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12:30 AM
@JacobGood1 Decided to rebase the changes on my zlib subsetting commit from way back and am getting some error at boot time, and am having a perfect storm of sinus headache and too-much-staring-at-screen slowing me down. :-/ But I'll figure it out.
@ingo Cool, yes... Ren Garden is dependent on the rebol-proposals submodule. Make sure you've fetched it: github.com/metaeducation/ren-cpp/tree/develop/examples/…
 
 
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2:50 AM
@rgchris Hm, link really gets mangled in the starred posts—here it is as raw: desktop.rebol.info/show?http://rebol.info/index.reb
 
Thanks to @rgchris you can find RebolBot's bookmarks here desktop.rebol.info/show?http://rebol.info/index.reb
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^^^ more "starrable" as a link
 
@johnk Thanks! Of course my earlier post looks fine in the Starred Posts Feed (available to all good Feed Readers)! :D
 
3:07 AM
@rgchris very nice. I just added that to my feedly list.
 
3:23 AM
@johnk You may also like the Conversations Feed too! (was a wee bit tricky putting this one together—it's a scraper and may break over time).
 
 
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5:56 AM
Congratulations @HostileFork
 
@johnk A lot of effort for a Rebol that doesn't do anything new ;-) But that's the foundation for the rest of the work. C++ has magics...
error strings corrected. If anyone notices details like that speak up...
 
6:15 AM
How has memory allocation changed? I was reading the interesting comments in reb-c.h and would be interested in an overview
 
@johnk Prior to the idea of "coherence one" I wasn't going to leave in the idea of Rebol's current memory pooling. I just pulled it out and used malloc/free. By having a distinct allocation unit for every need of memory and freeing, and not zero-filling it (and thus making it appear to be "marked as set), valgrind and address sanitizer could work with it and find bugs.
Since I'm going back and doing changes one bit at a time, I can leave the memory pools in as they are and just have a switch. We can discuss what to do about it in more detail. It's not essential to rip it out, and possible that it might be better to think of a way to improve it instead.
But that is not in this commit... as I say, it's a compiler baseline for the language support. So what's coming up next is the other work, which will use these definitions and be able to compile in strict/pedantic mode.
Though I'm trying to pick the order of steps. There are patches for higher warning levels that are important and have caught some bugs. Most importantly is catching any new bugs as code is mutated... before they happen!
 
6:34 AM
@HostileFork that sounds like a good approach
 
6:59 AM
@HostileFork Thanks and congrats! The diff file is huge and impressive. I think you need to take a vacation to some place where you can just relax for a while and recover your verve! Looking forward to what comes next!
 
7:15 AM
@gnat Nope, we've got to get all this stuff integrated first. Otherwise, what was the point? :-)
 
Fork - if you are going to take a vacation, don't forget the cat, she would definitely enjoy it too :-)
 
@pekr Cat has a leash, and it's really just drag-a-cat-down-the-street... so probably not!
 
 
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10:07 AM
>> 1
 
; Brought to you by: try.rebol.nl
== 1
 
^ @RebolBot is back to her old self. Kaj opened up http as well as https :-)
 
10:20 AM
red> reverse "?ereh u r"
 
; Brought to you by: try.rebol.nl
== "r u here?"
 
10:56 AM
@johnk Thanks tons. So char restrictions have returned to none?
Apparently the world (or at least this room :) looks different for "owners". Interesting.
But I still can't change RebolBot links? I suppose I could create a new one ... but I won't.
@HostileFork Great news! You will only have to wait until I read every diff before hearing my comments :)
 
 
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12:43 PM
That was some big commit.
 
1:24 PM
@Morwenn Yup! Say, question came up...if you saw it: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/23879226#23879226
 
@HostileFork I remember having multiple times expressed doubts about whether this line should work and why it worked.
 
@Morwenn I'm sure you have :-) But I lose track of things if they're not in a tracker or if there's not an explicit remark on the line. Anyway, I'll queue it in the issues if you don't offhand know or have a good idea of how to reduce the case for an SO Q&A
 
I guess that std::function stores a const reference to the lambda's instance, which means that there is a lifetime extension of the lambda expression until the std::function is destructed. Otherwise, lambda expression wouldn't work well with std::function.
 
@MarkI no worries. Yes, back to her old self
 
@HostileFork And then the constructed std::function is passed to FunctionGenerator which takes a const std::function&, so the temp std::function (which actually has a copy of the lambda instance) lifetime is extended until the FunctionGenerator is destructed.
I guess that everything manages to survive as needed between the copies and the lifetime extensions due to const references.
 
1:39 PM
Once the Ren/C is patched up, I'll need to run Ren/C++ through the undefined behavior sanitizer and see if any warning bells are set off...
 
I think that you might have some surprises. I can't guarantee that all the reference stuff and tricks everywhere are 100% safe.
 
 
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3:27 PM
@HostileForkCongratulations and Thank You for getting Coherence One ready.
@HostileFork successfull-ren-garden-compiles: successfull-ren-garden-compiles + 1 ; yes, missing proposals
 
@ingo Great to hear... if you hit any hardships along the way do feel to add them to the documentation. I think what's going to happen to Rebol Proposals is they're going to get pulled out and into Ren/C... so it will be Ren/C that will be the submodule
 
@HostileFork Well, I didn't see the submodule mentioned in the documentation. And then git didn't fetch it.
The hardest part was getting free space for Qt.
 
@ingo Be glad you didn't have to recompile Qt.
 
@HostileFork I'm not sure wether it makes sense to add it, if it will be moved, anyway.
@Morwenn Sure I am.
 
@ingo That bit is probably not a priority, no. Ren/C will have the proposals and an R3/Backward.
 
3:35 PM
For example, if I want to recompile Ren/C++, I either have to wait or to compile Qt by myself .___.
Which means that I have to wait either way.
 
Now, if I knew more about C than print "Hello World" ...
 
@ingo And you managed to actually compile Ren Garden without knowing more? .___.
 
@Morwenn @HostileFork I hardly know more ... And after getting the proposals, Ren Garden just compiled, using the documentation and nothing more.
 
I'm dumbfounded.
 
Well, it did get beaten on by O(10) builders...
 
3:42 PM
Now of course, there's always Windows and 64 Bit :-)
Sorry, have to run now.
 
@HostileFork I guess that the step-by-step HOWTO to build the whole thing is mature enough then.
 
@ingo Thanks again for building, hoping to have some more interesting stuff shortly.
 
 
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5:22 PM
@HostileFork Any on Windows ? :)
 
@HostileFork where is the link to ren garden again?
 
@JacobGood1 In a new location with the other Ren-C stuff: github.com/metaeducation/ren-cpp/blob/develop/doc/build.md
 
 
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10:46 PM
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