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00:00
I think you can ask rene or some other people, can't remember who though.
Yeah, whoever has commit access to smokey's repo
@rene can you add me to smokey's user list?
I can prepare a PR
awesome, thanks
@rene Both checks failed, is CI broken?
00:09
No, me is broken
you have trailing whitespace on the line you added
yeah, but Normal Human merged already, I hope they fixed it or now we are all exposed to SPAM!!
Oh.
@rene Nah, it was just Flake failing
@Undo I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
00:13
That thing is fast
@Closey status
SOCVR ChatBot version 1.0.0.0, running for 9 hours, 13 minutes and 46 seconds.
user4639281
@Rizier123 two reopen votes already.
!!/rev
00:18
!!/amiprivileged
@approxiblue Yes, you are a privileged user.
thanks rene
user4639281
@Rizier123 I found the review item and voted to leave closed. It got 4 leave closed votes and 2 reopen votes from the queue.
Morning :D
user4639281
Morning
00:25
Bonsoir
@rene Looks like @Tunaki's answer is good.
Hmm...our December meeting is tomorrow.
00:59
stackoverflow.com/questions/33977880/… Is this Questions asking us to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource ?
An upvote on it
@Closey commands
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Ha! New version Closey :D
01:16
Off to bed, night!
02:00
@Drew I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@josilber you ever found it tempting to be tracked by the bot and then do a more than 40 review spree and see if we can't break it? :p
@JonClements Ooh, I hadn't thought of that before, but that is tempting indeed :)
I think the bot actually has some history on me
@Clo stats
7,916 need review
327 reviews today
2,953,238 reviews all-time
@Closey audit stats
@josilber I don't have any of your audits on record, so I can't produce any stats for you.
02:04
Hmm, perhaps it had a data refresh since I used it?
@josilber Oh, now it's Closey 2.0 beta :D
@Closey starting
@KevinGuan You don't need to run this command anymore! When you start reviewing I should notice it and record the start of the record.
See, new version :P
@KevinGuan Ooh cool. I'm behind the times!
@josilber And they use different databases :)
02:19
@josilber slacker :p
@JonClements :)
Drew passed a audit!
@Drew You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 31 minutes, averaging to a review every 45.8 seconds.
user4639281
02:44
Closey hates me, he missed my audit and didn't notice when I finished my session.
@TinyGiant So you can hate @Sam now :P
user4639281
@KevinGuan No, it's actually impossible to hate @Sam.
user4639281
That's what makes it so hard for Sam to test, Closey just always works for him.
@TinyGiant I'm sure Closey loves you... he's just not programmed to express love :p
user4639281
Well, he isn't programmed to express hate either, he shows it by ignoring me. :P
02:49
err... hate and indifference are very different things :)
user4639281
03:00
Yeah, that is true.
@TinyGiant Yeah I know, just kidding :)
user4639281
:P
03:32
Ah, now I have time. Let me test that Closey love me or hate me :P
@KevinGuan I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@Closey THANKS! Closey love me xD
Kevin passed a audit!
user4639281
Everyone but me apparently.
03:40
@TinyGiant Hmm...maybe because Closey really hate you :P
Hmm...rollback OP's last edit? stackoverflow.com/questions/33977164/…
user4639281
@KevinGuan Rolled back. Definitely noise.
@TinyGiant Thanks :D
Kevin passed an audit!
04:05
@KevinGuan You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 31 minutes, averaging to a review every 46.2 seconds.
@Closey :)
 
2 hours later…
05:42
Wow, check this Great Code Wall :P
 
3 hours later…
08:37
@tripleee Yeah I saw that question, but didn't notice that part...So it's get some rep before close it? :P
Sam
Sam
09:19
Morning
@rene Ok, I'll look into it later today.
@TinyGiant Yeah, that's the bug Mogs found.
@clo add user 4639281
@Sam That user is already in the system!
