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14:00
jesus
in that case get her a dog
@Daniel I have two cats
the tank is covered with glass.
they watch it like Kitty TV
inside only cats?
yes, but I had fish with my two outdoor cats growing up
they didn't really care much for them (and the one was also a hunter)
nice - I have a feeling mine would knock it over or die trying
so, yesterday i spent all day trying to figure out why my computer was crashing.. culprit
14:01
interesting - will have to keep that in mind then
you realize that 1Gal === ~10lbs.
those little 30 gal tanks with everything in them weigh like 500lbs
@CarrieKendall What is that even
yeah, that's where the die trying comes into play lol
there is no way a cat could knock it over
mine have jumped on the tanks before
scares the fish, that is about it
@rlemon you must not have very big cats
14:02
@TylerH its a radiator
@TylerH one is like ~12 lbs
maybe we'll revisit the fish idea then. or buy a sturdy rabbit cage.
hard to tell because of the nasty jelly crust eh? :P
she is a fattie
14:04
blogcdn.com/www.coolage.in/media/2012/12/life-of-pi.jpg World Champion Fisk Tank Knocker-Over
@Daniel give the fish weapons to fight back
lol @TylerH - maybe just get some piranhas and let them fight it out?
I was thinking more like proximity sensors inside the tank that create an electric charge around the outside of the glass so that the cats get shocked
@TylerH dude you are cold.
buuuuuzzzzzz.
@Daniel I have a GSP tank (vicious puffer fish) - they ignore everything non-fishy smelling
they 'nip' me but it doesn't hurt. but they have the ability to punch a hole out of my finger
14:06
@TylerH sounds like the start of a chinese restaurant to me
@mikedidthis not a dangerous shock, just like a zap
like a huge static shock after walking across carpet ins ocks
my cat is deathly afraid of static shock.. rather hilarious to watch at times
interesting on the puffer fish, and I like the slight shock idea lol but not sure how that would hold up with water so close
water is actually not a gigantic death element around electricity like cartoons depict
static shock at a gas station is a bigger risk than static shock around a 30 gal tank of water
the shock scenario definitely seems like it'd be from a cartoon though, so was going with that
on a side note, didn't realize <a href = "#!" would prevent page jumps, neat
Yep - love that trick and seems to still work like a charm. I would name it something like "address" though just in case.
!!afk coffee
recaptcha is too hard now.. it took me like 5 tries on a password reset about a week ago.. i was raged
agreed, it's very frustrating
I wonder what the % of exits after a 2nd captcha fail is
14:22
especially for forms containing type=password with strict minimum rules..
yep - let's add in no JS validation as well, and field resets
I like the puzzle building captchas
i like simplicity.. name the item in the picture, solve simple math, word problems etc.. what kind of puzzles? link
you drag the correct puzzle piece to complete an image.
its about image recognition
those I would think are harder for bots to break
I like no captchas
14:25
but its a never ending cycle because if your site matters they'll send a real person to figure out what you're doing and then adapt the bot
@CarrieKendall - speaking of which, I was a little surprised to find no JS validation built into Bootstrap. It does have the .has-success etc classes, but nothing for actual validation.
@TylerH haha yeah I prefer none for sure
form validation*
Guys a bit rusty on my SQL, sqlfiddle.com/#!2/7a43d/3 (why is unique inside the inner select not accepted? )
@Daniel i think that wanted to stay neutral concerning validation
14:26
^ only one I could find that shows the puzzles I meant
i want to make a textarea that looks just like the iOS Notes app
i wonder if possible?
of course it's possible
maybe something to address in 4, it does "feel" like something that should be a bit more standard
@Loktar interesting, although a bit time consuming
@Bubbas - Just add a class to the textarea and have at it
14:28
@Loktar check this one areyouahuman.com/demo-playthru
ah that ones awesome as well
I like those just because I don't feel like a friggin code breaker trying to read distorted letters lol.
yeah, that one's probably my favorite
LOL yes
ha that is pretty neat
recaptcha - computer-generated dysgraphia
lol
the thing is if humans can read it youd think bots could be trained to
14:31
to be fair, it worked well for a long time
there's no silver bullet though.. all captcha will be beaten at some point
agreed, and the more roadblocks we put up - the smarter the bots get
we're inadvertently teaching them to get past our captchas
there is one silver bullet, bio metric authentication! :P
> Please submit a drop of blood to continue
> verifying identity
heh makes me think of Demolition man, when Wesley Snipes removes one of the guards eyes to get passed the door scan.
