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Rob
12:10 AM
@TinyGiant I still do that now :(
Since I'm usually in the room at work, and don't want non-work related scripts/extensions in the browser
 
12:44 AM
@PraveenKumar Not unclear, code block needed to be edited to have a space before
 
@SamuelLiew Oh
 
plop!
 
1:16 AM
Is it sd n?
Seems rude/abusive no?
 
@TheLostMind =p
And good morning everyone o/
@AndrewLi Huh, I flagged as NAA. You can also say that it's offensive, but cast a NAA flag is always correct.
@Kyll Oh! I need something to clear your cameras, right now!
@Kyll Anyway, glad to hear that and congratulations to you and @Bhargav, =D
Huh
@Closey
 
user6820627
1:33 AM
Have you seen pastebin.com/GTmPr9wx before?
 
...reviewing cv queues, finally I changed my mind, voted to close as too broad (for me) and changed my tag to . cc @Kyll
I still need some JavaScript training I think =p
 
@KevinGuan A while ago it was established that copy-pasting like that was abusive
 
@AndrewLi Actually...I don't know pick which flag is correct for that kind of posts. People have different views about that IIRC.
 
I would say it's definitely abusive
 
user6820627
1:49 AM
@Rob it's fun.
 
user6820627
> We are a professional site. Imagine you're at a conference. You walk into a group of professionals discussing something and yell "ASGFASFABFSSFS" at the top of your lungs.
 
Repeating "I don't know" because saying it once results in too short of a post is still a step above asgfasfabfssfs
 
Ahhh...checked Shog's answer again. Correct, just flag it and move on.
 
user6820627
@JanDvorak your account is going to be banned because asgfasfabfssfs :D serious: i have repeatedly saying "I don't know" in my class and everyone there said: "YOU DON'T KNOW? STOP (I){T}! Do you want to eat trees?"
 
user6820627
both asgfasfabfssfs and I don't know are bad. no step above.
 
user6820627
2:14 AM
@JanDvorak do you know about machine learning? is that the technique @Queen, @Hatman, @NATOBot and @SmokeDetector are using?
 
Rob
Pretty sure smoke detector uses regex's
Queen (I think? looks for a comment saying 'possible duplicate of' or simply checking the vote scores)
 
user6820627
what about Hatman and NATOBot?
 
Rob
I don't know anything about those two (never heard of them either)
 
user6820627
so let's call Sam and BhargavRao
 
user6820627
2:33 AM
@HovercraftFullOfEels maybe ok for code review if fix all bug.
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent: perhaps, but it's not OK for SO as he presents a shopping list of enhancements that he wants help creating.
 
user6820627
yes of course! tb let's close it.
 
3:25 AM
@SmokeDetector Not spam, just NAA.
 
@SamuelLiew Unregistered user, first post. Spam IMO.
 
@Tushar I checked the site, user really wants to remove timer
 
Ok. Downvote and DelVoted
 
user4639281
3:52 AM
@FOX9000 Very poor edit, rejected and edited
 
user6820627
@TinyGiant yes you did it!
 
user6820627
finally stack snippets work.
 
user4639281
Well, Stack Snippets mostly always work, so long as you are using them as intended for what they were intended for.
 
user4639281
@AndrewLi I voted POB on that one
 
@TinyGiant ehh, it's blend of a few. Resource request, asking for a developer, and full of opinions.
 
user4639281
4:03 AM
@Rob yeah, but you don't add the username, linkify the title, or add the time to your requests. There have been instances of users posting requests formatted exactly as the cv request generator would, not knowing that other users were using a script to format it like that.
 
^ found from edit suggestion
 
@Rob Can you cv stackoverflow.com/questions/40796531/… please? I tried and it didn't close it like I thought it would, and I can't delete it. shrug
 
Rob
As a duplicate?
 