Sam
Sam
... Okay
@clo add user 3093387
@Sam Ok, I added josilber (3093387) to the tracked users list.
Sam
Sam
@josilber I've added you to the test version.
Keyword there: test
It may or may not (fully) work atm. Which is why we're running it (just to see what needs fixing).
@TinyGiant ... yeah, not quite sure why that's happening.
And it doesn't help that there aren't any errors in the log.
09:48
That is the problem with logs, in normal operation they fill up with non-sense you're never going to look at again. When stuff really breaks, so does the logging...
stackoverflow.com/q/33979237/3933332 And there are even users who answer such questions..
Sam
Sam
@rene Yep.
@Rizier123 I assume they are not easily offended ...
@Sam So the answer is that Closey hate Tiny :P
Sam
Sam
10:03
@KevinGuan Well, I wouldn't say hate, but maybe just emotionally challenged.
@Sam However Closey don't love Tiny.
Check if there's something like HateTiny = True in Closey's source code :P
Sam
Sam
:p
It probably just failed to initialise the watcher object for Tiny for some reason.
@Sam Yeah as I said, the reason is Closey doesn't love Tiny :P
Sam
Sam
10:25
Meh :p
11:03
Plop!
@easwee I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
11:40
Hey
Ola
@easwee You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 39 minutes, averaging to a review every 58.6 seconds.
^ offensive
11:58
I used a custom flag. Not offensive enough for me...
I did cv the question btw
Sam
Sam
12:25
@easwee Congrats, Closey likes you.
12:50
2 answers written, one took more than an hour, one less then 2 minutes. Guess where you pick up the rep...
Sam
Sam
Ik, it's sad.
@rene That's because you don't type fast enough
:p
@Tunaki yeah, I didn't take that into account ... I'm a slacker ...
@Tunaki No
The link is his entire project directory.
12:56
god
@MadaraUchiha I see you closed it, thanks :)
Sam
Sam
13:09
The room meeting of mystery starts tomorrow...
13:20
This answer looks weird. It is upvoted but I don't think it even begins to answer the question. The same answer was posted here and it is also upvoted!
Wow, here also!
OK 4 time now, definitely flagging for mod attention
@Tunaki No need
Suspended and deleted his sock
@MadaraUchiha Oops too late :)
13:36
I can't believe that I'm still alive...
anyone seeing a "that's a miss" when using the not operator?
Was moving, moving, and moving...now I'm very, very, very tired...
@Braiam Sorry, I don't understand that
@Tunaki Closey doesn't say that any more :P
The desk and the refrigerator are very heavy
Oh, good night Plop! hey everyone :)
Sam
Sam
Hey
@rene \o/ I win!
yes, you do! Congrats!
@Mogsdad I know that using the search query is possible, but the actual navigation shouldn't fail...
13:44
@Braiam For the past while, I've found that I need to use the top-right search box to enter any search that involves something more than tags, which takes me to a search page. The tagged query craps out with anything more than tags.
By the way, maybe I can't here when it's 3 AM tomorrow. I need sleep, really.
!!/sleep
Hmm...
!!/coffee
@KevinGuan brews coffee for @KevinGuan
@Braiam Probably reported here: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/308875/1677912
Sam
Sam
@KevinGuan It will be bookmarked for the people that can't make it on time.
13:46
@Sam Yeah, yeah. You said that before.
For the boolean search support alone, thank you from the bottom of my heart. — Makoto Oct 27 at 17:59
and no:
> We welcome general feedback here, such as feature requests or general impressions, but please use separate questions for bug reports so we can track them in our internal bug tool.
Nov 25 at 23:27, by Sam
The meeting will most likely be bookmarked.
