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12:03 AM
@Olaf Yeah. I really miss him. I've got various books (there are soo many). Started with Colour of Magic, but one of the funniest is that with the communication techniques (flag towers) don't have the title at hand. It was also made a movie (one of several). Even liked those mostly
 
Well, I think his middle books (90ies/early 2000s are his best. "Mac Best", "Small Gods" and others with Esme, Nanny Ogg, etc.
"Guards, Guards!" of course. I'm not that much a friend of Rincewind, although a later book with him was also pretty good.
 
@Olaf I always expect DEATH to appear. One of my most favorite characters :)
@Olaf The chest beats rincewind much a way :P
 
Yes, but I mean the whole Rincewind setting. Problem is he wrote a lot of those books at a very early stage, still developing his style. Does not mean I don't like them. They are still far better than a lot of the books pushed today in the media.
Btw. There are audio-books of his books in German, some are read by Dirk Bach (honestly one of the very few great german comedians); they are really worth to listen.
One was "The Fifth Elephant" (one of the best imo).
 
@Olaf I didn't knew about the audio books. And Dirk Bach recently died also :( I should give these a try.
@Machavity I'm just following you blindly, no expertise ;)
@Olaf I've got that as an ebook, great story. All that dwarf wars and such. (imagine a female dwarf I'm still not sure how to visualize this :P )
 
12:21 AM
Dirk Bach died some years ago already. Also a great loss. I once met him - in London.
Gertie, yes.
(Along with Hela von Sinnen - an unpleasant person)
 
@Olaf Somehow yes :( ...
@Daedalus If I follow @Machavity I'll do that for you too. Just excuse me and Olaf are spamming the room ;)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I appreciate your... blindness ;)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ No worries on the 'spam', though I'm afraid I don't understand the first part. However, don't let my misunderstanding interrupt things :P
 
@Machavity I trust you man!
 
@Daedalus (and others): FYI en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discworld_(world)
In case you need some ROFL ...
 
12:29 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Reading up, I now understand. As to @Olaf, I really need to read those some time; saw The Hogfather, but that's my only exposure to it.
 
@Daedalus Hogfather is another book I own. The stretch relation with the tooth fairy and the bogeyman is awesome. And DEATH is much present. Love it <3
 
@Daedalus: I'm not so much for the movies (although the Hogfather was good quality). And that book was not such great. Scroll back some line in the chat, I listed some. A good start would be "Mac Best"(sic!) or "Guards, Guards". Both start a series of loosely connected books
 
@Olaf I still have a few unread books I need to catch up on. Just been so busy lately I haven't really had time to just sit down and read. :/
 
@πάνταῥεῖ: I have 1 1/2 80cm Ikea "Billy" with Discworld books.
 
@Olaf Wasn't Mc Best called Masquerade? Not sure if that's another book.#
@Olaf :)
 
12:33 AM
No, that's a very different book.
Mac Best was the first with Nanny Ogg, Magrat and Esme Wetterwachs (not sure if that's the same name in English?)
 
I've got a tablet. Some books at my shelf though :P
 
@PraveenKumar Forgot they can comment actually probably :P NAA
 
Even if, an answer shall not be used to comment.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ :P
 
12:39 AM
Had one like that some hours ago. Insisted hes comment was that valuable that it rectified using an answer. Hmm, still waiting for a mod.
Ah, "Granny Weatherwax"
 
LoL...
I added an answer.
I am sceptical about the user! John Doe uh???
 
@PraveenKumar why are you capitalizing lol in that way? (LoL)
 
@bwoebi Laughing out Loud... :P
I do that always... Not many have questioned me.. :)
Welcome to the list...
 
Soryy, "Mac Best" is the german name. It's "Wyrd Sisters" in original.
 
LoL...
 
12:44 AM
@PraveenKumar yes, why? I mean, loud and laughing are just adjectives and verbs … I mean, why don't you capitalize the adverb out then?
Are adverbs lesser than other words?
 
@bwoebi Eh... Someone help me answering this...
I feel out being considered like of... :P
Since both start with o.
 
I mean… you … are discriminating the poor adverbs!
 
@Olaf Its about the midwards witches, is it? I think I read that once.
 
@PraveenKumar The difference is that of is mostly redundant and can be usually left out by swapping word order and adding an s...
 
So who is believing in A'tuin`Hands up please.
 