Yes please
 
Rob
Done
 
4:08 AM
Thanks, now to find my 3 questions to go look at :)
 
Rob
@TinyGiant Oh, hadn't noticed username + timestamp. Is that a new addition to the script?
@jdphenix No worries
 
user4639281
@Rob No, that has been there since the beginning
 
user4639281
@AndrewLi I think there is a delay
 
user4639281
 
user4639281
Lots of close vote requests in the queue with 0 close votes...
 
Rob
4:26 AM
I approved that. I'd say it's not a superfluous edit. Indentation makes codes vastly more readable. And in this case, the original code overflowed with a scroll bar, making things worse.
This vs This I'd say is a decent improvement.
 
user4639281
Interestingly enough, if you're viewing an edit, and it is approved while you're viewing it, choosing reject and edit will load the new revision into the editor
 
@Rob to each his own ;-)
Should I flag a user who keeps suggesting bad edits?
Well, first of all, is this a bad edit: Tagging JavaScript on strictly Three.js questions?
 
Rob
Depends, I suppose. If the question is 'how do i xyz in three.js' - then yeah
If the question is using three.js but has problems with the code, tagging javascript seems okay
 
It's strictly Three.js
WTH is that smokey post...
 
Rob
Then I'd leave a comment to them if you feel strongly about it. I wouldn't bother flagging unless they keep doing it after a comment
 
4:33 AM
Yeah.
 
Rob
Since it seems like good-faith edits
 
It won't ping them unless they actually get an edit approved though
Example: this edit is on a strictly Three.js question, but adds JavaScript tag
I've already rejected 3 of their edits, all superfluous
Not sure about last CV-Request
 
user4639281
4:54 AM
@AndrewLi Historically I have created a new room and invited said user to that room, then commenced educating them about why their edits were not appreciated, and what they could do to change that. I have never had that method fail.
 
user4639281
@AndrewLi Interestingly, all of those posts were last edited by gman (26.6k)
 
5:19 AM
@TinyGiant Yeah, I noticed that too
 
user4639281
Sometimes downvotes on meta just don't make any sense at all
 
Example?
 
Yay spam
> w3schools are best
Oh lordy
 
6:25 AM
Would this be a typo? Forgot return statement
Guess so then
@Glorfindel huh +7/-4 in 48 minutes on a bad question? Quite possible
 
It was at +6 when I first saw it (via Meta)
 
Hmm
 
user4639281
@Glorfindel What the... huh?...
 
I really can't agree with TLM here :(
Seems flag-worthy IMO
 
user4639281
6:42 AM
I don't know, they make a good point
 
@AndrewLi - Well, you have the right to disagree.. What if a thousand people flagged 5 different posts for "probable voting fraud" every day, we have 5000 custom flags. I assure you there are a lot of crappy posts that get get upvoted on SO
 
user4639281
^^ T Hat
 
@TheLostMind but at that magnitude? +5 in 5 minutes?
 
user4639281
Something like that is bound to be picked up by the automated system
 
I fully see your point and I agree with it, but this particular situation seems a bit different
 
6:44 AM
Do you have specific stats on that?
 
Are you sure?
 
user4639281
I would actually like to know if it will
 
Yeah
 
user4639281
By my previous statement I was positing that if the automated system didn't pick that up as voting fraud, it either isn't voting fraud, or the user is really smart (in which case they wouldn't need to do any of this in the first place), or the automated system isn't very good.
 
Hiya
 
6:46 AM
That's my problem - what if it isn't picked up the system and we just assume it will be? Then they get away, and flags would not have been raised.
Hey BR o/
 
user4639281
This would be an interesting test case
 
@AndrewLi what's the problem?
 
user4639281
Hey BR o/
 
I suspect the latter is quite likely
 
6:47 AM
@BhargavRao Discussing this
Agreed. Sometimes the system ain't that accurate, but no system is perfect.
If only we had 100% correct AI :(
 
Meh, I'll add a answer there too.
 
Sure
 
user4639281
@JanDvorak Like I said, I'd like to see the natural outcome of it without the meta effect. I want to think that the system is really good, but I would like to see some kind of proof. Even a data dump of stuff that was caught by it, not user specifics or post specifics, just numbers.
 
