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13:00
I think that particular scene ranks #1 or #2 of all the really hard to take scenes in any anime series.
And I watched Elfen Lied and Attack on Titan
Elfien Lied was... eh...
it was good, but a bit too..dunno
The manga is better
I bet
Like a whole lot better
The anime was good, but they messed up in a couple of ways there :P
That series must have been rule 34'd into hell and back
13:01
Pretty much XD
attack vectors? more like...pleasure vectors!
If you like awesome powers and abilities, I recommend you watch Toaru Kagaku no Railgun as well
The character with my favorite ability is there
@DarkAshelin will testify :P
:P will check it out then
you know the best part of this chat?
I get paid for this
@SecondRikudo agree. Which is ur fav ability there?
@DarkAshelin My personal fav is Accelerator/Vector Manipulation
He's not the strongest, but he's my favorite.
13:04
@SecondRikudo same fav char. Isn't he the strongest?
@DarkAshelin He's lose to some magic side characters.
my fav ability out of railgun is Teleportation tho, Kuroko's
@SecondRikudo ah well I don't count the magic side anyway
@DarkAshelin I dunno about you, but I'd take Vector Manipulation over Teleportation every day XD
@SecondRikudo because it's more powerful / has more uses?
Because it's upwards compatible with 99% of the abilities in Academy City
With enough practice, Accelerator can do anything Misaka, Mugino, even Misaki can do.
13:06
Can anyone tell me what's I'm doing wrong? stackoverflow.com/questions/27733186/…
The only exceptions being the power of the #2, which is completely unique, and Teleportations.
@SecondRikudo is the power of #2 already revealed in the anime's?
@DarkAshelin No, which is why I didn't say it :P
ah ok
sounds interesting
I still count on you reading the LN
13:08
@Justcode aw Angular, had it been knockout sure
anyway Teleportation is my fav, always has been (even as a kid watching Xmen). Not because it's powerful though
gotta go now i actually have some work to do
been a pleasure though
but watching Kuroko in action reveals a lot of different usages. I mean she can even fly with it :D
@Eirinn ok no worries
@DarkAshelin To a point, yes, but that part actually doesn't make sense
13:09
@SecondRikudo why not?
Because teleported objects maintain momentum
If you remain airborne for more than 10 seconds, you'd still go at terminal velocity when you land.
she just teleports before the momentum changes
It takes about a second to teleport though
it didn't when she flew with misaka
Make the 11th dimension calculation and the such
13:11
anyway Teleportation seems to be one of the most useful abilities irl
+ it just looks cool
Accelerator can travel at over the speed of sound pretty easily
Plus, as you know, he can fly too :P
yeah while destroying everything in his path?
@DarkAshelin He was shown to be able to navigate on the street while giving chase at 900kmph without damaging anything around him
sugoi-desu
@SecondRikudo when?
@DarkAshelin Very very late in the LN
13:15
@SecondRikudo LN = manga?
@DarkAshelin Light Novel
Not so Light if you ask me XD
Did you understand why automated testing is important? Or was the conversation dropped after I left? @DarkAshelin
@SecondRikudo yes @BasementKeyboardHero explained it to me. Though I understand why it is used now, I still don't understand how it works exactly. But I guess I'll learn that later on
@DarkAshelin Well, that part is pretty simple if you have a build step
Before you deploy any sort of code, you run the test code first, and if it all passes, you may deploy, if not, you fix your code to pass the tests, run it again, and then deploy if it passes.
13:20
@SecondRikudo I do wonder what a lvl 5 teleporter could do though. considering Kuroko is already this powerful with her ability
@DarkAshelin I would imagine Awaki would be able to apply if it weren't for he Trauma.
@SecondRikudo I just don't understand how the unit test can catch bugs/glitches that manual tests can't.
@SecondRikudo Awaki has a different ability
Move Point is a form of Teleportation.
yes a form of
but I mean, if Kuroko would reach lvl 5, would she gain Move Point ability?
doesn't seem right to me
@DarkAshelin Probably not. But I don't think Kuroko can reach lvl 5.
13:23
btw that Accelerator scene you mentioned, is there a manga page of it? if it doesn't contain spoilers can you link it? :D
Just like Uiharu maxed her potential at level 1.
@DarkAshelin No, sadly.
@SecondRikudo doh
not even a picture?
@DarkAshelin Light Novel is a book
Words only, images are very sparse.
I will say this though, in hopes of getting you to read it
Accelerator's Black Wings mode isn't his strongest, not by a long shot
coolio.
