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12:07 AM
@FirstStep o/
 
o/
How is it going guys?
 
user4639281
12:47 AM
@RiggsFolly That question isn't off-topic for the reason of not supporting piracy, piracy in and of itself is not off-topic, it is off-topic because it is too damn broad.
 
user4639281
Questions about how to pirate software can be super useful because they also teach us how to prevent users from pirating our software
 
user4639281
@QPaysTaxes Yeah I used to do that, kudos to you for making an effort.
 
@QPaysTaxes why bother with explaining closevotes? the "this question is closed/on hold" message explains why did 5 users vote to close on their behalf
 
user4639281
I agree with that sentiment. "Ok, I understand that my question may be too broad, but what part of it is too broad and why?"
 
@QPaysTaxes: A comment is rectified if the question has some good core. However, the two questions I posted are unsalvageable. For such, the CV-reason is sufficient.
 
user4639281
12:55 AM
I mostly do that with debugging / no mcve questions, because the message doesn't ever seem to explain it well enough
 
user4639281
25% of questions posted by new users get closed, regardless of whether or not they come back and ask good questions later on
 
@QPaysTaxes To cite room FAQ: we don't moderate users :-))
 
user4639281
No, we don't moderate users; however, we can all think about how what we do affects the users that we do it to
 
@QPaysTaxes That rule implies we don't care to salvage users either. Only questions
 
user4639281
Users can salvage themselves, they don't need salvaging from us
 
user4639281
12:59 AM
The whole question closure process is supposed to be a learning process for users
 
@QPaysTaxes No it does not. Not caring does not imply not being nice. Unless you consider the close-reasons texts being rude.
 
user4639281
@QPaysTaxes Standardized exams are supposed to be a testing process, not a learning process
 
user4639281
We don't close questions with the idea that all bad questions are posted by bad people. We close questions with the idea that bad questions are bad.
 
user4639281
It is your personal choice whether or not you want to be helpful in the user's integration into the community or not
 
user4639281
That is not required at all, but it is - in my mind - a good thing.
 
1:02 AM
@QPaysTaxes The definition of "being nice" is very much a cultural definition. In some cultures using terms like "Sir" or too polite terms is very well seen as an offence.
 
user4639281
Go hang out in a forum that has no close voting, no downvoting, and no community editing. See how much you appreciate Stack Overflow and it's user base after that
 
Some prefer a clear and open word.
 
user4639281
Back in a bit
 
user4639281
@QPaysTaxes My point is proven
 
Not telling anything, but leaving that to the voting system (and the text given by the mods) can hardly be not nice.
@QPaysTaxes Which word do you mean?
@QPaysTaxes I'll look up some phrases
@QPaysTaxes: Maybe "Some cultures prefer a straight word and feel pussyfooting around as offending". Hope that makes more sense.
It still is not exactly what I mean. Let's try an example: Some cultures feel offending if one straight says "you made a mistake". Instead they expect something like "we have a problem, what can we do about it?" (Although it is clear the other did make a mistake. I'd use the straight form and I prefer it from others, too.
I honestly would feel the "polite" variant as not polite, but just nonsense.
Instead the first variant is ok for me; it is not an offence to me (iff it really is my fault).
@QPaysTaxes as a ESL, I'm not always sure I picked the right translation. For such a sensitive subject, I just wanted to be very clear.
@QPaysTaxes That was the other phrase I found, yes:-)
See? That's another difference. We don't always weight every word (I didn't even think about that). That just generates too much friction. Thanks for the info nevertheless.
Well, no personal offence, but IMO this - fully applied - will end all communication. Just because - as you might have noticed from my example - what actually is seen offending can greatly vary. Even with time of day (I'm reacting pretty rough to hearing bad news before my "morning" tea and breakfast).
Freedom of speech implies you can express your feelings. And if you are angry, it is better to verbalise than ... well ...
But then you are in the most peaceful country in the world.;-)
Well, I avoid getting personal, too.
But I don't see much sense in my job not to tell what the problem is and - if necessary - who is responsible. That does not mean I'm always right. If not, I'm the first to pick the "Dork" hat and sit in the corner.
@QPaysTaxes I didn't say it (noticed the emoticon?)
@QPaysTaxes You're in good company with that! One "positive" aspect getting older is you see some longer term changes. To me it looks as if reading longer sentences and understanding them is a diminishing virtue.
Most ppl concentrate on either the first part or the last part (depending if they read the whole message or stop at the first punctuation character).
I always have a lot of macro-aggressions (they are definitively not micro) emailing to my phone/IP-provider.
@QPaysTaxes: good night!
 
