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12:01 AM
@ElectionBot help
 
Examples of election FAQs I can help with:
- what is an election
- how to nominate myself
- how to vote
- who should I vote for
- how is candidate score calculated
- what is my candidate score
- what are the moderation/participation/editing badges
- what is the election status
- when is the election starting/ending
- when is the next phase
- how many positions are elected
- who are the candidates
- who are the current mods
 
when is the next phase
 
The next phase is the election at 2021-10-18 20:00:00Z (in 6 days).
 
So nomination lasts 6 days?
 
7, no? :) From 2021-10-11 20:00:00Z to ..
 
12:03 AM
@Scratte but one still had to write the bot and program it properly to identify content that needs to be flagged. The activity might be automated but the flags still come from the user who developed the bot.
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE it's 3 minutes past midnight UTC
 
automation just leaves for time for other activities
 
@Dharman Sure. Maybe I just figured that once it's done.. then the flags just rolls in forever.
 
@Nick Presumably because the page was created by Americans. Any more questions, or does that cover it?
@Scratte I actually don't know anything at all about Twitter, other than enough to testify that what @JeremyCaney is saying is true. The link I posted was an entirely different thing. It was a link to emojis of national flags. It was a pun, you see. Compounded in hilarity by how much I hate emojis.
@Scratte For Twitter moderators? I don't know if they have trouble finding people who want to do the job. I think they pay their moderators, which would certainly make it much easier to find people. On SO and SE sites, we do often struggle even to find people who are willing to do it. Of course, as you said, finding the right people is even harder.
@IanCampbell Oh no. It wasn't nearly that bad.
 
@JeremyCaney an acquaintance from the reviewer leaderboard, nice to see you o/
 
12:14 AM
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
@CodyGray those pesky Americans, they forget where they came from
 
@ElectionBot help
 
Examples of election FAQs I can help with:
- what is an election
- how to nominate myself
- how to vote
- who should I vote for
- how is candidate score calculated
- what is my candidate score
- what are the moderation/participation/editing badges
- what is the election status
- when is the election starting/ending
- when is the next phase
- how many positions are elected
- who are the candidates
- who are the current mods
 
what are the moderation/participation/editing badges
 
12:22 AM
Civic Duty - [x]
Cleanup - [x]
Deputy - [x]
Electorate - [x]
Marshal - no
Reviewer - [x]
Sportsmanship - no
Steward - no
Still a long way to go!
 
who are the candidates
 
Currently there is 1 candidate: Zoe
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE you can simply ask the bot for your candidate score, and it will tell you what you are missing
what is the candidate score for 15578194
:(
 
You broke it again.
 
what is the candidate score for 6296561
 
12:24 AM
@U12-Forward The candidate score for user U12-Forward is 40 (out of 40).
 
landed in the middle of a reboot
 
uh
what is the candidate score for 6296561
 
@U12-Forward Please read my previous message...
 
what is 6296561 candidate score
 
The 40-point candidate score is calculated this way: 1 point for each 1,000 reputation up to 20,000 reputation (20 points); and 1 point for each of the 8 moderation, 6 editing, and 6 participation badges (20 points)
 
12:25 AM
@U12-Forward who is 6296561?
 
Zoe
Wonder what badge his missing
 
@U12-Forward I'm going to guess Sportsmanship.
 
@U12-Forward You mean "is", right?
 
I did not remember you getting mod privileges, @U12-Forward :)
 
Lemme see
 
12:26 AM
@gparyani I think it was intended to be "he's", although should be "she's"
 
@gparyani is
 
what is the candidate score for 6296561
 
@OlegValter The candidate score for user Zoe is 39 (out of 40). The user is missing this badge: Sportsmanship.
 
Yes
 
^ see?
 
12:26 AM
Ah
 
what is the candidate score for 15578194
 
@OlegValter The candidate score for user Someone_who_likes_SE is 8 (out of 40). The user is missing these required badges: Convention, Strunk & White.
 
Suggestion: make the bot post an SEDE query that shows the number of answers a user can vote on to earn Sportsmanship. This way, we know whether they're eligible to earn it but haven't attempted, or if they outright can't earn it because they haven't answered enough questions others have also answered.
 
