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2:12 AM
Oh man...
 
Upvotes should cost at least 3 rep.
 
@TigerhawkT3 Never thought of that, but dang, that's good.
 
People would probably not get 50+ rep for answering "Why does integer division behave weirdly?"-dupes anymore.
 
Don't bring that kind of attention to posts.
 
2:20 AM
@Kyll Should it have been phrased as " Comment as answer (linked)."?
 
@TigerhawkT3 We also don't do NAA requests, as multiple flags have no incidence over the handling of NAAs and as such it brings useless negative attention to posts (and make us look evil)
 
And we're trying to hide our evil nature? :P
 
3:02 AM
Off to bed.
Cya! o/
 
3:40 AM
Hello!
 
 
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4:58 AM
!!/alive
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring
 
!!/alive
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Of course
 
 
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7:05 AM
How did that edit come through?
Asker accepted an obviously vandalizing edit. Worth a flag?
... then made an invisible edit to hide my rollback
Same asker, same vandal, rejected this time.
Aren't we targeting users by using this heuristic in Smokey, by the by?
 
7:28 AM
The question is still targeted by vandalism edits, stackoverflow.com/questions/41800808/… please reject, I have rasied mod flag.
 
 
Morning \o
 
Ola
 
morning
 
let's not mention that, OK?
 
 
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9:38 AM
@Magisch morning... I did not see the user... anyway mods took care of it...
> helpful - We've nuked the troll
 
> This question seems to be target of a large swath of vandalism edits (see: stackoverflow.com/posts/41800808/timeline ), so maybe locking it could be appropiate. – Magisch 1 hour ago helpful - We dealt with the troll directly.
 
10:17 AM
Damn it, Smokey fastest gun in the west... why does he yell about fishy posts and then instantly close them? Or is it some other bot doing that?
 
Message gets removed if/when the post is deleted, as long as it's not taken so much time that the message cant be edited or removed any more
 
But is says it was deleted by community? So I'm assuming some anti-spam script kicked in.
 
@Lundin 6 spam flags
MS says 2 people with FDSC spam flagged it: metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/54563
So 2/6 of those definitely came from smokey
More likely then not it already had a couple flags by the time it was reported (reporting doesn't happen quite instantly)
 
I went with spam on that
 
I spam flagged it but before I could delete-vote, it was already deleted. Suppose I caused the deletion with the final spam flag then.
 
10:29 AM
could be
spam on SO hardly lives long
between here and charcoal HQ spam flags just pour over spam
 
There's little point delete voting spam, the flags are enough
 
Thats also a point
Spam will 99,999% of the time accumulate 6 spam flags before it does 3 DVs
 
Ah, so this is the reason why delete vote reasons say "and not spam". It all becomes clear now :)
 
@Lundin Also, if a spam happens to get delete voted rather then spam-destroyed (what happens at 6 spam flags), there's no automatic IP ban or general ban on the poster, and no 100 rep penalt.y
Usually getting a post spam deleted for a new user means instant IP + q ban
 
10:51 AM
Morning all (@´ー`)ノ゙
@rene what's happened to andrewsi? Seems to have stopped reviewing
 
He probably got flowered
 
@Magisch Yup... if it's spam - flag it as spam. Don't waste close votes/downvotes on it.
 
 
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12:23 PM
What's the point of vandalizing your question after two months of inactivity?
 
@Glorfindel great minds think alike? :P
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is spam — Angel Koh 27 secs ago
urgh, some people
dropped him a comment on a separate answer of theirs
 
@Kyll as a threat
 
Morning
 
@EdChum Yeah, I noticed. I have never interacted with them so I don't know.
 
12:47 PM
Hiya \o
 
/o
 
I miss clicked there ^
 
1:08 PM
Could someone enlighten them?
50k members answering obvious "Too Broad" question just don't get it...need to rant...sorry
 
You better just not mention rep and users here explicitly I guess :\
 
Getting frustrated more and more seem to answer without regard for whether is a dup or not and when I pull them up about it, just got shot down and their comments usually having 2 or 3 votes, so people are agreeing with them!
Appreciate the support...if only it was just this one question.
 