12:47 AM
I mean … why don't you just LL? like Laughing Loud? @PraveenKumar
@πάνταῥεῖ Eiiih… what is that?
 
@bwoebi Fail
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yes. The german title actually gives a good hint of the contents. Funny, as most Germans are not that familar with Shakespeare
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I mean, I believe in that there are many things which we don't know of yet, but not sure whether to believe in that specific thing.
 
@bwoebi :P
@bwoebi LoL
 
@bwoebi Hard way to turn it around :/
 
12:50 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ: Pratchett made quite clear the Discworld is not our world. So: why not. I already believe in his Spaghettiness, Discordia, so why not a giant tortoise?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ now illuminate me and tell what it is :-)
 
@bwoebi: google is your friend;-) Just say "yes".
or "I do" :-)
 
@Olaf I should wear a Spaghetti sieve as my hat :)
 
@bwoebi: Illuminate is quite the correct term :-)
 
I … wat … wait … wut … Eih…
 
12:52 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ I need mine to hold my goddess
 
I'll just answer
@πάνταῥεῖ Indeterminate.
 
@bwoebi: out-of-context error?
 
Nope. Just a superposition of believing and not believing in it :-)
 
@Olaf As being a buddhist I'm free to do many things. As for encouraging Zen, even more.
 
Hmm, in an infinite universe. You just need to calculate how improbable it is.
And get a really hot cup of tea.
 
12:54 AM
@bwoebi Schrödinger Okey ...
 
Is there anyone who I know here... :)
Where are the mods and regulars? :P
 
@PraveenKumar: How do we know who you know?
 
@Olaf :D
 
I hardly know myself.
 
That's LoL... :P
You are Olaf...
 
12:55 AM
@PraveenKumar snoring
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Ha ha ha...
 
Nope. That's my name. Or maybe not.
I have doubts
 
@Olaf Short Long term memory loss...
 
Mhm… I need to finish my SO answer … preferably tonight… I'm already at 15k chars and still not yet finished…
 
15k chars? :o
 
12:56 AM
@PraveenKumar: Identity crisis. I'm a union and lost my type.
 
@Olaf Not a unicorn right? :P
 
@PraveenKumar The longest SO answer I'll have ever written upon submission…
 
@PraveenKumar: I'm afraid an answer could result in a kick ...
 
@bwoebi And it would say, sorry, only 1500 chars accepted! :D
@Olaf Yes, it would!
 
@PraveenKumar Limit is 30k chars :-P
 
12:57 AM
@Praveen I'd suspect you know me at least :)
 
@bwoebi Woah... When did that increase happen?
@πάνταῥεῖ I know you mate! :)
 
@PraveenKumar It always has been that high?
 
@bwoebi Tutoring?
 
Coming here after a long holiday seems crazy..
 
@Olaf hmm?
 
12:58 AM
@bwoebi Noopes...
 
It's going to be an explanation how to verify the addition of two binary numbers with PCRE regex.
 
I just wonder what answer is trhat long.
 
@Olaf me too...
Okay, so Hi Olaf... I am Praveen...
 
And 90% of the chars is the regex, I assume?
 
One of the Ex Regulars here... Haven't met you yet..
Ha ha ha...
 
12:59 AM
Hi @PraveenKumar, I'm Olaf :-)
 
@Olaf no, more like 20%
 
Nice to meet you
 
It was just Olaf and me were too lazy to troll of to our own room (where we even talk in german comfortably). Don't ask me why, it just happened so :)
 
See, now you know about yourself.. :D
:) :)
 
@PraveenKumar meta.stackexchange.com/a/176447/219634 … At least since 3+ years…
 
1:00 AM
@bwoebi thanks for that... Looks like my brain drained... :(
 
Yes, sorry, if we are that OT.
 
It's 2 am in the morning...
 
Gut, wenn ja 75% der Anwesenden Deutsch bevorzugen, dann reden wir halt mal Deutsch :o)
 
@PraveenKumar: got me - darn!
 
@Olaf your profile looks awesome mate... :)
He he he...
 
1:01 AM
@bwoebi Olaf is one of the c 1%ters, take care :)
 
Kein Problem. Widerspruch bitte auf Deutsch.
@πάνταῥεῖ. Context please?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Not sure what you're going to hint at?
 
@PraveenKumar: In what sense? good, bad?
 