lmao that's exactly what I thought of too @Loktar
he was somewhat like a bot, at least the training part
14:37
@TylerH oh I mean in the future when we are all tracked
two step verification. webcam + mic. you have to make the expression they tell you and say the word
and any blood not tied to an individual will cause alarms to go off and the guards to be dispatched
"surprised + helmet"
lmao
@rlemon Kristen Stewart would never be able to log in p.twimg.com/AvBT4UaCAAERdb1.jpg:large
14:38
"stoned + whine"
sure she would ^
posted on April 28, 2014 by Chris Coyier

Interesting to see what the CSS sausagemakers consider failures of CSS. I think the box-sizing choice has probably caused the most confusion and extra code over the years. Thankfully it's fixable. Direct Link to Article — Permalink… Incomplete List of Mistakes in the Design of CSS is a post from CSS-Tricks

css sausagemakers? lol
hmm... what is it called when you first load a site (usually mobile) and it has the 'tutorial' modal?
I like z-order rather than z-index!
hmm I dont agree with border-radius should have been border-corner.
border-radius makes perfect sense
border-corner imo would imply you could set a different style of corner such as miter/rounded/jagged, ect.
14:44
border-corner-radius?
:-P
haha
also not sure about this one
> rgba() and hsla() should not exist, rgb() and hsl() should have gotten an optional fourth parameter instead (and the alpha value should have used the same format as R, G, and B or S and L).
border-top/left/bottom/right-radius would be nice
thats fairly common everywhere having (rgb, hsl) and (rgba,hsla) as separate color types
totally agree with z-order, and lol @ Table layout should be sane.
> Box-sizing should be border-box by default.
^ fucking yes man
why it isn't, insanity
14:46
it is in IE 6
:P
whitespace
now rap
raps
Interesting article on ants nautil.us/issue/12/feedback/ants-swarm-like-brains-think (also I made a CSS creation much like their logo :P )
how much I would give to be able to border-top-radius: 10px; instead of defining top-right-radius and top-left-radius...
@rlemon yeah that is a weird choice
they should def allow that
verbose css rule names are .. well .. the worst IMO
animation-timing-function
who the hell wants to write shit like this?
14:49
thats why I always try to find the shorthand methods
yea, same. but still.
F U CSS !important;
sudo F U CSS !important;
@rlemon I thought those existed
border-top does
not radius
you must specify a corner, there is no 'grouping' corners.
14:56
Oooh, so you want border-top-radius to affect both top corners.
yes
oh interesting I wasn't thinking that
That would be kinda cool
would cut down on the amount of overall code
and I don't think it would be too confusing to add
Though I have no idea what would happen if you defined all four of them.
14:58
^
@RyanKinal what I was thinking
@RyanKinal would be the same as "border-radius:"
so you would just have top and bottom?
@Loktar why not all four
    margin: auto;
    margin-top: 0;
    margin-left: 0;
    margin-bottom: 0;
^ margin-right: is the only auto now.
yeah but its a bit different
css already cascades nicely.
14:59
border-left-radius would affect the top and bottom
s/all four of them/all four of them with different values/
I guess the last rule would only apply
Ah, yeah. Probably true.
border-left-radius: 10px;
border-top-radius: 5px;
border-right-radius: 20px;
border radius is now (top,left,bottom,right): 5px 20px 20px 10px
> Table layout should be sane.
15:02
yeah idk seems like it would be a point of contention
I like that one
@RyanKinal lol I love ones that just call what they are doing crazy to begin with
@Loktar they already do so much shit like that tho. using margin as an example again
yeah but margin is intuitive
only because we've been using it for so long
15:03
it only affects the actual left/top/right/bottom
border radius top would affect left/right and top
margin: 5px;
margin: 10px 20px;
margin: 10px 20px 5px;
margin: 10px 20px 5px 15px;
^ without having done this for so long, this would confuse the fuck out of me
without doing many things in CSS for so long, it would confuse the fuck out of me.
