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I think I'm getting it
I don't tend to do things in steps I just start coding
ends up getting messy
 
@Mario why do I get the feeling this is a bag of dicks
 
it's nsfw for the first part then gets hilarious
 
Patsy loves his sandwiches
whoever that guy is anyways
 
does anyone here know Macs and iCloud pretty well?
 
8:05 PM
I know not to store my nude selfies on it
 
A supervisor logged into the App Store from my user account on the Mac Pro work station and now I have access to all his bookmarks and reminders and notes and stuff
apparently in Yosemite the App Store is the portal to iCloud
 
lol
 
his list of games to buy is pretty extensive though
 
add a reminder
> Reminder: Give Tyler H a raise.
 
lol
unfortunately he's not that supervisor
that's HR and I think that's a 9 month process -_-
big companies suck
 
8:07 PM
ouch
yea I remember working for one
 
wait lemme look it up
on the site I threw together for them
yeah all pay rate changes happen in november
if I ask in the first six months of the year then it's nov. of the same year
if I ask in the second six months then it's nov. of the next year
which really sucks if you forget and ask on July 1st
"Yeah okay you can get a raise in 16 months"
 
I make sure in every position I take that a salary review is done every 6mo
it doesn't always work out (they don't always agree to it) but I do insist on it
at least for the first year
 
i've got a raise after first month
 
how often are you in positions for periods of over a year?
 
been at my current company for 4 years
ish
but before that, often.
 
8:11 PM
heh you can get stuck at a position forever
better switch company
 
wait, are we talking position or compensation ?
 
@BasementKeyboardHero how does that shit (typographical errors) get upvotes?
 
I'm the only programmer at my company full time, so I'm VP of Development (unofficially)
there isn't much 'position' to move up to
 
SO rep whores and new users
 
@rlemon I'm talking good work -> higher pay
 
8:13 PM
yea I get pay raises at least once a year
 
as for me, I'm still learning, so I'll stay so long as they keep paying me :-) I do a lot of non programming work actually for a "web development" position, but it's okay because it is my first job out of college
 
when I was first hired I demanded my salary be reviewed after the first 6mo, to adjust for my actual skills vs what my starting salary was
 
than you're fine as long as you enjoy doing your job
our company has a policy that if you feel unsatisfied you can come up and demand a raise
or whatever bothers you
but you have to speak up
they won't
 
last time I got a raise no one told me :?
it just showed up on my pay
 
haha :D
 
8:14 PM
I had to re-adjust my taxes
I'm glad I noticed
bumped me to a new bracket
 
I forced the hand of the last company i worked for for a raise, when they gave it to me I got a better offer and left them
 
@rlemon that sucks :-P
it's better to be at the top of a lower bracket than the bottom of a higher bracket
 
nahh I just contribute more to RSP's and bring it back down
which is why it is important to know :)
 
I've read stories about people who left jobs because they were forced to take a salary that was like $10 over the bracket amount
and the difference in tax rate was like an extra 9%
 
@rlemon isn't self employment in canada the best option for mid-earnings?
 
8:16 PM
you can write more off on taxes. but if you are employed by someone else and you're smart with your money you can earn just as much for less work
 
I've heard you get a lot of taxes cut down
 
but you have to know exactly how to allocate your earnings
 
mhm
 
no the taxes are all the same.
you just are self-employed so can write off more
 
ah
 
8:17 PM
(like gas and internet and shit)
 
than it's just talks
@rlemon yeah we can do that here too
only for suckier money probably
 
well the other thing is contract workers usually get paid pretty well.
 
hah - contract workers here don't get paid
if you work on a contract you are screwed at the end of the pay priority chain
 
here: it is like freelance vs salary
 
first workers get paid - than external company partners and if money is left the contractors get some
 
8:19 PM
freelance I ask for like double my hourly pay
 
not to mention you pay like 40% tax
this is all due to a lot of money washing
 
@easwee laundering x.x
 
I wonder who pays more tax, you or me
Ontario pays a crapload of taxes
 
probably me lol
 
like... a crapload
 
8:19 PM
most probably you
oh wait EU
 
slovenia is the worst
 
when my money is done and spent > 50% of it is in taxes
 
@easwee you guys are part of the EU ?
 
I think I actually get like 46% or something
 
every successful slovenian business has HQs abroad
@BasementKeyboardHero yeah - since 2000
it's crap
 
8:20 PM
60% tax or some shit
 
prices raised - payment stayed almost same
 
come to leb, the pay is shit but so are the taxes :D
 
ahahaha
well - at least we have fresh air
 
I want realestate to go down here
that shit is insane right now
cheapest house I can find is $300k+
 
that is indeed insane
 
8:21 PM
size?
 
small :P ha
'starter home' size
 
cuz for 200k you get a decent house here
 
you could get a cheap house for let's say 100m2 for around 70-80k € here
 
In my neighborhood that is
 
on the other hand - a flat in the capital of 50m2 will cost you atleast 100k in a cheap area
 
8:23 PM
50m2 is so fucking tiny
it's not even a studio
 
my flat is 50m2
and I already hate it when I have to clean
 
2 rooms + kitchen + glass balcony
 
and if you are on that site looking in my city for houses (detached) 2-3 bedroom 2 bath.. 320+
sucks
 
50sqm is the size of my room :P
 
8:24 PM
a few years ago that wasn't the case at all
 
@rlemon come to the United States
 
NOT to mention that isn't even in my city
 
our tax brackets are much better
 
@TylerH I know. real-estate is much cheaper as well
 
and if you stay north of the lake eerie you can probably still get access to poutine
 