 
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3:57 AM
o/
 
4:20 AM
ohoh bounty Q
spam on the way
 
 
1 hour later…
5:42 AM
new variant
 
^ just edit the image link out?
 
@JanDvorak the rest is just part of the question, so hardly a useful or relevant answer
 
oh.
 
6:14 AM
So, where is our team of spam hunters, :)
 
6:55 AM
Hiya guys
 
Plop!
 
I won't be here this morning so don't break all teh things
 
7:13 AM
Morgen
 
7:35 AM
Remember, swap is your friend and enemy at the same time
 
Aloha
 
@PetterFriberg o/
 
@Ferrybig \o @PetterFriberg o/
 
8:02 AM
@SmokeDetector should that question be protected, perhaps? it looks like it's going to be attracting spam in the future as well, just because it's the kind of question spammers like to tack on
 
@tripleee If you feel like it's a spam magnet you can protect it yeah
 
@Kyll OK, did so -- thanks for confirming
 
8:26 AM
@DalijaPrasnikar Haha, just saw you in the Watch =p
 
Good morning
 
Plop Mag!
 
Plop Kyll
 
@Magisch Good morning
@Kyll more a tool recommendation to me
 
@PatrickHofman Also yeah
 
8:43 AM
@Kyll ????
@PatrickHofman Ahhh, that :)
 
@Yam nope. OP just added the solution to the q.
 
Following question #pragma mark in Swift? has zillion two line answers restating same thing. Some have multiple up votes, I am not sure that down voting would be useful. What to do? Flag them as NAA? Do nothing?
 
@SmokeDetector k see the username
@DalijaPrasnikar last active 1 month ago. IMO do nothing
 
8:58 AM
@AshishAhujaツ the comment was apparently taken from github.com/preames/gpu-garbage-collection/blob/master/README
 
@DalijaPrasnikar Not an expert in the tag, but that needs serious cleanup. A mod could help or the community, but I would go to Meta first.
 
@tripleee so it's plagiarism also right?
 
@AshishAhujaツ the snippet is too short to absolutely qualify but it's spam anyway so it's not really meaningful to discuss plagiarism IMHO
 
yeah, it's nuked now..
 
9:14 AM
@PatrickHofman Meta it is. Cleaning up popular question...
 
10:10 AM
hmm saw another post sorry... edited to be less offensive.. within the edit grace period
 
:33188145 it was earlier offensive; was edited in the grace period metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/post/42116
 
Yeah I saw later...
 
@Henders please put a [tag:cv-pls] while doing that next time so that our bots and scripts can track it
 
@AshishAhujaツ will do, thanks! :)
 
10:18 AM
@Henders you can also install our cv-pls userscript to add a button under the post and also a check mark in the close dialog which will automatically post a cv-pls here
 
@AshishAhujaツ oh cool, I was wondering about userscripts but never really got round to it. I'll check it out.
 
user3956566
@Tunaki answered
 
@Yvette pretty big answer
 
user3956566
10:37 AM
@ColdFire it was an open ended question
 
user3956566
@TinyGiant can you give me a ping next time you're on and have some time please? Just want to have a chin wag with you some place quiet... no not a dark alley before you smarties start joking! ;)
 
@Yvette what is chin wag?
 
user3956566
@ColdFire talk
 
haha ok
 
user3956566
:-D :-] :-I :-] :-D <-- deomonstration
 
user3956566
10:46 AM
@TimCastelijns hey Commonswares awarded me a 250 bounty the other day! Proudest moment of my SO life :D
 
you didnt tell me :(
 
user3956566
@ColdFire You saw the post! lol you commented on it
 
@Yvette yes i did but at that time you didnt got the bounty , you left me out of the celebration :(
 
user3956566
@ColdFire so sorry, he awarded it the next day :/ can we celebrate now?
 
user3956566
I gotta do some housework.. bbl \o
 
10:55 AM
@Yvette yes sure :))
 
@Yvette well done
 
11:33 AM
Is this an offsite-resource-request? ô.ô
 
Sam
@Seth Meh, the last line could be edited out.
 
