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1:55 AM
@Machavity you don't need to use any reason. the php tag is enough :)
 
with code-only answer
 
Also, I love the OP's self-answer
> I did it! Thanks for negative votes! I love you to
 
 
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user3956566
4:28 AM
need some edit rejects stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/17386027 this user is adding .net to a heap of posts
 
@YvetteColomb Hi, do you know what "Close" means here (the action you took)? stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/17317581 What's "Close" in a Low Quality Posts review?
 
user3956566
@Pang one of @TinyGiant's scripts, enables to close vote the question from the review queue. So if the question is off topic, I close vote it.
 
@YvetteColomb So it will actually record a "Close" action on a Low Quality Posts Review of an answer? Weird.
 
user3956566
@Pang yep - I like it - when the question is attracting bad answers - it goes to the root of the problem
 
user3956566
4:35 AM
Just saves going to the post and close voting in a new tab
 
@YvetteColomb I see, thanks.
 
user3956566
@Pang yw :)
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS you dig up a lot of old posts, is this part of a burn?
 
@YvetteColomb Yes,
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS ah k maybe put that in the request - if it's not too hard that is
 
4:44 AM
@YvetteColomb Yes, I probably should've mentoned that it's part of tag cleanup in the request
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS cos I always look and if they're old with no new answers, I'm like wth. Then I remember burns.
 
@YvetteColomb Yep, the two legitimate reasons for posting old questions here are tag cleanup or recent activity - otherwise I just leave it for the review queue
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS yep yep
 
user3956566
it might be a good idea to have a thoughts?
 
That could be a good idea
 
4:49 AM
No. Neither of those options are good as a tag for cv-pls. All the scripts rely on the tag being (or starting) with some version of cv-pls. It would be better to add a separate tag, if you are set on having a tag for it.
If you really want to, you can try adding something after the cv-pls (e.g. cv-pls-burn-tag). At least some of the scripts will pick that up, but not all of them.
 
Is this spam? (Appears to be trying to recruit people to work with him on a project).
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS no - regular user making a msitake
 
@EJoshuaS there is no link or contact info or anything like that
 
@YvetteColomb I edited that part out - it's still a bad question that should be closed, though
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS I wouldn't have edited it - you've bumped it into the reopen queue and it's off-topic - edit or not.
 
5:02 AM
@YvetteColomb I edited it before it was closed, so it didn't go into the queue - normally I don't like to edit closed questions either unless I know how to substantially improve the post either to avoid putting it into the reopen queue prematurely
 
user3956566
@EJoshuaS ah soz - it didn't refresh until after it closed
 
user3956566
afk
 
We should also avoid editing from within the close-vote review queue. When you do so, it kicks the question out of the CV review queue. Note that this is only when you use the Edit button from within the CV review queue. (ref1, ref2). Editing from the question page does not kick the question out of the CV review queue.
I've just released the user script Top-navigation choices. You can set preferences for how you want the new top-navigation to look. Works on SO/MSO and MSE/etc. (any with new top-nav). There's: move drop-down buttons (left, right, center); adjust height; add a dark (top-nav) theme for SO/MSO; merge site-switcher with logo; global sticky/not; and more. Everything's optional. You can have the top-nav look the way you want. Default is this.
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@kayess See ^. A ping, per your request.
 
5:30 AM
@EJoshuaS thats already hammered
 
@suraj Got hammered after I posted - probably would've been better to ask someone with Mjolnir to just hammer it from the outset
Well, I should probably head out
 
 
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7:01 AM
Morning \o
 
o/
 
@Makyen Thank you a lot!
 
7:19 AM
\0
 
@Makyen script works flawlessly! Really good job you did there! Respect and thanks!
 
@kayess Welcome. Thanks. I'm glad it's helpful.
 
 
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8:59 AM
Today's evening sunset marks the beginning of Rosh Hashanah... the Ayin Chet year will begin :)
 
Last SD report, here's another by the same user: stackoverflow.com/a/46317490/5211833
can someone report that ^
@kayess ta
 
@Adriaan yw
 
9:34 AM
@TetsuyaYamamoto Is that about recreational drugs?
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/356803/dupes-but-they-arent this is brought up in meta
 
user3956566
 
10:12 AM
@suraj First revision indicated a dupe, OP edited that but still require reopen from others to ensure it's a different topic.
 
