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17:03
ok, so whats the problem here then?
The problem is that those colors will overlap in unpredictable ways. I just can't generate a style for each such overlap.
Or maybe I'm missing something obvious.
Maybe I could generate 30 classes, but still, is there a more elegant way?
if youre going to do it that way, you cant give the color a tint. you need to use a neutral
@cimmanon sorry?
your border with alpha transparency
Can't I do borders with alpha transparency?
17:09
yes, you can, but you cant give it a tint. it has to be some form of neutral, like black, white, or grey
Why not? How is it different from what I was doing with backgrounds overlaying?
its not clear here what youre trying to do at all
Ahhh...
I'm overlaying background colors. And I want to overlay border colors as well. Just the same way as words, the only problem is that borders may have two variants: top or bottom. And that complicates things.
show a picture, youre not explaining this very well at all. because it looks like what you already have does what you want
In the fiddle the problem part is "ar" in the middle. I went ahead and made a pre-defined style for "ar" just to illustrate things visually. In reality I'd like to have two styles here instead of three.
17:15
again, clear as mud
In other words, a red border above would overlay against the green background and turn yellowish, and likewise the green border below would overlay against the red background.
Now that I've said it I start to understand it may be impossible since borders cannot overlay backgrounds.
I'll try to make a Photoshop mockup.
crl
crl
Any opinion on tether? my boss used it for some reason
17:31
Here's my photoshop. Again, it's only a visual representation. jsfiddle.net/h2mp4c0b/3
The code is already getting out of hand, CSS-wise.
Ideally for that example I want to have: 3 background colors, 2 border types. That's it.
@ЗахарJoe try this: jsfiddle.net/h2mp4c0b/4
crl
crl
.b0 {border-bottom: 1px;}
.b1 { border-top: 1px;} // all you need
@crl have you not been following along at all?
crl
crl
yes :D, never understood if he wants border and bg the same color or not
clearly you havent. he wants the border color to a similar color as the background
crl
crl
17:43
ok
AH-HA!
Awesome!
crl
crl
also you closed span twice, hmm what ok span in span
@crl there are 2 open spans
@ЗахарJoe youll have to play around with the colors a bit, some colors dont look as good as others when you start overlapping them
Abe
Abe
yesterday, by Abe
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i hate when they ask me "do me a export to pdf/doc/xls thingy". like browsers can't print/display text/display tabular data
yesterday, by Abe
I HATE ITTTTTT
@cimmanon Thank you very much for offering the solution. It's what I was looking for. My attempts with borders are so crude.
Abe
Abe
17:47
and the most ridiculous thing is that is export for stuff that is modified daily
like you download a pdf and a minute later it's old already
@cimmanon I wonder why it works that way with colors, i.e. there's only one "multiply" mode where the overlaying colors get darker.
it works the same way as adjusting the transparency of layers in photoshop
crl
crl
gah if only outline-top-width could work, that would have been easier for your thing, with border it sucks jsfiddle.net/crl/h2mp4c0b/6 maybe that's not what he wanted anyway, not sure
@crl outline is no different than border
@cimmanon wat
17:57
@BoltClock youll have to scroll up a bit for context. basically, the desired end result is this: jsfiddle.net/h2mp4c0b/4
crl
crl
how does it differ from mine except the offsets?
@cimmanon having a hard time understanding the OP's requirements
@crl the color is wrong on the "r"
Also @cimmanon it seemed pretty obvious to me the issue with that question was with SCSS authoring - that which results in invalid CSS
They seem to be asking how to fix their SCSS so it produces valid CSS
crl
crl
yea ok, maybe with outline it could have work, with sort of putting them one layer down
18:03
I'm not sure how just duping to a question about what is valid CSS is any helpful, unless the answer is "don't use sass", in which case I concede :p
@BoltClock the fact that the OP doesnt realize that theyre generating invalid CSS is a problem
Does anyone here know of a program (preferably web-based) that groups css selectors based on common rules? For instance, a program that converts .web { color: blue; } .design { color: blue; } to .web, .design { color: blue; }?
Don't all speak at once...
This rule is painful right now: Don't ask to ask, just ask, and ask once!
Room Rules :1. Speak English! 2. Don't be a dick! *end of room rules* ... Nice ;)
18:19
So you're targeting properties and then grouping the selectors into one statement?
Rule 2 doesn't always apply
@Plummer Yeah, efficiency is the goal... and cleanliness I guess... css-tricks.com/efficiently-rendering-css
There might be something in gulp that can do this, but I think you'll have a hard time finding a web based solution.
@Plummer Hate to say I've never heard of it... checking it out on google...
Do you know what node is?
@Plummer Yes... I play around with socket.io from time to time... Seems to me that there should be some sort of straight javascript solution...
18:26
@HelpingHand css.github.io/csso
Also here's a pretty good article with some other techniques as well.
@Plummer Thanks for the links! The top one seems to do the trick although I didn't aim on minifying it. I guess I'll just run it through this afterwards.
@Plummer Kudos for the help!
@cimmanon As for the layers, there are multiple options for combining them in Photoshop, CSS transparency combines them in only one way out of many.
18:44
@ЗахарJoe it uses the default blending option
Are there any other options?
So CSS isn't the answer to Photoshop... yet.
Thanks for the links.
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/11/20/when-i-expain-to-the-customer-that-their-sdk-is-broken/
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When I expain to the customer that their SDK is broken
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crl
18:56
!!xkcd new
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crl
@ЗахарJoe nice
All this new stuff too... display: flex and vw for sizes...
19:55
@BoltClock: Our resident womens' rights advocate responsed to that "Spine not found" thread of mine: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/310746/1835379 What the.... What. o.O
I'm not sure if I should feel insulted, amused, or sorry.
