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18:05
It's 42 degrees and raining right now... what happened to spring?!
I'm happy for the rain, allergies have been killing me this week
first time in forever
The low temperatures feel good IMO
either one would be fine on its own
but together, and the howling winds... ugh
yeah wind is pretty crazy. @TylerH on east coast? GA here
Zach and I are also in Georgia
18:13
nice!
not nice today :-P
roswell here, well right now. live in woodstock
lol true
@Daniel I'll be in Woodstock for the summer
@Daniel Age?
nice @ZachSaucier - I love it there
Approximate is fine
18:14
30, turning 31 in a week
cool, cool
lol 30 and 357 days to be exact
have a family then?
yep, wife and 2 year old girl (well, 2 in July)
July \o/
18:16
you?
Sweet! Good on ya
yeah, definitely the highlight of my life now - and why I work so many hours lol
haha, I see
either of you Braves fans? if so - last night was a pretty crazy game lol
tell me about it
You've seen the clip of the Phillies fans' faces during Uggla's grand slam, I hope?
18:20
Yay GA chat \o/
@TylerH Yes
deadspin.com/… in case anyone hasn't... this time in ultra slow mo
lol yep @tylerh, love it. also saw where the National's Wikipedia page was changed to show Owner: Atlanta Braves
video was hilarious, love the expressions there
hahahaha
god I hope we do well this year
yeah, I think we will - especially if Uggla and BJ Upton do even 'okay'
@TylerH We'll do as always - do well, get into playoffs, fail
18:23
nice echo of my link above, Zach :-P
:P was watching
lol yeah, sounds about right - it's an Atlanta tradition
man that clip never gets old
woulda been perfect if he hit the grand slam right to them
they wouldn't have made as good of faces though
true
18:29
lol yeah, saw that coming when I was watching it Live, so glad they kept the camera on them
Anybody good with radio check boxes?
sorry radio boxes
radio buttons?
yep
I go coo coo for them ;)
They've dat Apple feel
<input type="radio"> 4Lyfe
Yes radio buttons... I have been trying to get them to add up but the JSFiddle code just will not work for me.
18:33
V
link
and what do you mean add up?
I have 3 values that need to multiply together after they are chosen.
declare the values as integers and MATH them together using JS?
we need the jsfiddle please
18:37
what doesn't work? Seems to add 10 each time for me
On that page you are absolutely correct, However, when I add that a html on my computer it will not work.
are you loading jQuery on your computer?
^ that
$(function() {

});
If you want it to multiply (like you said), not add: jsfiddle.net/Zeaklous/AMLHq/415 handles the score = 1 case
jQuery?
5
18:39
lol
Amazing!
It is always the small stuff ain't it....
jQuery isn't small by any means.
The code, that you copy / pasted, uses jQuery.
I guess I need to look for jQuery
You do that, I am going to look for Molly.
18:41
Does it matter which version?
You should get the latest version, if that's what you're asking
@TylerH so this is not javascript? When I make an html page using this will it still run on any computer?
@mikedidthis I can't seem to find Molly. Do you know where I can find Molly? She makes my life happier
@PaulSkinner jQuery is a javascript library that makes it easier to use
@ZachSaucier Frankfurt redlight district;)
@ZachSaucier Not yet, but when I do...
18:46
@PaulSkinner Just use this jsfiddle.net/Zeaklous/AMLHq/416
it's a pure javascript version
@PaulSkinner Think of it like this. jQuery is to JavaScript what the Assembly Line is to manufacturing.
not a perfect example
@TylerH i don't quite understand that, explain?
It's a way of organizing your manufacturing capabilities so that you can, in theory, manufacture faster (of course there are better and worse ways of organizing your capabilities)
18:49
it's just an API
assembly lines are specialized for their types of manufacturing (cars, shoes, etc), just as various libraries are specialized for what you're trying to cide
It is an API, but I agree with the assembly line example
I'm php/mysql/etc at heart though, so there's that lol
My workflow because my desk is too small for two monitors i.imgur.com/tAdfL3q.jpg
@ZachSaucier is that some 90s workspace? :P
Have to stay focused, I already waste too much time. Having this chat open does enough of that
18:55
I'd recommend a bigger desk lol
I'm still angling for a stand up desk at my work
Now I am further lost than before. I went to the website thinking I was going to download a program but all that downloaded was a .js am I missing something?
@PaulSkinner can I ask what you understand a webpage to be made up of?
it is definitely not a program. .js would be one file
lol @mikedidthis
Please uninstall SO
@PaulSkinner jQuery.js is a JavaScript library file that reorganizes vanilla (read: ordinary) JavaScript so that you can use fewer characters to declare variables and call variables etc.
18:57
@Daniel no I wasn't meaning to poke fun. I am trying to find out his skill set. Its clear he has knowledge.
I am using notepad to build an html then I am using visual studio to add a css or I can use dreamweaver I am not sure I understand the question
gotcha, wording was a little funny lol, sry about that
@Daniel its ok, I am British.
ah, that explains it! :)
@mikedidthis I saw nothing wrong with your word choice
18:59
@Zach other than ending his phrase with a preposition :-P
@mikedidthis I am not the best at making websites I am just looking for a little direction because I am hitting dirt and can't get up. This one little thing I am trying to do just will not work.
@PaulSkinner I urge you to learn about jQuery and its relation to javascript, but in case you missed it before I posted a link to a non-jQuery version of your code that you can put into any <script> </script> on your page and should work
@TylerH I suppose my English is more British than most...
I spell it like colour half of the time and have to change. Same with other words
@PaulSkinner we've all been there before - keep at it and you'll get it. The overall concept can be confusing at first.
@ZachSaucier AFAIK, the preposition rule crosses the pond as well. Lots of Americans seem to use British versions on occasion, though: burnt is practically more proper here now than burned.
So using the jQuery would you still use <script></script> or would you use something else?
19:02
Probably because of the recent obsession with pop culture ending phrases that should end with ed into phrases that end with t: Turnt up
yes, <script></script> is correct
@PaulSkinner >"jQuery is a library written in JavaScript. jQuery is nothing more than javascript inside it. jQuery has it's own syntax to do various stuff like playing with the DOM. jQuery is a wrapper of JavaScript language with a more intuitive syntax which permits us to do and perform complex tasks in a quicker, more cross-browser way. Jquery, a wrapper of JavaScript methods, supplies you with functionality independent of browser platform wrapping all the complexity.