@TetsuyaYamamoto its reopened now..OP deleted the meta post
 
10:37 AM
Stack Overflow Car Value Reviewers
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Plop everyone
 
\o
 
hiya @Kyll
 
Billhooks - will a RO please delete this and my 'fix car' post above - accidentally posted to wrong site:(
 
Ah, sure
 
10:47 AM
Was there a policy on "What does this code do?" type of questions? Looking through the close reasons none seem to fit.
@PaulStenne whose head did you "plop" this time?
 
@Adriaan Often TB, unless extremely specific
@Adriaan Yours, as usual
 
@PaulStenne but it's not too broad? It's a piece of code which does one specific thing. (In this case there was a simple lousy if statement with 2 conditions and one line of code inside)
 
In that case it's fine. Often it's at least half a dozen lines or statements long and the TB comes from the fact that you don't exactly know what the asker understands or not
If, for example, it's to explain a single statement in a working piece of code ("What does the gen_salt function do and why is it necessary for this password hashing code"), then it's fine
 
@PaulStenne stackoverflow.com/q/46319726/5211833 is the culprit. He has syntax errors, a missing end, but it's clear to me at least what it does (aww yiss physics)
 
... That's copied from a textbook
Well, edit the Q with the valid code I guess
 
10:57 AM
@Makyen submitted a new issue on gh.
 
@PaulStenne muh, I did that in my answer
 
@Adriaan Yeah but overall it's noise, better edit it in the Q and be done with it
@suraj Uh... I'd go for extremely heavy misguidance
 
11:14 AM
@PaulStenne no flag for that :p
 
Heh =p
@bummi Voted GC
 
thx
 
@bummi should it be closed dupe if there is no answer in the other site?
 
@suraj Technically the issue isn't the cross-posting but the fact that it's General Computing
 
@suraj I think SU is the better place for the question
 
11:21 AM
Boy what a crappy scrapper this spammer is using
 
@PaulStenne true.. was asking in general
 
In general cross-posting is not a scope issue
 
Morning
 
\o
 
Plop Nathan
 
12:07 PM
@NathanOliver I understand the question as having the error intentional
 
@bummi yep, request removed
 
Heh. I've gotten several more revenge downvotes. People have learned
 
@Machavity ?
 
They always downvote only 2 questions. Never enough to trigger a reversal
 
12:25 PM
Saw
@MikeKinghan suggestion: 1/ make a summary of your excellent answer from the duplicate. 2/ earn bounty. 3/ close question as duplicate. — YSC yesterday
got angry. Then saw the reply
@YSC Tempted, but I feel it would be unseemly of me to have lifted 295 rep for my former answer and then to lift another 100 or so by summarizing it - when I only have the opportunity due to having not noticed this dupe in time to close-vote it before it was bountied! — Mike Kinghan 17 hours ago
and got happy
 
@Machavity nothing's showing up on the mod radar- so err, just don't worry?
 
@JonClements I had two question downvotes on Aug 18. They happened within a minute of one another. Today the same thing. Follows the same pattern a lot of us saw in the [apple] burnination. I wouldn't expect it to show up in mod tools
FWIW Brad said those looked suspicious but nothing was done AFAIK
 
1:03 PM
@Adriaan That same person from yesterday spammed again here . Not sure if you want to bring it to meta for that declined flag.
 
1:18 PM
@NathanOliver the mod who declined yesterday pops in here every now and then, can't we ask him there?
 
Is there a Irc or xmpp protocol for So chat?
 
@Adriaan Sure. Just not sure when the next time they will pop in.
 
@DragandDrop Uses web sockets. Is all I know
 
1:36 PM
@JonClements: looks like we have three sock-puppets or trolls. See the profiles of the users: stackoverflow.com/questions/46320741/… stackoverflow.com/questions/46322449/…
 
@Olaf Please use a mod flag for mod things
 
@NathanOliver I did before I noticed. And as jonclements deleted one of the questions, he might be after it already.
 
