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12:01 PM
posted on July 29, 2015 by kbironneau

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@Feeds That one is actually funny for once
 
posted on July 29, 2015

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
Still my favorite xkcd
 
!!xkcd lemons
 
12:06 PM
Fucking love lemons
 
who doesn't like oranges?
!!xkcd regular expressions
 
@rlemon If only knowing regular expressions would let you swing like that
 
it does
 
Then it would be totally worth it
 
12:15 PM
 
@mikedidthis oh no
 
@mikedidthis listen punk. when are we gonna finally make it to a hangout?
 
!!grouphangout
 
@Rvervuurt That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!learn grouphangout <>http://theroyalhalf.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/nerds-3.jpg
!!grouphangout
 
12:27 PM
@Rvervuurt Command grouphangout learned
 
You're welcome guys!
 
@mikedidthis headers or head?
 
@ZachSaucier no idea
@rlemon no idea
@StephanMuller no idea
treat them all the same
 
Sorry, I was trying to add a yaml header to a markdown doc
 
12:41 PM
Has anyone worked with both JQuery UI's Resizable and CKEditor? I'm running into a problem with a DIV inside a TD that's set to be Resizable, but it stops working the moment I start editing it with CKEditor.
 
@rlemon hangouts tonight?
 
sure, get the britard in on it
 
@rlemon football!
 
fuck your futbol
 
12:52 PM
@mikedidthis why are people so fucking sensitive
less drama more code
 
@Kitler to be fair, I don't think retard was the correct term to use.
 
@Zach
 
It's not, but it's still not reason enough to be taken down
 
So... when you say my website is bad, what level do we mean in regards to Design Layer, Content Layer and Code Layer
I want to learn how to improve it
 
so... GitChub ?? who's with me!
github with no fucks given.
 
12:57 PM
boom
 
@Matthcw Link?
 
@Matthcw Are you the one that made the 90s style site?
 
No, that was this guy with the user1234235r9834ty29385u414395 name
with Bruno Mars
right?
or is that @Matthcw?
 
I think he's talkign about his personal page (check profile_)
 
@Rvervuurt Yep, that's the one I was thinking about
 
1:08 PM
no, this is the one who is indie.
 
@Rvervuurt yes, the bruno mars guy is someone else
 
ok, need a link @Matthcw
 
I decided my homepage needs revamping
should I use material design lite from google?
 
I'm gonna use the wave effect on my new page
 
looks pretty slick
 
1:09 PM
looks slick for an app
not for a webpage
use it as inspiration
 
my webpage is an app selling me
:D
 
it's too boxy boxy :P
material design
can I see your current site?
 
I can't design a turd to save my life
 
i am pretty sure you could design something that looked like a turd. i mean, the guys from south park managed to do it :p
 
I'll try my best...
 
1:11 PM
@rlemon That's a pretty good design
I like it, anyway
 
But really, use it as an influence, not as a base
does that make sense? :)
 
@SomeGuy you live :O
 
Haha, hi!
 
I guess @Matthcw left the building
 
I've just been a bit busy
 
1:13 PM
not likely, he is probably still lurking
 
Being away from chat indicates that I'm being productive, usually :P
 
@SomeGuy With me it means I'm taking a shit
or sleaping, if you ask @easwee
 
Your smartphone is useless if you're not on chat while taking a dump
 
Apologies, I closed the tab as I was doing something!
My website is matthcw.com
 
All the palette colors and stuff they are presenting is really interesting and could be use everyday as inspiration. Dunno about the entire ... librairy?
 
1:15 PM
I am currently making different website now but I think the critique and recommendations of you web dev's would help me steer in the right direction
 
I like that it is simple, but it is also a bit one-note
 
your website is really hard to read
 
Nothing pulls your attention
 
also, because everything looks the same I have no idea what I should focus on
yeah what @neil says
 
You should prioritize what you want potential employers to see and find ways of making it draw your attention to it
 
1:17 PM
Ah, interesting.
 
