bullcarp seems to be popular : ( ex.: in NAA's like this
 
I received an unusual comment in a question that reads: "I posted Windows 8 Pro serial key in my question. What are you going to do now?"
any idea why the OP would state this or do this?
I'll add that the poster was a bit disgruntled at me and others for down-voting his question (after begging for up-votes).
 
cv/del-pls ?
 
mod flag -> suspension?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels that is odd, but I would flag for moderators to redact the revisions that had it
 
3:11 PM
they can do it but it takes two moderators
@Mogsdad sorry, my limit is 25 per day
 
I rolled it back. Thanks.
But I'm still curious, why would he post the windows 8 pro key? What would he gain by doing this?
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels was it intentional?
 
Yes. Is he trying to get the site in trouble with Microsoft? Could that be his motivation?
 
I flagged for mod attention
I'm not high enough rep to delete vote it so soon after closure
 
He understands that even if deleted, the edits will be viewable by 10K rep members. So he's not a newbie to the site, and is likely using a different user ID.
 
3:21 PM
at the very least the key was not added in plaintext and is in an old revision... just so weird though
 
@Mogsdad Sure. Just because you're paranioid does not mean they are not after you ;-)
 
Someone pls remove my last cvplz, OP edited
 
@TylerH I helped get rid of it. WTF is up with that user?
 
dunno, but it's gone now and mods are aware of it
 
mod flag successful?
 
3:27 PM
@MartinJames: he posted a non-SO question that was appropriately closed. It was also for some reason down-voted, and that caused him to go off the rails (a single DV) and to beg folks in comment to UV the question.
That brought attention to the Queen in the robotics site, and then more DV's. I have no idea why he posted the MS Win key, perhaps to try to get the site in trouble with MS, but I don't think that this would do that. He was aware of 10K rep allowing folks to view past edits, so he's not a new user, just a new ID. I'm betting that he is Q-banned and that this is why the single DV upset him.
 
@HovercraftFullOfEels Weird user:(
 
ninja'd
 
@MartinJames Indeed
 
not-being-able-to-insert-form-data-into-mysql-table-using-php-despite-doing-ever - typo (see comment below the question)
 
@Shadow nincs link :(
 
3:37 PM
koszi @kayess :)
 
@Shadow yw and HNY : )
 
viszont :)
 
smashes a fruit into his face
 
@Compass Dang low carb diets
 
3:44 PM
hmmm
i wonder if that would actually feel refreshing or disgusting
a cold slushy orange on a summer day right into my face
 
@kayess it was marked as helpful at least, and a mod made a rollback at one point
dunno if they will pursue any other actions
 
Hmm, is there any value in NAA-ing this self-answer?
 
4:01 PM
@Machavity tough call. I would say it's sort of an answer because the guy describes his workaround but it's also not an answer because it's just him saying "I gave up and did it a different way"
I'd say leave it, doesn't seem like the kind of question that would attract much attention anyway
 
@kayess Cryptoloot one?
 
4:18 PM
chango
 
Shave and a haircut...
 
@TinyGiant Yeah?
Plop everyone
 
@Mogsdad I should shave soon, but I am getting a haircut in a bit
@PaulStenne o/
 
@Mogsdad danke schön
 
@Mogsdad I'm not so sure about stackoverflow.com/questions/25713406/…
It's asking for the possible inputs but not for an off-site resource listing them
I guess it could be construed as 'too broad' but the answer seems fairly well-scoped
I'd recommend just removing the tag from it
 
@Mogsdad expects Kyll to burst through the wall
 
5:06 PM
waffles
 
5:28 PM
@TylerH Since we're not burninating, I've been avoiding editing too many questions out of the tag. But if you can see a way to make that on-topic, go for it. It will take it out of the tag queue... but it would remain in the general one for some time, so it may still get closed.
 
@Mogsdad I think it is more or less on-topic as it is, is what I'm saying
though I'm not very attached to it one way or the other
so I left the tag when I revised the grammar of the question
 
Looking at the history, I see you're not the first to edit it since it probably got its first CV. In its original form, it expressly asked "where".
If it does get closed, the owner will be notified... with the edits that have been done, it's a better question, and would make it through re-opening. If those edits hadn't been done, the owner would have the chance to make the changes themselves... so all good, either way.
 
Is this question an offsite resource req? I removed the doc tag, but mulling closure
 
@Mogsdad @TylerH You can kick it out of the CV-queue by editing the question from the queue.
 
5:55 PM
@Makyen (Hopefully Tyler did that... because I voted long before the edits.)
 