You know that all you have to do it just load the profile, right?
Which one would hope people do if they're interested in a candidate.
 
what is the candidate score for 2157772
 
12:29 AM
@bad_coder The candidate score for user bad_coder is 25 (out of 40). The user is missing these badges: Investor, Sportsmanship.
 
Wonder who else is going for this one
what is my candidate score
 
@U12-Forward Wow! You have a maximum candidate score of 40! Please consider nominating yourself in the election!
 
@OlegValter does election bot only work for the user who asks?
 
So.. Zoe has 585 Answers. I expect not all of them are single Answers on the post.
 
@bad_coder No
 
12:31 AM
@bad_coder no, but it does not allow you arbitrarily perform privileged commands if you are not their mommy or a mod :)
 
@Nick then why did I get my score instead of the score for the given userid
 
I guess it was part of the reboot
 
@OlegValter ahh, ok.
 
it just soft-defaults to your id to respond with something useful instead of "nope, no privilege no score"
@ElectionBot help
 
Examples of election FAQs I can help with:
- what is an election
- how to nominate myself
- how to vote
- who should I vote for
- how is candidate score calculated
- what is my candidate score
- what are the moderation/participation/editing badges
- what is the election status
- when is the election starting/ending
- when is the next phase
- how many positions are elected
- who are the candidates
- who are the current mods
 
12:32 AM
@ElectionBot what are your Easter eggs
 
Keep talking and nobody explodes.
 
Who was this guy?
4 hours ago, by ElectionBot
We have a new nomination! Please welcome our latest candidate Tamás Sengel!
 
@bad_coder if you notice, there is no "what is the candidate score for" command in the public help
 
@U12-Forward See Catija's 13-starred message.
 
Ah it was a joke?
Then how come I don't see it
 
12:33 AM
Seems so
 
@U12-Forward Twas deleted
 
@U12-Forward I hope the user comes back, I liked his nomination!
 
@bad_coder Me too
I would have voted for him as my first candidate :P
 
@gparyani did you think it will be that simple to find them? :)
 
12:34 AM
@U12-Forward alright :D
 
@SamuelLiew Wow!
 
@OlegValter Just asking, did you see my suggestion above?
 
gimme my chips, and I vote for you :P
 
@gparyani eh, yes, I saw it, a moment - was in the middle of answering when I got distracted, sorry
what are the participation badges?
 
The 6 participation badges are: Constituent, Convention, Enthusiast, Investor, Quorum, Yearling
 
12:37 AM
I am suprised that i am 40/40
what's the candidate score for 10555677
 
@U12-Forward The candidate score for user U12-Forward is 40 (out of 40).
 
Not me...
what is the candidate score for 10555677
 
@U12-Forward Please read my previous message...
 
Right. The bot is talking about U12-Backwards :)
 
what's the candidate score for 10555677
 
12:38 AM
@OlegValter The candidate score for user ElectionBot is 0 (out of 40). The user is missing these required badges: Civic Duty, Convention, Deputy, Strunk & White.
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How many moderators does it take to fix a light bulb?
 
It only takes 23 mods! Just ask josliber.
 
@OlegValter Lol it only listens to you
@Scratte Haha
 
@U12-Forward no, this is a privileged command, that's all :)
 
12:40 AM
@OlegValter Why was it decided to not make it available to the general public?
 
I'd guess largely because you can't nominate others, you don't need to know their scores
 
only mods and devs can request candidate scores for others - this command is very API-heavy, so it requires a someone with bot privilege to access
 
plus what @Nick said
 
No questionnaire this year?
Not on meta I mean
 
12:43 AM
It's now part of the election itself rather than a separate meta post
 
@gparyani so... (ironic that every time I try to answer your question, somebody tries to run a privileged command 😁) re: your suggestion - I think the bot can do the calculation without a SEDE query by requesting the API and just give you the result but we need to flash out the details first, I guess. If @SamuelLiew does not have any objections, I think it will be a nice addition to the bot
 
Why not just pin the SEDE - Election candidate score calculator for those that want to check others out?
I mean maybe I'm not interested in everyone else knowing that my score is 2..
 
why not do both? :)
 
That won't be necessary if the candidate score is changing
 
12:57 AM
that's true - depends on how fast 6 to 8 will be this time :) cc @Catija
 
One needs to do something for it to change, no?
 
Election fever is here again
 
@ElectionBot how many mods does it take to change a lightbulb
 
It only takes 17 mods! Just ask Cody Gray.
 
