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10:48 AM
@TheMaster definitely aye
@TheMaster nice answer as usual, but I am on the fence regarding the question itself - not of the highest quality to warrant FAQ in my opinion, but if we lack other candidates, it'll do, I'll try to reduce as much clutter from the question as I can. Another alternative is to craft a specific FAQ Q&A regarding user authorization
 
11:27 AM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Great. The code in the question is mostly copied from Tanaike's previous answer. Maybe we should remove the code entirely?
@Rubén aye. No objections.
 
 
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1:36 PM
@Rubén aye, the answer needs minor edits, but I'll handle it
eh, sorry, one of the answers, not the answer, wasn't talking about yours or Serge's
@TheMaster dunno about the code - let it be, I guess. I trimmed down the irrelevant parts from the question and edited it a little. Should suffice, IMO
@Rubén heh, true, it won't mind xD I am looking into a query, hopefully, I will have something that works soon. One fear I have is that SEDE is not well-suited for queries with a lot of joins (which we will have to have if "frequent" is defined as "the most linked") and, especially, with lookups that can't take advantage of indexing
 
 
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3:42 PM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Nice. About tag, I thought [protection] could be properly defined. I went ahead and edited the tag to define the scope. Also found the meta-post the burnination was not successful(or rather not even attempted). The question was ambiguity and bad tag wiki. I think I've successfully defined it without ambiguity.
Although with the current definition, it may need synonymization with
 
4:03 PM
@TheMaster not sure if it was a good idea or not as we currently are going through the backlog of burnination requests - at some point in time, there was no one to handle them, so requests date back to nearly a decade... The tag probably requires at least a disambiguation or, indeed, maybe a synonym request, though - I'll ping Zoe as to what to do with the tag next
...given that you provided it with guidance. In general, it's a vain effort to fix the scope (unless paired with renaming / synonymizing) if there is already a request to burn the tag as efforts collide
 
4:23 PM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine There wasn't a burn request though. It was clean up request. Years later, another moderator turned it into burn request, but there was no traction. Maybe I'll add a answer to that quastion.
 
4:47 PM
@TheMaster 'tis the one who basically handled everything tags before stepping down :) the tag's now in the burnination queue - I'll make sure to add to the guidance the Google Sheets part
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Thanks a lot, it will be very nice to have a query from you. I think that there is table having all the incoming links for each question but I not sure how good it is.
 
5:04 PM
@Rubén thanks :) Yeah, there is a PostLinks table, and I think it's the best bet for handling the hard part of the query, otherwise the query will have to do a text search on each matching question first - 100% with the resources SEDE allocates, such a query will simply timeout
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine I know. But if the one who handled and accelerated burn requests, failed to take any action means he considered it worthy to keep. Right? That's one way to look at it.
Well, if it burns, Let it burn. Or if it's being used anyway, might as well as have a good tag wiki and excerpt. Rather than 'Don't use'.
 
@TheMaster heh, more like there were more than a 1000 pending requests at the time :) and the rules are draconian. We are currently streamlining the process thankfully, though + adding automation. Hopefully, synonyms + renames will be next
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Indexing. How would you know, whether it's indexed?
 
@TheMaster Google likes to use "googlish" to name features ... since combining tags in a single one isn't allowed I think that it's better to use rather than [protection].
 
@Rubén Not just Google though. This is a spreadsheet specific term. Used by Microsoft as well: support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/…
 
5:15 PM
@TheMaster Oh! thanks... I had forget that (use to work with Excel a lot in the past, I still used it but avoid to use "access-control" stuff)
 
@Rubén If protection is burnt, I think a better tag would be
 
I'm worry a bit that [protection] might be a too broad tag... like
@TheMaster If we will invest time in large set of FAQ about protection in spreadsheets, IMHO the best will be to use
Actually I start liking it... I wonder how many questions might be about converting protected spreadsheets Excel < -- > Google Sheets
 
If protection is a broad tag, so is access-control. They both overlap significantly. I don't think it's a broad tag though. These tags are what I'd like to call "concept" tags. They signify a concept that are present across various languages.
 
I see no problem at this time to use [protection] together with for questions about protecting a sheet or range
 
But I'm sure, if we both dig into "what's broad", we'll never reach a consensus :) I guess it's better to leave it at that.
@Rubén Agree.
 
5:22 PM
and to use together with for questions about sharing spreadsheets
 
@Rubén Hmmm... That makes sense.
 
I think we will be talking about questions having too many good tags more soon than later
 
quick note, folks - the tag has just been pushed into the queue for burning. Once it reaches it, and it is determined that it should, indeed, be burned, all this will become part of the effort to remove it (something like can be created now to save up on correct retagging later)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Is the queue public? I already made a answer. So, it should at least delay it. There's a objection period as well right, where it'll be featured? I strongly believe it shouldn't be burnt.
 
@TheMaster yup
there is no time limit on objections either - until it is time for the decision to be made that is, of course
 
5:27 PM
Furthermore, we'll only be retagging FAQs, at extreme, it still won't cross 15 questions. So, it shouldn't be a big deal, if we were to retag in the future.
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Taking a look to meta...
 
@TheMaster queue, filled based on requests
then there is a defined process enforced by the company itself
so the discussion is, of course, part of it
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Thanks.
 
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Q: Stop using [protection]

BarettI noticed the tag protection is used for a few unrelated concepts. The main ones that stick out are: preventing edits on workbooks and documents security stuff: authorization, hacking, etc There was no tag wiki for this tag originally and there are 420 questions at present :(

 
@TheMaster normal retagging is ok anyways, it only becomes a problem when there is an active burn with low question level (borderline to even consider one), and somebody jumps the gun
 
5:32 PM
The above is old and doesn't look to meet the burnition request criteria.
 
@Rubén Right..At least a post claiming that it satisfies all the criteria should be made.
 
correct, @Rubén, if it does not reach 20 score, it will be declined
there is also a problem with 4 preliminary questions missing, but that's handleable
 
I think that there are too much "enthusiasm" to create burnination-requests but too low commitment on most of them.
 
commitment is good, but until recently we didn't have an effort to manage them, so the process got sluggish as hell
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Regarding the [burnination] protection ... seven years without making the formal request doesn't look as good commitment.
 
5:38 PM
@TheMaster this is how :) community for the win, as usual
@Rubén ah, that - who knows why it got stalled then. Maybe it got in the mix of when the company defined the process to follow in the first place - as far as I know, it used to be wild-westy in the beginning
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine Considering the current state of the burninate-request in focus, i think that we should go for using for questions about protecting sheets and ranges in Google Sheets.
 
@Rubén IMO, just keeping things as is without interference would be the best course of action depending on how it goes with further discussion. If it goes through, adding the tag will increase workload, if it does not, some sort of disambiguation is probably required first ( is an interesting parent synonym candidate)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine 👍
 
I don't remember if we already have a FAQ about how sharing + protection work together
 
@Rubén Agree 👍
 
5:46 PM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine If you mean to not start a general and extensive retagging effort before having a good progress on having good FAQs around Google Apps Script and the related tags, I agree.
There are 589 questions [google-sheets]protection. It might be worthy to find at least one FAQ for
 

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