@Machavity It is, but it could be easily edited (done) to just be asking the question in the title: "How exactly are files removed during MSI uninstall" instead of stating in the text "where is the documentation of the removal procedure?". However, it's really asking multiple questions (at least 3 or 4), so I'd consider it too broad.
 
@Machavity "Trying to find reliable source..." YES.,
Obviously didn't read the tag info for .
 
6:10 PM
@Machavity Shove a hot poker into it.
 
@Machavity There's a nice user-script, Magicâ„¢ Editor (GitHub) (install), which can correct many common issues. It isn't perfect. You must manually check the changes (and revert some, sometimes even all of them), but it's often very helpful.
 
Ron
Completed all interviews. Was offered a job. Feeling so perplexed.
Alas, poor Ron, the 9 to 5 monster has finally caught you.
 
@Ron Which version of Delphi will you be working with?
..or is it Haskell?
 
Ron
Haha. Nice one.
COBOL.
 
Ron
6:30 PM
@MartinJames If HAL 9000 can hand over reports on punched cards I figured cobol is the way to go.
 
@Ron lol
 
user4639281
@PaulStenne I forgot what I was going to ask, something about partitioning I think.
 
Does this qualify as LQ/NAA?
 
6:49 PM
I'm out of votes, unfortunately :(
 
7:00 PM
@Makyen it was already out of the queue from an edit on Dec 30th, so I just edited it from the question view.
 
This is NAA. stackoverflow.com/a/48119773 But should we flag it?
 
@PraveenKumar As opposed to... not flagging it?
 
LoL.
Spam vote?
 
@PraveenKumar nah, it's not spam, it's someone asking a question as an answer
 
@PraveenKumar Del voted. I'm a rebel
 
7:12 PM
:D
 
0
Q: This isn't a very [logic]al tag

EJoshuaSThe logic tag currently has 5,980 questions. Its description is as follows: Logic is about reasoning. This tag is appropriate for such things as logic programming, programming problems involving a logical system, or basic questions about the logical systems used in programming. In other wor...

 
@EJoshuaS the burnination process is still pretty backed up
we are currently still cleaning up documentation which is first in line arguably for burnination when it's ready
there are currently ~20,000 questions between meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/361187/… and meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/343030/this-tag-is-history waiting to be burninated/cleaned up as well
 
@Compass "salad"
 
Vietnamese meatball noodle bowl

Warm lemongrass turkey meatballs, chilled rice noodles, pickled hearts of palm, English cucumbers, crispy shallots, cabbage & herb blend
 
7:28 PM
@Compass Better than German cucumbers..
 
@MartinJames We normally import them from the Netherlands ;-þ
 
i wasnt aware of the difference in cucumbers
i think English cucumbers is moreso a type rather than a region source
since all the English cucumbers we get are from local farms
 
@EJoshuaS IMO, just the fact that a Q is a dup with answers isn't a valid reason for us to delete-vote a newly closed dup-question. Dup-questions are expected to be signposts towards the dup-target. If it's a bad signpost, then that's a reason to delete it. Unless the Q is causing harm, I'd rather see such questions given time to demonstrate if they are good signposts, or not. See: How many duplicates (if any) are enough to justify deletion of a question?
For score < 1, unanswered dup-questions w/o lots of comments, Roomba will delete them after 30 or 365 days. The 365 day Roomba explicitly also has a views > 1.5*days old criteria, which addresses the signpost issue for those questions which fit those limiting criteria.
[Just FYI: The question in the request to which I'm replying is already deleted.]
 
7:52 PM
How many duplicates does it take to change a light bulb?
 
user4639281
As many as is required to adequately direct the person changing the light bulb
 
Ron
42
Lame, I know :)
@Nkosi o/
 
\o
 
\oooo/
 
Ron
Some people have it good. Not a snowflake in sight.
 
7:57 PM
:) can't deny that much. I love Caribbean weather.
give me tropical climate over snow any day
 
user4639281
No snow here today
 
Today was not all that hot. spent the majority of it out side. just got back in
today was productive.
 
IT MUST BE NICE
MEANWHILE
IT IS NEGATIVE...
 
Ron
I wasted a whole day on interviews and sadly got a job.
 
-8 CELSIUS HERE.
 
7:59 PM
@Makyen Will dupes with answers Roomba, though? I thought answers always prevented dupes from Roombaing.
 
user4639281
@Compass negative -8?
 