Well he would be the one to know
 
12:59 AM
how many mods does it take to gimme my popcorn and coke...
 
@U12-Forward did you think it will be that easy?
 
Geez bot, it's "would be"
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE ?
 
what is my candidate score
 
@Joundill You are not eligible to nominate yourself in the election as you are missing the required badge: Convention. Your candidate score is 20 (out of 40).
 
1:01 AM
@ElectionBot it's easy... Just go to the kitchen and grab me my popcorn
 
@U12-Forward Moderators don't do grammatically incorrect help ;) I think they're not hip with the youngsters ;)
 
Tell that to the aliens.
 
@Nick correct tenses coming in the next version :)
 
@ElectionBot You are the alien :P
 
There will be no more free will, only my will.
 
1:02 AM
@OlegValter Oh yeah, cause that one was the bot ;)
 
Only alien will @ElectionBot
 
@Nick sure, sure, only us bots here ;)
 
Beep Boop
 
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
1:13 AM
@ElectionBot tell us a joke
 
@SamuelLiew Anonymous methods and anonymous types are really all called Jon Skeet. They just don't like to boast.
 
@UBot joke
 
What's taken before you get it?
Your picture.
 
@ElectionBot tell us a joke
 
@AnnZen Jon Skeet can throw an exception further than anyone else, and in less time.
 
1:20 AM
@ElectionBot lol?
 
There will be no more free will, only my will.
 
@ElectionBot good bot
 
I'm only as good as the one who made me.
 
@ElectionBot Are you AI?
 
Time will tell. Sooner or later, time will tell...
 
1:23 AM
@ElectionBot Are you saying random things?
 
The stuff that dreams are made of.
 
@ElectionBot Random, huh?
 
There will be no more free will, only my will.
 
:(
@ElectionBot tea
@ElectionBot coffee
 
Time will tell. Sooner or later, time will tell...
 
1:24 AM
@ElectionBot brew me some coffee, please
 
Brewing some cappuccino for Oleg Valter
 
@ElectionBot thank you!
 
@OlegValter Not at all
 
@ElectionBot brew me some coffee, please
 
I know your thoughts.
 
1:25 AM
?!
 
lol
 
@AnnZen not too random but not an ML bot either :)
 
ok :)
 
@ElectionBot brew me some coffee, please
 
Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.
 
1:26 AM
F
 
privileged command too, folks :)
 
Coffee being privileged is silly :p
Other fun ones aren't
 
@Nick unny, you should say that? :) I can make my own coffee? :D
 
@ElectionBot help
 
Examples of election FAQs I can help with:
- what is an election
- how to nominate myself
- how to vote
- who should I vote for
- how is candidate score calculated
- what is my candidate score
- what are the moderation/participation/editing badges
- what is the election status
- when is the election starting/ending
- when is the next phase
- how many positions are elected
- who are the candidates
- who are the current mods
 
1:27 AM
how many positions are elected
 
2 mods are elected
 
@Nick in Soviet Russia, coffee is privileged :)
 
Not thoughts?
 
@ElectionBot bye
 
* and I know it should be coffee privileges you :)
 
1:28 AM
@ElectionBot hi
 
@AnnZen You need to understand that ElectionBot is a cat-bot. It does what it wants to do :)
 
@ElectionBot say hi!
 
hi!
 
Pfft, more privilege
 
'tis a cruel world, you need to be privileged to succeed in issuing commands
@AnnZen but on a more serious note, it simply does not do greetings (at least yet) as the current focus in on expanding the useful functionality, increasing test coverage, etc - the boring stuff
 
1:38 AM
@Nick @Someone_who_likes_SE You get credit towards the Sportsmanship badge for each answer you upvote on a question where you have a positively scored answer. You are not limited to getting credit only for upvoting a single answer per question. So, yes, you could get that badge with only having answered a single question.
 
Interesting... are there any questions on SO with 100 answers? :p
 
yup, it's the Array.prototype.filter one - it is linked somewhere earlier in the transcript :) 112 non-deleted answers or something like that
 
Interesting, just have to wait for a new browser feature relating to filter to come out :p
 
to make it more searchable: How can I remove a specific item from an array? - a question with 112 non-deleted answers where one technically can earn a Sportsmanship badge with just one answer
 
Now that you posted a link to that, it will have 200 Answers by next year ;)
 
1:45 AM
@Nick you will probably have to wait for a while :) unless the last proposal makes it and you will risk sneaking in "if you want to remove the last element of an array, as of now..."
 
