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12:48 AM
@mickmackusa IMO, it's still unclear. Due to the input repeating both within lines and line-to-line it's not possible to exactly determine what the output is supposed to represent.
 
1:18 AM
@mickmackusa Your most recent edit resolved the issue I had.
 
1:36 AM
Thanks Makyen. And thanks for that info on pinging.
 
 
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2:46 AM
@KenWhite Seems like "customer support for [your favorite company]."
 
@EJoshuaS Maybe that, too. Looked more like a wish it could do this too to me.
 
@KenWhite Definitely not a real question.
 
@EJoshuaS Agreed. BTW, two of the three in your last group above have been closed now, I believe. :-)
 
Excellent, thankx :)
Yeah, the tag draws all kinds of OT questions. is just as bad - it's pretty big for a burnination request, though.
Over 57k questions in that tag :(
 
@EJoshuaS New one for your reading pleasure.
 
 
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6:12 AM
I wonder, does this count as plagiarism
stackoverflow.com/a/38374422 <- the little code there is is copied whole cloth from the accepted answer 3 years prior
The only thing added is 1 explanatory sentence that doesn't say all that much
 
@Magisch I would say it is too thin to call it out for that
 
6:32 AM
Good morning \o
 
7:06 AM
\o
 
7:37 AM
From Smokey's last report, is this an answer? It reads like he's just pointing a finger, with a possible answer in the last sentence
 
8:07 AM
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Q: I'd like [tolist] all the reasons to burninate this tag

Sinatr93 questions: tolist. Does it describe the contents of the questions to which it is applied? and is it unambiguous? Yes, all questions wants a list as the end result at least. Is the concept described even on-topic for the site? Yes, it can only be applied to programming questions. Does...

 
there are only 2 open questions left (from 6) for -- stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/pmp
They are off-topic. Please help on closing and deleting these, so we can get rid of this tag. I did not create a Meta request, because there are only 6 questions, and they are clearly off-topic.
 
8:50 AM
How do I move messages to SOCVR Graveyard?
@kayess @rene any help?
 
@VadimKotov does that help ^
 
lol
 
@VadimKotov rene is the captain of the Graveyard Ship
 
@VadimKotov or do you have requests that are no longer valid? Because those go into the sanitorium
 
@rene yes. Anyone can do that?
 
8:52 AM
@VadimKotov no, only RO's
 
@rene thanks for the info
 
yw
 
9:28 AM
@rene which keyword?
 
@LW001 I would say too broad
 
10:22 AM
I'm on mobile atm
I use it on PC already ;)
 
@LW001 ok, thank you
 
 
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11:30 AM
Morning
 
12:33 PM
@EJoshuaS why is OP throwing shade on firefox without mentioning it lol
 
@adiga I was wondering the same thing, especially given that it's tagged "Firefox"
 
1:06 PM
o/
 
All the answers here make me really wish I had already started on my project for that meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/357951/…
I thought I'd have more time... they only put this one "on indefinite hold" like a few weeks ago. I figured it'd be at least til December when they revisited it
 
At least they are trying to fix a problem this time
 
Seem to
 
I've got to do laundry tonight, maybe I will be able to get some work done on it
 
1:23 PM
@TylerH you've enough money?
 
@rene for what
 
@TylerH to laundry?
 
1:48 PM
@rene It is free when you have your own washer and dryer
just adds to the electricity and water bill a bit
 
2:07 PM
I've tried doing work on my laundry, but there's too much give in it. The keyboard wobbles as I type, the mouse gets stuck in the creases and hems and tends to fall off the pile completely.
 
@adiga probably because he is immature and never developed for anything other than one browser before
 
2:23 PM
@adiga It's a typical lame "not my fault, it was the others" excuse.
 
Ron
o/
 
Ahhh! Missed train... Let's start it?
 
Ron
Apparently I am a silver badge deputy.
 
2:34 PM
o/
 
\o
 
Ron
o/
 
\o
 
actually I probably should have flagged as rude/abusive
pretty sure that's a porn site
 
Was just about to ask about that. I check to see if the question was plagiarized but didn't find a source
 
2:43 PM
I typed the term into google and it didn't give back promising results
I flagged the Q for mods to explain
 
It's not appropriate TLDR
 
Mod just nuked it
 
cool
ack
 
Unfortunately if it gets used as an audit I think it is going to cause problems.
 
diving deeper it looks like the OP approved a spammy edit that edited that link in
dunno if OP was just oblivious or was complicit
the spammer who posted the two deleted answers isthe one who suggested it I believe
has the same edit description text as the text in those deleted answers
 
2:47 PM
Oh, wow. Yep.
 
ah well, at the very least that will teach OP to be more discerning about random edits to his posts
if he was innocent
 
The OP's account was deleted. I'm guessing it was a sock/spam seed
 
well then
Sadly that means it will become an audit probably
 
time will tell
 
more like meta will tell
 
2:50 PM
in other news, I just got an email from a lady who has an oil painting of a woman breastfeeding a child... in her email signature
insertfrustratedpicardgifhere
 
:)
Seems a little inappropriate in a professional setting.
 
