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13:00
@easwee divitis.
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because you haven't seen drupal, or oscommerce
or magento.
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oscommerce jesus ahah worst software ever made
drupal I've seen - same thing as joomla
buggy as hell
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hi
13:08
Sup!
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anyone can help me
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Maybe he was dictating
rendering
5 mins / frame, so boring
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13:10
question denied areas.
@MustafaOzturk qué?
@CarrieKendall o/
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Can i ask you something ?
If you have a question, ask it. Don't ask if you can ask it.
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13:15
I'm coming here for the first time do not know the rules.
why the heck do touch devices have that stupid bounce when you scroll to the end of page...
google has saved my search of jquery validaet because i've typed it wrong so much
@easwee isn't that the browsers fault?
@MustafaOzturk top right of your screen.
@easwee you can turn that off I'm pretty sure. I know I've seen multiple SO questions on it
@mikedidthis Don't know who's fault is - certainly the one who implemented it should be fired wherever he works.
@TylerH That's what I'm trying to do now - and it's far far from simple.
13:16
@easwee I think its an appley kind of thing.
WP8 same thing
that's going to be an OS thing
but I'm mad now - not going home until I sort it out
feel like ranting
such a useless feature to have on touch devices
@CarrieKendall just clear your cache / history
@DarkAshelin doesn't work if you are logged in, Google results are still returned on previous.
^
its okay, i can clear it, i just think its funny
it renders the right results because google's search algorithm is incredibly good
i actually like that it doesn't wipe search history on cache clearing
and it retains history/search info by device
@TylerH that overscroll solved it for iOS - thx - now searching mdn for a ie on wp8 solution
@easwee is all your content visible or do you need to be able to scroll
13:31
@Loktar found them ^^
@TylerH easwee.alpha.av-studio.net if you check that on phone you will see the issue - fixed now on iOS - still have problem on WP8
well I can't since I don't have a Windows Phone :-P
:D no problem - will sort it out sooner or later
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youtube 3:36 of unskippable adv
just close tab
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13:37
I gave up on youtube after seeing a godaddy issue
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just saying @easwee hope a competitor will kick google's ass
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yahoo seems want to do it
if you tell me there's 3+ minutes of unskippable advertisements on a video I'm not going to click the link to watch it, @Wes :-P
@Wes Me too - youtube get's worse every day that goes by
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13:39
lol
the only way I could see Yahoo beating Google/YouTube is if they bought Vimeo and repurposed it/sank hundreds of millions into it
vimeo is too artistic for the masses IMO
oh no please don't make vimeo into another vlog site -
vlogs ruined youtub e
I agree
I think vimeo has too many professionals to be a youtube.
13:42
also, they really monitor their content
vimeo has too many rules on what not to upload atm
yeah - thank god they have them
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@TylerH youtube is so shit that is not that tough beating it imo
filters so much crap
@Wes well the issue I think is exposure and user adoption
13:42
@Wes Yeah, I don't think so
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of course not everybody can do it, only big companies... fb / yahoo / ms
YouTube is so ingrained atm it would take a serious paradigm shift or three
It may be shit, but beating it really cannot be easy
ofc
13:43
it is probably easier to build a better video site though
you'll need a server farm the size of Malaysia for starters ;]
Why do you guys think YouTube is shit?
youtube isn't shit when you read / inform yourself on the massive technical challenge it is to host / run / build such a massive service
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beating maybe not, but compete against is totally possible
@SomeGuy content
13:44
Yeah, technically, it's a marvel
Just to clarify, we are calling it shit due to adverts. Nothing more.
youtube.com/yt/press/statistics.html competing against them likely isn't going to show an impact
@rlemon what they did to the UX is shit - otherwise is best video site ever
@CarrieKendall Ah. I don't seem to be running into much bad content
@SomeGuy I think the comments system is hopelessly broken, and I think they could focus more on the video than they are... there should be way more options to re-size the video and center it on the screen etc.
13:45
@easwee in your opinion. We are "power users", google makes these interfaces so your grandmother and a half retarded squirrel can use them
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@rlemon yeah but google... i mean, they are supposed to be the greatest computer engineers on earth
Oh, yeah, the Google+ comment integration was a horrible decision
I must be looking at different content though because I don't really ever run into advertisements on YouTube
Oh, yeah, the Google+ comment integration was a horrible decision
Haha
13:45
@Wes we gave them that title after they proved they were.
