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4:02 PM
sometimes the "good" alternative is just not worth it @Kitler
idgaf let's !important all the things!
 
@Kitler I don't mind
 
imagine having .error .warning .success and more and overriding them all "the good way"
it's just not worth it
 
yup
 
4:21 PM
@Kitler yay news fighting other news instead of reporting news
 
4:32 PM
sometimes when i google basic stuff i m ashamed
 
Hey guys
 
hi guys
is it somehow possible to add a tittle attribute to a pseudoelement ?
 
@Kasper no
 
nope
why would you
 
4:38 PM
it's a non existent element
 
I'm fairly new to HTML and CSS. I've been busy designing a webpage. I've come to find that planning the size of each of my page elements and organizing them is not so easy for me. I understand everything about padding, borders, margins, etc. but what has been troubling is planning how large I want every element to be and where it will go.
 
@Jacob make it mobile first
 
I was wondering if there was some kind of online or free software for plannijng websites
Because planning on paper is not doing it for me. It's not precise enough
 
no need for one
you don't want precise, this isn't an image or anything
 
What do you mean by make it mobile?
 
I use a.bat to start nginx and a .bat to stop it!
 
@Ki
 
Can anyone help me?
 
@Kitler I would like this C to have a title
the title class
 
@LiamHardy that's pretty far from on topic for the room
 
4:42 PM
but it is a pseudo element
 
What is off topic about it?
 
"HTML / CSS / WebDesign"
what's on-topic about it?
 
I'm focusing on a webpage to be displayed on a computer for now, @ZachSaucier. I just want a simple way to organize elements and plan their positions, padding, margins, etc.
 
doesn't matter @Jacob
 
That's it's to do with ALL of them words..
 
4:43 PM
sounds like a hosting issue to me, @Liam, not dealing with any of them
 
Why doesn't it? The problems I have with CSS are almost entirely about padding, margins, spacing, sizing, positioning, etc of elements
 
i have no idea what you're talking about :P
 
@Jacob because every site should be responsive
 
2 messages moved to bin
 
@Liam please stop posting about it. You've been warned
next time you're out
 
4:44 PM
that gave me a headeache
damn it i was kicking him
 
But I'm not even talking about response
 
good bye o/
 
damn it i was trashing them :P
 
I'm talking about layout
 
4:45 PM
@Kitler too slow :P
 
to be fair i m really really high right now
response time takes a hit :P
 
@Jacob what specific problems are you having? do you have an example?
@Kitler I thought you always were...?
 
hahah no not when i m at work
away pest
 
wonder if he ll come back
 
4:47 PM
@ZachSaucier I wouldn't say it is a problem, it just makes my time creating webpage layouts more difficult and confusing.
 
you have yet to explain what's troublesome about it
besides "it takes time"
 
@ZachSaucier I'm creating a very simple site right now with a header, a vertical navigation bar on the left, and a main area to the right
 
ofc it takes time
 
@ZachSaucier No, no, time is not my concern. I simply want to be able to organize my elements nicely so I can better plan for the programming
 
ah
familiar with bem ?
 
4:49 PM
@ZachSaucier and so I won't have to sit there going through positioning, sizing, margins, padding, and borders to make sure it is all correct afterwards
 
it's a sort of organisation method
 
Kitler, are you talking to me?
 
so what's wrong with drawing it out?
 
!!google BEM
yup
 
she's not here @Kitler
 
4:50 PM
oh wait nevermind misunderstood
 
Drawing doesn't give me precision.
 
you just said you don't want precision :P
 
@ZachSaucier summon in the js room
 
> "so I won't have to sit there going through positioning, sizing, margins, padding, and borders to make sure it is all correct afterwards"
 
@ZachSaucier go to the js room and !!summon 29074
 
4:52 PM
I'm not a JS RO...
 
