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6:47 AM
posted on December 03, 2020 by hostilefork

In its day, Travis CI was a real eye-opener about how useful spinning up a batch of build processes could be. It was fast, free for open source, and neat. But it was sold to a pretty smarmy company called Idera. And without being told, we were shifted onto a free "plan" with 1000 minutes of compute time. That's not 1000 minutes a month, that's 1000 minutes total. Not exactly a

 
7:15 AM
@Edoc video quality is okay but drops off very badly if I start recording
 
8:04 AM
@rgchris It looks like R3C was at the point where COLLECT with no KEEPs was considered NULL. I've patched it for you.
 
 
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1:37 PM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE Not a judgement on the solution, per se, but this would be an example of 'moving target'
 
2:13 PM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE Thanks. The commit (#4ffa6dc) breaks the build process—I reverted the try collect -> collect changes within the %make/ folder as the build version of Ren-C (r3-8994d23-debug) still requires it. COLLECT/KEEP in Parse is still broken, however.
 
 
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4:09 PM
@rgchris For the files in which you like the change, you can go with it, and for the files in which you don't you can build adapters. This is a very adapter-friendly change. parse: enclose :parse (func [f <local> prog] [f/progress: 'prog, do f, prog])
Any even slight mention of complaints will likely irk me, when I've offered plenty of solutions (having tests, and me even offering to sync files with those changes). I think the much more applicable complaint is mine: "this would be an example of how it would be just fine if you engaged the working process instead of thinking of me as a magic genie who is here to solve all your problems and give exactly what you want"
 
4:45 PM
@rgchris I seem to have not checked in all the files somehow. Added the missing ones.
However, I switched to Linux to try to build and am getting a complaint about OPT and VOID!. That appears to have existed prior to the collect change in the linux build.
If you aren't getting that complaint in the make process, I will punt on looking at it.
It would be pretty insane for you to be using R3C without the NULL change, so you don't have to OPT blanks or whatever to get NULL out of conditionals. On the one hand, implementing it isn't likely incredibly difficult. On the other hand, you haven't used R3C or reported anything until now...and I did it July 1st
 
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE That's why I was pushing you on the NULL question—I can't push R3C without deciding on it. There's still some aspect of it that troubles me that I can't put my finger on.
 
5:01 PM
>> parse "aaaa" [collect x [keep "a"]]
== "aaa"

>> parse "a" [collect x [keep "a"]]
== ""
That seems easy enough to look at why it's happening.
I did run the tests for the feature, so I don't know what's going on with that, and were it closer to July 1st, I might have a better chance of knowing.
oh, oops, it's in x (duh)
>> parse "aaa" [collect x [some [keep "a"]]]
== ""

>> x
== ["a" "a" "a"]
So that is working.
@rgchris "is still broken" is vague. What is broken?
 
I can post a ticket, but I'm not sure if that's the best way to handle that longer term?
 
Meh. Just what's the problem right now, worry about it later if and when relevant.
 
Building again with the update...
It is working!
 
5:19 PM
R3C might actually have a relevant use right now. The Ubuntu VM that is used by GitHub actions does not like the build executable. It just won't run (and actually it hangs and prints out infinite line feeds and is difficult to get the cancel button to cancel.)
I do not see the same behavior locally on an Ubuntu that claims to be the same version they are using.
If there has to be debugging done and a new batch of build executables made for Windows/Linux/Mac/OpenBSD/Haiku/whatever, they could be R3Cs. There are a nonzero number of advantages to doing that rather than using the current state (and a nonzero number of disadvantages, I don't know the exact ratio)
Right now the Web Build with its very nice output is using a one-off build I made of the current master. But that was just to see it working.
 
 
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11:58 PM
I'm having a wee discrepancy here with ZLIB—I have an IDAT portion of a PNG image: 789C63608083F894A8FF00046A021D which I believe should decompress as 00000000000000000000005F645AFF but I get: GZIP compressed size less than minimum for gzip format (tested in Ren Garden)
 

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