@rlemon How's your Nexus 5 holding up, by the way?
I'm considering getting a new phone
sits on my dresser
I still use my 4 :/
Why?
it is actually collecting dust. I noticed the other day
Hahaha, why, though?
13:48
you can almost use it as an ionizator
lazy
and I don't like the new SMS
its a little dated but has some links to updated content
13:50
@easwee maybe this will help lumpofcode.blogspot.com/2012/08/…
@easwee does the scroll bounce actually affect your design or is it that you just personally don't like it?
@CarrieKendall It does since I want my website to be fixed - also the bounce ruins the custom scrollbar behaviour
i have custom scrollbars inside articles
@TylerH Checking this now
tried sample on WP doesn't work :(
dang'
14:32
lol i almost give up - tried solving it with modernizr - IE on wp8 get's no-touch class....
@easwee honestly, I wouldn't even bother. I mean your cancelling a default UX action.
I know - but what do you do in case of a html5 game?
I know this case is for website - but I had similar problems with HTML5 games
i was going to make that argument earlier @mike but he is already changing a lot of default UX controls so
imagine having a 100% width/height canvas with drag and touch events
and having your screen bounce around
14:37
in case of an HTML5 game you disable scrolling altogether
@SomeGuy / @Loktar may have more info on it as well.
And what @TylerH suggested is probably a good idea.
Yeah, we disable scrolling
user-scrollable: no
For HTML5 games, you also want to disable focus
i'll get back to it at night - I think I'll redo the scrolling all from scratch from what I've read today
first need to disable all scrolling on all devices
and than I want just custom scroll to work on one div
whole page will have only one scrollable div
14:40
no no no no no
please for the love of satan, do not do that.
why not?
it'd be better to call MS and say "please disable overscroll on WP8"
faux scroll events on mobiles are horrible.
and the majority don't work.
hmm
He already has custom scrollbars, though
Personally, I hate custom scrollbars
14:41
@SomeGuy me too
fuck scrollbars
aren't custom scroll bars circa Netscape Navigator?
custom scrollbars I can handle, but faking the natural scroll I can't.
well i tried to leave default scroll on mobile, and trigger custom scroll from .no-touch from modernizr - but modernizr doesn't set correct classes to wp8 IE
currently checking this
I get rid of scrollbars when making any games
but I never make any that would require the user to scroll (needing a scrollbar that is)
Yeah, they're usually fullscreen ones
yea
I mean... most games everywhere are
How do you handle scaling to fit devices?
imagine if you had to scroll in Faster Than Light
@SomeGuy me? I just upscale
set the *scale
when I test I use ctrl+mouswheel a lot
Yeah. I was thinking of making a helper file that maintained the ratio on screens that have vastly different dimensions
14:43
cocoonjs automatically handles scaling as well on mobile which is sweet
@SomeGuy <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0, user-scalable=no">
So it added black bars on the sides, but didn't compromise your graphics
posted on April 09, 2014

var gaJsHost = (("https:" == document.location.protocol) ? "https://ssl." : "http://www."); document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + gaJsHost + "google-analytics.com/ga.js' type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E")); try { var pageTracker = _gat._getTracker("UA-3727700-1"); pageTracker._trackPageview(); } catch(err) {} AND there's a favorite smbc comic of mine over at The Nib.

ah yeah.. the best approach would probably be to go the webgl route
@easwee Format your code, noob.
14:45
since thats close to desktop games resolution/resizing
@easwee that is just horrible.
@mikedidthis For fullscreen HTML5 games?
@SomeGuy happy nao? :)
Overjoyed
@SomeGuy no, for games I think its ok.
14:46
Yeah, that's what we were talking about
@SomeGuy yeah, sadly he did it on his website as well :(
Aww :/
Think about the users! If there's content, let people zoom in if they want to
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@mikedidthis I copied that from a game template - gonna remove it in the end - but in a game it's nonsense to have zoom
meh solved it - not gonna use custom scrollbars at all
lol
waste of time
:-(
also tried 3 different custom scrollbar plugins - all work crap on WP8 IE
just not worth it
15:01
just blame windows
yeah i will
altough apple is very close to it
there's just no consistency
15:13
is there a better event than onchange for an html5 input?
like, i dont want to have to click out of the input to get the event to fire
html5 input like a textbox?