@TylerH Reasonable point - I definitely expected it to move to the back of the line (and I heartily approve of the documentation cleanup). The Meta request for [logic] seems to be drawing downvotes anyway, so we'll see if it happens at all. (I'm actually a little surprised by that, I'm curious as to why people don't want it to happen).
 
Ron
I must say I really enjoyed the last two technical interviews. Straight to the point, real world problems and proper theory. Felt like I was answering on SO. Companies are coming to their senses.
 
user4639281
 
It. Is. Very. Cold.
My dog was out doing lines of snow.
Came back with a white nose.
 
user4639281
8:04 PM
@Ron That was one of my qualms about Google, the problems they provided were very vague, ambiguous, and generally not well-defined. If the questions had been asked on Stack Overflow they would have been closed as unclear.
 
user4639281
@Compass orly, isn't negative -8 just +8?
 
Ron
@TinyGiant I know, right? More often than not those interviews include trivial math and are so detached from reality.
 
user4639281
I mean, if we're talking Kelvin, that's cold.
 
@EJoshuaS I said "unanswered dup-questions". My point wasn't that we should never vote-to-delete them, it's that they should be given time to demonstrate that they are, or aren't, good signposts. Alternately, that you show that they are causing harm in some way such that they should be deleted now. [Note: I'd support very limited expansion of the criteria for Roomba (e.g. considering the age of comments rather than the number of them) such that more Qs are deleted.
 
@TinyGiant damit!!!! I lost the game!!!!!
 
user4639281
8:08 PM
You know you love it :P
 
we're going to have trust issues. lol
 
Ron
@Compass Don't let them bring you down with their unary shenanigans. Too many technical interviews under the hood.
 
user4639281
actually, my song to start with for the day is slightly NSFW, so listen at your own peril. Dance with the devil by Immortal Technique. (If you're not into dark music then you probably should skip this one)
 
@Makyen Fair point
 
Ron
"Shuffle array elements so that <arbitrary abc> while not being allowed to use <arbitrary def>".
 
8:18 PM
I refilled the queue last night BTW.
 
8:31 PM
And just like in real life you can never seem to get away from doing documentation. lol
 
Ron
Donna Summer was such an amazing artist...
 
@EJoshuaS Gah.. it's like one of those mythical magic chalices - you drink all the wine but, by the next day, it's filled up again.
...except it's a poisoned chalice.
 
user9169574
8:59 PM
 
user4639281
inb4 rickroll
 
user9169574
9:28 PM
@TinyGiant You have to admit that Donna is far more good looking than Rick Astley :-P ...
 
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Q: The [shop] is closed

VickelJust ran into the shop tag. It has no wiki, 45 followers and 180 questions tagged. I suggest to burninate and blacklist that tag as it is: 1. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? Yes it may describe the contents, but no it is not unambi...

 
user4639281
10:29 PM
@EJoshuaS you hate baby kittens, don't you?
 
10:41 PM
Baby kittens are OK-ish, but they don't soak up much gasoline and so don't burn for long.
 
@TinyGiant No, actually, I particularly like Ocelots and Siberian Lynx kittens
 
11:02 PM
is this NAA or just VLQ? I'm torn. I just know something is wrong with this stackoverflow.com/a/48122212/5233410
 
@Nkosi should be a comment I think
 
SOLD!!!! to the blurry flower in the corner.
Thanks
 
user4639281
@rene "Make sure you're properly importing the umbraco.interfaces namespace in your file." would seem like an attempt at an answer to me...
 
@TinyGiant it doesn't say that ... but if it would, sure.
 
@TinyGiant the wording is what is throwing me off.
 
user4639281
11:07 PM
@rene edited
 
Yeah, that works, was about to leave a nice comment
 
Yep no longer confusing.
 
user4639281
Edited the question to, hopefully a bit better.
 
user4639281
Not sure if the example provided is an MCVE (I'm guessing that if it was then the answer wouldn't be a guess).
 
11:37 PM
hi all
 
\o
 
any edit suggestions?
 
@Vickel feeds posted it, scroll back a bit in the transcript
 
aaah, I saw it right now...
 
It doesn't look like a huge magnet of bad posts, roughly one per month. Not sure if that needs a burn now/soon.
 
11:53 PM
@rene well, that's a way to see it, but IMO it is a completely useless tag
 
true that. We'll see how it goes. I don't see anything that I could improve on your question, as that was your request.
 
I had 5th point, which said "my girlfriend sure knows how to [shop]", but out-edited by Stijn and I don't blame him as it's not relevant, just a laugh
 

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