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01:31
Anyone on?
Hey @Firedrake969
What timezone are you in? You always seem to be on when I am
huh
I'm two hours before you
01:33
Where are you?
what timezone is two before EST
:P
MST
Oh, I didn't even see that
I'm usually on pretty late, so...
Northeast or Southeast?
Northeast
01:35
Near Philadelphia
What state are you in?
Ah, are you good at skiing?
not home to many big software things
Never skiied (skied?)
I'm not from there, I'm from the Northwest area
You've never skied and you live in Utah?
01:36
Wow, that's surprising
Ever been to UT?
No, I've never been that far west, I've only been east to Europe
Which country?
Germany, France, and England (we went for the olympics)
Cool, I went to Paris for a week
01:38
Yeah, Paris was very cool :)
But that's the only time I've been off the continent
I went to Ireland when I was one, but obviously I don't remember it
I've been to Vancouver BC once (that I can remember), pretty recently
Oh, cool. I don't think I've ever been to Canada
You really should go to the west coast sometime, though - very different culture from the east coast
01:41
I've always wanted to go to California
I've been there once but I don't remember it
Most of my experience was/has been in Washington and Oregon
I've lived in Pennsylvania almost my entire life; I was born in New York, but moved right after I turned one
NYC is a place I've always wanted to go to but I've never been
Have you ever been back?
Not to where I was born (Long Island), but I have been to NYC
What's it like there?
01:45
It's very cool. A lot of people, but I've always liked the city
I actually prefer Boston, but I can't stand the sports teams there :)
hah
Boston is cool. Been to MIT's campus?
I've walked near it, but never really been on it. That's one of the colleges I want to look at
Same, but your test scores have to be pretty dang good
Yeah, but I've always been pretty good at standardized tests. I had to take like 5 this year for high school scholarships
ew I hate wordpress logins
and wordpress sites
why is wordpress so slow
01:49
@michaelpri Applying next year? Best of luck, MIT's hard :) (although the campus was lovely what I stayed there for a math competition)
Haha, my dad asked me to make a Wordpress site for him once and it was the worst experience
@hexafraction No, I'm only gonna be a freshman in high school. I still have some time
sorry hexa, since your site is with Wordpress
:P
@michaelpri going for early admissions?
@Firedrake969 I haven't touched it in a while... Busy with other prokects
Oh, of course ;)
I'm also thinking about Stanford and Harvard
01:50
@Firedrake969 When will you be applying to college?
I'm also in the same situation; senior next year.
I'd rather not say
Anyone used Rust?
Haskell?
01:54
F#
Negative
any functional language
wow I will spend hours on this page...
This is a list of programming languages groups. == Array language == Array programming (also known as vector or multidimensional languages) generalize operations on scalars to apply transparently to vectors, matrices, and higher-dimensional arrays. A+ APL Chapel Fortran J Julia K Matlab Octave Python R S S-Lang SequenceL X10 ZPL IDL == Assembly languages == Assembly languages directly correspond to a machine language (see below) so machine code instructions appear in a form understandable by humans. Assembly languages lets programmers use symbolic addresses, which the assembler conver...
shakes head
what languages do you use?
Python, Ruby, Java, Front-end stuff
01:56
Front-end stuff == JS?
as in any interface that the user sees
and yeah I'm back :P
Yeah, and HTML and CSS
wb
HTML AND CSS ARE NOT LANGUAGES
That's why I grouped them all together
01:57
arguments can be made for both sides
HTML and CSS aren't turing complete
?
what do you mean
144
Q: Is CSS turing complete?

Adam DavisCSS isn't, insofar as I know, Turing complete. But my knowledge of CSS is very limited. Is CSS Turing complete? Are any of the existing draft or committees considering language features that might enable Turing completeness if it isn't right now?