@Seth IMO no.
@SmokeDetector k see username
 
Morning
 
Sam
Hiya
 
user3956566
11:39 AM
@TimCastelijns and @ColdFire I submitted my first docs thingo. here
 
may you die a horrible death
 
lol
nice yvette
 
user3956566
@TimCastelijns I know it's the dark side.
 
So I heard the greatest thing on the radio today on my way to work. Apparently there is a joke video going around on Facebook showing a guy drilling a hole in a iPhone to expose the "hidden" headphone jack. This has caused people to actually try it to get their headphone jack back.
 
lol
 
11:42 AM
inorite.
 
user3956566
 
user3956566
IKR
 
Sam
@NathanOliver But I can still charge it using my microwave right?
 
user3956566
my colleague and I joke about it and he tells me to get an iphone.. I'm like nope
 
11:43 AM
@NathanOliver sounds like an urban legend, just wait for the media to retract in a week or two
 
user3956566
If @Kyll becomes RO does that mean I cannot throw him at people anymore?
 
@Yvette Have you seen they are working on a feedback system to "textureize" your screen? It should allow braille on a touch screen phone.
 
"oops, we thought we had learned to not trust unconfirmed rumors on Twitter, but we will have to try again"
 
user3956566
Worse still, If I become RO does that mean I cannot throw @Kyll at people?
 
@Yvette Nah. He is still fair game
@Sam Always. That was fixed in a software update ;)
 
11:46 AM
@NathanOliver I'm not sure how I should take this. Thanks, I guess =p
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver seriously? nice
 
@NathanOliver haha NO
 
@Kyll It just means the RO's are no different then regular users. We just put on the RO hat when needed.
 
anybody can throw kyll i guess
 
@DalijaPrasnikar On here =p This is in my Watch tab thanks to the [mobile] and [web] tags
 
11:47 AM
Eating waffles and tossing Spearrels is a SOCVR past time. That will not change ;)
 
user3956566
One thing I've realised is I always come back to this room, perhaps I should say I'm taking a short break rather than.. I'm never, ever, ever coming back ;)
 
user3956566
Now I'm hungry for waffles.
 
user3956566
Now that I bought two horses I have been eating a lot of apples and cannot afford to buy waffles.
 
@Yvette - 2 Horses?. Wow. The first thing I will buy is a mind...
 
@TheLostMind you will buy your own mind?
no wonder you lost your mind
 
11:54 AM
 
@ColdFire - Nope. I will buy a mind.. I am not saying Tuna's..
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind there's nothing wrong with your mind ;)
 
@TheLostMind you edited it
 
@AshishAhujaツ - Yes
@Yvette - Yes, the only thing wrong with it is that I don't have it with me :(
 
@TheLostMind fish mind's aren't useful anyways?
 
11:55 AM
@ColdFire - Oh fish and sperreals minds work in mysterious ways
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind ahh yes, point taken
 
user3956566
can we put an ad for it?
 
@Yvette - I've already tried that. Didn't work
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind calling for it?
 
@Yvette - Yes.
 
11:58 AM
Found a question, looked for a dupe, found one, The new one is better, closed the old one as a dupe of the new one. Lets see how well that goes down :)
 
user3956566
@TheLostMind snacks? treats?
 
user3956566
@NathanOliver link?
 
@Yvette - Ice Cream!
 
@TheLostMind I hear zombies are good at finding brains.
 
user3956566
12:00 PM
@NathanOliver that's looks ok
 
@NathanOliver - and eating em
 
user3956566
I LOOOOOOOOOOOVE ice cream
 
@TheLostMind Well you have to keep it on a leash, a muzzle would not hurt either
 
Everybody loves waffles ice cream
@NathanOliver - I don't like imprisoning things
 
@TheLostMind That's good of you. Just think of it as borrowing it. You can always set it free once you find your mind.
 
12:13 PM
lol
 
Although to be fair once you have your mind you will probably wonder why you thought using a zombie to find it was a good idea.
 
Oh I am not going to use a zombie, so i will never have to wonder why i used a zombie :P
 
:)
Speaking of finding things I read an article and in it they detail how they have started training dogs to sniff out USB drives and memory cards. Apparently the chips have a unique smell.
 
lol.. In WW2 surgeries were done on cats to add microphones in their bodies so that the allied forces could hear what the axis leaders were discussing :P
 
Wow. Hadn't heard that one.
 