I suggest you take a step back, read over this answer again, and reconsider if this is really how you want yourself to be represented on SO. I'm not going to respond to this answer's contents just yet... — Cerbrus 18 secs ago
20:17
@Cerbrus have you watched the latest south park episode? :D
Nope?
have you watched any episodes at all this season?
Heh, nope
I really should
yes, you need to
south park has been taken over by the SJWs
principal victoria got replaced by "PC Principal"
Hm, gotta find a "legal" streaming service :P
20:20
opening scene from the latest episode, pc principal is screaming in the halls, "who did this? ill break his legs".
someone used the word "retarded" in the school newspaper
kyle points to jimmy (the editor of the paper) and says "still going to break his legs?"
Ough
I gotta see that :P
Guess I gotta start at 01 of this season
yes, start with ep1, since all of the other episodes build on top of it
Oh cool, looks like comedy central's hosting the episodes online
Sweeeet
5 minutes into the 1st episode: This is exactly what the meta thread is about xD
20:37
the one about yelp reviewing isnt relevant to SJWs, but most are
crl
crl
20:48
That's a canis discussion
!!mdn css initial
21:06
Shots returned.
@Cerbrus stop whinging :p
Meh :P
think i should introduce her to my 3 favorite letters? e, a, and d :p
Wouldn't you run into... practical issues, during the introduction?
21:21
i didnt say it had to be mine :p
i keep hoping to egg her into accusing me of not being a woman at all
Hehe, that'd be something
+5 / +4 / +4 on my comments now. I feel specal :P
21:41
hey all, I think I am in desperate need of some advice
I have a web dev interview in two weeks.
@popshuvit what sort of advice are you looking for?
My portfolio is outdated and lacking. A few months ago, I lost all my data that was stored on my internal backup drive (I got an internal one because external ones transfer too slow even with usb 3). So it wasn't really possible to rebuild all of my best stuff that I've made over the years in such a short period of time especially when you take into account other responsibilities that take up time
But the interviewer was impressed with what little I have in my portfolio, but I feel like I need to bring something extra into the interview
front end or back end stuff?
both. it's a front end job though I am expecting there to be some backend involvement (just a feeling I have about the job)
is there something you feel is missing in your portfolio? you say that its outdated, are there new skills youve learned since you put it together?
21:47
I don't really have anything worth bringing in though. i have a few things but just not sure if its going to be useful at the interview
well there's a lot i feel is missing in the portfolio but that's not to say that those skills are missing. i have those skills, they're just not in my portfolio anymore (accidently formatted wrong drive)
i had a hard drive failure 2 summers ago, so i can completely sympathize.
i lost about 7 years worth of work (original assets, unpublished code, etc.)
i have a few sites that demonstrate my ability to make responsive sites that scale down to 64px wide but
yeah that really sucks. i also did suffer from a weird bug when in installed a tech preview (i know...) of windows 10 a while ago. caused me to lose a lot of stuff that i hadn't backed up
but the stuff on my internal backup drive was my best work. i don't even think i remember how i wrote it all. if i wanted to redo it again, i'd have to go through all the planning again. and after planning the code would more than likely be very different to how it was written in the past.
i guess my advice would be to not dwell too much on all of that lost code. i dont know how long youve been coding for, but i find that my own style has changed dramatically over the years
what can i do so they can see that i know what i'm doing? Would making a bunch of different templates be enough?
@cimmanon: I think that's the resident evil soundtrack in south park xD
21:54
i would be embarrassed to show them code i wrote 10, 5, or even 3 years ago
yeah, mine has changed a lot too. it's gone from inline styles in the beginning to separate s/sheet files to mixins, pollyfills and several frameworks/libraries etc
yep lol. me too.
so unless your intent is to show the evolution of your coding style, i would just say to start a fresh project
what do you use for presenting your portfolio? that might be a good place to start
Well any computer that has a major web browser installed basically. I could bring in my iPad or MacBook but I don't like carrying them around. Too annoying (with the MacBook). So I was just gonna rely on them allowing me to show them my stuff on their pc basically. Not sure if that's even OK but it's worked in the past
what i mean is, do you use a CMS of some sort? did you hand write the HTML? etc.
crl
crl
I can make things scale down to 32px, more reponsive than you :p
22:01
oh sorry. yeah i have exp. with CMS but i dont like them i always prefer to hand-write html. i have built 2 cms for clients in the past.
@crl hahaha
yeah, but what do you use for your portfolio?
just a typical website. hand written.. asp.net/c#/razor.. typescript with some ajax. not cms at the moment it's a plain empty site consisting of navigation elements and 1 item in the portfolio page (i started rewriting the site just days before i found out about the interview)
i guess what i am trying to get at is that the best thing you could take to an interview is a passion project, something youve written because you love it
something that youre going to take a lot of pride in, without having someone hanging over your shoulder, forcing you to make compromises
That's one of the things I lost. ;-( I think it's too short notice to reproduce it now. I built a careers website. I don't wanna go into all the features as there are a lot of unique features, but the main two features were live directions to interview location and live video interviews. it was a finished project which i planned on starting up/releasing but life got in the way
I think I still have many screenshots of it though. Would screenshots count? I doubt it. would be too easy to fake i guess
i am sure they would help, but living code would help more
22:13
yeah
22:26
do most people even bring in portfolios? in recent interviews, I've only seen 1 person who brought something with them.
i didnt have to interview for my first IT job. my second job, the application required writing a small sample application that fulfilled specific requirements
sh&t lol. i always fail when i get asked to "prove" myself. 10 minutes later i can do it easily. probably need to work on that
oh, the program didnt have to be written on the spot. i just submitted it with my resume
crl
crl
I like how you can pass the border color/width/style in any order
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