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16:00
ugh
"Rynaldo Stoltz"
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I love it when they disable right click :P
found my next ddos target...
lol
I wouldn't joke about that in here if I were you
lol that website isn't even active
remember the js room silliness
16:03
it redirects to a monster.com job search
@Kitler I don't visit the JS room
tl;dr some hag from the anti gamer gate movement was publicly shaming people, guys in the js room joked about ddosing her, she saw some traffic coming from the room and tweeted about it
guys got banned
for a week or so
iirc that was the first miaou migration
meh
even if I were serious I couldn't ddos a site that doesn't exist :-P
lol
gist.github.com/karlcow/f694f876641bb47676e0 looks like I'm not the only one who feels this way...
hmm this guy is south african
@Katler what's wrong with you people!
that js
16:15
I also like to abbreviate my words by taking out one letter
mousedown -> mousedwn
gtfo
@Sippy oops, did I accidentally make fun of something you do? :-P
@TylerH No, but that sass won't fly here, sonny boy!
okay
lands the sass plane
rofl
16:41
@SomeGuy awesome thanks
thats a great idea man
I never considered doing that
okay, why are my pseudo-elements making the white child div not sit at the top of the grey container? jsfiddle.net/TylerH/g3wc86ue
@TylerH 'cause position: relative?
only the pseudo elements are relative though
and they still take up space
relative positioning only adjusts where it appears to reside, the browser still allocates space for it in its original location
Okay, I see that the ::before element for some reason is originally rendering inside the grey box instead of outside of it
I forget that it's replaced content and it is placed immediately before the parent's content rather than immediately before the parent
Pseudo-elements aren't replaced content (uhhh, not unless you want to get really technical)
and I don't see any replaced content in your fiddle
@BoltClock ur a pseudo element
@BoltClock getting technical is the best kind of getting
and I was referring to the content of the pseudo element anyway
But in your case it isn't replaced
content:""; is a non-replaced inline box containing the empty string
... actually fuck that
!!tell BoltClock ead
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17:01
@BoltClock Eat a Dick™
uhm
Did bolt just come out of the closet?
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I wish attr() was accessible not just in content of pseudo-shits
seems like a bastardization of the markup to use it like that.
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ah ok
17:04
if you want inline styles, just use inline styles.
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I want to use js in css :p
why u dont need js just use more jquery for everything
@crl Good news, it's supported in IE5, 6, 7, 8 and 9. Bad news, it's not in IE10+ or Edge
jquerys so much better thn js
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@BoltClock ok
but yes I can repeat inline css also
17:06
@BoltClock one of the few times it's bad news when something is no longer the case with newer versions of IE
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I wish scoped CSS was implemented not just in FF too :) but already discussed, and I'll use an iframe for separating 2 things
@crl scoped CSS is implemented in Chrome
at least
via ShadowDOM
Oh, I see what you mean
Yeah, Chrome decided to remove that
@cimmanon I wouldn't compare it to inline styles. If I were to implement input type="color" from scratch I could imagine myself doing something like input[type=color]::before { content: ''; /* box model props... */ background-color: attr(value color); }
weird... explorer.exe just decided to stop responding on me
That's a totally valid use case that doesn't involve bastardizing the markup at all
17:13
Also I think it's bullshit that chromestatus.com doesn't load on browsers other than Chrome
Sometimes you have these presentational values that are meaningful content or data and you want to reflect that dynamically in the CSS. That's fine
Of course someone could abuse it resulting in inline-style-esque attrs in their markup. But that's their fault
@TylerH s/chromestatus.com/any website at all/
@BoltClock too true
Has no one learned from the IE/NN days
Oh wait, half the people making websites now weren't even born yet
i never thought we would be going back to the dark ages of "works best in [insert browser/device here]", but apparently some people think it is a good thing
anybrowser.org <- been around since forever
hmmm according to tests on browser stack it does work on Safari/Firefox
so they must be blocking access behind some cookie that I'm filtering via ghostery
17:24
Hi there! I'm looking for a better way to do these in CSS (without the colored squares) : puu.sh/liZOl/35135a0f1f.jpg (the "arrowed lines") ... but it's hard to research when you don't know what that thing is called. Could someone tell me if these things have a name?
actually I'm not even using ghostery on this browser...