@bwoebi Ach nö, Du auch??
 
Good mate... Seriously...
 
1:02 AM
up? down? lef? right? Green? Red?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Joa, aber ein Deutscher bin ich deswegen noch lange nicht :-P
 
Ih, ein Ösi. (oder gar ein Schweizer?)
 
@bwoebi Schweizer oder meine notwendige Zuflucht, grad rüber wenn Seehofer durchdreht?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Luxemburg ist ein bisschen weiter weg ;o)
 
up up down down left right left right b a
 
1:05 AM
@Olaf Ich bin doch kein Südländer!
 
@PraveenKumar: Problem is most potential customers here don't belive I really can work in all those fields.
 
@bwoebi Ah. OK Luxemburg hab' ich immer nur Kaffee gekauft (und geschmuggelt)
 
@Olaf Check me out... :)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Ist der so teuer drüben?
 
@bwoebi Ah jo, das lohnt sich schon
@PraveenKumar sag doch mal was auf Hindi :)
 
1:07 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ Enna da solla vare? Onnume puriyala! :P
 
@bwoebi: Sorry, wollte nix unterstellen. In die andere Richtung gibt es halt weniger Optionen.
 
@Olaf War auch nur gespielte Entrüstung ;o) Aber ihr Deutschen denkt halt immer von den südlichen Nachbarn bei nicht deutschen Deutschsprachigen...
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Denke nicht, dass nur Hindi in Indien gibt. Indien hat über 72 verschiedene Sprachen, und ich komme aus einer Stadt namens Chennai, Tamil Nadu. Ich spreche nie Hindi. :)
 
I just had to check what room I'm in.
 
lol
 
1:09 AM
@bwoebi: Wer sagt, dass ich Deutscher bin?
 
@undo Hey!! :)
Finally I guess we are in the right room!
Long time it has been...
 
@undo: A multilingual with a lot of confused users.
 
@PraveenKumar Google Translate didn't digest that well ;)
 
@Olaf confused kittens*
@πάνταῥεῖ LooooooL
@πάνταῥεῖ That's Tamil...
 
@PraveenKumar Dein Deutsch ist ausgezeichnet
 
1:10 AM
Warum sprechen plötzlich alle Deutsch hier?
 
@Olaf Niemand. Und ihr war jetzt eine Verallgemeinerung auf alle Deutschen, wo du hinzu oder auch nicht zählen magst.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Danke an Google übersetzer!
 
@Machavity ONE BOX ALERT!
 
@PraveenKumar There was an es missing in the first sentence, thus I guess it was meant ironically.
 
1:12 AM
@bwoebi: Ich bin schon Deutscher. Sehe mich aber nicht als "typisch" an.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Try this Google Translate
 
@PraveenKumar Yeah, can't upload first and then get a URL like sane people...
 
@Machavity LoooL
 
@undo Don't worry we're all nice. NP
 
:)
 
1:12 AM
@Machavity Ha ha ha...
 
@Olaf Wie viele Deutschen sich wohl als nicht typisch Deutscher identifizieren … irgendwo gibts eine Grenze ;o)
 
@undo Hey!!! :D
 
someone's excited to see me :P
 
@Machavity: ROFL!
Dumb question, dumb answer ...
 
@PraveenKumar I like these characters
 
1:14 AM
@bwoebi: Stimmt ja, Schengen ist ja ausgesetzt :-)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Learn Tamil... :)
 
@Olaf :-P
 
Hello!
 
@bwoebi Och ich bin ein typischer Bayer, auch wenn die meisten sich nicht mit mir identifizieren würden :)
 
Naja, falls es ein Indikator ist: Ich sehe kein Fernsehen, mag Wetten das nicht und hasse Festumzüge ...
:-)
 
1:15 AM
@NobodyNada Nada Nada...
 
@NobodyNada sers
 
Guys... Kindly stop German... Our mod is here... ;)
 
Did I miss much in the past 2 weeks?
 
@NobodyNada You too Brutus?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Wait… these are characters? I thought that were scrawls of a 3 year old, separated by a small kerning…
 
1:17 AM
@PraveenKumar Might wanna reject the edit too
 
@PraveenKumar Is german (or bavarian) considered rude in general?? That's not fair.
 