Just so y'all know, Between me and @tuna, we've flagged more than 20 users for voting fraud. (Not from mod data, We discuss this in a room). All of them were marked as helpful.
And the pattern was perfect.
 
user4639281
@BhargavRao Good to know
 
6:51 AM
@BhargavRao When a user commits voting fraud, what usually happens after they are caught?
 
@AlexanderO'Mara suspension depending on person reviewing the situation
Or sometimes, just reversal and nothing else
 
@AlexanderO'Mara Non-mod knowledge: The flag is marked helpful, the lower rep accounts are deleted and the user is suspended.
I really can't tell the other as it's against the mod agreement and I don't wanna screw up in the first week :P
 
@BhargavRao What if not a voting ring, just usual revenge down votes? Say, 3 times in a row.
 
By reversal it usually means -rep gained for parent user and removal of voter accounts
 
@BhargavRao - I presume your flags were not based on the number of votes alone?
 
6:54 AM
@AlexanderO'Mara That afaik, Goes to the CMs. But targetted downvoting (a large percentage of downvotes) are handled by mods
@TheLostMind Nope, I've almost begun to agree with your answer. It doesn't look like I need to add another.
 
user4639281
@TheLostMind I think the first sentence of your answer could use some emphasis of that point.
 
@TinyGiant Exactly, the answer's well structured to meet the down voting crowd
 
user4639281
The general tone of your answer is "don't flag such things", which could be taken as "don't ever flag voting fraud". I can see how the rest of your answer works to negate that idea, but it is not obvious.
 
@TheLostMind one post, yes. But his last three questions are suspect, if you ask me. I posted some evidence on Meta and let you ♦'s handle it from there.
 
As an aside, I've seen some really bizarre voting in a few tags (especially android). So a +5 or +10 in a few secs on a bad question is not really surprising. (Again, I've spent a very minimal amount of time browsing that tag, so I may be mistaken.). — Bhargav Rao ♦ Jul 20 at 12:28
Swift and IOS is the other
 
user4639281
7:00 AM
@BhargavRao android especially
 
user4639281
Want some points? Post an android question
 
Write a detailed flag and those mods mark them helpful i.stack.imgur.com/pZoFG.png
 
user4639281
@TheLostMind mods can't see who voted on what right?
 
You can't see
 
@BhargavRao - No worries :)
 
user4639281
7:10 AM
IIRC only devs can see votes
 
@Glorfindel - 3 poor posts that get up-voted pretty quick?, that is a pattern. :). If you see a pattern, you can flag it. We will take a look, One post, I would say Meh
 
Mods can see some tool that suggests fraud between users though, just not individual votes.
 
@TinyGiant Shog can see everythin :P
 
user4639281
Isn't shog a dev though?
 
Do you have stats on how often it actually happens?
 
7:13 AM
@TinyGiant - BR already answered that. We cant
 
@TinyGiant Community Manager I think.
 
@TinyGiant - Shog is an illusion
He exists everywhere
He does everything
 
He's Shog
 
user4639281
@AlexanderO'Mara Well yeah, but doesn't he work for Stack Overflow, and is he not a developer?
 
@TheLostMind agreed. That's why I dug a little deeper in this case.
 
7:16 AM
The funny thing is that even meta veterans like @Glorfindel, also get bogged down in few places :D
BTW, There's a lot of NAAs flowing in the NATO w/o being flagged, Anyone free?
 
user4639281
I can check it out
 
Awesome, thanks.
 
@Glorfindel - Thanks for digging :)
 
Weird that smokey couldn't catch that
 
caching
 
user4639281
7:46 AM
Just went to visit rejex101.com, brain made me type rejects101.com
 
Anyone got a link to that "Don't comment even though you've got <50 rep?" on MSE? Thx
 
Morning \o
 
8:15 AM
Plop!
 