OK. We have a rule about not pinging mods in the room to do some mod action.
 
@NathanOliver Hmm, that's news to me. I've seen others doing that occasionally. Looks like I should check the FAQ once more.
 
@Olaf We try to say something when we see it but we don't monitor every message. The rule was put in place because people were abusing mods lurking in the room.
Huh, looks like it was never put in the FAQ. Not sure why. Maybe it's on meta
 
1:46 PM
@NathanOliver Understood. I just found it the best way for this one. I normally don't do this (and not when it's hot in here)
 
@NathanOliver Can you provide a link then? Maybe there're other rules I don't know. Kinda hard to follow unknown rules.
 
I'm checking. See this about pinging mods. It's a site thing, not just our room.
 
The unwritten/unofficial rule about pinging mods seems to be if the mod is actively chatting in the channel it's not a big deal. At least none of the mods have complained about those kinds of pings
But pinging, say, Brad Larson (who is not here and not chatting) would be frowned upon
 
Aug 4 '16 at 17:18, by Jon Clements
@FrankerZ anyway - rule of thumb - don't ping mods please
all those free comment flags
 
1:55 PM
Del voted the question too
 
2:10 PM
@Machavity I actually thought Jon was lurking around here, because the auto completion worked. Just checked the user-list which proves me wrong. So I seem to have indeed done wrong. Again sorry to wake up everyone.
too broad
 
I assumed you meant to close vote every frigging question as too broad .... now I have retract some close votes ....
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2:26 PM
@rene You didn't get IP banned again did you? ;)
 
@rene I don't cv every question. And I vary for the ones I do. ahhh, got it! No, that would have been .*
 
^ happy family photo bonus
 
cd internet:/ && rm -rf *
 
@Olaf EPERM?
 
@NathanOliver totally ;)
 
2:32 PM
@E_net4 Let's hope so. Might still hit some paths.
 
@Olaf in 6 to 8 weeks you'll get used to my sense of humor. Some will never get it. Don't worry, it is me, not you ...
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@rene Humor in a foreign language is always problematic. I already have problems with some of my countrypeople.
 
^Tag cleanup
 
@EJoshuaS Looks more like sales/PM, i.e. not programming to me.
@EJoshuaS What does than mean? Wipe the dust of the characters and sort them alphabetically into a shelf?
 
@rene Thanks!
 
2:41 PM
yw
 
@Olaf It's part of a tag cleanup/burnination effort
 
@EJoshuaS I understood that already. Just that "cleanup" brought up that association. As usual,the RO gets it straight to the point: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/39236904#39236904 :-))
 
user177800
@user0042 if it is a revenge vote, makes me happy, tells me that I am doing a good job cleaning up the site ! :-)
 
2:58 PM
Also, no MCVE
 
3:14 PM
^ I misread the question above. Probably Unclear is the right flag.
 
@NathanOliver That guy is cruising for a ban. Second time he's posted that
 
@NathanOliver See this SD report
 
that question has a lot of answers...
 
No wonder we have that many bad questions incoming.
 
3:22 PM
@Olaf 80k* :-P even worse
 
@Machavity I see. It's spam now
 
@TylerH Yes, I should use a larger font. Eyes&age - bad combination.
 
Oh, I'm sure you are young in dog years!
hides from JonClements
 
@Olaf How likely is this to turn into meta drama?
 
@TylerH After all, i don't wear clothes. (and I'm not a dog)
@E_net4 Unlikely from what he wrote. Even if, I'm not interested in participating. This time I fully agree with the rules, as they just make sense. If someone did not learn at school to formulate a consistent question he is lost to us already. (Not talking about minor flaws, though)
 
3:26 PM
well let's make sure we don't apply the meta SOCVR effect to his answer
 
@TylerH I did not. But we are free individuals, aren't we?
Just FYI: The comment from chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/39237879#39237879 was deleted as expected.
"I've completed c/c++ so i confuse to make game in lang …" - I wish I had
 
3:57 PM
^^^ thanks folks!
 
