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6:07 AM
Morning
 
Morning \o
 
6:59 AM
Morning
 
Good morning
 
Morning \o
 
7:36 AM
@TimCastelijns uh, we don't do meta ...
 
oh - my bad
 
@TimCastelijns no problem, I just fixed it ...
 
 
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9:45 AM
 
am thinking spam..but without actual url?
 
Thought that too, but no href
 
I don't think it's spam. It is related to the question tool referred in the question but, in any case, is a very poor answer with a low level of information so I flagged it
 
ok
 
@Bugs was thinking of unclear or TB
 
9:54 AM
@kayess yeah either or would be fitting.
 
 
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10:55 AM
any updates on apple burnination status? one more on apple policy.. stackoverflow.com/questions/44305491/…
 
11:28 AM
@suraj chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/37283412#37283412. I guess we are still waiting (cc @FelixSFD)
 
Morning
 
Morning
 
user1593881
Hello world.
 
Hiya mr. trainbraker
 
user1593881
searching for trainbraker
 
user1593881
11:37 AM
@NathanOliver Got an offer to work with QT. Hate QT.
 
user1593881
@kayess What's a mid level C# developer salary in Budapest?
 
user1593881
1.5K net?
 
@RawN heavily depends on what kind of other skills you may have
Because most companies here wants say a C# coder, then you better know CSS and JS and SQL and ORMs and etcetc. You may kinda need to be a full-stack dev
 
user1593881
@kayess Was offered 2k for C++. Turned them down.
 
2k net ?
 
user1593881
11:44 AM
yes
 
That's kinda mid level
Although I wonder how many the gross would be ?
Just to remind you that companies here are cheating with everything they can....
 
user1593881
I am not surprised. My country borders yours. Same here.
 
@RawN I've never used it.
 
user1593881
@NathanOliver I tried it out once.
 
user1593881
Once too many :)
 
11:50 AM
lol
 
12:11 PM
@RawN to which direction?
 
12:31 PM
survive time 48 seconds, far from a record.
 
user1593881
@kayess The wrong one.
 
@RawN to the right ? : D
 
user1593881
1:17 PM
@kayess Haha, nope.
 
user1593881
More like down.
 
Wooha! Serbian partisan detected! :D
 
in #!/bin/bash, 27 mins ago, by tripleee
@konyv12 if your question is really programming-related, maybe self-answer it
^ maybe somebody here would like to review my reasoning on that one, I think it's off-topic but scroll back a bit from the message I link to for a discussion
 
user1593881
@kayess Close but no cigar.
 
user1593881
Wth is a partisan?
 
1:22 PM
@RawN slovene / slovak / slovfefe?
 
user1593881
Haha
 
@RawN a member of an armed group formed to fight secretly against an occupying force, in particular one operating in German-occupied Yugoslavia, Italy, and parts of eastern Europe in the Second World War.
 
user1593881
Nice one.
 
user1593881
I see that &&^%$#@!fefe meme is trending.
 
aka a member of a political party :/ or something.
 
user1593881
1:24 PM
I kid you fellow socvrfefes.
6
 
lol
 
lol
covfefe fever
 
hey Cold Firveve
 
hey @kayess
 
@RawN Out of curiosity: 2k per month? Or what? How much experience? What field (banking/industry/embedded/applications/…)?
@Bugs Partisan or Parmesan. All is grated.
 
1:29 PM
@Olaf and smell like feet
 
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@Olaf Yes. 2k per month. The job was hardware-centric.
 
user1593881
In Budapest.
 
@Bugs I don't have much experience with partisans;-)
For a beginner? (even then it is ridiculous).
 
user1593881
@Olaf Not sure I follow.
 
user1593881
Too much or too little?
 
1:30 PM
And I prefer Peccorino.
@RawN Too much would be great. Too little, of course (but I still need to know how much experience). Budapest has similar living costs like Germany IIRC (maybe except for rooms).
 
user1593881
Well in SE Europe the situation is like this:
 
user1593881
All the (not so creative) jobs moved from India to SE Europe.
 
user1593881
Brain dead maintenance mostly.
 
user1593881
Salary is 700 for junior 1500 mid level and proly around 2000 for senior.
 
user1593881
Net.
 
user1593881
1:35 PM
Things are bleak in E and SE Europe.
 
user1593881
Hungary, Southern Italy, Croatia, Spain, Portugal, CZ - similar in my experience.
 
user1593881
Western and Northern Europe is where the money is. But then again the costs go up too.
 