There is a lot of UX/UI masturbation about all those FAB that Google is using everywhere. Still don't know what to think about this.
 
You should have a news section, but the first thing that you should see is your "about" page
 
Definintely should get rid of all those div's in the home page.
 
and make the about page make you go "wow, that's cool"
 
Ohhh, haha so I should bring my about page to the home page, got you.
 
1:19 PM
if you can make the background flip like it were made from tiles, you'd get my vote for the cool factor :P
 
What do you mean make the background flip?
 
i'm trying to find a good example
 
Make it functional first
Ignore neil:P
 
it doesn't have to be tile flip, just some near effect that makes your site seem dynamic without being flashy
 
^ form follows function
 
1:21 PM
When you say functional Sippy, what do you mean because the website works so I am not sure what you mean?
 
good point, focus on flow first
 
Works != functional
 
Functional = ?
 
Should say "Compiles != functional"
 
@Matthcw "works"
 
1:21 PM
Show me your site again
I don't have the link
 
@MadaraUchiha You're confusing the man
 
@Matthcw functional = that it functions
that it does what the website is made for
and then start thinking about adding fancy pantsy stuff
 
Doesn't my website function?
 
I don't think so
 
1:22 PM
Ah ok, my definition of functional is that it presents the information in a manner that's easy to digest
 
@Matthcw Can't remember who already told you this here, but you should start by adding a link to your homepage on the logo/header.
 
Your website looks currently like it's in need of a tl;dr
 
it's not a broken website, so in a certain sense yes, it is functional
 
So what makes my website dysfunctional ?
 
Too much clutter
 
1:22 PM
but it doesn't do what it is intended
 
Lots of disparate information and I dunno what links up to what, where to begin, why things are like they are
 
Focus is key
 
In need of some usability fixes :D
 
All textr is the same size. Headlines are the same size as the date and text, the menu in the bottom is difficult to read
it's really grey, except if you hover, then you suddenly get pure RGB-colors thrown in your face
 
Most people are impatient and aren't going to want to read all the tiles
 
1:24 PM
think of a plain sign with large, clear, black letters on a white background. it works. now imagine a sign with pink glitter and flashing lights. it is fancier, but doesnt work because it distracts from the message
 
When you're in here, functional will tend to mean that it delivers content efficiently in a manner that's easy to read, digest, remember, etc
Usability is key
 
There are no images? I want to see that you ran 10k, or that the article is about running before I read the headline
 
Also the black isn't very exciting.
 
well, that should be some useful stuff up there ^
 
hahaha that 10k Run
 
1:25 PM
And that menu on the bottom thing, I haven't seen many sites that use that. Not to say it doesn't work, but it should definitely not be low alpha
Make it opaque :P
 
It seems that you guys know about a secret that I don't yet
 
overall the layout is not that great, and the color scheme is horrible.
 
So is there some sort of article I can read to learn what you guys know about web design?
 
translucency is a fading trend (pun intended)
 
@Matthcw It's called web usability training and you will understand it.
@Neil badum ...
 
1:26 PM
@Matthcw you probably need to read about "typography"
 
@Matthcw You're gonna need to read many articles.
 
Ok - Reading that gist
 
And try many things.
And obviously, usability is also partly a matter of opinion.
 
@Matthcw The secret is gut feeling
 
Sometimes there's consensus, other times there isn't.
 
1:27 PM
Just look at some professional websites until you find one that makes you say "wow, this really looks clean, but conveys the message well" and try to model your website off of that one :P
 
:P
There's plenty of successful websites that are shit.
 
One thing: stay away from sites that say "these are the design trends of now", because they often just display stuff that looks cool, but doesn't function
 
cough reddit
 
well you know when they're shit, because as soon as you want to learn more about what they do, and you don't know within 30 seconds.. well
 
1:28 PM
craigslist
 
Those websites succeed because their content is important.
@RonaldUlyssesSwanson Muahahahahahaha RIP
If you want your website to succeed, you either need content everyone wants to read, or you need to make your content easy to read.
Simple as.
 