@Loktar border-radius-top only affects the topmost borders ;)
@mikedidthis Truth
15:04
but also the left and right
but they are joining the top
corners share joining points
@SomeGuy Oh damn
If I had that 5 years ago, my job would have been a lot simpler.
@RyanKinal lol
from a geometry point of view I see it as a perfectly acceptable rule ;)
@rlemon I agree
15:06
I obviously disagree its a bad idea and you should be shamed.
I looked in the mirror this morning, my shame limit for the day has been reached.
;P
you play anymore second son?
I need to beat paper mario, but after that Ill probably get it
a bit but I was busy last night cleaning fish tanks :P
tonight I have one more tank to clean, then i'll play some more
dude dont forget to get mercenary kings
I also wanna make a cat toy.
15:08
its free, not sure for how long though
arduino + stepper motor + laser pointer === kitty workout while i'm at work.
haha
@rlemon Me too... except s/in the mirror/at the scale/
@RyanKinal I stopped stepping on that once I > 170lbs
heaviest i've ever been
( ~77kg for everyone else )
I hadn't looked it in a while. And I was like DAMN. EXERCISE, FUTURE RYAN!
15:10
does raising the beer to your mouth count?
also, I am off the beer for a bit. gonna try to drop 4-5 lbs.
No. No it doesn't.
white rum has 50 calories per shot.
^ lie, but there are way less
@ZachSaucier so are you going to get Saucier'd on your b-day?
Nah, not much of a drinker
15:12
@Lorenz Rick and Morty is so awesome!
Yesterday I went to RadioShack looking for a SATA cable
they had an entire section for arduino
but not a single SATA cable
@ZachSaucier so then I take it you don't play your music in the sun either?
@SomeGuy do you watch Regular Show?
Haven't heard of it
so I drove 75 minutes to Fry's
and ended up buying a new monitor
15:13
Ryan: WTF WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?
Time: *20 minutes pass*
Ryan: Oh. There's no query string. Dammit.
!!youtube midnight special the joker
@rlemon Not sure why you ask that. Song reference I am missing?
@RyanKinal Hahahaha
@SomeGuy if you get bored, worth a watch.
15:14
Hey, it's on Cartoon Network!
@SomeGuy I was seriously raging for a minute there.
Too bad the Indian variant of CN is shit :p
@mikedidthis You should check Rick and Morty out. It's a fun show
> Some people call me the space cowboy! Some call me the gangster of love. SOME PEOPLE CALL ME MAURICE!
love that song
@SomeGuy Shall do.
15:15
@TylerH song of my life s/music/code/
and s/maurice/slidepoop/
my gravestone will just be a slide. everyone will be so confused.
lol
I hate when websites use JavaScript in such a way that using MMB to open a link in a new tab results in an empty page
@TylerH agreed
that just happened to me last night on namecheap
@rlemon Except for those of us in the know.
And we happy few will poop on your gravestone
hah I used to go to that site
15:18
@RyanKinal it is all I ask.
we would get rid of so much computer hardware and I always wanted to buy some.
its sad how the gov wastes so much..
pallets of working laptops sitting in the rain...
I wonder where most of the stuff goes, because it does not go there, looks like just a very small % does
we had rooms filled with hundreds of unused pc's we would take them to DRMO (Defense Reutilization and Marketing Office), and then theyd get shipped to some magic place never to be seen again
So much awesome stuff on that site.
My favorite is "tools and chapstick" for $75
15:23
lol
@Loktar probably they go to garbage island
too bad the shipping is retarded, or was last I checked
isn't most of it local pickup?
yeah
most of the cars are in Alaska -_-
lame
and all their insides are destroyed
a lot of cop cars or something
you can buy any number of forklifts for about $200 though
pretty good deal
15:25
@mikedidthis try { boating() } catch ( cold ) { return home; } /* worst experience ever */
lol
you can even buy a 19th century lighthouse off the coast of Delaware
for like $25,000
1,000 sq ft
does it come complete with benders ass?