@Olaf another thing in which we disagree then ;-). A lot better Parmigiano (Parmesan is the low level imitation of the real thing) And by the way. It is Pecorino (one c)
 
Come to England where you are overworked and underpaid. Although I'm quite fortunate to not be in that situation but the weather isn't good.
 
@Steve @Steve: "Parmesan" is the German name for Parmigiano; nothing low-level. You might have "Gana Padano" in mind which uses the same production method, but is not allowed to have the same name because Parmigiano" and "Parmesan" are protected names by the EU (same as "Schwarzwälder Schinken", etc.). And yes, thanks for correcting my typos - good my Editors and compilers check the syntax:-).
 
1:44 PM
@Olaf, oh well good to know, that name is so abused.
 
SOCVR - Stack Overflow Cheese Variety Reviewers :p
 
And it's more the taste I prefer from Pecorino, independently of the origin of Parmigiano. FYI: I also prefer Roquefort over Gorgonzola. Might be the sheep's milk over cow.
@Steve Not really. As I wrote, it is protected. But I agee there are too many similar names and too many people not know the differences. Well, you might have noticed here already I'm quite a nit-picker, so why stop being it with food? :-))
@Bugs So, what do you think: cheddar plus danish cave-cheese for a self-made cheeseburger?
 
I'm actually not that much of a cheese fan. Mild cheeses I don't mind but often I stay away. I find the smell too strong that it overpowers.
 
@Bugs You're right, I should use a thick slice of Harzer for the burger :-)
 
Haha :p
 
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1:57 PM
@Olaf Does your work include field work or travel?
 
@RawN Depends. Not if I can avoid it. But most customers want presence in their company (more of some stupid surveilance thing than reasonable, because I'm way more productive in my office than at a site where all developers chat, get coffee, etc. - too much distraction.
 
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@Olaf I see.
 
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@Olaf I wouldn't mind a road trip now and then. I still haven't decided which direction to pursue. Embedded sounds fun but I am not sure I can get used to C.
 
@RawN "embedded sounds fun" - Well, it has become a very broad field, from PC based stuff to bare-metal low level. But it is more like engineering (if you want to be good at least). Especially for the smaller devices, hardware knowledge (the smaller the more) and machine/Assembly code are requirements. This includes knowing "your" CPU, how it works, busses, etc. I've seen too many CS people who thought they can do embedded failing on this job. Interestingly, those are the reasons I like it.
 
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@Olaf Useful info there. If there was some sort of C++ embedded only branch I would be a happy camper. I did some industrial automation field work back in the days.
 
2:11 PM
@RawN Did you just built a close vote biorobot ?
 
@RawN I'm actually not a friend of C++, so: wrong addressee ;-) C is fine if you really know the language (and have a proper toolkit, including build-system). It often bloats code, without benefit; not to mention embedded-specific problems with e.g. virtual methods (performance), which can slow down code massively - relevant in e.g. interrupt handlers.
But there are some companies looking for embedded C++ coders (mostly because the recruiters and project responsibles heard it is better than C, but don't know even one of them beyond a PC-hosted "Hello World"). Problem is more they are often Automitive and they put a tight cast onto you (AutoSAR, MISRA, etc.), letting you hardly breath. Thanks, MBAs!
 
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@Olaf I see. Thanks.
 
3:32 PM
So, have you guys heard about the new Intel i9 EE and AMD Ryzen Threadripper?
 
4:14 PM
Better later than never? You voted to close this question 7 hours ago
 
@EJoshuaS Lack of research is not a close vote reason. It is a prefect reason to down vote though.
 
> prefect
 
:[]
:[]> Cookie monster with a beard. Or a house on wheels
 
4:24 PM
lol
 
lol
 
lol
 
wow
 
I can't imagine how you come up with this
 
4:42 PM
@Bugs yes :-( The flag is still pending...
 