@DarkAshelin running the entire test suite on every change allows you to make sure you haven't broken anything in your change
Changes can have unexpected effects on other parts of the code
13:25
@SecondRikudo ah so the test suite would go through every possible scenario there is to use the site?
including all browsers, clicking all buttons there are
@DarkAshelin There are two main types of automated tests
Unit tests which test the correctness of a single unit, generally work on the method level of granularity.
And Scenario tests which test the system as a whole
Unit tests are cheap to create and maintain, and they are fast to run.
Scenario tests are big and heavy, and require maintenance as the site changes
Unit tests are there to verify that a unit works, and Scenario tests are there to make sure all units are wired together correctly.
@StephanMuller you made me cough up while clicking that
@StephanMuller wtf?
13:28
@SecondRikudo my company desperately needs unit testing.
this is the reason why we constantly break stuff
@DarkAshelin Unit testing gives you confidence
probably 80% of the time spent coding is spent on fixing bugs that appeared by other ppl's changes
If you make a change, and all tests still pass, you know that you did OK
And if something fails you catch the bug instantly
@SecondRikudo My little brother has a HTML course in school and today's assignment is to recreate this with proper HTML
@StephanMuller Nice!
13:29
that's an actual live website, I wonder if they're going to send the best student's results to that guy
My brother was taught to use tables for layouts.
@StephanMuller with proper layout too?
@SecondRikudo lol same here
heh no, it's not a design course :P
I told him to do his homework and listen in class, but disregard everything that teacher says once he's doing real things.
I'm impressed by the quality of the HTML they write though
squeaky clean
13:31
@StephanMuller probably because it's simple stuff
<div id="apDiv45"><img src="Grote knoppen/streep.png" width="20" height="40" /></div>
<div id="apDiv46"><img src="Grote knoppen/streep.png" width="20" height="40" /></div>
<div id="apDiv47"><img src="Grote knoppen/streep.png" width="20" height="40" /></div>
I'm sorry, that's not squeaky clean by any standard I have.
the website is the bad example
they need to improve it
Oh, I thought he referred to the example
@DarkAshelin Sure. But the only comparison I have is to how I learned HTML back in the early '00s, and even super simple stuff would look horrible :P
@StephanMuller I must show u the stuff I learned
if I can find anything left of it
13:32
@StephanMuller Back at the day it was perfectly acceptable to use tables for layouts
Because you simply had nothing better :P
you guys want to cringe? let me upload my very first website for you all to point and laugh
the "when I was younger I tried Wicca" starred message will pale in comparison
@StephanMuller maybe this sara-peeters.com/about.php
Ignore the Hebrew, see the JS code.
That is what my brother learns
@DarkAshelin worse
@SecondRikudo oh boy
And the entire book is *filled with that crap
It took everything I had to not burn the whole thing down right then and there.
13:35
@StephanMuller noooooooooo~
@SecondRikudo why don't u go to that teacher and tell him the shit's outdated (or just plain bad)
@StephanMuller what could be better about it?
@DarkAshelin I seriously considered it
@SecondRikudo they're teaching the new generation of devs, you should!
Ok I uploaded the site but I'm really embarrassed
please point and laugh
"ikke?" xDDD
oh god I forgot you're dutch
you can actually even read that shit
13:38
tbh tho that site has a buttload of functionalities I never even knew existed when I made my first
I know where u live now
that's like the last thing I'm worried about
:(
fear me!
DE GROTE FRISTI SITE??
@DarkAshelin That's why my long term goal
oh that's a great story
hold on, skype call
After I don't really need a day job to function, is to be a teacher.
13:40
I can't even click the "Fun" page
2fast4me
I don't know if at high school, college, private, or whatever
I see and work with people who are graduates of the education system here, and save for a few, they don't really know things.
13:55
@SecondRikudo Hey that's me!
Yeah uni doesn't teach professional development, it teaches hobbyist development.
I once worked in a company where none of the devs had graduated, but one - that one that was graduated got fired 3 months after we hired him
titles are irrelevant
brain counts
damn, I'm just catching up on the news
A lot of the best devs I know don't have degrees.
@Sippy the courses i took in college were more geared for the poor secretary who got saddled with working on the website :p
@cimmanon lolol
13:57
just fire up good ol' frontpage 2000!
The females at my uni didn't help the stereotype that women aren't generally apt coders.
15 girls started when I did, 2 graduated
if you could figure out how to get frontpage to upload via ftp, you deserve a gold star!
@cimmanon Lol
I hate all things ftp

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