@Machavity Approved it... :(
@πάνταῥεῖ Ha ha... Not at all... This is English StackOverflow... Please be fair to others... ;)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ: Depends. I'd be carefull in some Hamburg areas ;-)
 
@PraveenKumar Of course. But to state it again your german is excellent ;)
 
@PraveenKumar Sorry, but I have to ask that: do you indeed speak German or was that some translator?
 
1:21 AM
@Olaf I'm not afraid. If I'm anyhow sticking to soccer (which I'm usually not) I'm a St. Pauli fan of course :P
 
@Olaf G Translator... I just said...
@πάνταῥεῖ Mate!!! Google Translate... I am 0 in German... Only thing I know is krankenwagen which means Ambulance... :)
 
@Olaf (Als ob die meisten Deutschen das alles tun würden. Der Stereotyp ist nur eine Vermischung einer Multitude an Typizismen…)
 
@PraveenKumar Okey Google translator is frickin' good :)
 
(yes, I'm sometimes slow on the uptake). Hmm, that sentence was not bad then.
 
@bwoebi I am 0 in German... Only thing I know is krankenwagen which means Ambulance... :)
 
1:23 AM
@PraveenKumar I wish you'd never need that
 
@πάνταῥεῖ :P Ha ha.. Thanks.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Well, he needed it right now, to tell us the only word of German he knows :-P
 
@bwoebi Ah... Right... :)
 
@bwoebi I meant the physical LaLü
 
@bwoebi: You'd be surprised how much still go to these events. We currently have some Fair in our small village. But you are somewhat right, the atmosphere on theses events has changed a bit. But then the Heidelberg area is quite multi-cultural anyway
 
1:26 AM
@Olaf as a rule of thumb… crowds usually look bigger than they are…
 
@Olaf Our Herbstfest in Rosenheim was not that much frequented this year. People are frightened actually.
 
@bwoebi: Not if I'm in it ;-)
 
:-P
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm really wondering about that high-security Oktoberfest. As I read, they make it a high-sec prison right now.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I overhear people being frightened… and when confronted with why, they rarely have real arguments to bring up…
 
1:29 AM
@bwoebi There are none. Terror becomes Terror if you let someone terrorise you.
 
@Olaf exactly.
 
@bwoebi There aren't any arguments, even not after Ansbach or so. Who am I that terrorists would force me to stay in my flat?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ A counter-strike player?
 
@Olaf No I'm an anarchist. Worse person they ever could think of.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Depends on probability of attack too though… But it's currently so low … even, as you say, after Ansbach etc.
 
1:33 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ The most missunderstood political concept. And the only(?) not tried yet.
 
@Olaf I'm afraid it is. There's a wonderful book by Ursula K. Le Guin, "The word for world is wood" that digs up with that topic. The point is you can only live it, no matter what. Even in Bavaria ;)
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm not so sure. Main problem is that it requires people really feeling responsible for the community and a strong sense of fairness for all. It is nothing you can truely practice just on your own.
And we are quickly moving away from fairness.
 
1:48 AM
@Machavity or @PraveenKumar or @Rizier123 or @bwoebi any of you guys around?
 
@Drew Here here...
 
@Drew yes
 
Tell me...
 
ok pdo this target here stackoverflow.com/q/3726505 on this new Q here stackoverflow.com/questions/39552947
PDO::ERRMODE_EXCEPTION
 
> PDO::DONE_AND_DUSTED
 
1:51 AM
ha thx
 
:) :) Anytime bro.
 
E_TOO_SLOW
 
Hi @drew
 
greetings Olaf
 
@Undo I deleted the message without thinking, but I noticed that the metasmoke link in "Blacklisted user - blacklisted for stackoverflow.com/a/37891896 (//metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/posts/by-url?url=//stackoverflow.com/a/37891896) by chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/31216725#31216725 " didn't get formatted as a link.
 
2:00 AM
Morning
 
@Olaf One can't do that on your own. That's probably right.
 
I … am … finished!
 
@NobodyNada huh, looks like chat doesn't like multiline relative links very much
 
0
A: Match correct addition of two binary numbers with regex

bwoebiTL;DR: Yes, it indeed is possible (use with Jx flags): (?(DEFINE) (?<add> \s*\+\s* ) (?<eq> \s*=\s* ) (?<carry> (?(cl)(?(cr)|\d0)|(?(cr)\d0|(*F))) ) (?<digitadd> (?(?= (?(?= (?(l1)(?(r1)|(*F))|(?(r1)(*F))) )(?&carry)|(?!(?&carry))) )1|0) ) (?<recursedigit> (?&add) 0*+ (?:\d*(?:0|1(?<r1>)))? (?...

