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3:28 AM
red>> case [true add 1 2]
== 3

red>> case [false add 1 2]
== 2
(Yes, I've pointed it out years ago, but was just checking...latest build still does this.)
 
 
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7:46 AM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE Got the additions installed now. It is better, though switching between applications within the VM is harder now, switches right back to the host, and scrolling inside terminals windows must now be done with the scrollbars, not the mousewheel. The host networking connection disturbances are annoying, I have to live with these.
I have the VBox directory to be my main disk, very dumb idea, had not thought about it, cannot be moved to the bigger storage disk (same disk other partition, other filesystem format) tried this with a couple of Vmachines i could spare and lost them in the process. Think I will have to remove em all and reinstall for this to work.
I had Ubuntu freeze on me on the login screen for it had noticed the space on my hd was running out and notified me or the system, anyway could not login for the world and had to reboot. Good thing I had saved a lot of my notes and other work AND the state of the CentOS VM.
 
 
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8:59 AM
Wow managed to open and close my connection now!
 
9:09 AM
And I can get the server info: Mysql server info: 10.2.32-MariaDB
So now, during the following days I will test querying and add some more functions I had skipped before.
 
 
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1:26 PM
Just as a reminder for myself: rlwrap r3 to get great cmdline editing!
 
 
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5:46 PM
@iArnold Virtual machines can get bigger than 4GB and won't fit on FAT32 partitions. You have to format those drives to NTFS or "ExFAT"; ExFAT is more compatible with Mac/etc. It was created for SD cards but works on drives as well.
If you are going to muck with VMs (copy/etc.) you have to go through the VirtualBox interface to do so or it gets complicated. It's unforgivably bad as a design point. They supposedly have reasons why you have to use the Clone button instead of being able to do whatever clone does to copies after the fact, but those reasons are bound to be excuses and boneheaded.
But, being open source, I suppose I should submit a patch or stop complaining.
 
6:10 PM
@giuliolunati Not that it's easy but it should be easier than ever to change the command line editing behavior, e.g. this switch statement
Of course that should be moved ahead to usermode behavior...but...it's getting closer.
 
 
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7:47 PM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE Nah, completely wast of time. They are not really interested in non windows host development. And I like to complain about these things, it is my troll (tm) nature. ;-)
 
8:33 PM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE thanks for the link
 
@giuliolunati The evolution has moved a little bit... the history is stored in a BLOCK!, the buffer is kept as a UTF-8 TEXT! the whole time. But the stdio "port" was always rather confusing; it only gets more confusing with Ctrl-C and other issues. But I've looked at a fair bit of console code, and I think this is moving to an interesting point others don't have.
There is nuance because, if you are running usermode to implement the console... and then you use Rebol values to do things like indicate a canceled state, you don't want calling into the API to test a value to see if it is the cancel state to itself cancel :-/
So it has to think of some parts of the console as being non-cancelable or "kernel"; this concept is something that's getting more formalized.
 
8:55 PM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE that means arrow keys should work? (not for me)
 
@giuliolunati They should (work for me on Linux). The relevant code is here for decoding ^[A
@giuliolunati Note this code is only active if REBOL_SMART_CONSOLE is defined, so be sure that's defined in your build.
 
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE I'm using Travis builds...
 
@giuliolunati If the build you're using is built with < C11 or < C++11 it will not have the smart console, because it relies on the variant of libRebol that doesn't require rebEND
@giuliolunati Notes here
> "In the near term, the odds are we're only going to be seeing these C89 build modes on Travis or wherever we force the issue... as a matter of principle. We could also say "to heck with it, don't waste the time up front...let someone else do it if and when it comes up". But I think I'd rather keep it going."
If someone wanted to rig up a Travis build farm that made "user experience executables" instead of builds that were designed just for development, that's fine... I just don't want to be involved with it.
My use of Travis is to try and test a spectrum of platform configurations and compilers
I'm still feeling still pretty solid on "paths are not series". If you want to treat a path as a series, you coerce it to a read-only BLOCK! which changes how it looks. as block! '/b/ => [_ b _]
This puts more parity between PATH! and WORD! in terms of their "moment of immutability" when being formed, and coheres with their purpose to do lookups.
And I do want a TUPLE! parallel. I wonder if taking comma for TUPLE! would satisfy people who believe the . is DECIMAL!'s birthright. 1,2 1,[a b],"hi" etc.
I'm personally not bothered one bit by the idea of representing DECIMAL! with 1,2 meaning "one point two", and then having a cool generic TUPLE! type where 1.2.(a b).c can be used as a structured non-series that also allows 1.2
 
9:44 PM
@HostileForksaysdonttrustSE I agree, only reason I'm using Travis builds is lazyness ;-)
 
10:17 PM
Today I'm doing the un-looked-forward-to thing of stacklessing paths. It's not necessarily that difficult to blindlessly push it around, but I want to do better than that...try and get at some of the missing "never articulated theory of what path dispatch is".
 
11:09 PM
One of the complex issues in pathing is what might be called "subcell addressing". This is to say something like gob/location/x: 10... when location is some kind of packed bit representation that fits in less than a cell. If gob/location happily produces a PAIR!, that works for reading...but that PAIR! is fabricated, so writing to it has no effect on the initial GOB!.
This comes up other places, like the FFI. The hacks that implemented this were awful.
 

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