@Lankymart will that roomba? Q is at -5, all answers are negatively scored, but one of them is accepted
 
JAL
morning!
 
@Lankymart well, they still earned 11 rep (+15 accept, -2*2 downvotes), so they earned net rep (though lost badge points towards a potential tag badge)
 
1:22 PM
@Adriaan I have the "roombacompatible" US installed and it prints:
> roomba accepted answer
 
@Adriaan appreciate the support thx, I'm not looking for it to be shutdown just want to educate people.
 
@kayess soo, no? I.e. do we need to put in a delv-pls?
 
@Adriaan I guess idk, that printout isn't too descriptive gotta dig the source
 
iirc there's something with accepted answers, however badly scored
 
The rep doesn't bother me, I guess while we have gamification people will always shoot for the low hanging fruit.
 
1:25 PM
@Adriaan as I'm able to decode it, it's an exception so it won't get roombad
 
yeah correct... need a couple of days before I can vote.., I will favorite it for later
 
@PetterFriberg tacktack
 
no need, it was deleted before I could...
 
jättebra
 
knäckebröd?
 
1:29 PM
Exactly!
 
@dorukayhan I thought we don't moderate meta. Did that change while I was not looking?
 
@rene I only at -198858 : (
 
I around 0 :p
 
I think we should do a new league of negative rep...
Tim \o, yahh another -100 rep...
 
1:36 PM
@PetterFriberg you work on that, right?
 
@TimCastelijns reject the edit there please, I used "Would put it in the reopen queue without improving the actual question."
 
on it
 
rejected
\o petter
 
@Adriaan you land on -50534
 
@PetterFriberg oh right, I was off by a factor 10
 
1:46 PM
is there an extension for chrome for posting cv-pls requests?
 
yeah
@Lankymart install tamper monkey and search for script on socvr.org
 
that is awesome...how did I live without this...thx alol
*all
 
2:22 PM
morning!
oh wow, all those cv requests...
 
:35252219 f
@gunr2171 \o
 
JAL
o/
 
yo
 
@gunr2171 afternoon here, but good morning!
 
JAL
morning for all our US folks
 
2:25 PM
Night here, But good morning
 
JAL
Because, you know, 'mericans don't care about anyone else :)
 
@JAL we're so screwed
 
JAL
indeed
 
Yeah, The World League sport contests are between the 50 different states.
 
JAL
well to be fair there are Canadian teams in the World Series
 
2:27 PM
And the Mexican teams are behind the .... ?
 
but no Japanese teams, and they love baseball just as much as we do
 
JAL
yeah I did a report on Japanese baseball teams in elementary school. Go Carp!
 
that teams sounds fishy
 
JAL
booooooooo
ooooooo
 
:)
that joke was an easy strikeout
a real slowball
 
2:29 PM
Is this an answer or a life story?
 
: ))))))
 
JAL
@Sami spam
 
@JAL thanks.
 
ninja'd
 
JAL
2:30 PM
jon'd
 
@TylerH I am all for keeping this tag on close worthy questions. I guess you wonder about few of my recent edits, these were only in the questions where 1) I had serious doubt if these are close-worthy and 2) where this tag looked really blatantly inappropriate (note the and here, if either of these conditions wasn't met I abstained of edits and either voted close or skipped these)
 
haha... lots of mod action on that one
 
:D
You ninja'd me in 3/4 actions @jon :p
 
I mean, that's his avatar. It's a given that he'll ninja you.
 
I can live with 75% :p
 
2:35 PM
Hi jon o/
 
@Louis hmm...not sure it's a very old question with very thorough answers. It probably wants protecting rather than closing.
 
it's ok to close old questions that have good answers. It won't get automatically deleted.
we as a room try not to deal with "old" posts because there are newer things that are usually more important, but things like this are ok
waffles
 
Just delete voting. He has "good" contributions
 
@gunr2171 I thought one focus was on "old items with new activity". Just old is OK and new questions should be handled by the normal close vote queue.
 
sorry, by "old posts" we mean "old activity"
 
2:44 PM
^ delete voted but looks like you can nuke it as well
 
@AdrianHHH but it's really a mixed bag of what you want to do. I don't think we should be archaeologists, digging up very old posts with 1+ years since last activity.
 