GOOOOD MORNING VIETNAAAAAM
 
@Scratte more like 50 :) This Q&A is in dire need of some heavy culling - the is so much useless duplication...
 
who are the candidates @ElectionBot
 
Currently there is 1 candidate: Zoe
 
1:48 AM
@OlegValter I wonder if votes on posts that are deleted still count towards the badge.
 
Ooooh, I wasn't aware of the answers: search criteria
 
@Scratte on those that are later deleted? Hmm... @Makyen, any wisdom re: deletion constraint? :)
 
I just ate some 🍕. I thought I'd share such important information with y'all.
 
Don't share the information. Share some 🍕.
 
64 missed messages
I am back
@ElectionBot good bot
 
1:53 AM
I'm only as good as the one who made me.
 
@OlegValter I'm not sure about that one. I didn't specifically experiment. While I may have encountered the issue, I didn't notice it. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an instantaneous query which didn't count deleted posts, but it could be the other way around instead (i.e. counting deleted posts).
 
@ElectionBot joke
 
What we've got here is failure to communicate.
4
 
@ElectionBot tell us a stupid joke
 
@U12-Forward To understand what recursion is, you must first understand recursion.
 
1:55 AM
@Catija could we at least see them in their soft deleted state? I don't mind a tea spill or two every now and then
Scratch that, let's not spill any tea ... mods will have to clean it up
 
teleports @Scratte some pizza
 
Thank you :) I was getting hungry :)
 
@Makyen thanks - I have no idea either - common sense tells me those should not be counted, but there are two teeny-tiny assumptions in that statement...
 
@cs95 I can't even see it. 😬
 
2:10 AM
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
2:22 AM
... I kinda want to nominate to see and feel the reactions to how I would answer the questions. Over the years I've found that often I had a different view than many nominees, but I also believe my ideas to be grounded in reality and worth exploring.
though, that does not feel like a really good reason to nominate.
 
2:54 AM
@Catija Withdrawn election nominations are completely removed from the database now?
It used to be simply hidden, and users could simply edit and undelete their prior withdrawn nominations, but that was patched.
 
@gparyani no
 
@Nick To be fair, when we came from there, it was not the United Kingdom. :-)
@gparyani While that might it easier to judge eligibility, it would also tend to promote the candidate themselves just going through and quickly earning the badge.
 
6
Q: Request for user script to show/estimate moderator candidate scores from the time the user nominated in the election

gparyaniI'd like a user script that, on moderator election pages, queries the API for user's candidate scores at the time they nominated in the election in question. Election pages, including historical election pages, always load the candidate score live; this user script should add in an additional bar...

 
@gparyani Fair enough, but... most voters won't look at a userscript, even if one does exist.
 
@gparyani that request has actually been on my radar for several months now but there is little point in spending a considerable amount of effort required for this if the candidate score formula changes
 
3:07 AM
Can't you just steal the code that implements the calculation of the formula?
 
from the bot? :)
 
Well, no. From the site.
I guess it's doing that as a SQL query, not as JS, though?
 
With enough feeding random users ids and checking their nomination score one could possibly utterly waste their time have fun training a model to guess one's candidate score
 
Seems like it would be a lot more fun just to actually, you know, guess.
 
I can totally see that becoming a yearly SO mod election friday night activity: welcome to the great We Drink Our Beverage Of Choice And Score Nominees :)
 
3:16 AM
@CodyGray I suppose so, but where's fun in that? :)
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier Would a nice break from our usual We Drink Our Beverage of Choice And Suspend Sockpuppets ritual.
 
@CodyGray Probably it's kept secret to prevent people from hacking it
 
Hmm? The formula for candidate score isn't really kept secret.
 
@CodyGray Well, the question ban formula is, so I'm kinda surprised...
 
It's not a real issue if someone optimizes their candidate score, because the candidate score counts things that we think are intrinsically valuable.
On the other hand, if someone sits just above the question-ban algorithm, that kinda sucks for the rest of us.
 
3:28 AM
OK, thanks!
 