For instance, the header is 960px wide, same as the webpage
 
you don't need to be
in JavaScript, 1 min ago, by Caprica Six
@Kitler Registered; need 1 more to execute
 
Every element is in a container which is centered using margin-left/right auto
Then, I know I want a nav bar on the left, which will be skinnier than the main area which will be on the right
So when I first started writing the css doc for this, I just used 150px and 750px for the lengths of the nav bar and main area respetively
But now since I've completed the basis of the page, I want to go on and stylize the nav bar and main area to be padded, and every element to be bordered
 
what are you asking?
 
vOv
 
4:56 PM
I want to keep my original sizes the same, but it is confusing for me to add in the padding when I want it and then subtract from the width of the elements
 
!!afk lunch
@Jacob box-sizing:border-box
 
@Jacob box-sizing: border-box on everything
 
What does that do?
 
look it up.
 
!!mdn border-box
damn it she's not here
 
4:57 PM
doing so
Wow. This sounds exactly what I need
 
5:12 PM
@rlemon ^
 
someone bring cap back
I'm having withdrawals
or as british people say, withdrawerals
 
lol
need a js room owner
user image
4
 
lol
 
@Kitler I thought you just said we didn't have to be one a second ago to Zach -_-
 
it's bugged
we went in there kept sayin need 1 more vote
 
5:27 PM
opinionated
mfer
I hate when people use a title that is asking the opposite of what their question body is asking
 
It's been a long time since i last saw a <center>
still tags like <marquee> are still used today
marquee for small screens is gold
and there's no css equivalent
for example, the <isindex> attribute was removed in HTML4 (was a thing in HTML3.2). Also the <basefont> tag iirc doesn't work anymore. — Worf 10 secs ago
@TylerH ^
 
5:45 PM
@Kitler I'm using Sublime Text 3 to edit my css documents. When I type begin to type 'box' of 'box-sizing', Sublime doesn't show a suggestion for 'box-sizing'. It doesn't have show one for border-box either
Is this a problem at all? Sublime is not applying syntax highlighting to it either
 
ok and?
you ll need to get a package that highlights css3 properties
 
Okay. I'll look through package control for oen
 
you need to add the repo
follow the installation instructions
 
sorry?
Oh
I haven't done that before. Do you know if it's similar to installing other packages such as themes?
 
did you follow the instructions?
do you have package control installed ?
 
5:53 PM
anyone know why i get this error 'inViewport is not a function' from this code: $('#feed-wrapper article').inViewport(function(px){
if(px) $(this).addClass('animated') ;
});
 
my eyes
if inViewport is a plugin it ain't loaded
 
@Kitler I have PC. I haven't installed the repository yet
 
check inclusion order
what does pc have to do with anything ?
you don't need to clone it
you add it from sublime in package control
 
ik
I have it installed now
 
cool
 
5:58 PM
Oh! There, it works
Package control is amazing once again.
 
6:50 PM
does anyone mind if I rickroll them?
 
nope
 
@Kitler ok in that case visit this link I swear it's useful and relevant to your interests youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
saik !!
 
oh nooo rick rolled again !!!
how did i not see that coming
 
i enjoy the song / the singer / everything every time.
i especially enjoy the white men dancing and the black man serving at bar (and dancing too)
 
I love when the black man jumps onto a fence like a spider
 
6:58 PM
lol
 
@rlemon
Free startup idea: a stool for people with standing desks.
 
"Click here to not subscribe to not get our emails"
 
http://i.imgur.com/rN8wTUZ.jpg
omg that monkey's face, I'm dying
3
 
@StephanMuller AHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
 
8:57 PM
 
^ true
 
anyone figure out the code these guys are using to scale the font? talkpr.com
 
scale the font?
 
yer if you look at their main panels on the homepage
as you rescale the homepage you see the font size adapts
 
9:14 PM
ah, well you can use vh vw vmin vmax
jsfiddle.net/gLrxzrma @probablybest
 
thanks for the tip
 
9:42 PM
yw
 
9:58 PM
@Worf not chinese.
 
@Purify chichauchan
 
10:32 PM
Hello ! :)
 
11:23 PM
Hi all, anyone who can recommend a excelent bootstrap 3 book to get to know and work with bootstrap in a jiffy?
 
oh crap, we meet again daylight saving time
-1 hour of sleep -__-
 
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