What if I stumble upon one with Google?
 
how can deal with that kind of answers ?
 
Looks fine to me
 
@gunr2171 Agreed. Don't be an archaeologist. But I was thinking of the SOCVR-FAQ words at (2) just after "Be responsible with moderation requests".
 
2:47 PM
Too late and the OP accept another A
 
JAL
@Sami nothing wrong with new answers to old questions, unless they are duplicate answers
 
So? OP accepts do not mean this is the answer. It just means this is the answer the OP liked
 
Ok
 
@AdrianHHH it all depends on what you want to spend your and the room's time with. If it's older stuff or newer stuff - that's ok. The only true metric is "how important is it that this post be closed?"
(side note: who made the font selection for the faq? it looks so, partially pixelated...)
 
JAL
doesn't look pixelated to me, might be your monitor
 
2:52 PM
meh
 
JAL
I will have to check when I get home on my brand spankin new 4k monitor
:)
 
nice
 
Howdy all
 
yo
 
yo
\o/ silver badge
 
2:56 PM
congrats
 
is there any benefit of silver badge?
thanks gunr :)
 
not at the moment. there was a meta.SE discussion about trying to make something for it
 
:( so much for nothing
 
Hot Meta: User Reposting - Then versus Now. Duplicates or related?
 
@ColdFire this one
 
2:59 PM
@JAL Wow. That must support, like, 20 Chrome tabs
 
@JAL No 8k monitor ? You live so in the past :P
 
JAL
@Rizier123 damn
 
an 8k monitor for $5k, too many "k"s
 
JAL
ha yes, and with 64 gb of ram I can have 20 windows with 20 tabs open!
 
@OhBeWise (still reading...)
 
3:01 PM
I've had a 4k monitor at work for a while, but never use it in a native res because 1. win 10 is crap with scaling and some apps like crap 2. I can't read the text.
 
@gunr2171 No hurry
 
@gunr2171 asked in 2014 and still nothing :(
 
@OhBeWise not duplicates. The older one is about reposting and deleting the old one.
 
@ColdFire It's well within the standard 6-8 year timeframe. Just be patient
 
3:07 PM
Is this POB? "What are the best practises(...)"
 
@ColdFire yes, you can unilaterally edit and approve edits on Documentation topics for that tag
 
@Machavity wait wasnt it 6-8 weeks and not years
@TylerH oh yeah atleast something \o/
 
@gnat I guess it's just a case where we disagree on close-worthy, then. I agree that tag is not at all relevant to those Qs where I saw it but I personally felt they were 100% close-worthy
 
As I know only users with Gold badges can close or open Qs , but this user don't have one (Jerry Dodge)
 
@Adriaan I'll say yes. The whole question is about human readability.
 
3:09 PM
@Sami That is the dupe hammer. any user with 3K+ rep can close and open a question
 
@Sami nope ^
 
@Sami no, they can single handedly dupehammer/hammer-open questions
 
Wow! so im wrong
 
@gunr2171 Ok gotcha, thanks. That's exactly what I was debating with myself.
 
hi wrong. I'm gunr
 
3:10 PM
@Sami Dupehammers are regular close/reopen. It just counts as 5
 
because when move my mouse on the Q , that what is create in the Popup window
Hi gunr , I'm wrong
 
: )
 
:)
 
;)
 
@ColdFire The meaning of weeks vary upon the mood of Tim Post :P
 
3:13 PM
does anyone have a idea of performance impact when you put a code block in try catch in java?
 
Depends on the language and implementation.
 