\cc @undo ^ ;-)
 
is the multiline links the problem, or is it the protocol relative link?
//metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/posts/by-url?url=//stackoverflow.com/a/37891896
yeah, the problem's with protocol relative
 
2:02 AM
Yeah
Although I think there's a possibility for that message to become multiline, in which case stuff might get really weird
 
yeah, multiline breaks formatting
 
18196 characters…
 
I think I'm going to go to bed now...we just got back from a trip, and I have to get up early for church tomorrow
 
I should probably write shorter answers in future…
:-D
 
@bwoebi: Wow, that's truely quite a work. But seriously: would you really use that in production code or better use a "normal" programming language? I mean, I can work out and read simple reex, but that one - pew!
 
2:06 AM
@Olaf No, I never would :-D
That's a rather academical task
It's in some way a follow-up to stackoverflow.com/questions/39306590/…
@Olaf It's more a show-off
I mean, you'd also never match incrementing integers with regex… you'd explode in PHP and iterate over them, trivially.
 
Yes, others build a model of the Eiffel-Tower with matches ... or route a complex multilayer PCB just for fun ;-)
 
@Olaf PCB means?
 
Printed Circuit Board. That where the ICs in your Smartphone, PC/Mac/Amiga are solder onto.
 
Yep, thanks… I know what that is… just not trivial to reverse-map initialisms with insufficient context…
 
I have some hardware projects which I seem to never finish, but update to more modern SoCs/MCUs etc. from time to time and route the interconnects.
Somehow there always come something more important in-between (must earn money, more interesting stuff, not in the mood, start some software project, newer/more interesting devices, etc.)
 
2:13 AM
@Olaf But still, I rather aim to teach, with the most important point being how to approach something. You only get a feeling for it by really exploring the approaches. The most important information of the whole for me is the "Checking addition at a given offset" section and the usage of arbitrary (?<group>) as flags for usage in conditionals as (?(flag) … | …)
But as you can always best teach with real examples… there it is :o)
 
@bwoebi: Well, unless you have a bunch of uninterested students with youtube-access in a C-programming class who think "we pay for the exam, so why bother?" ...
 
@Olaf I admit, writing and debugging this regex alone took me a good 10 hours. And another 6-7 hours for the write-up. … You really need to have time… But it was so interesting it really deprioritized everything else…
@Olaf not sure what you're saying?
 
@bwoebi: Oh, I'm really fascinated. Maybe I'm getting too pragmatic the last years. Maybe because of getting older, but I somehow lost a bit of my enthusiasm.
That was an actual experience I had with a bunch of students. The result was there were 2 of 7 who passed the exam. None better than ca. 50%.
 
@Olaf Well… we're achieving more and more things and to feel something like happiness for achieving the things we do need to be more and more obscure … so that we find anything interesting and motivating enough :-D
 
I let the questions check by some friends of mine who trhought they were not too hard.
 
2:21 AM
@Olaf I mean, what are you referring to with unless? I seem to have missed context.
 
Yes, that might be the problem. I should try bungee jumping or something like that. Just need a very strong rope ... :-)
Oh, I refered to your post before that about "teaching". Imo that requires two sides: a teacher and someone to be taught.
And the latter was a problem.
 
I just want to teach those who are really interested… I think this regex is, while not too complicatedly explained - I hope so, quite challenging to follow all the explanations though
 
Well, no one forced those students (not school, but a private university) to go there. Opposite: they paid quite some money per month. Problem was, they had the attitude "we pay, so teach us, but we don't want to do any homework or other effort".
 
@Olaf Yeah, that seems a common attitude. Having to work with this kind of people is a hard job, and I even would deny to take it.
 
@Olaf I really feel like I've already achieved too much too fast … I begun 7 years ago with programming. Started with PHP, fast forward 1.5 years, started learning other languages (I'm currently at like 7 seriously used languages) … toyed with a little game … made a phone app … got into PHP core dev, learning much about C and exploiting the weird things POSIX provides (uh, hello segfault handlers, SIGIO, ...) … optimizing C code analyzing the generated asm in conjunction with a profiler …
writing a production-grade full-blown webserver in PHP based on non-blocking I/O after creating a bunch of base libraries for it including an event-loop... ……… Yeah, where do we now still search the challenge? Finding the next interesting challenge is often a hard task…
 
2:33 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ That's why I don't do it anymore. But according to some other people I talked to, it is prety common now among students.
 