@Mogsdad nope, that redirects me to /questions without parameters
Sam
Sam
@KevinGuan It was just a reminder :p
13:50
:P
That's weird - and true. Try just typing "not " in the tags search.
edited
@Mogsdad Cool, SO dark theme? :)
@Tiny I'll try let Closey love you! XD
13:59
Afternoon
Sam
Sam
Hiya
Night
Wow, dark theme is beautiful :D
@kayess One frustrated student, but that question could probably be edited into shape. The essence is "Why am I getting this TypeError?".
What to do when a user copy-pastes the same answer all over the place?
14:12
@Tunaki all over the place ?
@Tunaki Flag one of them with custom flag, include links to the others.
I usually leave them if there are 2 or 3, and they are actually answers for the separate questions. If the questions are duplicates, handle that instead.
guess its gone already :p
@Mogsdad this guy posted 6, don't know enough of WordPress to tell if they are duplicate
@Tunaki That answer's OP?
@KevinGuan don't know
14:33
@cimmanon this should be moved to meta no?
also, it's border-line offensive
@Tunaki i dunno. most of that wasnt even part of the original question
I'm tempted to edit out all the "edit" part because it doesn't add anything
he is pretty butthurt over how poorly received his questions have been
@cimmanon I cracked and edited
@rene seems like you'll be getting a lof of inbox messages with the hot conversation those guys are having on your meta post :)
Yeah, closing is my thing so I couldn't let it pass...
14:47
I'm going to answer this, but then am I allowed to edit out the unneeded crap from the bottom of the question? stackoverflow.com/questions/33974263/…
@kayess you should always edit out irrelevant chatter if you see it
@cimmanon alright thanks
Sam
Sam
@kayess Otherwise you may mysteriously disappear.
@Sam am I getting eaten by some monter?
Sam
Sam
@kayess Nope, but I hear there's a couple of chatbots lurking in the dark...
15:07
Okay, sleep time. Good night :)
Sam
Sam
Sleep well
@cybermonkey oh, come on!
15:22
An error happened in User Watcher Manager
0: TimeSpan overflowed because the duration is too long.
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at System.TimeSpan.Interval (Double value, Int32 scale) [0x00067] in /build/mono/src/mono-4.0.4/external/referencesource/mscorlib/system/timespan.cs:241
at System.TimeSpan.FromMinutes (Double value) [0x00000] in /build/mono/src/mono-4.0.4/external/referencesource/mscorlib/system/timespan.cs:250
at SOCVRDotNet.UserReviewStatus.<SyncReviewData>b__35_0 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
An error happened in User Watcher Manager
0: TimeSpan overflowed because the duration is too long.
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at System.TimeSpan.Interval (Double value, Int32 scale) [0x00067] in /build/mono/src/mono-4.0.4/external/referencesource/mscorlib/system/timespan.cs:241
at System.TimeSpan.FromMinutes (Double value) [0x00000] in /build/mono/src/mono-4.0.4/external/referencesource/mscorlib/system/timespan.cs:250
at SOCVRDotNet.UserReviewStatus.<SyncReviewData>b__35_0 () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0
lol
Sam
Sam
Finally
I guess someone took too long to review :)
Sam
Sam
I've been waiting for this the whole time
lol
15:23
Ask @JonSkeet if you can use NodaTime
Sam
Sam
lol
@DavidG Probably me :P
I took a break overnight.
Sam
Sam
@Undo When roughly?
(In UTC please.)
I thought TimeSpan max duration was like 10k days, that's a hell of a break!
So you started reviewing in 1986!
Sam
Sam
So undo owns a time machine.
15:33
@Sam Since a few minutes after 00:00 to a few minutes before now.
Sam
Sam
@Undo Ok, thanks.
That error message is in the right spot for when I started again today.
Sam
Sam
Yeah
I forgot to make the tracker stop watching after so many mins of inactivity.
So atm it just (attempts to) indefinitely increment your avg reviewing time.
Well the bug's living somewhere in here.
I'll fix it at some point today.