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? jsfiddle isn't compiling sass...? jsfiddle.net/tgxwvuu6
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probably stupid question, but can you extend the limits of an HTML element, without adding more space (overflowing possible neightbors but doesn't matter)? the thing is there jsfiddle.net/crl/3h3nqr8e/5 the outer blue handle is not accessible, because the hover is lost when you want to reach it
it shouldn't modify the absolute positions of the elements (it's for a CMS)
Billy, not sure, I didn't even know that thing existed in sass (that double underscore thing) or what it does
@Billy looks like a bug, unless there's a problem with the sass syntax
I don't know sass though
17:31
@Ariane Something like this: jsfiddle.net/58uw1v73
the two underscores are just part of the selector
@crl how about making your handles children of the element you wanted and putting them as position: absolute; ?
@Billy That's close to what I did. Problem is, your method still leaves a white square:
Ah, I see, you wan't it transparent
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@Ariane aren't they already?
@Ariane Does it have to be a dynamic width? Or is fixed OK?
@crl uhm... wait I'm not sure I understand. I think I'm tired. Those "outer handles"... what element are they?
@Billy Fixed is OK.
Ooooh I did that for my lined titles and it didn't even occur to me to do it with the arrows. Thanks @Billy!
So in the end, what ar ethose "arrowed lines" called?
Don't know :P
Not sure if there is a name for them
Either way thanks a bunch
got an upvote on this flexbox answer and I'm just like :|
@Billy Any reason in particular why you used height and background-color instead of border?
17:54
@Ariane Nope, both would work the same I think. And you're welcome :)
All right. I'l lgo with border. For some reason in your previous example height 1px displayed differently from border 1px so I want to be safe
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18:11
does :hover not apply on absolute positioned elements?
jsfiddle.net/crl/3h3nqr8e/11 the top 'blue handle' can appear if you access it from below, but not from the sides and the top
it should appear when I'm hovering on the blue cross, because it's there (top: -2.5rem), but it doesn't
z-shit-index
nope doesn't work
seriously what's wrong jsfiddle.net/crl/3h3nqr8e/12
http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2015/11/12/pay-to-pitch-to-randoms-the-next-big-idea/
CommitStrip
Pay to pitch to randoms, the next big idea!
CommitStrip
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display:none probly
!!mdn visibility
@crl I'm sorry, I can't even grasp how this all works right now. I need sleep.
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18:28
approach with your mouse the "Welcome To ..." from the top, until the blue cross, there the damn top handle is just there, but it doesn't show up
sup
Yeah I see it but my brain can't process the problem. Maybe making a very simplistic fiddle would help you understand the problem better. Sometimes it helps me
@crl pretty sure that's not a property
18:52
hello everyone ...are some of you into mobile hybrid app development with ionic? i need some advices on something
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@TylerH @crl i didn't kick anyone
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yeah knew it :)
@Abe If I had a dollar for every time Abe kicked me I could buy a Ferrari!
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did i?
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18:56
boo
are you sure you were kicked from this room @crl ?
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@Abe yes just 1minute though
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mah. wonder who did that
it was before 9AM so I wasn't awake yet
19:13
@crl did you figure out the issue?
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my boss made me work on css all day..
so you did figure it out?
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it works like I need yes
the 'overlay' shows up when I'm at less than 2rem of the element, so just before entering it
Can you not hover the parent when the child is hovered?
I'm stupid
what's the diff between .child > .handle:hover and .child:hover > .handle ?
19:33
The hover is on a different element
What if you have other elements in the container (.child)
@crl sounds like a good day
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lol
@PeeHaa ah ok
grr css is so fishy with ending semi-periods, there should be a ASI too :)
*colons I assume
lol
semi periods
ASI?