@Olaf The only challenges left are doing really exotic things … like writing that regex :-D
@Olaf For public universities like in Germany you usually only pay some small administrative fees… But I also see it here; it's independent of paying…
 
@bwoebi I actually like the bare-metal embedded world: you can completely use your own stuff. Problem is some customers force you to use stupid documentation tools and external libraries for stuff you quicker write your own code before you work into the details of that lib and hammer it into your own framework.
Or force you use some ridiculous complicated framework which results in massive timing problems. I should not complain, that way prolonged project time is guaranteed, but I actually hate to do unnecessary additional work
 
@Olaf Meet me
 
@Olaf Ehm. Yeah. I agree.
 
@bwoebi any thoughts on the dupe callout here
 
2:39 AM
@bwoebi: I wrote it was a private Uni. For the public universities, things are not always better. There are some "lighthouse" profs/universities, but quality has decayed quite a lot. Mostly because of those private unis.
 
@Drew not sure how that's a dupe … especially the "other brackets should remain"
@Olaf the quality of public, private unis or the students?
 
@bwoebi Well, the students for one, but also the quality of the courses.
 
@bwoebi I assume the 2nd preg_replace retaining the </A>
 
@Drew uh? And anyway, the other question had a completely different issue.
 
Problem is the students have less common sense (yes, that is a stastistics thing, does nto apply to a specific student), so they lower requirements. IMO a very wrong approach. Especially for a country like germany which relies on its high education.
 
2:46 AM
@Olaf … students having less common sense… seriously? … uh
but perhaps it's also related to the over-population of unis today
@Olaf (I can't tell, I'm myself only a student, I have no idea how students were years ago.)
 
@bwoebi Not sure I got the correct term. I mean they lack the will to think for themselves, can't really argue properly (with logical&rationale arguments, not just stating their positions). Well, see a lot of the C postings here (not sure about other languages, though) and you get an impression about what I mean..
 
@Olaf But after 1.5 years, most students who are really bad already are filtered out … Comparing the material of the 2nd and 4th semester is quite a difference in target audience…
 
@bwoebi: Well, I got the feedback from friends and coleagues about internship students. THe same impressions. Not that there are no good ones.
 
@Olaf Ah, measuring on SO questions… yeah, it's everywhere the same. But… uh, I think it's just more apparent today as SO is so well-known. Back in the day students asked in obscure forums … not centralized as in SO…
 
But the overal tendency seems to decay. OTOH we all get older and it is just the normal "tghat youth" thingy
 
2:54 AM
@Olaf yes, this, so much.
To respect youth they usually first need to prove themselves, while it's easier for us to respect elder people by default… @Olaf
@Olaf And that relation is symmetric … I regularly get rated much older than I am, partially just because of my experience. Old people are assumed to be experienced and experienced people to be old…
 
@πάνταῥεῖ I think that's borderline spam. Yes, it's a product, but it's directly related to the question
 
@Olaf same with young people, they're more often than not assumed inexperienced and our perception also skewed towards these younger then us (as they get more and more inexperienced relative to us, the older and more experienced we get)
 
@bwoebi: No, I don't respect anyone for a physical attribute. I started that in school when I noticed my teachers don't know that much about certain fields as I did and follow this track since then. No title, nothing. But then I well pay attention to them and take them serious - unless I see prove they don't deserve it.
Funny, I'm typically judged much younger than I am.
 
@Olaf Oh, you don't. Not consciously.
@Olaf Well, once you reach a certain age, you indeed probably get judged younger as IT people => can't be that old. … I often see that chain of thought.
So uh… how old are you really? I'm going to put you in your late thirties now…
 
@bwoebi I mean when they see me. Even without knowing my job, etc. Anyway, no, I'm quite aware of the deep impregnation we all get to respect older or bpeople with some titel. But I've met enough of them to know they are indeed worth noting by themselves. It is the person - title or none - which can earn respect. My policy is to give them some chances to earn my respect.
 