Plop
 
@BhargavRao did you mean "cbg"? :p
 
Well, Plop the plopper, right?
 
8:31 AM
Morning :)
 
Hiya @Seth
 
@BhargavRao How's the diamond life treating you? :o
 
Life's going on ;)
It's not so tough, It's not so easy.
 
I see :D
 
Hiya
@BhargavRao but you're the expert Sherlock :) I raise suspicions
 
8:37 AM
@Tunaki You're both cheating ô,ô
@Tunaki o/
 
user5855037
 
@Tunaki Elementary, Dear Watson
 
@Sasa.D ? ...
 
some moderator here? I need to do a question.
 
@danihp there's normally one/two lurking - what's up?
 
8:43 AM
I have >22K reputation. How can I do to close a question with out all people votes? Just me. ( I'm talking about quesions like this one: stackoverflow.com/questions/40800602/… )
 
Gold badge =)
 
You run for moderator
 
@BhargavRao Why'd you report that o.o
 
It was a abusive post.
 
feeding smokey
 
8:45 AM
@danihp You can't... Only moderators can unilaterally close questions. If you have a gold badge in a tag, you can close as duplicate with just your vote, but not for other reasons.
 
Hi Tunaki. Thanks about your fast reply.
 
@BhargavRao Ahh. >.< I see
 
And yeah, Ya'll were very slow to raise anything. The post was delved at -2 which shows that it was a mod nuke
Time for breakfast and lunch together, at 2PM; BBIAB.
 
Huh!? Did you mean AM or PM? confused puppy
 
8:48 AM
0
Q: what does "waffles and unicorns" mean?

NirajI can not call myself new to SO[or to World!], but yet, I don't understand meaning of waffles and unicorns terminology. I have read them on meta plenty times, but I didn't figure out what it meant?

Anyone seen the OP in this room? :P
@JonClements - He means IST. 2 PM
 
one box :o
 
@Tunaki - One per day eh ? :P
 
@TheLostMind Commented on that.
 
@TinyGiant just curious, where do you see that?
 
Nice @Seth
 
@JonClements Bah, I confuse myself. :D
@TheLostMind No-one box plz. As it is more than 3 mins, It'll be moved to the Sanitarium.
 
user4639281
:P
 
@Glorfindel Are you a regular here now? :)
 
@BhargavRao - That is the first one box I posted in SOCVR this year :P
 
no exceptions. :D
 
user4639281
8:53 AM
@BhargavRao technically there is a per user limit of one one-box per day, but don't tell anyone
 
Bah, Cya. My stomach's growling.
 
user4639281
Waffles taste good, unicorns taste better runs awayTiny Giant 2 mins ago
 
Morning all it's black friday so time to get your game faces on ←~(Ψ▼ー▼)∈
 
So, isn't there any controversy about this Friday being called "Black"?
 
lol must be
 
8:59 AM
this is controversy: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zwarte_Piet still going on in Netherlands
 
user5855037
@Seth At this link i posted a question.. that question is mark as duplicate.. so please go that question and read that question one more time.. and if you know the answer.. then provide the solution for this.....
 
@Cerbrus what's the difference if saturdays are also called black?
 
They are?
 
@TinyGiant thx.
@JonClements only when I'm bored.
 
user4639281
np
 
9:01 AM
@EdChum The only controversy is the attention we give those people that are so desperate for attention.
 
@Sasa.D If you're saying your question isn't a duplicate, you can edit it to show the differences.
 
user4639281
> SOCVR: Curing boredom since... well... a while
 
@Cerbrus Yes, of course
 
9:33 AM
also morning o/
 
^ Whattey!
 
user5855037
@Tunaki Yaa..! i edited it.. please go through it
 
My first comment on Software Engineering \o/
 
I don't know MSE to great depths, but it might pass as NAA
 
@Rizier123 Meta-meta-answer :)
 
10:05 AM
@PatsyIssa Please don't forget to provide a reason in your request, such as "Too broad"
 
woops sorry missed it
 
np
 
@LearnHowToBeTransparent Heh, seems fine to me. Might be no repro, would need some more input from OP.
 
