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7:25 AM
In a world where = and EQUAL? are strict, and the "lax" phenomenon is known as IS, I've said I think the right name for the refinement that asks things like FIND to honor case sensitivity should be called either FIND/EQUAL and then specialized as FIND= ... or the refinement should be named = and you say FIND/=.
I kind of feel like FIND/= might be better than FIND=, and would avoid the need to make the specializations. I think that it really drives home this idea that you see that symbol and it jumps out as saying "hey, this isn't going with the usual case-insensitivity" and while it is a bit jarring, it is good that it does so.
After writing the article I think I'm more convinced that string processing should not in general be case sensitive--if you're using letters, those are for humans to say and see and type, and case sensitivity puts a big tax on that. The instances where you wind up with letters needing to be case-sensitive (like, let's say Base64) are arguably the "hacks" in the medium...they should have been BINARY! if not for being ugly tricks.
 
 
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9:12 AM
IS is the = in some speaking sense. "TeSt" IS "test". Sounds good to me. It is a good thing to have both kind of comparisons available. Even if I know for myself that I will often go wrong using = when I mean IS.
 
9:39 AM
How about =/= for <> as an extra alternative? Any status?
 
posted on October 20, 2018 by hostilefork

If the data on the clipboard does not have CR LF sequences but only LF, no newlines will be inserted into the console on the paste. This happens, for instance, when copying from a Linux virtual machine into a Windows host. Side effects of this include comments breaking the LOAD, since all the lines of input are compressed into one line.

 
@iArnold =/= would be a PATH!. I suppose one might consider a concept where the /= refinement to = would cause it to act as not equal. However, paths don't dispatch enfix directly, so you'd have to say foo -> =/= bar instead of just foo =/= bar. It's an amusing idea, which might be worth going with if not for that.
I think the general idea is to teach people IS first, and not mention =. Then later when people get upset because they can't compare strings case sensitively, or differentiate the integer 1 from the decimal 1.0, you tell them about =.
 
 
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11:21 AM
posted on October 20, 2018 by hostilefork

The ultimate goal of this commit is to eliminate the STRICT-EQUAL? family of functions and operators, by not having a form of equality that is "more equal than equal". Instead, the lax form of equality in default use by FIND, SWITCH and other operators would be called "is-ness". So "A" is not equal to "a", but "A" IS "a". This adds IS and ISN'T, while temporarily making the former lax eq

 
 
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5:08 PM
We've previously discussed BEFORE? and AFTER? for the case insensitive forms of LESS-THAN? and GREATER-THAN?... but PRECEDES? and FOLLOWS? may be better. They're a little weirder, but I think before and after are fairly common variable names (conflicting with x before b on infix form), and there's something "time-oriented" about before/after whereas precedes and follows really seem more "order-oriented"
 
5:43 PM
posted on October 20, 2018 by noreply

Thank you for your patience. With all the other work going on, we've been juggling priorities. But now, at long last, it's time for an updated Red Wallet. There are still a lot of pieces in progress for future releases, but this version adds some key upgrades. If you missed the original wallet announcement, here's a short feature list from that: Secure ETH and RED token transactions.

 
6:01 PM
@HostileFork Kind of nice idea, but it is like keeping certain knowledge away from children, for their best interest. But we are not dealing with children but with people sensible enough have an interest, or to be or become programmers, so we tell them all there is to know right away. (whilst not overflowing with that)
 
 
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7:13 PM
posted on October 20, 2018 by @hostilefork Brian Dickens

@hostilefork wrote: The historical /MATCH refinement to FIND is somewhat confusing. It basically requires the find to either occur specifically at the current position or not, and then returns the tail. r3-alpha> find/match "abcd" "ab" == "cd" r3-alpha> find/match "abcd" "bc" == none Meanwhile, there is now a MATCH native which is used to do so

 
Can a variadic function know when an argument is the last one on a line?
 
posted on October 20, 2018 by hostilefork

Let s: "abcd". In R3-Alpha and Red: >> find/part s "a" s == none >> find/part s "a" next s == "abcd" >> find/part s "ab" next s == "abcd" >> find/part s "bc" next s == none In Ren-C: >> find/part s "a" s ;-- null >> find/part s "a" next s == "abcd" >> find/part s "ab" next s ;-- null // !!! This isn't right >> find/part s "bc" next s ;

 
@MarkI Yes. And I have come to believe that it is likely that embracing the ability of code to see whether elements are marked with newline may be an okay idea, in a limited sense.
find-old-match-behavior: specialize (adapt 'find [
    part: true
    limit: next series
])[
    part: false
    tail: true
]
^-- That is very cool. That's a tiny amount of Rebol, to implement what was a mouthful in the C code to do /MATCH spread around in several places...and doing it that way means it doesn't expose incompatible refinements in the help!
And as I just learned, exercises common code paths more so you notice when there's a bug. :-/
 
8:15 PM
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9:20 PM
>> type of #RAMBO/3518
== path!

>> first #RAMBO/3518
== #RAMBO
^-- a reminder to those who haven't absorbed it yet... PATH!s with inert heads are themselves inert. So since that path starts with an ISSUE!, it just evaluates to itself (as opposed to, say, giving you the 3,518th character of the issue). This is rather useful.
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10:19 PM
posted on October 20, 2018 by lucindamichele

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