3:05 AM
@Olaf Oh, from the physical look. Yeah okay…
 
Some say too many chances. But there is a point I get very straight to the point.
 
@Olaf I fundamentally agree in that. I've just lost respect of titles. It means "you passed your exams". It doesn't mean: you have any clue…
 
@bwoebi Exactly. I've jsut met one guy too many who thinks his Dr. Whatever means per se he is right.
 
There are sadly too many people who don't have the luck to be as smart as we are :-( [smart is multilayered here … i.e. self-reflexivity, reflexivity on the world, on the people, on everything]
Critic thinking is crucial…
 
3:26 AM
@bwoebi I would not call me smart. But with a sharp mind (that's not from me!). Too sharp quite often.
 
@Olaf Having a sharp mind is part of being smart.
 
I notice too easily bullpoop (is that swearing?)
Yes, but if I really was smart, I could handle this much better.
 
@Olaf As said, smart is multilayered. Fewest people are smart in all ways.
Going by your definition of smart, I probably wouldn't be smart either ;o)
@Olaf And as always… being smart also means knowing when you are stupid. Stupid people often don't notice their stupidity…
5:33.
Ab ins Bettchen…
(Good night)
 
Yes, that's the primary problem I have communicating with them.
Problem is they are the majority and you can't avoid them.
 
@Olaf [I am not sure if they actually are, or if we just perceive it that way … but there are definitely plenty who are unavoidable.]
 
3:42 AM
@bwoebi I'm much less optimistic. Most ppl behave as if thinking hurts (or causes wrinkles).
 
@Olaf Perhaps I just manage to avoid a lot of them, so that I have that thought … don't know — but now I'm really off to bed.
 
@bwoebi good idea.
g' nite!
 
user4639281
3:55 AM
o/
 
Bye!
what exactly does canonical mean in the context of answers?
 
It means it is so kickin' awesome everyone wants to use it as a dupe target
 
Ahh, ok
so comparing strings in Java is canonical?
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
Think sacred book
 
4:06 AM
Thanks, +Star for FHC
 
user4639281
lol
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Can I ask and self answer on a topic to make a canonical if there already are questions and answer but not canonical?
 
sure go for it
 
Ok!
 
user4639281
Well, that really depends on the question and answer that already exist
 
user4639281
4:11 AM
If there is a decent enough question, but the answer just isn't that great, answer the existing question
 
like one of my few questions here: "What is SQLFiddle and Why Should I Care?" ... People loved it so much they closed it
 
user4639281
@Drew "Why should I care?" is pretty opinion based
 
I answered a question, and I've seen many dupes but since that answer is quite localized I feel like it's not canonical
 
it was click bait
 
I'm not sure if there's a canonical for this but it's way too localized imo
 
user4639281
4:13 AM
If there are no general questions to provide a decent answer to, only localized ones, then sure. Just make sure it isn't too far reaching.
 
See the example ^
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. Well....... the only more generic you can get is a question asking what a recursive function is, which would be too broad.
 
user4639281
brb, snacks
 
@TinyGiant Ehh, but I feel like that answer is too local to the OP's situation. Also, what do you mean by 'far-reaching'? Being language agnostic or?
 
self-answer question strategies can have the tendency to be Too Broad
 
4:17 AM
Ahh. But something being language agnostic and apply to many languages, would that be TB?
 
Like what, how to increment an int ?
 
user4639281
4:34 AM
mmm snacks
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. No, but explaining what a recursive function is might be too broad of a topic for stack overflow
 
user4639281
 
I'm not going to explain what a recursive function is.
@TinyGiant Even the OS just doesn't belong
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. Well... In as few words as possibe, what is the question that you will be answering?
 
I decided not to... Should I just improve my current answer?
 
user4639281
4:42 AM
There's nothing stopping you from de-localizing the question and answer
 
user4639281
But... it seems kind of like a */facedesk* debugging question.
 
that's the problem
I'm looking to delocalize it but will that be well received?
 
some people put together a thesis on a self-answer. If written well you can score a lot even if the Q is Too Broad and closed.
 
user4639281
well, I'm still unclear of what you want the end result to be
 
Ehh, let me rethink. In the meantime, I'm going to go to bed. Bye o/
 
 
good night!
 
user4639281
night
 
user4639281
@Drew Wow
 
user4639281
@AndrewL. just don't do that^^^
 

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