WWAD (what would amazon do?)
 
Now I have to go and fix a control that's been hard coded since the very beginning and I really want to rebuild it but I don't give enough fucks.. :/
 
@Sippy or you trap people into being required to visit
 
@TylerH Dependency model! :D
 
1:30 PM
Ovh down ?
 
@RonaldUlyssesSwanson It looks like something happened.
 
@Baldráni ?
 
@rlemon haha thanks for the review, the parts after the About Me section were funny
 
OVH french Hosting seems to be down
 
1:30 PM
Ok now I will read the rest of the comments from the top
 
First time I see that
 
@Baldráni Maybe you'd want to add a bit more info next time you shout something out of the blue...
 
@PeeHaa how's the new site coming along?
 
This is an awful awful website
 
@Neil instant anxiety
Why does it take so long to load
I don't want to look
 
1:32 PM
Webpagesthatsuck sucks
 
@Matthcw Like Sippy mentioned yesterday, you have to start reading, reading a lot.
 
@Rvervuurt is that still around?
 
you don't know what the website does, huge menu.. doesn't resize apparently..
 
@Neil cri
 
that thing is ancient >.>
 
1:32 PM
@cimmanon Well, @neil just mentioned it
still the best website ever
 
@Rvervuurt yeah the website itself isn't terrific
 
@Neil thats kinda the point :p
 
you should have seen it back when it was new
 
1:34 PM
@Cerbrus ^
Whitespace argument hahahaha
 
> Looking at an LCD screen is strainful enough. Don't make me read a line of text that's 200 fucking characters long. Keep it to a nice 60-80 and users might actually read more than one sentence of your worthless dribble.
 
@MadaraUchiha I should start support like that
 
Ok thank you guys I just finished reading the rest of your comments
 
@Matthcw I wish we could tell you to do x, y, and z and you'll have a rockin' website but it is a complicated endeavor
You sort of have to develop a feel for these things
 
1:37 PM
I made another website though, what do you think of sendemojis.com (if you care to look, not forcing answers here)
 
that's the same URL you posted monday
 
Same problem in design? Or better design?
 
@Matthcw If you actually made that, it's functionally quite a lot better.
 
Yeah it was one of my projects, inspired by some guy who made a "Send your enemies glitter" website
Yeah it's on the same domain
 
why is your blog site not on that level?
Lol
 
1:38 PM
Matthcw/sendemojis.com
 
@Matthcw You should fix the voiceover of the video, it's often ununderstandable
 
@Matthcw too much red in that middle section
 
Well, it's because I thought the weird unique design looked "cool". Which also mean't I expected everyone else to think it looked cool
 
@MadaraUchiha lol
 
> "I have no friends. So I sent one to myself. #ForeverAlone
#StillWorthIt"
RIP Nathan
 
1:39 PM
lol
 
@Matthcw Text is too thin
 
@Matthcw That a lot better in therm of contrast, types, ordering information.
Tips, like on your website, you should be careful about the rendering of your fonts
 
@Matthcw It isn't cluttered by a lot of things.. the message is read linearly and there isn't much to read
 
Haha, yeah bad font choice
 
1:40 PM
The one thing I hate
About that design
 
Not the choice, the rendering
 
@Matthcw Do you buy the emojis somewhere? Or are they handmade?
 