@Machavity oh....
oops forget to add java
 
@ColdFire Generally speaking, it's probably the same performance hit as an if statement
 
> Very Low Quality (VLQ) or Not an Answer (NAA) flag requests are not allowed here. Multiple of these flags on a single post does not process it faster, so bringing it to the room only creates noise.
@Sami ^
 
(Y) ok
you gunr :)
 
3:15 PM
@Machavity oh great, i have a code that is called multiple times almost twice a second
so was thinking whether it will be impactful
 
@gunr2171 not arguing since multiple NAA/VLQ flags has no sense but did you know it's probably handled faster if multiple flags.
 
Bhargav Rao delete that answer
 
user4639281
3:32 PM
@gunr what happened to your avatar? It's all gravatar-y
 
nothing. some other people have noticed it rendering wrong for them
 
user4639281
The small one renders right, but the big one doesn't
 
still looks fine for me, even with disabling chrome's cache
 
same for you tiny giant
 
user4639281
oh?
 
3:33 PM
I see tiny's new image (the good one, not the random pattern)
 
lol
 
oh lol that is a image
 
user4639281
:P
 
that's right
 
user4639281
Off to get my passport, have fun all :)
 
3:34 PM
ok bye
 
@TinyGiant I like this one :)
 
good luck, have fun, don't die
 
Bye
Lion die?
 
TINY CHANGED HIS AVATAR?!?!?!?!?!?
 
Yup
From yellow lion to black&white lion
 
3:40 PM
@NathanOliver yeah from a complete lion to only a head
 
half lion
 
what the heck. Did he even think what that was going to do to us? I think we need to have a mod change it back ;)
 
lol
 
NO ,i never thought i would say this but my MBP with 8gb and 128ssd is faster than my 12gb 512gb ssd hp
windows isnt very intelligent with pagefile
 
Anyway , better than a blue db
 
3:43 PM
@NathanOliver chaos ensues
 
JAL
flying pink head anyone?
 
@ColdFire yeah but what version of windows
 
no
@TylerH 7
 
@ColdFire because 8 and 10 greatly improve file system performance
including pagefile.sys and hiberfile.sys
 
Win10 with a SSD screams for me.
 
3:44 PM
what version of macOS is your MBP?
 
yeah i thought windows will use my ssd storage intelligently when 12gb runs out
El capitan
@NathanOliver good or bad?
 
The good kind of scream ;)
 
@NathanOliver SSD?
 
@ColdFire so, to be fair, your Mac's OS is 6 years newer than your PC's OS
 
@Sami Solid State Drive
 
3:46 PM
@TylerH i can install windows but i dislike 10 and 8
too much
 
That's great
 
I really would love to see the Windows 7 UI (natively, by MS) over the backend of Windows 10
 
but since there is no drivers for windows 7 for my graphics card
i have to install windows 10 crap
 
what card?
1060?
 
@ColdFire Why?
did you try PS?
 
3:47 PM
@TylerH amd r430
 
@TylerH Me too
 
@Sami ??
 
You can fix it by DriverPack Solution
 
@TylerH what is 1060?
windows 10 is not even a complete 0S
its purely half baked
UI is all over the place
 
check out the link @ColdFire
 
3:51 PM
@ColdFire on the back end it is really well done
They just borked the UI fairly badly, like you mentioned
 
yeah UI ticked me off
@TylerH what about the speed and RAM consumption?
and management?
does it handle multi process well?
 
@ColdFire did you check it ?
 
@Sami yes i did
 
I try it my self , and it's great
I have the V14 , and now it's V17
 
@ColdFire what about them? Windows 10 is optimized for use on all hardware and file management fronts way way more than Windows 7
 
3:57 PM
i mean i hope its not like windows vista
or the OS itself consume 4-5 GB ram
 
Why would it be like Vista?
Vista is pre-Windows 7
 
Win 7 is great
 
i mean shitty like vista not literally vista
 
No, that was Windows 8
In 10 you can largely get the UI of Windows 7 back, or you can get a free/paid UI mod like stardock or something that makes it exactly like Windows 7 if you really want
but anyway performance has improved markedly between each Windows OS, as one would expect
 
yeah gonna install windows 10 i guess then
 
3:59 PM
So Windows 10, being the 3rd version after 7, is much faster
 

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