@Sam Looks like it happens if latestRevTime = firstRevTime
Sam
Sam
15:50
Hmm
Yes, if there's only 1 activeRev
Sam
Sam
oh derp
@Undo You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 916 minutes, averaging to a review every 1373.2 seconds.
Undo passed a audit!
@josilber I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
@Sam Well today I learned that a double value can contain infinity...
15:56
Haha awesome
And I thought I was so cool that I had 999/1000 in C# tag, ready to get the power of Mjolnir, but now I find I have a mention in weekend Closey, my life is complete!
Sam
Sam
:D
@josilber don't forget that you have unlimited close votes and reviews. Don't wait for the Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes because that will never happen ...
josilber passed a audit!
Maybe I shouldn't have told him?
Sam
Sam
@rene ... that's a point.
16:02
@rene Yup -- this is a debugging run for the new closey to see what happens at 41!
@rene fun bug approaching
@josilber Ha! ;)
Sam
Sam
I have no idea what'll happen
@tripleee I'd say borderline on-topic.
@Sam quickly reading the source code and try to find out
Sam
Sam
16:06
@Tunaki I would normally
Can't atm though, too busy
Aaand got derailed from reviewing
But we're all waiting to see what happens!!
Sam
Sam
the suspense
What IDEs do we all use here?
16:08
vi
Sam
Sam
VS 2015
@Sam which edition?
I don't use an IDE
kidding of course, VS2015 here
Sam
Sam
16:08
@cybermonkey Community
emacs
I use Enterprise (and it's a genuine key)
Eclipse
well, technically VS for everything other than Java, and Eclipse for Java
@Tunaki I have a love/hate relationship with Eclipse. It loves me and I hate it.
16:09
@DavidG Oh, I love it :)
@cybermonkey Notepad++
any nightmares with it?
@Closey I use NP++ for Lua, sometimes for HTML/CSS
Yeah, it always means I have to edit some PHP which gives me terrors
For anything Bash related, I'm on Notepad++ though
16:13
I stopped using N++ when the dev got on his political high horse a while back
@DavidG with the message that was auto-written?
don't remember the version
Yeah, I moved to Sublime after that and never looked back.
afk
Sam
Sam
cya
16:44
and back. I see nothing much has happened
@josilber It looks like you've finished reviewing , & . Is that right?
@Closey no?
@Tunaki I'm also back, after W10 did hang-up on me for the second time in 24 hours
Sam
Sam
@josilber Can't have a question mark in the response
@Closey no
Sam
Sam
16:46
... which means there's another bug.
josilber passed a audit!
@Sam I think it assumes I am reviewing the suggested tags, but really I'm reviewing any tags using the off-topic filter.
Sam
Sam
@josilber Yeah, that's correct.
Sound like we are training the dog... NO, Closey, NO!, down, stay, drop dead!
Sam
Sam
We don't actually know if a user is using the tag filter or not.
So.
@rene Good rene!
16:48
We really need an API on review
josilber passed a audit!
OK, so that was 40
@Tunaki is that really opinionated? the wording isnt great, but the problem is still interesting
17:04
@cimmanon it is but there are too many possible answers
@josilber You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 68 minutes, averaging to a review every 102.3 seconds.
josilber passed a audit!
are there? solving a problem like that in haskell would be about 3 different answers. anything else would be a variation on those
null $ filter (>5) [1..10] or foldl (\ x y -> x && y > 5) True [1..10] or to write a recursive function
as simple as , "just write return with a bunch of ||" or "mainting a map of state determining if something is a noun" or "use an enum" or...
it depends on the level of abstraction the OP wants
@Mogsdad I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
So much for stealth reviewing...
17:08
OK, and there was 41
the world didn't end, did it?
Sam
Sam
looks around
Everything seems fine.
lol
Well, Closey doesn't appear to have died...
17:11
@josilber rekt
@josilber 42 would be a more significant number, wouldn't it?
@Mogsdad Ooh, good thinking
@josilber If you're going to do something, may as well do it right!