4:09 PM
@Adriaan My serious reaction there would be looking for a dupe. But the Python tag might be a bit too big for this.
 
@FireAlarm edited. Please review if it is clear now.
 
@NathanOliver looks clear now, but so basic that I'm not sure we'd help the site by reopening. Like @E_net4 said, it's probably a dupe somewhere
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
5:30 PM
OP question: 'The file opens fine with fopen'................ (later, in answer comment): 'Thats a great advice, the file was not opening correctly.' Aaarrgghhh!
 
Arr! Talk like a pirate day was yesterday, mate. ;)
TIL I should avoid writing a typo in stackexchange.com.
 
5:49 PM
@MartinJames Need a stick to bite on?
 
6:07 PM
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Q: De-Versioning [unity5.3]

Draco18sWe already have a unity tag and a unity5 tag. 5.3 is a relatively major version release (unlike the last Unity 5.2.3 tag I got burninated) and while it's release notes are rather extensive, none of the questions with this tag seem to have anything to do with those new features, except possibly o...

 
6:21 PM
I'm incredibly skilled at clicking the MCVE link when trying to CV as no MCVE, instead of selecting the option
 
@NathanOliver --^ a classic one :D (if the cvs-script has removed here you go)
 
Hah, a real screen shot
o/
 
Swift 4 was officially released yesterday, which means I have to build Swift on an RPi again sigh
 
6:28 PM
Anyone can recommend a friendly knitting forum? I need a softer environment (no, not a padded cell). stackoverflow.com/questions/46329135/…
 
next question I post I will take a foto too but not of the screen instead of the computer :D, This is the pc that is having error
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haha
 
@NobodyNada lot's of new SO question?, translate all swift3 answers to swift4?, I kind of feel I seen that story before :D
 
@PetterFriberg I like the way to looks
 
@PetterFriberg Actually, this might even explain the cause … check the logo.
 
6:30 PM
@PetterFriberg Shouldn't be too bad this time though; Swift 4 is mostly source-compatible
 
@PetterFriberg Install jQuery, it worked for me.
 
@Olaf hmm I like dell, what do you have against dell...
@E_net4 +1
 
Although there've been some fairly significant changes to String
 
50% more stringy?
 
Time to post some Swift4 answer then, get some rep NobodyNada
 
String. Now with 50% more String.
 
@NathanOliver They re-added Collection conformance so you don't have to use .characters all the time anymore
 
@PetterFriberg Well, nothing after I got a new GPU for my notebook because of bad solder joins causing video-problems..
 
@NobodyNada </nods and pretends I understand what you're saying> Sweet
 
Swift Strings are designed to be completely Unicode-correct, unlike C strings which are just arrays of bytes
 
6:34 PM
@Olaf arrg, I actually have not had much problems with dell, other suppliers have been worse, but I guess in the end all the same..., best to build it yourself.
 
But that meant you couldn't just do for character in s; you had to do for character in s.characters (or .utf8, .unicodeScalars, or whatever)
and stuff like s.characters[s.characters.index(s.characters.startIndex, offsetBy: 5)] got really annoying
 
@PetterFriberg They come all from Foxconn, etc. anyway
 
@NobodyNada specially since characters is long to type, what did they do rename it to chars :)
 
I see. Well that's nice that they brought it back. I wish C++ would support Unicode.
 
@NobodyNada So I wonder, how does the indexing operator work in there? Is it byte-indexed?
 
6:37 PM
@PetterFriberg They made String a collection of Characters once again
 
@NathanOliver C++ already "supports unicode" so I don't foresee it happening soon :'(. I just need to find a good C++ unicode string library and switch to using unicode::string instead of std::string
 
@NobodyNada no clue what that means but seems nice Collection for me is a list maybe "Test".get(0)?
 
@Justin It's "support" is pretty laughable though. There are good libraries out there so it is probably something that isn't going to happen.
 
@PetterFriberg Collection is a protocol which defines operations like subscripts, iteration, indices, map, filter, reduce, etc
@E_net4 what indexing operator?
 
nice so protocol in swift is interface in java
 
6:41 PM
Exactly
 
@NobodyNada Subscript. mystr[x].
 