12:21 PM
TLM is probably kidding
 
Why is this being downvoted to oblivion?!
Need 10k for that now ^. Had -13 in 3 minutes
Actualy, -14 in <2 minutes
 
Sam
@SmokeDetector vandalised again
Oh, the auto mod flag should've been risen by now, right?
 
@Sam rolled back
 
Sam
Yeah I saw.
We should probably stop. Just let a mod handle it.
 
Don't want an edit war. Mod flag and leave it
 
Sam
12:32 PM
2 mins ago, by Sam
Oh, the auto mod flag should've been risen by now, right?
The mods get notified if a post gets into a rollback war.
 
They hve an auto mod flag for rollbacks?
Oh nice
 
Sam
Yeah
I forgot how many times a post needs to be rolled back for it to trigger though.
 
@PatrickHofman that's not a valid cv-pls reason :P
 
@AndrewL. Lol. Indeed. Let's make it a custom close reason :)
 
@Sam I think 2-3 times
 
Sam
12:36 PM
Didn't @Kyll post something on meta about this?
@PetterFriberg Right
 
Shog said I think 3 times. Don't quote me
 
Probably ping him to death @Kyll @Kylll
 
haha
 
Yeah but you can also mod flag if you like
 
@Kyll @Kyll @Kyll @Kyll
 
12:38 PM
@Kyll nye the science guy
 
I'm going to leave the SD post alone. It should be auto flagged with my two rollbacks.
 
@Tunaki Tunak Tunak Tun :D
I found this and just had to link it
 
Can a moderator clear all flags for a particular post all at once?
 
@Rizier123 I think so. Might only be nuke flags but I think they can do all.
 
12:51 PM
@NathanOliver Because I guess that here: stackoverflow.com/q/39790885/3933332 my flagged got cleared with probably some other flags on the same post, but mine wasn't about the vandalism and I think, not sure though, that a mod just cleared all flags without reading mine :o Now I don't know if I should reflag it?
 
@Rizier123 Was it a custom flag?
 
Yup.
 
@Rizier123 Was it declined?
 
Marked as helpful: imgur.com/a/sYIR6
 
Okay. So what is the problem with that? The post has been locked and the OP probably got a message. Did you need something more to happen?
 
12:56 PM
I think that all flags got cleared on that post, including mine, thinking that all were about the vandalism, but mine was about having multiple accounts and trying to trick the system.
 
@Sam What?
 
Sam
@Kyll Weren't you the one who posted that meta q about what triggers auto mod flags?
 
Wasn't that Tiny? Or ChrisF?
 
@Sam no, was Brad or Chris
 
@Rizier123 Oh. I was miss reading you there. Where do you see evidence of multiple accounts. If you have that then I would re-flag.
 
Sam
1:00 PM
Ah
 
97
Q: What flags are automatically raised by the system?

ChrisFI recently had a flag declined. The moderator said it was the same as an automatically-raised flag, and therefore I was wasting my flag and my time in flagging it again. However, I didn't know this. What are the flags that the system automatically raises? When are these flags raised? Return to...

 
Sam
This was it.
 
Aaah that one
 
@NathanOliver 1) He has the same user name as this one: stackoverflow.com/users/6841663/alim-qureshi 2) The code in the question is identical to the code in the question from the other user 3) He already had a second account which got deleted: stackoverflow.com/questions/39713566/… Hope this is enough evidence :P
 
@Rizier123 Yep. I would mod flag with that.
Probably just an accident by the mod
 
1:08 PM
hi all
 
Sam
Hiya
 
my question was put "on hold"... how do I put it back?
 
Hello
 
Sam
It will depend on why your question was put on hold. Can we have a link?
 
-1
Q: Creating VB.NET dll without being admin

PierreI want to create a VB.NET library to be used from VBA. All internet tutorials tell me I need to use " inscription to COM Interop " However the compiler (VS) cannot add it to registery for I am not admin of my own workstation. How can I still create a DLL I can use from VBA without having admin ...

 
1:11 PM
@Pierre please don't post a one-box -- edit your link to include some text besides the URL
 
ok will do next time
 
and if you are posting it here without comment, we will probably try to think of reasons to close it (off-topic, policy violation, etc)
if that's not your purpose with posting it here, you are probably in the wrong plae
 
@tripleee He did comment.
 
hey Sam asked me for a link..;
 
^
 
1:12 PM
@Pierre ah sorry, missed that
 
Also we do not need to pester about the one-box for a first time chater. Lets help them first
 
sure, I missed the context, pardon me
 
no offense taken :)
 
Sam
Well I don't know about you guys, but it's not exactly the most TB question I've seen.
 
