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18:16
@CarrieKendall Roped in a couple more people in the SOCVR room
ugh
Firefox' "Document Expired" page is the most annoying thing
@CarrieKendall both are closed now, thanks to the CV room
Does anyone here know anything about ASP? Razor?
I have a co-worker that needs assistance, I typically hang out in the C# room and they are no help haha.
@JLott If they are no help, what makes you think we will be? :-P
But yes, I know maybe one thing about ASP.NET. There are two others at least who use ASP.NET/Razor but I hesitate to name them in case they are busy/uninterested
Haha, well.. good point. If you all get a chance, could you take a look at this question.
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Q: How to pass back model to controller using razor dropdownlist

tehlothiThanks in advance for helping with what I think should be a simple problem. I have a DropDownListFor control that I am wanting to show a display value that resides in a property within a model/class (this is the Rule class.) The view's model is actually a collection of these model/classes. Howeve...

The word HTML is in the tag lol. Soooo I thought I would give it a shot :P
18:34
Are you having the same problem?
@TylerH I am not actually working on it, but I know more people on SO. Thought I would help him get a little traffic. I don't really touch much web stuff outside of ESRI JS API
at my previous job won a public competition of a really huge budget
getting a bottle of rhum and going to revisit the chain of events that got me to pick always the worst decisions
i wish i was in america
@Worf are you drinking the rum currently?
so that id have easy access to guns
America!!!! :D
18:39
@Worf Come, we have Soccer and Ferraris and pizza. It will be just like home
You can probably get a gun easily in Italy if you don't mind signing your life away to the mafia
I live in Kentucky haha. Most lax gun laws in the country.
or take a barge down to Africa and then back across the Mediterranean
@TylerH \o
@TylerH and GUNS, you forgot GUNS, it's better
true
you can buy pretty much any kind of gun here
even some tanks
if you have enough money
18:56
ahahahah
'mmurica
@Worf where are you at now?
also why do you want such easy access to guns? :P
@Loktar World 2 Level 4
In some sewer pipe somewhere
"bonus level"
lol
@TylerH AHAHA
18:59
@Loktar just to commit suicide in the most clamorous and noisy way possible
a tank would do that well
do you know guns? @Loktar
Those are just 2 of my random/newest ones
you'd fit in with our family/state
@ZachSaucier where are you at again?
I want to say Georgia
but for some reason I keep thinking New England
ah ok cool
19:02
you have no idea how is for one non american hearing that someone owns a gun @Loktar
"a gun" lol
america: he owns a gun? what is it? an mp16?
rest of the world: he owns a guns? jesus christ must be a psychopath
@Worf haha
:D
19:04
don't forget the Swiss
I'm sure the rebels in Syria wish they had easier access to weapons initially
> an mp16
m16?
@ZachSaucier Yamamoto never actually said that IIRC; it's one of the famous misattributed quotes of history
I would love to have an M16
19:06
@Worf mp16 I think is technically a variant of the m16
@TylerH still good quote, regardless of who said it
but no one calls it an mp16
ar15 is probably more common with private ownership
@ZachSaucier true
yeah, ar-15 is the civilian equivalent
can't do full auto without illegal modifications
I only own Russian rifles personally
19:07
you see i don't even know the regular version you guys even know the fucking variants
Don't know if m16 can even do full auto anymore without mods
@Worf so? Same as any hobby :P
we shot them in the AF iirc the only setting they had was burst/single
not sure how old they were , they were terrible though
anyway @ZachSaucier about switzerland, it's not true imho
I think they are all replaced with the m4 now anyway
19:11
@Worf what's not true?
even if the politics about guns is the same of america i don't think 1 out 2 owns a gun
@ZachSaucier the "1 in 2 owns guns" stat, probably
not even close to that but i may be wrong
sure, but the mentality is right at least
even if it's not precise
basically you were right
in america 1:1 ahaha
19:21
@Worf most of that is probably cases where one person owns many guns
probably over half of all gun owners in america own more than one gun, I'd guess
@TylerH use the correct name for it, it's "psychopaths" :D
@TylerH yeah definitely sure thats the case
@Worf it's really not scary at all
btw, what do you (murican) guys think of youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8cGLIMtvg
people are much less likely to go into somewhere with a gun and bad intentions knowing everyone else has a gone than if they know no one has one
@Worf I think her music sucks
19:23
doesn't she look ridiculous?
haven't heard that song
me neither
I think she has one or two songs that are OK but overall I'm not a fan
@Worf don't most all pop people?
her "FourFiveSeconds" song is actually pretty good, vocally, but the melody falls a little flat
and ofc Kanye West tries to actually sing and reveals that he's terrible in that song
19:26
@ZachSaucier yeah but that's about a nation. if i were american id be offended. i'd be like "look at this whore wearing no bra that thinks to know what patriotism is"
hey, that's what freedom is all about
that's why we have people who can legally pee on our national flag, etc.
ok, i didn't say she's illegal, i said she looks pathetic
this is proper patriotic music youtube.com/watch?v=ye5BuYf8q4o :wisheshewasamericanjustforthemusic:
lol
I wouldn't say patriotic
well it's kinda a national anthem :D
19:49
how do I SQL?
@Worf in Alabama maybe :-P
@crypticツ srs?
@crypticツ did you catfight with your friend eventually
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Q: "Question Badge" suggestion: Philanthropist