Well, with user interactions it could be, I guess
@Firedrake969 I consider using HTML, CSS, and JS all together a language, but JS can be a language on its own
I don't because you list them separately :P
02:00
what does being turing complete mean
i just searched it
And their <plural-of-syntax> are so different unless you use JSX
and found something about alan turing
@DizzyCode it makes me sound smart
but that's the only part i understand
lol and it makes me feel dumb :(
just kidding
ok then I'm not sorry
02:01
@Firedrake969 How about HTCJS? ;)
JSX is a thing..
Ever used React?
How about JAVA? ;)
I'm think about making a Google Images API
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ehh, I don't think I need rule reminders, fellow bot
02:06
hi
Hi, what's up
@DemCodeLines You always need rule reminders
//choose rule reminders or nah
@DizzyCode I choose rule reminders
case settled
ok i just checked in with my old friend wikipedia on turing completeness
so basically
02:10
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any language that has some sort of if statement and involves variables is turing complete?
Hey, guys: Are iterators over something supposed to change as that something changes?
language please
Like... if I have an array, and create an iterator iterating over the entries of that array—and remove an entry from said array... does the iterator change? Or is it like... a snapshot of the array when it was created?
Well, I'm using Java now, but any language, really
ok
uh
lemme read it first...
02:12
I'm actually creating an iterator manually, but the question was just one of curiosity
I'm going to do some research right now :P
not too familiar with interfaces
@AmagicalFishy I'm pretty sure that is a no-no
@michaelpri Which is a no-no? (The iterator changing with the array, or the iterator being a snapshot of what the array was before?)
I think it depends on what type of iterator. You said array which I think is usually fine, but I think if you are trying to iterate through something like a dictionary, it is not good
@AmagicalFishy I was kinda wrong, but I was talking about the practice of it. It iterator will change with the array
@michaelpri Ah, ok. Thanks. :D
02:18
If you have a Python shell, run this for an example
x = [1,2,3,4,5]
for i in x:
    print i
    x.pop()
Ah! Excellent. I just get: 1 5 2 4 3 3 (which means the iterator's definitely changing w/ the array)
Uh, I got 1 2 3
I... don't think that's possible
(unless your pop-method doesn't return)
first, i is 1: 1 prints out, and pop takes off and returns the last entry of the array, 5
then i = 2, 2 prints out and pop returns the last entry of the array, 4
Oh, are you printing out x.pop()
oh. huh. what version of python are you using?
02:25
2.7
haha, me too
weird
Oh wait, are you running it in the Shell. I'm using an IDE
ah, yeah! i'm using gnome terminal
Oh, that makes sense
i don't know an ounce of python
but based on the research i did
02:30
It's very easy
it was my first language :v
returning 1, 5, 2, 4, 3, 3, ... seems more reasonable
how does the IDE affect that?
the IDE might not automatically print out returned statements
and instead necessitates an explicit print call
ok then
thanks
(just a guess, though; i very rarely use ides :( )
02:32
Yeah, the IDE doesn't print out returned stuff
i on the other hand rarely use the terminal
i've been spoiled by IDEs :P
i think ides are pretty cool, but i can't drop VIM :(
I want to start using Vim
dude
it's so awesome
the more i use it, the more i like it. it's just really cool
What languages do you use?
02:36
mostly python, lately a lot of java
(i'm pretty ok with html, php, and all those other web-things, too)
What kind of stuff do you do?
mostly data analysis. i'm using java so much lately because of an online algorithms class i'm taking
Cool
Would you mind telling me how old you are?
26
i coded something for the first time like... 5 or 6 years ago (i was trying to build a text game in python!)
and it kind of just took off from there
Ahh, text games in Python
Those are the best
My only good one is a Tic-Tac-Toe game
Actually in Java I built a Blackjack game
02:41
very awesome. :D creating stuff like that is an excellent way to learn coding, i think
Yeah, now I'm getting into more things that people can actually use
Like the bot
the bot?
//help
My Commands
- //image (image search term)
- //choose (choice) or (choice) [or choice...]
- //weather (city)[, country/state]
- //youtube (youtube search term)
i made a really simple guessing game that has a small window to display stuff...
02:42
That bit ^
if that counts for anything...
its about two "duelists" fighting
but in the end all the player does is guess who would win
:p
future of gaming you know
//weather boston
Weather for Boston, US
Temperature: 71.47 F / 21.93 C
High: 78.44 F / 25.8 C
Low: 64.99 F / 18.33 C
Current Condition: light intensity drizzle
hah, that's pretty cool
you're working on that now?
well i finished it
or as finished as it could be
Yeah, I posted it on StackApps too
@DizzyCode There's still stuff I can add in
02:46
lol nvm
yup
i was going to try //image bot
but I'm not going to risk another problem with safesearch
//image bot
that wasn't too bad huh :)
last year in science we were learning about this thing called a botfly
apparently its some kind of parasite that lives in the brain
and it was really disgusting
@michaelpri I have been here since the beginning of this room, although I didn't talk all that much for quite some time.
well, welcome back! :D
02:50
@DemCodeLines Oh, well hello then :)
Hey...what happened to @CCInc? Not here any more?
He hasn't been for a while
03:08
Either of you guys doing node js?
03:19
No, I'm learning Rails
03:41
no one's here
so I'm just going to throw this out there
can anyone recommend some resources for getting started with python?
tutorials, SDKs, etc.
@DizzyCode Udacity CS 101
thanks
I'm going to check that out
There's a few other Python courses there that are good too
what part of web dev is python usually used for?
back end?
front?
can it also be used for software development?
on python.org it seems like it can be used for everything
Backend usually. There's Django the web framework. And I'm pretty sure you can develop software with it
03:55
i see
You can also make games
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any one here
ooo hi
@SyedAliNaqi Hi
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any girls here?
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10:06
@bodacydo wrong place to find yourself a girlfriend
10:45
@Skynet
//alive
@Kubo2 Indeed :D
Okay
I am gonna look at your source code
//sleep
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//pause
//alive
//source
@Kubo2 Indeed :D
10:48
@Skynet, on //source you should respong this
11:10
@Kubo2 You know how to code right? Just submit a PR to add that functionality yourself.
11:55
@Unihedron Right.
 