I was gonna ask in what context the email itself was
 
well she works at a women's health department of the hospital
so it's at least topical for her
but still
people shouldn't be putting any damn pictures in their signatures
because why
 
But a picture is worth a thousand words. That means I can send a email with just a picture ;)
 
apparently she is a "Lactation Consultant"
I wonder how much work there is in that field... seems like a pretty straightforward thing
 
2:56 PM
Not sure how common it is but there are issues. My buddies wife had to stop because it was just to hard on her.
 
@NathanOliver yeah but did she hire a consultant to tell her that?
or did she just decide "this is too hard on me. I'm stopping"
 
The latter. She wasn't going to spend money trying to figure it out when there is a readily available alternative.
 
exactly
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/46832944/… What to do with this? VLQ or broad?
 
@LW001 unclear
 
3:09 PM
Also should I mark this as a dupe of this closed post or just mark it too broad too (may also be off site resource aah)
 
3:19 PM
This is why I will probably never get my multithreading hammer: https://stackoverflow.com/q/46832246/758133

Really, when I see a design like that, I just want to cry uncontrollably and become a PHP developer:(
 
You'll be an awesome php dev. Everyone is ....
 
Ron
Haha.
 
Imma gonna ask meta for extra privileges in multithreading. I want to be able to issue questions like that 4 downvotes in parallel.
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/46833217 What exactly to do with this
 
@MartinJames you'll be locked
 
3:24 PM
@rene Well, I guess it would be a point of contention, yes.
 
Ron
@MartinJames Beware the race condition.
 
@LW001 the answer is yes, or it is too broad
 
@Ron ...but I want to race away from code like that.
 
Ron
@MartinJames Deadlock, that is.
 
3:26 PM
@rene Looks too broad to me, but I'm not got that tech, so someone else can cv it:)
 
@MartinJames yeah, IIRC the view is generated client-side so what they want should take place at the server first. or something like that.
 
@rene I hate it when I can smell that somthing is off, but can't prove it:)
 
@MartinJames like whether my girlfriend just farted in bed
 
Ron
Everyone fa*ts.
No biggie.
 
@TylerH She never does that to me:)
 
3:31 PM
o.O
 
@MartinJames heh
@Ron yeah but if you ask women, they don't fart gas, they fart glitter and rainbows
it is known
 
@TylerH Anyway, you can sleep with her tonight. After that multithreading code, I've got a headache.
 
@MartinJames funny, I had a headache all day yesterday
 
Ron
@TylerH True. Rainbows come out.
 
must have been prophetic
 
3:32 PM
Noon-time.
 
Ron
So do Nyan Cats.
 
I hope I get into this grad school
Then I can review philly cheese steaks forever.
 
@Compass Not tonight Joséphine, I've already eaten:)
 
Ploppity Plop
 
THAT WON'T STOP ME
pulls out a food tourism guide
eats food tourism guide
 
3:37 PM
Who forgot to turn off Compass again
 
@PaulStenne wouldn't we drift in that case?
 
VFR
 
@rene I'm fine with drifting for a bit, not you?
 
We're getting a chik fil a nearby soon
 
@Compass Cool, we just got our second one
 
3:40 PM
I've never been
 
You should camp out before the grand opening - whenever a new one opens, the first 100 (or is it 1000?) get free Chick-fil-a for a year
 
:|
can't do sponsored food reviews
that'd be cruel and unusual
 
hm?
 
(I'd get super fat)
from daily chik fil a
 
ah
well you don't have to go every day
 
3:43 PM
I AM OBLIGATED.
It ist der will of der free food coupon.
 
4:02 PM
Stepped into meta to look around, regretted it and frowned. =w=
 
4:13 PM
@Compass What??
 
@Olaf he is saying he would be obliged to eat at chick-fil-a every day if he had a coupon to eat free there every day
 
@TylerH So why doesn't he say that in a language at least two persons on this planet understand?
 