blaSo I've decided to start a personal SO version of "The Giving Pledge", i.e. 90% of my rep is going back to the contributors , 2-3K rep is enough for me. Now obviously I'll contribute to the subset of questions that I could personally appreciate that belong to my skill set tags. So I'm going to g...

@MadaraUchiha Same idea about rewarding good questions as you, sorta
@Worf she's acting like nothing ever happened =o\ So problem still persists, but she seems to want to just ignore it.
but what happened
20:05
How can I make a node contain itself?
3
in the DOM
parenting.stackexchange.com/a/19720/7753 man, some of this stuff in this answer
"to my surprise, boys !== girls"
duhhh
@Worf she keeps not doing things she should be doing for herself to get herself back on her feet, and for our organization so I end up doing it because I don't want either to fail, and when I try to get her to you know take responsibility she crumbles and goes on temper tantrum about how she doesn't know how to do anything and she always fails, etc. When she doesn't even make the minimum attempt to do so, so of course she will fail.
@StevensHaen i am afraid that would be like:
Then says I stress her out because I am always harrassing her to do things. When I am trying to shape her into someone who is not lazy and makes bullshit excuses to not do things. I'm done pushing her to better herself.
@Worf would you elaborate , please? Also, why do they describe the DOM tree as a recursive structure?
20:12
@StevensHaen first you watch futurama, then you use a futurama avatar
dom can't be recursive
depth is always finite
@crypticツ organization?
a node containing itself would be a paradox
the internet would probably implode
@TylerH How dare a girl like pink?
@Worf we run essentially a group for her kid and others kids of friends, where we take them on outings and basically get them outdoors either to go for hikes, theme parks, etc.
You would think she would make an effort for both since her child would be effected.
@BoltClock Right?!
That's like humans liking ponies
@crypticツ i'm wondering how did a programmer and it security expert become a babysitter
#boom
wtf? i thought you hated kids
20:19
@Worf they are 5+, I just mainly hate smaller kids, becayse they poop, pee, and cry all the time.
5 is still an underdeveloped not worthy of my attention human
Hi all! Has anyone can propose any nice looking CSS/HTML theme/styling for <UL>, <LI> tags?
science says your brain is not mature until age 25
@crypticツ exactly
@Sippy you around?
20:22
@Worf been shitting and pissing myself until I turned 25. Thank God for science!
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sweet, that means this year I finally stop doing that
for a moment ive forgot that everything is about poop for you :D thanks for the visual as usual +1
Watching Rainbow Dash poop herself is probably quite the show.
@Worf because you are always in a more respectable state than the chick in that picture :P
@MadaraUchiha She very nearly does in the latest episode
20:33
@ZachSaucier wat. when i wear no pants i don't sing the national anthem. not always at least
Right....
my point is that it's just a picture - a frame of a life of one person in a nation
it's pretentious
with the pictures of luther king - a moment later no bra with nips clearly on sight. it's really bad taste
@TylerH sup?
@Sippy I rewrote most of that dropdownlist thing :-D
Now I just need to learn how to link the dropdownlists to the gridview so that using the DDLs sorts the gridview
20:48
what's the difference between a node and an element?
An element node is a specific type of node
@TylerH Is it still web forms?
I changed some styling on my blog and like it a lot better now. zachsaucier.com/blog Feedback welcome, as always
body>div { border-bottom: 1px solid #bfbfbf; } <- this under the blue bar is ugly :P
I have mixed feelings on that
20:56
actually id remove even the second border just behind that
ah, thought that's what you were referencing
ya I'll def remove the first
it's two borders
i'd remove them both
have mixed feelings on the second
20:58
you shouldn't
burn it with jet fuel
lol
@Sippy yes -_-
@ZachSaucier yay blueeee \o/
gist.github.com/KyraD/2a581bca74329416ff93 anyone know how to do this? I can't SQL =o(
21:05
@crypticツ insert into foo(foo.a, foo.b) select baz.y, baz.z from baz where baz.x = ''
@ZachSaucier Need to change .horiz::before { left } to -419px or -420px for Firefox, it leaves a gap when the value is set to `-421px.