@NobodyNada text.index(of: " ") that's strange for of: is a parameter in function, like a enum?, Swift seems interesting time for me to learn
 
@E_net4 Here's the definition; it actually takes a String.Index
Which is probably a byte index under the hood, and that's why you can't index the characters with an integer
You have to do s[s.index(s.startIndex, offsetBy: 5)], which gets kind of annoying but makes it clear that looking up a character index is not a O(1) operation, since each character can take multiple Unicode code points
 
@NobodyNada Yep, that's interesting.
 
@PetterFriberg It's called an argument label -- it's basically part of the name of the function
It's super nice when dealing with a function call with lots of parameters, since you don't have to look up documentation to see what the parameters are
 
6:46 PM
In Rust, you can't index over a string. But you can build an iterator of characters.
 
@NobodyNada Don't you still have to consult the documentation to know what argument label to use?
 
@Justin Yeah (or autocomplete); it makes it easier to read though
 
Sensible. Named arguments are nice
 
@NobodyNada can you do without?, or you need to add, can a method have same signature but with different argument label?
 
@PetterFriberg You can declare a method without an argument label, but the declared argument labels are required when calling the method
 
6:53 PM
Darn these low quality answers I keep seeing. I'm never going to make it to 13k rep at this rate!
 
And you can overload a method with different argument labels (or even the same argument labels, if you have different types)
 
and can you have two different methods with same signature but different label?, like index(:of int) index(:notof int)
 
@PetterFriberg Yep
 
nice, that seems like something they should include in java10 :D
 
6:56 PM
@NobodyNada how the heck to I override a method in my example index(:maybeof int), how do the compiler know which one to override?
 
@PetterFriberg You can't override a method with different argument labels; index(maybeof: Int) would be a 3rd method
 
@PetterFriberg It's easy enough to mangle the argument label into the function name
 
@NobodyNada overload is not override?
 
@PetterFriberg Overload means you have two different methods with the same name, override means re-implementing a method from the superclass
 
maybe time I stop bugging you and search the internet some :D
 
7:00 PM
@PetterFriberg You know, we have a documentation.. err, never mind ;)
 
ok, sorry was not use to that in java we use signature (different signature)
 
although that doesn't talk about overloads, sorry
 
@NobodyNada ... or you are implementing the method which was declared (as a contract like interface) by partial class above it : )
oh wait aren't we talking c#
crawp :\
Too bad we can't CV duplicate network wide :o
Should this be migrated to meta or del-pls/roomba instead?
 
@NobodyNada default param value is really nice, I miss that in java (only way is to overload :D, create methods with different signature)
 
7:42 PM
Wow. A question that's unclear, too broad, and has no mcve. Doesn't seem too common that questions meet all three
 
@Justin Add "cannot reproduce/typo" and monitor the C tag.
 
8:17 PM
@Olaf I'm not sure this is POB. It might be as it's written right now, but it at least seems very close to a proper question; perhaps it can be edited to make it less OB?
 
Could also be TB, but definitively not on-topic. Read the last paragraph. OP just wants to change something well established and working for the fun of it.
 
Should we be judging the original motive of the question now?
 
@E_net4 By what and how is asked. Feel free to ignore my request, though.
 
@Olaf It's fine, we can agree to disagree. :) I find it sufficiently appropriate because modern C++ guidelines advise us against C-style casts and spurious preprocessing macros.
Besides, not everyone visiting the question will be changing their codebase for fame and glory: they might not have any to start with.
 
I definitely think the question is misguided and agree about "fame and glory" being a terrible reason to look for something "better". I can't decide whether the question should be closed, though. If this is TB, that seems to imply that most questions on SO looking for an implementation are TB, but there are definitely questions looking for implementations that I think are perfectly on topic.
 
8:33 PM
Typical C++ - a huge pile of template crap just to load values into memory locations.;(
 
@E_net4 How much embedded programming have you done? There is a lot of things you will not find in textbooks or learn at CS class. Mot of their authors/profs have never even connected a MCU to the host for debugging. There is nothing wrong about that. And MCU vendors will give a heck about providing two different headers where one is sufficient for both languages (with some extern "C" …)
 
OK, yes, I'm a bit ratted. I've been on the Bishops Finger, an' I'm trollin' drunk.
 