5:10 PM
@Olaf Der wunderkat ist makin ze Germanz up
 
what was he trying to get across
 
That offensive answer?
They were taking a test
 
@Machavity Ah, zat was zuppozed to bi Germoney? Wow, looks like I learned the completely wrong language as a kid (and all my books are wrong).
Well, the question is indeed OT. (and with all respect to the "be nice" policy), I can understand someone gets upset for spoilering.
 
tbh it must feel so terrible if some nerd posts the assignment and a teacher finds it on SO
i found three of my java excercises on here too already
 
@LW001 That's hardly a nerd, but I'm censored not allowed to say what it was.
 
5:25 PM
I wonder whether there would be less badly formatted homework dumps if schools were to block SO
 
They would just post at home
 
talking about school, is there a way to move my account away from google login?
 
@LW001 Yes. Link it to another credential and then de-link it from Google
 
@LW001 Why? Students would just use their private Internet. Also I'm strictly against censorship in general - nothing good from that in the long term at least. And it can be very helpful if they are able to read existing posts. In that way, I wonder how a 6 year old Q plus a 3 year old answer spoil in the current year. Or does that mean they invalidated a 3 year old test retroactively?
 
5:43 PM
Are there only Google and FB logins?
 
I just my email address
 
then i might just be too dumb to find that option
 
@LW001 You should be able to change it all here
 
Yeah I'm there
Is there really no other way than using facebook or google (or the other 4)
 
@LW001 I never used one of the authentication services. Worked without problems for me.
 
5:48 PM
TIL that Duff beer is not brewed in Springfield. Duff beer comes from a brewery sited in a mainland European country famed for high-quality cars, low-quality airports and, supposedly, high beer standards:(
 
@LW001 Do you have an email set up with them?
 
I have my GMail through the Google Sign in
 
Huh, I can't find a way to change my login from one email to another. Looks like they only use openid now
 
There's this thread on Meta.SE about converting it
 
Cool
That is a hell of a process. We should get the DAG on it ;)
 
5:59 PM
@Machavity Thanks a lot for that
 
@NathanOliver Directed Acyclic Graph?
 
@MartinJames Sure it is not Düff beer?
 
DAG - The team that only ever comes up in posts about retiring projects
 
@Olaf It's umlaut and taste-free. Aparrently, it comes from Am Hartholz.
 
6:03 PM
@MartinJames "Am Hartholz" sounds like a street name. Never heared of it. But after all you and @user0042 are out beer experts.
 
I heard beer
 
@LW001 Doesn't Actually Go
@PaulStenne No - just the shock that Duff comes from a German brewery:(
 
Ah well
I'm into Belgian beers anyway cc @Adriaan
 
@PaulStenne Duff beverage GmbH, Am Hartholz 1, D-8239 Alling, Bavaria.
 
Uh.
 
6:10 PM
@PaulStenne Yeah - how the mighty have fallen..
 
@PaulStenne hmm?
I was in a bar today at 15:00; we decided maths wasn't going to work out today anyway :P
 
@MartinJames That's a very old address actually. 4-digit postal codes have become obsolete with the German "reunion".
 
Ron
Is this asking for library recommendation?
 
Speaking about german, is my location on my profile actually german to everyone?
 
Ron
@LW001 It is.
 
6:20 PM
@LW001 "Wien, Österreich"
 
great bug
 
@LW001 Some decades ago, it was.
Why, is that wrong?
 
Shouldn't it rather show "Vienna, Austria"
 
Ron
@LW001 I would assume it shows what you choose.
 
@Ron TB, unclear or POB (what is "funny"?)
 
6:23 PM
 
@LW001 AFAIK it is a simple string field. See mine.
 
Ron
@LW001 You can type whatever you like in that field.
@Olaf In the spirit of this room I would say PHP is.
;)
 
@LW001 That one LW001box
 
?
 
Ron
Gone.
 
6:27 PM
@LW001 it's free form. If you decided to put in "Moon" it works as well.
 
lol that item @ starboard by rene, he mentions a trainstation... looks around
 
Ron
@NathanOliver Deputy at your service.
 
:)
You just got that today?
 
Grats
I got Marshal today
 
Ron
6:32 PM
@NathanOliver Yep.
 
@LW001 Congrats!
 
@LW001 Congrats
 
@Ron How is that possible??? Y U NO FLAG ALL TEH THINGZ??? ;) congrats
 
@TylerH Congrats
hiya Nat
 
6:37 PM
\o
 
How that
 
I got a declined flag for an edited NAA today :(
 
I'm stuck at 2700 flags :\
 
How @kayess
 
@LW001 suddenly :\
Too bad your flags get converted to CV's after >2.999k rep
 
Ron
6:39 PM
@NathanOliver In all honesty I blame my sensitive soul.
 
o/
 
@kayess That's what I thought at first, then I started flagging SD stuff, NAA/VLQ and comments and I had the same, if not more, flags
 
@kayess dont congratulate me :-P
I got the Marshal badge two years ago
 
Ron
I am only 4 months old on SO.
 