19:49
automatic semicolon insertion I am guessing
@crl considering a lot of CSS is minified it would be nearly impossible to handle that
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20:10
@TylerH but ASI would occur before minification, like in JS I guess
but ok, here's my final thing: jsfiddle.net/crl/3h3nqr8e/17
@crl some people even write the code in minified form
you can, however, omit the semi-colon from the last property-value pair in each selector
because a } forces the end of the current property value
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yes I noticed that, a bit like JS objects where you can put an ending comma or not (better without)
20:28
I enjoy the comments on bjb's nomination these past two elections
wut
he's building a SO killer
0.o
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@ZachSaucier link?
So far I like Madara, Andy, and Ed Cottrell
I'm looking at Madara, Undo, and probably Ed
Though it's hard to argue against Andy's flagging
62,772 helpful flags
I may switch Ed out for him
or Undo out for him, hmm
@TylerH he does scripting for it
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20:42
Ed must be a cool guy, seeing his avatar :)
I hate when my flags are declined then the thing I flag gets deleted
like wth
@ZachSaucier that does suck
could be a community deletion or user deletion or another moderator
@BoltClock why are you not running for moderator?
Because we'd be ashamed of him for doing so
I don't see any output
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browser?
Chrome on ChromeOS
🍕
is that a cat head?
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oh shit it looks magnificient on FF
20:59
I think it's pizza
I'll run my virtual environment to see so then :P
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^ FF
I wish the fiddle would load on Firefix...
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ChromeOS would be so frustrating for me
It's not so bad
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can you install ... ? no
21:00
I can run Ubuntu when I want to
/ need to
But my PC is dead currently
ah there we go
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like an unicode is so big in size, to load :p
jsfiddle.net/usjr629w/2/embedded/result Which color scheme do you guys like the best
My speeches for public speech class this semester: "Expanding one's perspective: choose the path less traveled", "Edison: businessman, not inventor", "Sales speech: Selling a date experience with Yours Truly", and "A commemoration of playtime"
@TylerH for what?
@crl it's not about the content, it's about JSFiddle's site that makes it hang on first load half the time
@ZachSaucier just as a general color palette, they came as part of the images; I'm not really interested in those
21:14
the rightmost one
(just wondering what everyones preferences are)
I've enjoyed my speech class :)
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is it sometimes about programmation?
@crl do you mean my speeches?
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yep
21:16
Edison was ruthless
poor Tesla
I speak about developing/design in my free time, not for class
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too magnetic
we could be enjoying the fruits of direct current being shot hundreds of miles across the atmosphere by now but nooo Edison had to go and put the kibosh on that
?
We use AC in powerlines and such for travel
DC is used in devices and wall sockets
without being used in combination both aren't all that helpful in the real world
I meant AC sorry, not DC
One of Tesla's primary interests in coils was the wireless transference of current to power things
but he was with Westinghouse and the AC camp
21:19
Yes it was :P
Edison was all about DC
nigga I know all this
:P
Well you're the one who wrote "?" :-P
the ? was because of your comment
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AC/DC? make your choice
21:20
so I commented clarifying what is the case
@crl both
yeah if Tesla/Westinghouse had won that battle instead of Edison we wouldn't have much DC anywhere
but we need DC to give substantial charge to devices
there would've been a lot more money for Tesla to spend researching things like his coils
and other cool stuff
your phone, PC, etc. couldn't run on AC
Tesla didn't try to make money
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which one is lighter to transport and store? AC? (if that question makes sense)
21:21
even if Edison didn't exist Tesla would be poor as crap
@crl AC is better for transferring longs way; I assume DC is what batteries and such use but not sure, I've never looked it up
@ZachSaucier only because we don't know yet of a way to regulate AC smoothly
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Edison invented Telegram no? (pardon me if it's wrong)
@crl nope
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hehe, ok
he invented the quadruplex telegram (4 at once)
he didn't invent the lightbulb either
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21:23
the ancestor of internet
Morse invented the Telegraph IIRC
like 100 years before Edison had his famous breakthroughs
"breakthroughs"
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how did they produce electricity back in that time?