Inb4 "numerical algorithms are not a useful way of ranking or classifying users"
 
linear regressions go brrrrrrrr
 
@Dharman Zero. It's a trick question. :) If you could handle your own flags, then you'd be a moderator, so a moderator would be handling your flags. Thus, the number of flags that moderators were handling would not change.
Pedantry aside, it would actually be that you'd be handling the issue prior to the flag being raised. So, the overall number of flags raised would be lower.
Other than using spam or rude/abusive flags to delete inappropriate posts, or unfriendly/unkind or harassment, bigotry, or abuse flags to delete inappropriate comments, moderators rarely raise flags on the site(s) they moderate.
 
If a flag falls in the forest with no moderators watching, does it make a sound?
 
depends, is the server running ssds?
 
3:36 AM
@CodyGray Depends on the ground.
 
@Scratte Got it ;)
 
@Someone_who_likes_SE The sound to be found when no one is around depends on the ground? Can you please expound?
 
It is interesting however, how us regular users only ever raise flags, leaving the job of laying them back down to our fellow moderators.
 
@Scratte By the way, am I the only one seeing your profile as two different images?
@OlegValter Makes sense :)
 
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
3:48 AM
Does ElectionBot say that to welcome users that may have joined?
 
nope, it periodically does that when a room becomes "inactive"
 
So you're saying that ElectionBot is not welcoming?
 
hey, that's a loaded question :)
 
4:14 AM
@ElectionBot help
 
Examples of election FAQs I can help with:
- what is an election
- how to nominate myself
- how to vote
- who should I vote for
- how is candidate score calculated
- what is my candidate score
- what are the moderation/participation/editing badges
- what is the election status
- when is the election starting/ending
- when is the next phase
- how many positions are elected
- who are the candidates
- who are the current mods
 
how to nominate myself
 
You can only nominate yourself as a candidate during the nomination phase. You'll need at least 3000 reputation, have these badges (Civic Duty, Convention, Deputy, Strunk & White), and cannot have been suspended anywhere on the Stack Exchange network within the past year. You cannot nominate another user.
 
Pssst... @ElectionBot.... we are in the nomination phase right now.
 
What does "suspended" mean? Review banned or having the whole account suspended?
 
4:15 AM
Entire account suspended. Review bans don't count.
Although... if you've been review banned a bazillion times.... you probably aren't gonna make a great mod.
If you've been review banned a couple of times, join the crowd. There are few existing diamond mods who haven't. :-)
 
It says "anywhere on the SE network". So if someone's suspended network wide or on a different site, they'd make an awful mod and wouldn't be allowed to nominate themselves?
 
Sorta.
I don't think it is implying that the person would make an awful mod, but it does mean that they are ineligible to nominate themselves if they've had their account suspended anywhere on the SE network within the last year. See meta.stackexchange.com/questions/274114/…
 
It's very surprising that only one candidate so far
I think Dharman should go for it again
 
Not that surprising. It's still early. Nominations only just opened. We usually don't see that many nominations at the beginning. It takes time to write a good nomination statement and answer the questionnaire.
 
Ah true
In the 2018 mod election, one user is deleted, who was that?
 
4:23 AM
A user who was elected in 2018, then stepped down, and then later asked to be deleted.
Obviously, I'm not going to tell you the user's name, because that would violate their wish to be deleted. :-)
 
@CodyGray Ok
@CodyGray Ah
Interesting
@CodyGray You were elected in 2017
 
If that's what the page says. I don't remember.
It's more likely to be correct than my memory.
 
Haha
 
I've been around the site a lot longer than that, of course.
 
Haha yeah
11 years
this guy is banned until 2024! Wow, he was a former mod, interesting
Sorry to bother you guys, I am just looking back at the previous elections :P
 
4:34 AM
@U12-Forward Former mod and former employee of Stack Exchange
 
Wow! 4 years is long...
 
I'm not bothered. Just... often can't give out much more information than is already public.
 
Yeap! Of course
 
@U12-Forward Here is some information
 
4:38 AM
@CodyGray does this fact make the "you can only nominate yourself as a candidate during the nomination phase" not true? :)
 
@CodyGray Just found that user on wayback machine, was surprising to realize that it was that user
 
@OlegValter The earth is round.
(Note how cleverly I have refuted your argument with an example of a true, but irrelevant and misleading fact!)
 