1:15 PM
not knowing the domain, it seems vaguely problematic without any details, but rephrasing it to show the command you tried and maybe linking to something which shows that it requires admin privileges might help
 
Sam
^
 
Plus, great first step to come and ask for feedback :)
 
actually the idea is simple: I just want to use a DLL from VBA. Windows 7
but visual studio needs me to be admin for the way tutorials give
 
@Drew The user did apologize for the code from yesterday. Thanks for the assist.
 
1:18 PM
however it seems C++ can be linked, there has to be a solution :-(
 
Sam
@Pierre VS won't let you reference a lib without being admin, wat?
 
@Pierre yeah, so link to a tutorial (or ideally several) and note how they all say you need admin, and emphasize how that's a blocker for you
 
it tells it has to be added to registery
ok thanks
 
(bonus point, check spelling of "registry")
 
(non native speaker here, sorry )
 
1:19 PM
(me too)
 
Sam
No problem. When you've edited your question feel free to come back for a second opinion.
 
@Pierre you have have fresh comment on it, check it out, it directs to msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms973913.aspx
if still problem update post as indicated (what you tried, where you get the error) and consider what you learned from that link
 
thanks Petter, i'm having a look, sounds promising :-)
 
If you update your post, you are welcome back to have us check it again..
 
thanks! (i'll check out your link, first)
i think I did the mistake of googling my problem in french :D
 
1:25 PM
we got another sam
 
waffle :D
 
o/ everyone
@PetterFriberg @NathanOliver @ColdFire o/
 
Sam
o/
 
1:29 PM
@Sam o/
 
o/
 
Hi @FirstStep, I enjoyed that question :P Good answer imo
 
\o/ afk - going to shop some...
 
@Henders Good morning :D It was and still fun time
 
Sam
@PetterFriberg Ah yes, that familiar battlefield.
 
1:31 PM
@FirstStep OMG. Saw diamond. had mini panic attack ;)
 
@PetterFriberg nice
see another answerer name @FirstStep
 
Plot Twist: The first answer IS HIS BOSS
 
Hiya Jon
Would it be bad to close this as a dupe of the link in my comment? Its attracting trash. I guess we could just go to broad.
 
@FirstStep really?
 
1:39 PM
@ColdFire Plot Twist means sudden irony, or like unexpected change of events. So it is a joke :)
 
i know what plot twist means
 
morning!
 
@gunr2171 I'm guessing you pinged because you wanted the meeting room unfrozen and TLM has already done that?
 
@Louis Actually MCVE, not unclear
 
@JonClements no, wanted a mod chat
 
1:44 PM
@gunr2171 is that still the case?
 
Yes. However, about to leave for a meeting. Are you around in 2 hours?
 
Yup - I'm around in two hours...
 
Thanks.
 
Sam
Hi gunr
 
yo
 
1:46 PM
Hiya gunr
 
Hiya
 
plop!
 
Blob!
 
@FirstStep Gotta do my part everywhere =p
 
2:04 PM
 
@JonClements I'll raise you youtube.com/watch?v=15eu7ar5EKM
 
@JonClements Actually worse than youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
@NathanOliver GH RULEZ!
Just learned that the walls or door of my office are paper thin... and some of our devs don't appreciate good music.
 
sure I've posted: youtube.com/watch?v=8zNf4sOO_mg before... still a beautiful song though :)
 
@Mogsdad lol
Can't listen to country
 
but I do not want to go into the graveyard, it's scary and there is a grave robber in there
 
@NathanOliver Should have thought about that before you made your request! :P
 
Really, it would be impolite to ignore a request. We're waiting..... (¬º-°)¬
 
lol
 
2:28 PM
:-P
 
Ha, that artwork... :P
 
Sam
@NathanOliver xD
 
morning
 
Sam
Hiya
 
2:34 PM
Hiya ryan
 
mroning Plop ryan
 
yeah really unclear kkkk
 
@NicollasBraga Note that you don't need to provide feedback on all posts =)
@Kyll Lobotomized
 
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