@Justin "looking for an implementation are TB" - Well, they are. either TB or "asking for external resource". But that one is aking about different variants, not accepting "keep it as-is", hence POB. Anyway, it is OT, I don't care which reason your dice show.
@MartinJames Is that some <censored> practice? ;-)
 
@Olaf I hope not, 'cos I intend to do the same tomorrow.
 
@Olaf Depending on how you "look for an implementation", it seems it might not be TB. If you do so by providing something really close to an implementation (show what you tried), it seems to be considered fine.
 
8:40 PM
@MartinJames Well, I don't judge, whatever you like.
 
@Olaf Judge away:)
 
@Justin Perhaps Typo. Statechart's Documentation says that it requires RTTI for debug mode. Needed to compile with -DNDEBUG to make it not use RTTI. I can't decide whether this should be closed for typo. Definitely missing MCVE, though
 
@Olaf lol
 
@Justin At this point, I think it's kinda borderline. I retracted my cv, though, and am going to answer the question
 
@Justin For the record: I cv-pls'ed as "POB", not TB. So this is pointless for the question in question anyway. Otherwise, I think at least for C, C++, Assembler, Python and quite some more, the term "implementation" is quite clear, at least to professional developers. Depending on your field, ymmv, though. I rarely don't ask cv-pls for other tags).
 
Yeah, I can't decide for the question in question, so I'm just not gonna leave a vote for now. Thanks for the help @Olaf
 
@Justin Public rubberducking?
 
@Olaf Referring to a cv-pls I posted, and providing more information, maybe someone could've given some insight.
I'm not the best at this yet. Still learning
 
9:04 PM
@Justin When you stop learning, it's called 'death'.
 
@MartinJames So in most companies, I see dead people?
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Oh - I already delv'd that one:)
@Olaf ROTFLOL!
 
I have no votes left :(
I have flags :\ Maybe I should use those
 
Huh? This answer was made community wiki by a 133 rep user, who was not the OP? How does that work? See its timeline: stackoverflow.com/posts/10117865/timeline
 
lol, 'random syntax', (outside PHP, too).
 
9:12 PM
I don't understand why this question was reopened...
 
Good news: OP included complete error message: 'File: C:\Users\msi gaming\Desktop\Calc.java [line: 13] Error: not a statement'.

Bad news, OP edited code so that line 13 did not exist and so 'line 13' was actually line 10 ;(
 
@MartinJames at least something got improved, which is a win, no?
 
@rene Ask me again after another few beers:)
 
@MartinJames sure ;)
 
..or ask @Olaf - he has a sixth sense about these things;)
 
9:28 PM
@MartinJames I don't hav any beer here. Ask me on the weekend; hope I don't foget the Amaretto again.
@MartinJames We need an AI. But that will jump out of the drivebay after 10ns work
 
@SmokeDetector weird, positive scoring Q and he wants to delete it
 
@Adriaan Maybe a homework question and covering his tracks
 
@Justin probably, seeing he's a student
I'm off to bed, good night all
 
@Adriaan At 4:30 PM? :)
 
user4639281
9:51 PM
@NathanOliver My plan was to gradually expand the scope of MTR to the full capabilities of the API (basically any query that could be performed using the API should be able to be performed using MTR). Continued development depends on whether or not the recent proposed changes to the close reasons get implemented or not.
 
10:11 PM
@Floern Your diploma question has been closed.
 
@KenWhite and your Plz do my homework question has been deleted :)
 
TIL you can go over the comment length limit using special links like [mcve].
You can fill a comment with only [mcve] repeated and it becomes a massive comment
 
I suspect mods won't like it though
 
That's why I deleted the comment immediately after testing it
Oh... dear.... This question is an XY problem on so many levels and is missing an MCVE.
 
 
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11:52 PM
@Floern If you're using comments.socvr.org there's a PM custom closure in there
 

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