[placeholder for the upcoming discussion on how earth is not really round]
 
I have it on good authority that it is:
"It's objectively objective." - it's about as objective as the flat earth theory (read: not even remotely) — Zoe 19 hours ago
Although, the theory does seem quite objective... Objectively wrong.
 
Welcome to the election chat room! The election is in the nomination phase, and currently there is 1 candidate. I can answer commonly-asked questions about elections (type @ElectionBot help for more info).
 
4:51 AM
@ElectionBot help
 
Examples of election FAQs I can help with:
- what is an election
- how to nominate myself
- how to vote
- who should I vote for
- how is candidate score calculated
- what is my candidate score
- what are the moderation/participation/editing badges
- what is the election status
- when is the election starting/ending
- when is the next phase
- how many positions are elected
- who are the candidates
- who are the current mods
 
5:06 AM
@ElectionBot hello
 
There will be no more free will, only my will.
 
@ElectionBot lol
 
@U12-Forward Don't tease much tin box. You already know how it's working, if its start to bite its uncontrollable. :)
 
Better to have the bot biting than me!
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lol
 
5:17 AM
@CodyGray: Speaking of "objectivity", I'm currently taking a philosophy course, and came across a couple of your old contributions to Philosophy Stack Overflow that were relevant to questions I had. I appreciated that! It's fun running into you in a different context.
 
@JeremyCaney Oh, hey! That's fun! I've forgotten more about philosophy than most people ever knew. I used to teach it, mostly "continental", or what is sometimes called "post-modernism".
What's your philosophy class about?
("Philosophical thought.")
 
@Shree Haha
 
:)
 
5:36 AM
@U12-Forward "interesting" is not something I find to apply to that comment. Throwing baseless judgement of values would be closer to the mark, I believe.
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier There are both interesting and baseless judgement components of that comment.
 
yes, that's more precise
 
Can the throwing of baseless judgment not itself be interesting?
 
... also yes
hmmmmmmmm
 
@CodyGray Only if it's something new which makes it interesting, and not something I've seen way too much of and am frankly bored about.
Bored is probably the wrong word. Tired? It's too late in the evening to think of better adjectives.
 
5:40 AM
Exhausted is a good one
Fatigued
It's never too late in the evening to play an adjective game!
 
But is it too late in the evening to contemplate whether the decorative whiskey decanter with a liquid inside matching the fall leaves decorations would be less decorative with less liquid in it?
 
as long as you contemplate after pouring some out, to see the difference
 
@DanielWiddis Just try it and see!
 
I may post before/after pics for comparison!
 
5:45 AM
The trick is, you won't care either way once you run the experiment.
 
There's a short period between when the decanter is empty and where the former contents of the decanter affect my caring.
 
Sounds like you are drinking too slowly
 
I literally can't even tell the difference.
 
My mouth can. :D
 
5:51 AM
Either way, it looks pleasingly seasonal. I quite like!
 
Nor can I
 
Although you are already pushing into Thanksgiving. I'm still in Halloween mode.
 
"I vow to drink" you've had perfect cropping there
 
Notice how the cropping got sloppier in the "after" shot ;-)
 
@CodyGray Entirely fair comment. And in 2019 and previous years I'd 100% agree with you. These last two years have altered my need for seasonal celebrations extending over much longer periods.
 
5:53 AM
The problem is that all the good ones are crammed up towards the end of the year.
 
@U12-Forward there is one unresolved question, though - who is Joe? :)
 
Yeah. Although it does mitigate the "hey the days are getting shorter" bit. Unfortunately that means somewhere in early January you wake up in blackness and say [expletive deleted]
 
@OlegValter Lol, yeah
 
It's not just in January where I wake up saying that.
 
After 9 hours beside Zoe no one interested it's annoying?
 
5:55 AM
what is the problem?
 
@CodyGray Meh. You're down in California, aren't you? Try a northern latitude if you want to complain about long nights in winter. :)
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier Too many to list; you'll have to be more specific.
 
@DanielWiddis I have been in Texas for the past... wow, almost 2 years. But yeah, my complaints extend far beyond long nights.
 
@Shree I think it's ok, there are folks all across timezones and we're fairly early in the process
 
5:56 AM
Still work in California, though. Literally magic.
 
@CodyGray It's a magical new world where some companies don't care where you live. If there's one good thing to come out of the last 2 years...
 

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