:focus?
when do you want the event to fire? When they have typed something?
yes
as is that event fires after they click out of the input after typing something
but i want to fire as they type
15:14
I've seen lots of JS-powered forms that check as you type
if that's what you're angling for
ya i think so
onkeyup?
ill google that
thnx
onkeydown??
onChange -- an event is triggered when a new item is selected in a list box. This event is also trigged with a text or text area box loses focus and the contents of the box has changed.
oh wait that's just on focus out still
I'd do keyup
@TylerH Took me a second to recognize you today :D
haha I'm incognito
from now on I will change my avatar every day to confuse you
hah
had to reload window to see new avatar
I was still yellow to you before? :-(
yes
now you look like a tiny venetian mask
15:23
\o/
@Bubbas What happened to Google? Does it have a cold?
are you asking how i chose to proceed?
i used mulitple events
$('select, input, textarea').bind('keydown keypress change', function() { //stuff }
key stuff for the textarea/input
and change for select
yea im using jquery already, just didnt tell you guys lol
my need to jquery has GREATLY diminished as ive gone thru this project however
so remove it
15:30
i seriously doubt ill be using it in my next application
yea i might
Does a line break in css changes the styling?
depends what you mean
browser and email client adds a line break when i view the html on browser
@Suhas, CSS line breaks are used for telling printers and PDF generators where to stop rendering on the current page and start a new one.
but line breaks won't change or mess any css for browsers ?
I am not good with css but just trying to understand the significance of line break
15:41
@SuhasDeshpande can you explain what you think a line break is?
Do you mean the space in the source between two elements?
Like line break in programming is no big deal
<a>
     <--- Line break
<b>
^ that?
They don't matter
^ that
yea.. like this
body[yahoo] .removePad {padding-right:0px !important; padding-left:0px !important}
body[yahoo] .ctaButton {padding: 5px 10px; background-color: #0085c3 !important; color: #ffffff !important; text-decoration: none !important; border-radius: 5px; width: 180px ; text-align: center !important; margin-top: 10px; display: block !important; margin: 0 auto;}
15:43
Hit up to edit, and ctrl+k to format the code
And yeah, it doesn't matter
For readability's sake, you should have them, though
yey do that
@NullPoiиteя Sup!
@mikedidthis hola
15:46
ughhhh apostrophe splice in a question title
@TylerH You use Q&A too much xD
@Zach Hmm?
@TylerH may i ask where ?
^ that's an easy solver too if anyone is looking to spread their benevolence among the common rabble
@ZachSaucier At work atm I'm currently updating 3000+ profiles to include their employee ID, but the system is MS SharePoint 2010 and it is using a Web Part, so every time I load a page it takes a while
15:49
do a search for the next name, 10s. select the name, 10s. hit the edit button, 10s, save the edit, 10s.
lather rinse repeat
<333333 @rlemon
@rlemon Add a delay
@ZachSaucier yea yea
@rlemon lol awesome
15:50
I actually hate making animated gifs
I can send you the frames
@rlemon in England, we call that having a stroke.
lol
I've never made one
@rlemon give up the fulltime job and become a gif artist. You have talent.
lol
imgur.com/a/3UCwH frames for anyone wanting to 'fix' the animation
15:52
haha
so apparently I have too much time on my hands :/
Hello everyone
but the problem is I don't
@rlemon telling me - today at work I haven't wrote a single line of code for the company - just some random personal stuff
Rlemon do you use photoshop for animating?
15:56
GIMP
sucky project management - 1 month working extra hours - next month no work
I use GIMP like SomeGuy said
Hmm I use photoshop xD
I prefer GIMP
Can you tell me why gimp is better than photoshop?
15:58
it's free, not necessarily better
smaller file size too IIRC
if you are pressed for space
@MikeM. no, but I can tell you why I think it is better for me :)
I own PS, I still use GIMP. I like the interface and tools better
Tell me ;)
PS is without argument more powerful. GIMP is comfortable for me
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@rlemon do it both eyes, async blinking of course ahahah
15:59
lol

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