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00:57
weird. stackoverflow.com/q/75144541/11107541 linked questions section shows another post but the only connection I can see between them is a comment of mine comment under a deleted answer.
@CodyGray given the bit about 15px, I assumed it was a joke somewhere in the genre where you also find tilted comments on r/mildlyinfurating (if you scroll down a lot)
on the topic of jokes, I'm mad that nobody bit on my fkey avatar proposal.
maybe I should have said the function was reversible
01:19
@starball 15px? Are you sure you're tracing the reply history back correctly? I was talking about VLAZ's proposal to reorder the vote buttons, as shown in the MS Paint screenshot. I don't see anything about 15px there...
I do see the tilted comments there. But I don't know what the joke is.
@starball Yes, your comment under a deleted answer linked to that question. That explains why that linked question shows up under the "Linked [questions]" section, doesn't it?
@starball I'm sure it was clever, but I only read a few messages back in the transcript. :-)
01:40
yesterday, by VLAZ
@starball You know, what my intention was after I got left/right. voting to work was to also just move the post left or right. Just 15px or so - to make it noticeable. But that's it, nothing else than just moving a post a bit.
@CodyGray my intuition expected the link to be ignored for that given that it's not visible unless you have 10k
@CodyGray oh it was the opposite of clever. also, drat. I got missed from being noticed by one message up in the transcript
02:34
@starball What is the opposite of clever, I wonder?
@starball Hmm, no, the system is not nearly that smart. If it were, it would create new problems: Would it show up as a "Linked" question for users who do have privileges to see the deleted answer, yet not for users under 10k? Or would it be not be linked for anyone? "Linked" is mostly a history of anything that has ever been linked.
At least at some point in the past (not sure if it is still true today), questions in the "Linked" list could actually be themselves deleted, yet would still show up there.
@starball Ahh, thanks! I'd missed that message. Well, I guess more accurately I saw it but kind of ignored it because I didn't understand what it meant.
03:04
en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/attributes/… ... weird. I'd have thought that a compiler could just... assume that if an assertion didn't fail, the condition could then be assumed be true for following code paths.
@CodyGray if it's a reversible one-to-one function, it would expose everyone's fkeys.
@CodyGray I'd have made it just not show up in the linked section. that last sentence is news to me.
@CodyGray this is also news to me!
04:00
@starball I mean... we've had much worse "features" officially built into the site.
@starball What you linked is not an assertion. It is a directive that gives the code-generator additional information that it could not glean from the code directly which it can use to optimize the generated code. For example, if you know that an index passed into a function parameter can never be zero, then you can write that as an assume attribute, and the code-gen may be able to elide some code that it would normally emit to check or make a loop more optimal or whatever.
So, it (can) fundamentally change how the code is generated. And the whole point of doing this is to get better (more optimal) code. If it generated all the cases just in case what it was told to assume is false, that would defeat the whole point.
Not sure if that was clear. Wrote that while trying to listen to other stuff. :-)
04:33
@CodyGray no it makes sense. I think I understood it already before. I just realized now that I misunderstood the linked code snippet. I forgot that the assumption annotation is still meaningful regardless of the value of NDEBUG, whereas assert cares about it.
I actually have a macro in my project that does assertions for debug builds and assumptions for release- to the same/similar effect of what the linked code snippet does
I'm now thinking about how I want to get bits of perf back when I eventually can switch to c++26 and there's the uninitialized variable/parameter changes. I considered starting to use [[indeterminate]] in strategic places, but maybe I'll just wait and see if gcc, clang, and msvc add compiler options to opt out of that new behaviour, and add that compiler option for release builds
05:06
@starball I was tempted to state that the user ID would probably be enough if you wanted to do that.
05:44
@AbdulAzizBarkat userid isn't a credential
I meant that the user ID could be used for the mapping instead of fkey since it would be more safe. Although you already know this
06:25
@CodyGray Inspired by some stupid off-hand comment I made in some chatroom but I can't find any more which suggested the fix for people complaining about up/down voting is to switch to left/right voting.
07:01
Can someone check if the tag gets abused much? I found three undeleted, un-retagged questions that use it as a meta tag (1 2 3), but I'm not sure how bad the problem is.
07:20
@Anerdw IMO regardless of whether it is misused it should at least be renamed, just "solution" is somewhat ambiguous. It should probably have some prefix along with that.
@AbdulAzizBarkat I'll write up a retag request on Meta then.
07:42
@AbdulAzizBarkat that it wasn't safe was the joke :P
@VLAZ what about in/out voting?
or go 4D!
@Anerdw I've gone through the usages in the past and removed the ones that didn't fit. However, there is so many, that I had to use a query that excludes anything that has solutions:
[solution] -[c#] -[.net] -[visual-studio] -[nuget] -[visual-studio-code] -[visual-studio-2010] -[visual-studio-2012] -[visual-studio-2015] -[visual-studio-2013] -[visual-studio-2008] -[visual-studio-2017] -[visual-studio-2019] -[visual-studio-2022] -[visual-studio-2005] -[visual-studio-debugging] -[visual-studio-extensions] -[visual-studio-cordova] -[visual-studio-lightswitch] -[visual-studio-mac] -[visual-studio-app-center] -[visual-studio-express] -[visual-studio-addins]
-[visual-studio-2003] -[asp.net] -[msbuild] -[csproj] -[sharepoint] -[vb.net] -[ssis] -[dynamics-crm] -[dynamics-crm-2011] -[dynamics-crm-2013] -[dynamics-365] -[dynamics-ax-2012] -[dynamics-crm-online] ns] -[dynamics-ax-2012-r2] -[dynamics-crm-webapi] -[dynamics-ax-2012-r3] -[dynamics-gp] -[dynamics-al] -[dynamics-crm-portals]
-[.net] -[.net-core] -[.net-4.0] -[.net-6.0] -[.net-3.5] -[.net-4.5] -[.net-assembly] -[.net-5] -[.net-2.0] -[.net-8.0] -[.net-standard] -[.net-7.0] -[.net-4.8] -[.net-framework-version] -[.net-core-3.1] -[.net-standard-2.0] -[.net-core-3.0] -[maui] -[.net-4.6] -[.net-1.1] -[monodevelop] -[tfs] -[xamarin-studio]
3 messages for the entire query
...wow
thanks
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Q: Is there a [solution] to this problem?