>jQuery is one of the other JavaScript Frameworks (Motools, Dojo, Prototype e.t.c). You can think of these frameworks as
how do I indent that? ^^
the quote function? Use >
@PaulSkinner that's totally cool. I just wanted to find out your understanding / level.
19:03
I thought I knew more than what I did that is for sure.
Programming is sneaky like that
@TylerH What's wrong about my indent syntax?
@PaulSkinner I go through that on a yearly basis :)
@PaulSkinner so in c# I presume you have helper libraries? jQuery is one of them, that helps writing javascript.
@Zach I don't know very well how the quote syntax works but I think you have to start with the >
19:05
@ZachSaucier trailing space i think
I am trying to get jQuery but not sure how to.
> <-- it was then that the space was needed
kk, thanks Carrie (:
:)
@mikedidthis wuts c hashtag?
19:06
lol
is that sum trending tweet er wut?
It's the future of hashtags, called the hashtail
@CarrieKendall eat a dick.
!!ohyou
@ZachSaucier That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
19:07
dang it
lol
Zach has been blacklisted!
@mikedidthis how long have you been a dick salesman?
aren't all men dick salesmen of some sort?
4
too true
essentially
limited time offer: herpes free!
that was mike's sale pitch.. offer no longer valid
late congrats on your two month anniversary
Thank you sir.
@CarrieKendall do you only lurk in this room?
i am usually in room 11, but i got burnt ( ;] ) out with them complaing and referring to the chatroom pact every 3 seconds so i haven't been in there as much
i lurk bicycles.se and chat too
-_-
You Brit!
chatroom pact?
19:17
@CarrieKendall cool
are you turning into @rlemon? editnerd
Nope. I just lack the minerals.
ouch
hah, fair enough, bicycles/ists are pretty awesome, :P
I call myself awesome
19:19
you must own a bike
it was more of a reference to point out how silly it is to call oneself awesome
Do you guys know things about ssl/https? I am thinking about some things and wanted to ask some questions, which are not worth a real question.
@ZachSaucier it was a fair response to @mike's failed attempt to find something to say about bicycles. see his edit ;]
19:22
@CarrieKendall leave me alone woman.....
As far as i understood i create my own key pair and a certificate which contains my public key. This certificate is then signed by some CA. My question is now if i can sign a new certificate with my pk and then send the certificate chain to the client in https?
or would i need to let the CA sign the 'last' certificate?
Sadly no idea, its ways over my head. If no one in here can help, the JS room may be helpful if you word it correctly.
JS?
as in javascript?
19:24
This is more related to https but there is no seperate room for that..
isn't there a separate webmaster part of stack exchange?
js room has people more geared toward what you're doing
hmm that sounds good
i will head over to stackexchange then :) Thanks for the help
19:25
@mikedidthis would you have anymore tips to get this POS to work? I am ready to start throwing shit out the window
@mikedidthis why'd you ask?
there you go @NickRussler - not sure about the chatrooms for it but may be more helpful in general
@PaulSkinner just use @ZachSaucier solution. No jQuery required.
39 mins ago, by Zach Saucier
@PaulSkinner Just use this http://jsfiddle.net/Zeaklous/AMLHq/416/
@CarrieKendall I was just curious. You pop up pleasantly, I wasn't sure if it was due to work or lurking / spreading your wisdom in other rooms.
19:28
dem compliments
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Q: jQuery .on() method doesn't work on a block added with JS after DOM ready