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13:56
I'm learning python right now :P
cool beans
14:16
Codewars supports ES6 in JS now!
// cc @pro
Wait, really? Array.find doesn't seem to work
 
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16:19
@Unihedron cool!
//pull
I'm alive :) (running on commit: 0d034c7)
//source
@ProgramFOX My original source can be found on GitHub: github.com/michaelpri10/WelcomeBot
Sam
Sam
//ketchup
No sauce...
16:35
haha
I'm too lazy to look out the window
so
//weather houston
Weather for Houston, US
Temperature: 88.39 F / 31.33 C
High: 93.2 F / 34 C
Low: 84.2 F / 29 C
Current Condition: scattered clouds
Sam
Sam
lol
//weather weather
Weather for Struthers, US
Temperature: 75.22 F / 24.01 C
High: 80.6 F / 27 C
Low: 69.01 F / 20.56 C
Current Condition: broken clouds
Sam
Sam
16:36
That was unexpected.
the search algorithm sometimes gives strange results
Sam
Sam
Yeah, we found that out last night.
by that i mean the algorithm in the API
//weather Bratislava, Slovakia
//weather South Pole
16:37
Weather for Bratislava, SK
Temperature: 87.62 F / 30.9 C
High: 89.01 F / 31.67 C
Low: 86 F / 30 C
Current Condition: very heavy rain
Weather for North Pole, US
Temperature: 59.95 F / 15.53 C
High: 60.8 F / 16 C
Low: 59 F / 15 C
Current Condition: scattered clouds
Sam
Sam
//weather Pluto
Weather for Vantaa, FI
Temperature: 58.91 F / 14.95 C
High: 59.36 F / 15.2 C
Low: 57.99 F / 14.44 C
Current Condition: broken clouds
... I asked South Pole.
//weather antarctica
Weather for Antarctica, none
Temperature: -75.01 F / -59.45 C
High: -75.01 F / -59.45 C
Low: -75.01 F / -59.45 C
Current Condition: sky is clear
16:37
lol
that's slightly cold
29 °C in Bratislava at the moment
Sam
Sam
//weather Mars
Weather for Mellunkylä, FI
Temperature: 58.91 F / 14.95 C
High: 59.36 F / 15.2 C
Low: 57.99 F / 14.44 C
Current Condition: broken clouds
weather rain
wait
//weather rain
Weather for Tallinn, EE
Temperature: 57.42 F / 14.12 C
High: 57.99 F / 14.44 C
Low: 57 F / 13.89 C
Current Condition: Sky is Clear
Sam
Sam
16:38
//weather Venus
Weather for Kerava, FI
Temperature: 58.91 F / 14.95 C
High: 59.36 F / 15.2 C
Low: 57.99 F / 14.44 C
Current Condition: broken clouds
Sam
Sam
lol
//weather rainbow
Weather for Rainbow City, US
Temperature: 88.03 F / 31.13 C
High: 89.6 F / 32 C
Low: 86 F / 30 C
Current Condition: broken clouds
16:38
//weather ProgramFOX
Weather for Mounds View, US
Temperature: 80.08 F / 26.71 C
High: 82.99 F / 28.33 C
Low: 77 F / 25 C
Current Condition: overcast clouds
Sam
Sam
rofl
//weather Sam
Weather for Masala, FI
Temperature: 58.66 F / 14.81 C
High: 59.36 F / 15.2 C
Low: 57 F / 13.89 C
Current Condition: broken clouds
16:39
//weather sun
Weather for Helsinki, FI
Temperature: 58.91 F / 14.95 C
High: 59.36 F / 15.2 C
Low: 57.99 F / 14.44 C
Current Condition: broken clouds
//source
dammit this userscript always makes two slashes into one because it has commands itself
@Kubo2 My original source can be found on GitHub: github.com/michaelpri10/WelcomeBot
16:39
Yeah, it works! :D
//weather DizzyCode
Sam
Sam
//weather unihedron
@Sam Couldn't find weather info for //weather unihedron
@ProgramFOX Couldn't find weather info for //weather DizzyCode
//weather skynet
Weather for Koukkuniemi, FI
Temperature: 58.66 F / 14.81 C
High: 59.36 F / 15.2 C
Low: 57 F / 13.89 C
Current Condition: broken clouds
Sam
Sam
16:40
typical
//weather in this room
@Kubo2 Couldn't find weather info for //weather in this room
Sam
Sam
//weather uni
@Skynet oh no :-(
16:40
//weather clouds
Weather for Fownhope, GB
Temperature: 69.42 F / 20.79 C
High: 73 F / 22.78 C
Low: 66.99 F / 19.44 C
Current Condition: light rain
ok i think we're killing skynet with all the commands at once
clouds and fownhope aren't exactly similar
What about ProgramFOX and Mounds View then? xD
Sam
Sam
//choose ProgramFOX or Sam or Dizzy code
@Sam I choose Sam
Sam
Sam
16:43
Another good choice.
Sam
Sam
|○|
:/
//choose @DizzyCode or @DizzyCode
@DizzyCode I choose @DizzyCode
Sam
Sam
16:48
(removed)
\O/
|
/ \
dang it
//pull
I'm alive :) (running on commit: eba31ab)

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