@TylerH being nice all the way! \o
 
6:41 PM
56 days here
 
@Olaf U're right, I trascribed it wrong from the can. It's actually 82239. I'll have a couple cans later, (Simpsons hilarity apart, it's probably quite good beer).
 
Does an edit suggested before a question is put on hold put the question into the reopen review queue if it is accepted?
The key point being it was suggested beforehand
 
Now I've had Duff beer, I only need a full Box-set of Itchy and Scratchy cartoons for my life to be complete.
 
I'm pretty sure it does, so I've been reviewing such edits (especially with Improve or Reject and Edit) while CVing
 
(84) Dios mio
 
Ron
6:47 PM
The red dot on the Review queues icon...
 
Yeah I find that red dot annoying now. I liked it much better before they updated it
 
I don't have a great red spot ATM. I just refreshed - not there.
 
@Ron since you were reborn Raw.. ;)
 
Ron
@PetterFriberg My second reincarnation. SO proved to be a powerful drug.
Hmm, seems like there won't be removal of the red dot.
 
Yes it's resulted in more reviews
so they will be keeping it
 
6:55 PM
I don't believe this - I just refreshed again, and the dust-storm from jupiter is back:(
 
wat
 
its because the reopen queue has 150 tasks in it, if it hits 151 it will appear again
 
@Ron Stack Overflow reviews, sponsored by the Red Dot Corporation
2
 
Meh, obviously the tipping-point has just been reached:(
 
What's frustrating is, on other sites with far less traffic, there's no red dots at all. Most sites do not have review queues like we do
 
6:59 PM
@MartinJames Bah, The Simpsons is not as it used to be. I'm watching "The Expanse" right now. Good "old" SciFi.
 
@Machavity Yep, SO will always be a special case
 
@Olaf Baht Simpson - the Thai version.
 
maybe if SE put some energy to avoid before posted all these obvious NAA, instead of concentrating energy on the design of the red dot, it would be no need for it.
 
I wonder what percentage of site views and usage SO has vs everything else on the SE network
 
Ron
@Machavity Haha, nice one.
 
7:02 PM
probably like 70%
 
@MartinJames Kim Jon Wiggins?
 
ooh, I just got to the active shooter module in our annual employee 'training'... a live demonstration would be way more exciting
 
#toosoon
Literally yesterday :O
 
oh it's a video at least
that's better than a questionnaire
 
7:11 PM
Well, at least active shooter response training serves a purpose. Better than "diversity training"
 
7:25 PM
@SmokeDetector what? Is that filler-garbage, or some obscure code? :s
 
@Machavity that serves a purpose too: don't be a sexist pig toward women or a xenophobic douche toward sikhs, muslims, etc.
 
arrg now user are also asking directions in answer, there is no end to all these NAA...
 
@TylerH If that's all they did, I wouldn't care. "Don't be a jerk" is something I live by. But more often than not, it covers silly things too, like "microaggressions", where violations are purely in the eye of the beholder
@Ron Dat hair...
 
Ron
7:40 PM
Haha, indeed. Some big cats are stepping on my toes with some deadlines. Had to let some steam off.
Read your contracts people.
 
Rude.
 
Ron
@Compass Haha, no pun intended.
Where have all the no pressure, passive income days gone? Was fun while it lasted.
 
why is there nothing to do in most low-level queues today
 
8:03 PM
@LW001 you have become too good at your job
prepare to be assimilated into the machine
 
more like I struggled to find 20 things to review in most
 
@LW001 you need to fill the queue, go back to flagging!
 
with sockpuppets eh
fun fact: Flagging is hard with 0 left
 
then answer some ;) at 3K there is nice queue with 10K items
 
let me just get to 3k hold my beer
 
8:06 PM
sure, pass it over!
I think the suggested edit queue opens at 2K also, that's the best queue to work on.
 
@TylerH You're saying you need such a training not to be a Trump?
 
@LW001 I already started at 16:00 today, I'll pass, thanks
 
@Machavity We are all jerks from time to time. And that's ok, as long as we are aware of it. I don't trrust people who seem to be not.
 
@Olaf No, are you?
 
Ron
8:12 PM
@Olaf Nice one. I got a few grey hairs from my last gig in China.
@Olaf I cracked a little but used duck tape.
 