10:59 AM
@Praveen cvplz Floodar :p
hides behind @Kyll
 
@kayess Plopper! :p
throws @kayess on @Kyll
 
11:16 AM
bites them both
 
Now that does not comply with the Be Nice policy;x
 
Yes, that -----------------------------^
 
@BhargavRao x_x
 
o.o
 
ô.ô
 
11:22 AM
ò.ó
 
Å‘.Å‘
 
ò.Ó
 
Ô.ö
 
Now that was an impressive train with 6 cabinets
 
0.0
o.0
 
11:25 AM
@PraveenKumar isn't there a dupe?
 
@kayess if it was not for the floodar maybe even I would have had time to attach a wagon ; )
 
@PetterFriberg :>
 
11:34 AM
:Y
 
:Train
 
You all're lucky coz the flowerz not here :D
 
:TrainWrecked
@AndrewLi Sheeeeeesh.
 
Launches I can't stop raving and switches over to Visual Studio 2015 to write some query decorators
 
11:43 AM
 
:|
 
@PetterFriberg To me, yep
 
12:09 PM
(:
 
12:24 PM
[:
 
@Drew another one for your hammer ^^
 
12:41 PM
RER?
 
based
@BhargavRao Roaring Exceptionally Righteous
 
Ah, Gotcha.
 
1:21 PM
@Olaf what's RER and why do you want to close?
 
1:44 PM
I should install that user script x.x
 
Yes =)
 
using tampermonkey for it?
 
Greasemonkey :o
 
> TamperMonkey
 
4 mins ago, by Seth
Greasemonkey :o
ò.ó
 
1:52 PM
1 min ago, by Praveen Kumar
> TamperMonkey
 
ARGH
 
@here... Kill both above. :D
 
lol
 
^^ Has a previously closed similar question.
 
those questions O.O
 
1:59 PM
Yep....
Is this worth keeping (with an edit), or should it be closed?
 
@user2314737 Request for External Resources.
 
@PatsyIssa Yep, this is what we deal with every day....
 
@Seth Take the shouting out, but doesn't seem OT at first look
 
user6820627
@Olaf what? that abbv exist?
 
I tend to stick to the ember tag
 
2:08 PM
@LearnHowToBeTransparent See the close-reasons. It should be obvious which I mean :-)
 
slaps @PraveenKumar with @Kyll
 
throws @kayess on a mod
 
throws @Kyll on @kayess
 
I love this script :D
 
darn @Praveen all these requests... to many for us... limit to the worst ones
 
2:11 PM
@PatsyIssa scripts love you as well
 
@PetterFriberg Okay...
Everything is worst, non-dupe I am posting...
Others are I am dealing with them.
 
I know but it's just to many... you need to find the worst worst... and hope the queue gets the rest.
 
3 hours ago, by kayess
@Praveen cvplz Floodar :p
UNORITE?
:p
 
IDKRITE
 
SRY4U
 
2:16 PM
STRIDERITE?
 
I CLOSED A FEW
WHAT'S HAPPENING? EVERYTHING IS CAPS?
 
You guys are soooooooo weird
ò.ó
Someone didn't take his coffee (or took too much of it)
I thought you guys would know the importance of the dose by now =/
 
SlackOverflow
 
ò.ó
 
2:20 PM
@PraveenKumar js-stuff :D
 
We don't slack over here
 
Yes, we sleep!
 
I read that book :)
 
^
hey Tim nice to see you here
 
2:45 PM
@TimCastelijns I read both, by far the best books in subject
 
No Repro...
20 close votes remaining for me...
Planning to use everything on hammering... So I am all good for dupe hammers.
Is this output cached? reports.socvr.org/111347/1859
I could see all those I closed here...
CV: 4... LoL.
 
... Always interesting to see the culture that other chat-rooms have...
Makes me appreciate this room even more.
 
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