A1exandrHi I have a page which has blockOfchars that may be deleted with .formControl-but.butRem. Same block may be added with .formControl-but.butAdd which also includes .formControl-but.butRem. Blocks which are preloaded with the page at the beginning deletes without problems, but blocks added with JS ...

For giggles.
i approved on the sole basis of the comment
It got another one! What
19:37
hah, anon
"Zach Saucier has approved 120 edit suggestions and rejected 110 edit suggestions" lol
!!afk learning the jquery language
@CarrieKendall What's that?
@CarrieKendall come back with tales of your new found wisdom.
Anonymous edit approval... just what we need
then SO will work just like Congress
20:00
Bootstrap 3 Question: What's the best way to use the class 'right' only for non-mobile (lg, etc.)?
Thanks for all your help. I wish I could have gotten that damn thing to work. Good night
night @PaulSkinner and good luck. don't give up hope!
@PaulSkinner You just have to use my code!!!
@TylerH That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: t
20:03
t
better?
@Daniel I'm no pro, ask @CarrieKendall for bootstrap, but I know you can if you change the CSS
right @ZachSaucier - solution I'm using now is my own class that adds float: right, and then instantiating it at the min-width where needed. @CarrieKendall probably knows of a better way, her answers intimidate me though lol
that's how I'd do it
good to know - it may be the most viable option - I'm pretty new to bootstrap 3 and mobile-first thinking though, so am trying to setup things as correctly as possible
I think that is the only way to do it I would imagine.
20:06
glad to know I'm not a total bootstrap baddie then
@Daniel i'm a firm believer in letting a tool do its job :) it seems you're doing a lot of structuring without using bootstrap's grid which just means you're writing code that's already been written
Or just listen to @CarrieKendall :D
very possible - this is for a text wrap somewhat though, so not sure how that fits into the grid system
yeah, i wouldn't be sure until i saw an example
isn't that such a nice way of asking
I've consulted my magic 8 ball and the answer you are looking for is yes
20:14
@CarrieKendall O: Impressive use of courtesy
> I'm currently learning C# and I was given an assignment to edit a code written in C# with the use of MVC.
@ZachSaucier do you usually approve or reject edit suggestions that only add inline code formatting?
approve
readability is so very nice
well, given it's a significant improvement
if it changes the indention from 2 to 4 space tabs or only fixes a small error and leave a lot of errors I reject (or improve and mark it as not useful)
i will usually improve and reject if i have time
i improved nearly all of my first reviews until i realized that absolute crap storm of edits that IS the edit review queue
yeah
it's depressing
hence why all edits are not approved
20:40
i do CV and SE daily
1778 close votes reviews
658 suggested edits
why so many close votes on SO?
the queue piled up
because there are so many bad questions
20:42
13.8K vs 1 or 2 seems a bit unbalanced
also with time there's a bigger chance for a repeated question
12.8k is not full queue
it's plsit now
plsit?
had around 115k fully a month or two back
wow
20:43
made it smaller so it seems more conqeurable
before the metannihilation
over 15k were done in a week during big push to empty it
it is split in 5 parts now
first 4 close votes
questions
than 3
and so on
4 close votes questions were wiped a month ago
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Q: Let's burn down the close queue!

Shog9 Stage 2 completed: The initial phase of the burndown was completed on 2014-03-03 10:48:49; the second phase completed on 2014-03-08 at 19:41. Detailed statistics on how these played out can be found on Phase 1 results and Phase 2 results. There remains much work to be done! You can find r...

that's the girl flame thrower I was looking for last week.... couldn't find the question
oh yeah - it was added in because of gender equality
must say that post is a good sales text :D
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Q: View count from when it was last active

laggingreflexWouldn't it be nice if view count would show you the number of views a question generated from the last time it was active? Some questions get active again, sometimes 3 years later and they've already gotten 1050 views. So for whomever users concerned that the question was activated again, a fres...

would be interesting
20:53
for what purpose?
From a UX experience it'd not be worth it
would be interesting for me :)
to see which questions get popular again after some time
in that case I'd like a graph for each question showing views over time
published google analytics style
yeah xD
how many views over time, with an overlay of when the answers were given and also when any votes were applied
would be cool
20:58

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