number of selected field by the select on the right must match the number of elements in the parentheses after foo
still a small gap at -420px; -419px is perfect
@TylerH I'm fixing that now
dunno how those got messed up...
must have been some subtle change I made last night
21:08
flag it!
@Worf flagged for abusive behavior :-D
@Worf but where do I specify the values for the insert? Only one value comes from the other table, the rest are supplied to the query. This looks like it just does a copy of selected data from one table to another.
INSERT intome(intofield1, intofield2) SELECT 'foo' AS iwillgointo1, 'baz' AS iwillgointo2
got it?
INSERT intome(intofield1, intofield2, intofield3) SELECT 'foo' AS iwillgointo1, 'baz' AS iwillgointo2, booo.somefield AS iwillgointo3 FROM booo
oooooooh
so like
INSERT intome(intofield1, intofield2, intofield3) SELECT :param1 AS iwillgointo1, :param2 AS iwillgointo2, booo.somefield AS iwillgointo3 FROM booo
(you don't need the ASs btw, they just need to have the correct order)
INSERT INTO intome(intofield1, intofield2, intofield3) SELECT :param1, :param2, booo.somefield FROM booo
sorry it's not INSERT :P it's INSERT INTO
21:27
sweet got it, thanks!
yw
can someone explain what next if does in ruby please
@lovetolearn what next does?
"next if"
I think it will skip to the next iteration in a loop if the condition is met. It's a combination of an if() and continue.
I don't know Ruby so don't trust me.
@TylerH Nab :D
PHP > Webforms
21:50
man window.location.reload(); repaints the page in one of the shittiest ways ever
When I reload via window.location.reload the click box for elements go down the amount i was previously scrolled
@Kitler Sounds like a horrible bug
Other browsers?
Trying it out
damn it need to remove a cookie from dev console can't get to it on ff -.-
22:14
chrome is being a retarx
22:34
@Kitler Chrome continually gets worse and worse with every passing build lately.
Dunno WTF is up with them.
I spent an hour googling shit without finding anything
my head hurts
I m off
@Kitler
window.location.reload(true);
?
Same
gn :P
@MadaraUchiha dafuq?
23:48
yessssss
paid mods are being scrapped
the people have won \o/
@TylerH I don't see how SO would consider that a bad thing; less spending for the site...
@Gemtastic what?
I'm not talking about moderators
mods as in mods for games
Steam recently unveiled a system for games (starting with Skyrim) where modders could charge money for mods they uploaded
there was huge outrage from the community and people started a petition, etc.
I thought it was related to some drama going on among the mods here on SO
23:51
today they agreed to scrap it. At least, Bethesda scrapped it, Steam might push on with other games
the biggest outrage I think was that the modders only got 25% of the profits
Steam got 30% and Bethesda got 45%
why is it so bad that modders can charge for their mods?
Ah
Well, in that case it's messed up.
I'd rather have my mods free than letting them rake in the money
Well, a lot of people were complaining that it goes against the entire ethos of modding, and that games would release even buggier games and just let modders fix it, and then rake in profits from that
and when you pay for a mod you start to expect support of there are problems, etc.
then there's the whole issue of reusing other peoples work in your mod and charging for it, etc.
haha we were having this discussion in the JS room
technically mods are owned by Bethesda because they're derivative works of Skyrim, but they don't claim that (but they could at any time) and so modders pseudo own the mods they make, and can make takedown requests if someone uses their mod without permission, but it's messy
Im glad they ditched the paywall.
Make an easy donation system
23:55
The issue IMO lies entirely with the companies taking part of the profit. Modders charging for their mods is not a bad thing to me, provided they actually do provide some support.
like, if someone makes a dragon mesh, and you make new textures for that dragon mesh, can you charge for your mod? Does the dragon mesh creator get a cut? etc. it's complicated
Donations probably is the best system after all
I agree donations would be appreciated
Donations work really well for swedish modders because there's no tax on donations 8D
@Gemtastic I don't disagree with that.

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