8:25 PM
Lokes wife is a real-estate agent and I browsed her site
 
@rlemon that's a nice house though
 
I shouldn't have :(
 
@BasementKeyboardHero pft - still you rent I own :D
 
@BasementKeyboardHero it's "okay"
 
@easwee I moved back with the parents no more rent :P
 
8:25 PM
@rlemon oh yeah real estate in non urban areas is suuuuper cheap
New England and Cali are ridiculous
 
@BasementKeyboardHero go cry in a corner
:P
 
but even near Atlanta prices are pretty low
 
@easwee my parents are chill
 
couple years ago I could have gotten this: remax.ca/on/kitchener-real-estate/… for 300k and this is the type of house I would like
 
well so are mine - but still would ge ton my nerves after a week
 
8:26 PM
yeah we don't interact that much
+ gf is here all the time, practically lives here
 
my .35 acres property with a nice house would sell for like $200k but in parts of California it would be over $1 million
 
ha! if I was going in on this with the GF I could afford a hell of a lot more
this is just me saving / paying
 
don't wanna co-own ?
 
long story I don't really wanna get into right now, but short answer, yes we don't want to co-own
 
@rlemon that's a nice house
 
8:28 PM
yeah i feel ya
 
looks pretty good dressed up
love that back yard
 
yea it's not quite a cookie cutter home
has some character, but is still quite modern build
that is exactly what I'm looking for
BUT... for $100K cheaper
 
how many years does it take to pay off a mortgage for such a house
 
depends on your rates and payments
you set up a long or short term
 
go for it so i can come visit x.x
 
8:31 PM
lol
well hopefully I will be ready to buy in the spring
and hopefully the house market will be there
 
think of the brolounge in that basement
 
(I have the $$ to buy now, but I wanna put more down so I have lower interest rates)
so by spring, w/e I have is what I put down
 
natives taking their land back nice :D
 
haha
 
screw the white man :D
 
8:33 PM
saving money is like going to the gym. it's very very hard to get started, but once you see the results start to add up you're motivated to do it more and more
 
heey :S
 
oh btw i ll be in the states around june
 
saving money sux
 
:( fuck me running I forgot to swap my batteries this morning
 
there's always something unexpected you need to pay
 
8:33 PM
my ecig just died
 
that's when my re-entry permit expires
wonder if you need a canadian visa if you have an american visa
 
@easwee i made a satellite, thought it was good because i killed 4pp at first battle
but then i got destroyed 10 times lol
 
@Mario and than got raped 10x
 
haha as expected
 
8:35 PM
exactly
 
it always happens to me too
 
your satellite needs to be able to move
what guns you got on it
 
dunno if you get a false hope bonus or what
btw those floating snipers are only good in low tiers
in T9 it's 1 hit KO
sometimes I even shoot at random and get some down
must be the driver hit
 
make a blimp
:P
 
you need a shitload of cpu for that
@BasementKeyboardHero probably yes
 
8:40 PM
how do you guys feel about the 'bootstrap responsive grid' shit
col-xs-9 col-sm-8 col-md-9
^ this
 
don't use it
 
yeah
 
I am using it :P
 
so far the best approach I've seen is to use sass mixins inside your custom classes to define the grid
 
makes 'design' easier for us non designers
I just wanted to know how everyone felt about it
 
8:43 PM
well - it's fast to build a mobile ready prototype
 
<div class="container-fluid main">
    <div class="row">
        <div class="col-xs-12 col-sm-6 charts">
            <div class="row half">
                <div class="col-xs-9 col-sm-8 col-md-9 chart">charts</div>
                <div class="col-xs-3 col-sm-4 col-md-3 values">
                    <div class="moisture">12.3</div>
                    <div class="temperature">45.6</div>
                </div>
            </div>
I just HATE the look of it :P
but using it is easy
 
but is ugly to look at
we completely dropped bootstrap
first we used the grid only
now even that is useless
 
I'm moving to bootstrap from something more sensible
 
weird
:P
 
I've determined because I'm a lone dev I need to put my pride aside and use the best RAD tools I can find
 
8:44 PM
I meant i don't use it
 
bootstrap is not RAD - just popular because of the hype
I found out that my work doubles with bootstrap as soon as the project is graphically more intensive
I found out that my work doubles with bootstrap as soon as the project is graphically more intensive
 
@easwee technically speaking all frameworks are a RAD *tool
 
lol did it just make a double post? or do I only see that?
 
weird chat
 
8:46 PM
@easwee I feel the same ways about IDEs, they end up getting in my way. but they are a RAD tool by nature
there is no argument about that
I just don't find them useful
 
yeah ok if you phrase it like that
 
just like I also consider all abstractions RAD tools
so jQuery et al
 
it's still faster to copy paste a file in windows environment than doing it from the cmd
 
depends on the CLI you're in
cp a b
pretty fast
 
using gitbash ?
 
8:48 PM
it's not faster to copy paste 100 files that are in a folder of 10000 filest and you only need those who have "ads" characters in it
yeah well - you get my point
there's no 100% best tool
or maybe - there is!
 
regex in cp
ls -a *ads*
 
@BasementKeyboardHero yeah - faster than doing it by hand :)
 
yup
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weren't you on ubuntu btw
 
but draw @Mario in svg from code or from inkscape
:)
 
wat
 
8:53 PM
@BasementKeyboardHero will draw you
pose plz
 
@BasementKeyboardHero ok i'll take your help :P
let me sketchtoy
 
i m animating that logo x.x
I lost interest in animation a long time ago x.x
 
I can't see to make the numbers on the right look good on mobile
interested?
 

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