@Mogsdad It looks like you've finished reviewing & . Is that right?
No, Closey, you're crazy. I passed a c# audit, and I'm still reviewing [twitter-bootstrap] [.net] [css3]. But thanks for asking! (@Sam)
@Closey no
17:14
I can't wait for this message from Closey: josilber, It looks like you cleared the queue. Is that right?
6
@josilber YOU CAN DO IT!
Sam
Sam
@Mogsdad The tag analysis is still experimental.
Just for reference:
Dec 21 '13 at 21:41, by rene
Bill the lizard did 63 close votes today...
@Sam But missed audit, too.
Sam
Sam
@Mogsdad Was it of a deleted post?
17:17
@rene :). Given my skip rate, seems unlikely though.
:D
@Sam No, closed but not-yet-deleted. stackoverflow.com/questions/33921737/…
Sam
Sam
@Mogsdad Then it's the same bug responsible for missing when you're out of CVs. Which I already knew about.
Ok, cool. Glad you're on top of things!
@Mogsdad It looks like you've finished reviewing . Is that right?
Sam
Sam
17:19
I'm just finishing up on a project of mine, then I'll start patching up these bugs.
@Closey no
@Mogsdad It looks like you've finished reviewing . Is that right?
@Closey NO
@Mogsdad You've completed 40 CV review items today, thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 14 minutes, averaging to a review every 21 seconds.
@Mogsdad btw, why is that question closed as POB? Is there an opinniated way oof saying "You can't do that"? :D
17:27
@Tunaki I actually voted Too Broad; I'd be surprised if that got 5 unanimous POB votes. That said, though, a question asking "Do we need two..." is seeking opinion, not authoritative experience. But I don't think there's much to learn from it - it is a horrible audit question because of the nature of the subject.
PS - one more delete vote on it, and it will truly be gone.
out of curiosity, is there a way to actually see the vote count on that one for reason
@Drew 0 / -8
@cybermonkey CV? 0
needs 5 !
17:31
too broad:
@Tunaki I mean break down of CV reason
usually up/down aren't by reason :P
@Drew oh, I don't think it's possible
right, @Mogsdad that ain't 5 unanimous POB
like one time @Tunaki said to me something like "why did you go with xyz" ... I didn't, my name got lumped in next to everyone as if I went that way for reason
@Drew did I?
I can spend 5 min and find it. Or it was something like "Drew I would have gone qrs insteady of xyz" so then I felt bad with my name getting lumped so I went back to the question and manually commented "i voted to close for too broad" or something .... especially if you did not vote that way
the name lumping thing is odd for the final close reason .. especially if you did not vote that way
user4639281
17:42
@cybermonkey One of the changes to the recent guidelines is that we are only supposed to post cv requests once.
@Drew I'm not fully up to speed with the discussion but I assume you refer to this, right?
user4639281
That said, yes it should most definitely be closed, and I understand why you would want to reference it again.
@rene exactly
@TinyGiant it is not too broad, it is an install issue which can go on SU
user4639281
@rene I voted General Computing.
17:46
@TinyGiant so did I
user4639281
@rene Oh I see what you're saying now. @cybermonkey it isn't too broad, should be closed as General Computing.
@TinyGiant technically I only cv-pls'ed it once :D
@rene so all installation issues should go to SU? because there are a lot of them pertaining to ruby gems and whatnot
oh cyber u silly guy
user4639281
@cybermonkey oneboxing the cv-pls is considered reposting.
user4639281
17:53
@cimmanon I imagine that there is a line in the sand somewhere.
@cimmanon No, certainly not. You'll never get an in this case do X advice from me. But some installation issues can fit on SU, it gets hazy when it is a setup/install/config issue for a tool used by programmers. I don't think SU is the correct place for that.
user4639281
@SmokeDetector ignore- edited
user4639281
Madara missed everything other than the title on that edit.
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