21:25
@crl hand cranking stuff, water mills
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ah ok
!!mdn offsetWidth
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what? browser support is ? everywhere.. out of date page
!!caniuse offset
21:30
@crl there's even a crude, ancient battery discovered found in Iraq from around 200BC
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@TylerH ew, that's hard to believe
Firefox supports them as readonly IIRC
I didn't know any browser supported them as write
21:33
@ZachSaucier I don't either
@crl it's a battery in the strict sense of the word; it stores electrical charge that can be discarged on a metal surface to sort of degauss it
if you will
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ok
You can see the tests there
Firefox fails, seems like Safari passes
anyway it's still very new and probably shouldn't be used in production code yet
(I think it's fine)
I thought it was the FBI that "killed" Tesla by destroying his tower and stealing his stuff? (correct me if I'm wrong)
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@TylerH it's ok, using it in react actually, I guess they make it work for browsers
21:40
Tesla killed himself practically
he went crazy and didn't care for money
but at the same time he is probably the brightest inventor the world has seen
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!!wiki nikola_tesla
Tesla may refer to: Nikola Tesla (1856–1943), electrical engineer and inventor. Tesla (unit) (symbol T), SI derived unit of magnetic flux density, named after Nikola Tesla Tesla may also refer to: == In arts and entertainment == Tesla (band), an American hard rock music band originating from Sacramento, California Tesla (Bleach), a minor character in the anime and manga series Bleach Tesla (opera), an opera about Nikola Tesla by Tasmanian composer Constantine Koukias Tesla Effect, the sixth game in the Tex Murphy series "Tesla Girls", a song by the British new wave band Orchestral Manoeuvres in...
@joshhunt I only know of the tale about them confiscating research documents on a death ray
but I dunno if it's true
Nikola Tesla (Serbian Cyrillic: Никола Тесла; 10 July 1856 – 7 January 1943) was a Serbian American inventor, electrical engineer, mechanical engineer, physicist, and futurist best known for his contributions to the design of the modern alternating current (AC) electricity supply system. Tesla gained experience in telephony and electrical engineering before emigrating to the United States in 1884 to work for Thomas Edison in New York City. He soon struck out on his own with financial backers, setting up laboratories and companies to develop a range of electrical devices. His patented AC induction...
but a Tesla death ray would probably just be a controlled beam version of an electric chair
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21:44
they don't mention his 'craziness'
I'll have to look it up, from memory I thought the FBI destroyed everything because they thought he was a spy. I wrote a report on him when I was 12 lol
probably inspired by tesla coils from red alert
IMO electrocution is sort of lame. I think it would be more diabolical to have someone swallow a bunch of metal spheres and then super magnetize a sealed chamber, to rip the persons body to shreds
as the balls all get attracted to magnets in the walls at different locations
sounds more expensive/need the equipment for it
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impalement may be tough too as a way to die
@ZachSaucier yeah but all the epic ways are
sharks with laserbeams, etc.
21:47
I was always a realist when it came to deaths
I hate(d) how villains took so long to kill people
in real life they almost always end it quick
and there's rarely ever much true combat person to person
one person usually dominates
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gotta make 🍕 rotate 6 times, to form a pizza, later
@ZachSaucier Yeah, I don't like the whole grand speech thing
but I love the inventive/creative ways to accomplish their goals that they always came up with
spend lots of time thinking up the method, then trap them there and commence!
get it all on video of course
22:06
does anyone know how to lower the difficulty setting on tinder?
@StephanMuller change your gender to female
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22:23
YouTube music app... interesting
can't say I'll use it
 
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23:53
@Cerbrus you know what i think bothers me the most about that meta thread? she makes women look like rambling, emotional people who can't express a rational thought.

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