@FelixSFD Thought as much, thanks (cc @suraj)
 
@TylerH "house on wheels" - short moment after leaving the road, going downhill?
 
\o
 
4:59 PM
o/
 
owo/
For those of you on the fence about Naked Chicken Chips from Taco Bell, they taste fine. They're really high in calories, though, and the queso they have is basically the same queso they have for chips, i.e. it tastes like processed queso.
390 cals vs 270 for equivalent McD nuggets
This has been your free food review.
 
o/
shines laser pointer around for the kitty
 
plz no, i too full plops over
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5:22 PM
lol
 
@Compass You should know that one part of passwords I'm frequently using is "f4Tc4T" ;-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Only because nobody can spell your username :P
 
<- Goes changin all their passwords now
 
lol
 
5:29 PM
@Compass Thanks, but I just had a 250g Supercheeseburger, all self-made. I'm full!
 
@πάνταῥεῖ deleted and reposted. Thanks.
 
@NathanOliver De nada ;-)
 
5:52 PM
Welcome to Stack Overflow. Please take the time to read The Tour and refer to the material from the Help Center what and how you can ask here. — πάντα ῥεῖ 3 mins ago
 
Did anyone of you ever heard about the term "bunglerlore"? A collegue mentioned that to me today. (no offense to the indians in general please)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I never heard of it and I think I want to keep it that way.
 
6:08 PM
@rene Well, there seems to be a prise of truth in that (from our experience).
And of course ther are a lot of bunglers writing software in munich as well. These are just big cities.
 
In which category we should put a request for comparison of two libraries/frameworks?
 
@Steve Asking for 3rd party resource, TB?
 
jrh
7:04 PM
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A: How to use WSDL

PaoloMaybe you just don't understand what a web service is supposed to do and how to use it? If so, try to read these two links: Web Service Tutorial - W3School How to create a Java web service - Java Forums In the second link it is also described how to create a web service client and how to use ...

Pretty much link only answer with two dead links
may or may not be a good fit for NAA, I wasn't sure. Either way it's not very good.
 
It is definitely NAA flagable. You could try and find the content on archive.org to at least fix the links.
 
jrh
I'll flag as NAA; suggesting edits to crap is risky
it just got deleted, thanks guys
 
looks like a lurking mod has handled it. Thanks for helping to keep up the quality of the site
 
jrh
not a problem
 
Oi, who called me a lurker.
 
7:10 PM
<-- This guy
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
muhahaha
 
@BhargavRao You have a case of the Wills now?
 
He is being willful.
 
lol
 
7:14 PM
@Machavity I was smoking wills :p
 
@BhargavRao As you're around (and I hope you're healthy again), I'd love to hear your opinion about that infamous "bunglerlore" joke.
We're just very disapointed about our indian coworkers.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Googling that led me to this sci.research.careers.narkive.com/LcS8J4cV/…
@πάνταῥεῖ Motivate them to work harder. They'll.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ there is a joke about that o_0
 
@BhargavRao If we do so, they're likely to produce even more sht. They don't grasp what the real needs are. Not to mentione the existing code base is a "Big Ball of S*t", and they should not orient their bugfixes or new features with regards on that.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ oh :(, you have indian coworkers ?
 
7:24 PM
Exactly, you should have informed them the correct way at the start.
 
Yes, Baum has a good comment for those
 
@Ðаn nice link, what do you want us to do with it, except clicking on it? Maybe you're looking for one of the [tag:cv-pls] things explained in our FAQ: socvr.org
 
7:33 PM
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Q: We're NOT out of [compliance]

Machavitycompliance 50 questions. Nearly every last one is about policy compliance, which is not related to software development (falls under support for your favorite company). The few that aren't could be retagged since this tag does nothing for cohesion.

 
8:28 PM
What about this tag wiki excerpt: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/16277688 ? It does offer (non)usage guidance.
but further it was and is a rather useless text
 
9:21 PM
Question
is that plagiarism?
 
Certainly looks that way IMO.
 
@Compass yes, have the mod look at the first revision to make the call
 
 
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11:41 PM
wow that has to be the rudest comment I've seen. bonus caps, swear words, and sarcasm
 
also a useless thanks sig
 

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