@TylerH No, but I don't confuse being just upset or quick thinking (and talking) or impatience with aggression. And some people just enforce aggression by their dumbness.
 
reviewing LA without flags is a pain
It's like being hungry and seeing great food being carried in masses behind bars
 
@LW001 What bars? Chocolate bars?
 
more like metal
 
Ron
@TylerH Which package level did you choose for a Tucson?
 
8:18 PM
@LW001 Yes, that's hard.
 
at least i only have late answers left
 
@Ron Sport 1.6L Turbo
Automatic with the ability to flip over to manual shifting
 
Ron
I see.
 
front-wheel drive
I could have gone AWD but I don't need it really
it would have given me fewer miles per gallon and would have cost more money to buy
I haven't driven it on icy roads yet though so we will see how it responds in a couple months...
 
Ron
Makes sense.
 
8:23 PM
one thing I don't like about the Tucson (dunno if other cars are different or the same) is that you have fog lights, but they don't turn on unless your running lights or head lights are on
e.g. you can't have just your fog lights and no other lights on
 
Ron
I see. Maybe it's some legal requirement.
 
could be
I haven't read the manual's chapter on the lights yet
 
Ron
Seems I have some caffeine addiction. Went on a trip, haven't had a coffee all day. Splitting headache and muscle pain.
All gone after 2 cups.
 
Yep, caffeine is highly addictive
symptoms can sometimes take a week or two to fully clear someone's system after they stop drinking caffeine, if they've grown used to drinking a lot
like having multiple cups of coffee, coca colas, etc. per day
 
Ron
Nasty business.
 
8:32 PM
If you don't want to drink too early in the morning or are trying to quit/wean off, try eating an apple or banana in the morning. The high sugar content will help wake you up just as well
and since your metabolism is far more active in the morning, it won't have the same impact as having a high sugar intake later in the day
sometimes I will eat a slice of chocolate cake in the mornings for that reason (and because it's delicious as hell)
 
Ron
Sounds reasonable.
Hard to let go though.
 
Oh yeah for sure
 
@TylerH 1.6l gasoline does not sound like much power. How many HP and Nm is that? Btw, switching gear would have saved some more gasoline.
 
@Olaf 175hp, 195 torque, also what do you mean by 'switching gear would have saved some more gasoline'
 
He means that you need to put it in a higher gear once you're rolling. Don't try to do 60mph while in first gear.
 
8:45 PM
@rene I sincerely hope that's not what he means
 
I try to help, okay?
 
@TylerH Automatic is less efficient than switching gear. Hmm, and the torque is a bit low, it seems. Much less than my small and powerless Focus :-þ How fast can it go?
 
@Olaf automatic transmissions have been more efficient at fuel consumption than manual transmissions since the 90s
@Olaf It can go as fast as I need. I didn't buy it for drag racing
 
@TylerH Good one! But tht's not even true for highly priced cars. The difference has decreased, but it still has more loses than switching gear. Which is reasonable, as there are more moving parts.
 
Can someone do me a large favor and show me what the help and improvements queue looks like
 
8:50 PM
@TylerH Sorry, I always forget, you are not allowed to drive fast. (I certainly don't talk about drag racing; that#s a completely diffferent subject).
@LW001 Last time I saw it, it was green with purple spots, IIRC
 
@Olaf it's not a joke, it's true and you can read it on any car organization's website
you need to get out of your one-person echo chamber about life
 
@TylerH Yes, that might be true for people not used to switching gear. I wonder why manufacturers still show at least some 0.1l/100km more for automatic gear.
 
@TylerH Thanks
Also is that post literally dog food spam
 
@LW001 as you can see I don't spend much time in that queue :-P
it sucks
 
Strange, according to German Wikipedia, the Tuscon has be replaced by the ix35 in 2009, but the English WP still shows current models. It seems that is some US and Corea only speciality. @Ron: If you are interested, you should look for the ix35, unless you want to by an US car (with all potential legal problems).
 
8:57 PM
It's the dumping ground of what Triage plebs do eh
 
Ron
Haha, daym.
 
the worst thing about H&I is that it doesn't expose close votes or standard flags in the queue
so you can't see a post in H&I and say "this ought to be closed" as your review of it
 
Oh my god
 
and the only flag option you have is "this is very low quality" which sits as a text link off to the side
rather than under the post like normal
 
Yeah I get where you're coming from
 
8:58 PM
there's not much that makes sense about it
 
Ron
@Olaf It's rebranded my fellow European. Tucson is the code name now.
 
Why wouldn't they just add another blue button instead though
 
@LW001 It's a relatively new queue
 
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