Great episode
if I were to buy a boat. it would be one like this: boatbuys.ca/en/motor-yachts/sea-ray/54-sundancer/1116564/…
I've been contemplating buying a buss and retrofitting it to a camper
"sedan"
I'd rather buy a mountain house
I plan on having money for both
^ decent article on MS hate specifically :P
Did you show MS biggest fan? I can't spell his name :(
15:32
@Loktar ~ Written by Abhishek Hingnikar
Does Abhishek like MS now?
who knows, it is a new week :P
I just like how the article calls out the anti trust stuff
@rlemon thank you :D
and makes an awesome point with chromeOS being bundled with Chrome, and how common it is today
15:32
@Loktar I think Apple is WAY worse than MS for that kinda shit
@rlemon yeah for sure
if anything, MS is the GGG of today
however, if ChromeOS was better....
i kind of see Microsoft as the adult that's able to live a fairly normal life with down syndrome
chromeos is too watered down for my liking
I also worry Google isn't being as active with it as they should
Ubuntu || Win7 for me (if I have a choice)
15:34
that's what i run at home
As far as Windows, I'll soon be running exclusively 8.1
yeah Ill get 8.1 in Nov with my new pc build
windows is a necessary evil.. we can complain about it, but you'll likely need it at some point so tl;dr deal with it
@Loktar ohh god I just read it. FoxPro... WTF man.
I almost forgot about that
MS is back under the buss
I never used foxpro
however I loved VB6
> you're pissed about IE6, about FoxPro, about Silverlight, heck, maybe VB6. Sure, I hear you. I'm pissed about DESQView and my Newton, and Snow Leopard not running on my PowerPC. At some point you let go, and you start again with fresh eyes.
whatever vb6 kicked assssszzzz
15:39
I didn't mind VB6
I learned to program on QBasic so .. BASIC always holds a special place for me
me neither, I actually did like it lol
but FoxPro was just the worst.
actually scratch that, I hate Perl much more than I hate any other languages I currently have been exposed to
ZAMAG
NEED SOMETHING FAST
AND CAN ONLY SHIP FROM USA OR ASIA
DAMN
Will a cheetah do?
!!afk street meat! yum yum
@rlemon - so did I (learned to program on QBasic) - and I also loved VB
that's where I really began understanding programming concepts, VB. QBasic was mainly learning how to make fireworks appear on screen, etc lol
@Purify is it a new caps lock button by any chance?
no :<
it's this
need it within 10 days :(
Birthday gift?
leaving gift.
15:49
Ah
may not see her for a year or so
:(
lol @ the plushie
Hi,
I have the following code but my controller function is not being called for users who don't have a role of "Admin". Can anyone explain where I am going wrong?
To clarify, for users where they are in the role "Admin" it works fine, for all others the controller function is not called.
Link to code: http://www.pastebin.com/Rd5RQcrV
Does that site not have next day shipping @Purify?
no :'(
15:50
@Purify :'(
i'm in germany
the sites in the US
@user2248441 Please do not post to several rooms at once
Looks like Toys R' Us has it in stores toysrus.com/buy/plush-vinyl/… if you can pick it up
Looks like copy pasta.
The room I was in had no responses..
15:51
posted on April 28, 2014

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Post a question on the main site?
Did you write it yourself or copy it from somewhere @user2248441 ?
Write what myself? The code? :S yea
@ZachSaucier its java / javascript, right?
15:52
it's ajax
The Javascript room was no help, thought someone here could.
ah didn't see the Germany part. maybe eBay has it (see link)
it's because of the way you ask
How should I ask?
@Daniel I looked. all 7-21 day shipping
:(
15:54
@Purify Is it you or her leaving?
her
figured. Get something else?
:/ that sucks
doooooooooooomed
mail it to someone in the US and have them ship it to you?
if you paypal the shipping costs, i'll do it
15:56
what's the fastest you could send something to germany?
xD
what city
stuttgart
Man, she must be really worth it :D
apparently can get it delivered in the US within 2 days
@mikedidthis she's pretty much my best friend.
anything to please the ladies
15:57
yeah, we're not like that.
:p
Friendzoned?
ups has 1-3, 2-5, etc
I friendzoned her.
:p
@Purify that is the nicest thing you have ever said.
I thought it was for your daughter lol - now I don't care
15:58
how much is 1-3 @CarrieKendall?
really? @mikedidthis
@Purify yeah.
@Purify you can calculate it: wwwapps.ups.com/ctc/request?loc=en_US i'm in tuscaloosa, AL USA
it is likely going to be $80 USD +

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