Is something I hate about all single page websites.
2muchScroll
 
Buy them from whole sale websites
in bulk
For the record that website only got 3 email sign ups
 
@Sippy it's a trend like the translucency, and like the translucency, it too will fade ;)
 
1:41 PM
It's not easy to make an idea that will make millions and revolutionise the world
 
@Matthcw duh
 
@Neil It'll roll on
 
Those ideas often cost people nothing
 
pun intended
 
1:42 PM
@RonaldUlyssesSwanson That's upbeat.
Thank you
 
@Rvervuurt the world will eventually turn the page on this scroll trend
 
@Neil @Rvervuurt get a room
 
@Neil In a few thousand years, humankind will read about it on scrolls
 
@Matthcw you should give that a max width
scaling all the way with the browser becomes way too wide
leave some whitespace man
 
FU iTunes
 
1:44 PM
@Rvervuurt I can't top that
 
@Neil you didn't even try
 
I can't top that
 
oh god
I just hit rock bottom
I'll let myself out
 
@Rvervuurt I'll page you if there are any changes ;)
 
You're really committed to this, huh
 
1:46 PM
everybody shut up pls
 
@StephanMuller Why, it's so... refreshing
I've stopped making puns ages ago, just randomly putting words in italics
 
ahahhahahahahahahahahha
 
Good job Tokyo 2020!
 
I understand that a journalist's company was told that they were going to be sued in a live press conference because that journalist asked Trump a question that "put words in his mouth"
 
Trump is a joke
he's basking in his 15 minutes of fame now
I'm a Bernie fan myself.
 
1:51 PM
@rlemon when your choices are hillary clinton, jeb bush, and trump, trump looks pretty damn good
 
I think for him, suing somebody is synonomous with an insult, and probably just as interchangeable
 
@cimmanon I'd take hillary over trump any fucking day of the week
at least she isn't full retard
 
please not hillary
 
@cimmanon There are no choices in the American "voting" system
 
hillary > jeb > trump
 
1:52 PM
@rlemon really? the lawyer who defended a rapist by saying the underaged girl was asking for it?
 
you choose a face, but what happens after that is equal no matter what face runs the country
now, voting in a European country, THAT's voting
 
@cimmanon TRUMP WANTS TO BUILD A FENCE TO KEEP MEXICAN "rapists" OUT! :P
and jeb is a fucking moron like the rest of his family
clinton is the lesser of three evils
 
@cimmanon hah, yeah, right
 
I really really hope Sanders keeps up the momentum into 2016
 
@rlemon and this isn't even the most ridiculous thing this doucecanoe said lately... by FAR
 
1:53 PM
from my perspective, he's the only sane candidate so far
 
@Rvervuurt i'm sure you are not referring to any european country :P
 
sarcasm is hard in text
 
lol
it's always giant douche vs turd sandwich
2
 
I look at trump as a worse Candidate than Vermin Supreme
 
@rlemon so what? he wants to build a fence?
 
1:55 PM
and Vermin was a total joke (albeit very funny)
 
@rlemon you were talking about ternary to check whether a key exists in a collection yesterday
Weirdly right now I need the shit out of that.
this.prices['adm']
 
@cimmanon he wants to basically destroy the economy and start a war with mexico
 
if this.prices['adm'] is 0, remove a tr, else do some shit
 
he's a fucking asshole and a racist
 
Did I just answer my own question
Did I even ask a question
k nevermind.
 
1:57 PM
@rlemon LOL
kindly stfu
you damn liberal.
 
how about you ead
BERNIE FOR PRES!
 
Saying Clinton is the lesser of 3 evils is just crazy
Jeb would be much better than her
 
@Loktar I don't know much about Jeb but there's no way in hell Clinton is worse than Trump
 
there is no way in hell anyone is worse than Trump
 
US politics are one big sham anyway
 
1:59 PM
@StephanMuller I disagree
 
bush/clinton/trump <- between bush and clinton I honestly wouldn't want either, but I would still (if forced) vote for clinton
the bush administration has never made me happy.
 
I don't like Trump, but I like Clinton less
 
but I'm not an American so w/e
 
@rlemon I was about to say lol
Do you need to get worked up about this
 
1:59 PM
I'm not working up
 
@Loktar why?
 
Hey guys Obama got elected, and thats been awesome O.o
 

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