AnerdwThe solution tag refers to an application organizing structure in Visual Studio. From its excerpt: A solution (.sln file) is a structure for organizing projects in Visual Studio. It groups one or more projects that work together to create an application. However, the name "solution" is really a...

@VLAZ You brought it down to 667 from, what, 1500? 1300? That's...substantial
08:15
GIVE ME BACK DOWNVOTES IN DISCUSSIONS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@starball For downvotes, the exclamation is "VVVVVVVVVVVV"
08:28
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Q: Where is the reason of deletion?

AmerllicAJust 2 days ago my post got deleted by one of the moderators. I remember that previously the reason for the cleanup was stated at the bottom of the post. I haven't got any objection, I only want to know why it got deleted. My answer:

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10:27
stackoverflow.com/beta/discussions/79238102/79250757 wonder if that breaks chat as well
Iä Ia, Zalgo fhtagn!
 
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Q: Why has my trickle of rep dried up, starting October 2024?

Mark MeuerOver the many years I've been on Stack Overflow I've seen the pattern where I get a steady trickle of reputation (generally on the order of 10-30 points a month) for upvotes on my answers. But in the past 2 months that has completely stopped, and I'm just curious why. Has there been a change in ...

 
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Q: In Mudblazor Inside the MudTable grouping I cant able to fix the Header for ChildRowContent?

Elsa Nhttps://try.mudblazor.com/snippet/GaQybmaSfRnxwgaA In this inside the Grouping i haven given ChildRowContent. here the header is not properly assigned for ChildRowContent. i have attached the code snippet

 
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17:05
@starball Yes, that comment there in the code snippet is very misleading in how it is worded. I can see how you misunderstood that.
@starball Makes sense, but also kinda dangerous.
@starball Wow, is C++26 already upon us? I haven't even looked into what's new there, so I have no clue what you're talking about. :-) I haven't even migrated to C++23 yet. Still on C++17 or C++20, depending on which compiler(s) are used for the project. A quick look suggests I probably won't be moving to C++26 any time soon, regardless of what I might want, because MSVC has no support for it (save a few standard library features).
@CodyGray it's a sudoku program, so nobody dies :D
Hahaha. I see.
@CodyGray I've listened to some herb sutter talks. he says compiler vendors don't implement everything "in order" (definitely true, and also true in analogous ways outside the world of C++ like JS engines), so some stuff from 26 is already implemented.
@starball Or purple/orange voting!
@starball Right, of course. It's not all-or-nothing. But there are matrices that report which features/aspects of the standard are supported by each compiler.
@CodyGray oh my!
@CodyGray yep. I usually refer to en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/compiler_support
17:11
@VLAZ The proper usage of should probably be .
@starball Yes, and so you immediately see the problem I was referencing.
@CodyGray I'm not familiar enough with the workings of Visual Studio .sln files to say for sure but it seems from the Meta question's answer that there are a fair amount of Visual Studio .sln-specific questions that could crop up... I'm not sure a generic tag for all solution file types by all IDEs is sufficient, let alone one that also mixes in projects (which are their own entity level and file, for Visual Studio and possibly other IDEs)
@CodyGray yeah my project is also on c++20. there are some tiny c++23 features I'm eyeing though. I'll be waiting for compiler support first. nobody uses my project but me, so I don't have to worry about people when picking what compilers to support :)
And I know if I were trying to debug an issue with a VS .sln file I would probably not think to look for a tag named , at least, since that is pretty generic.
17:38
@TylerH wow I'm kinda surprised to see the history here. I followed the post just to see if anyone would vote to delete it in review (I didn't think it should be deleted). I only noticed it got deleted after I got a notification about your edit.
@TylerH But, then it should be a tag like , rather than just the generic name , which could have a plethora of meanings.
17:58
It would help if people thought at all about what tag to apply. Not because their question is basic and because they need a solution.
I'm open to renaming it. I'm not even convinced it's used correctly right now. I just avoided looking at stuff like Microsoft Dynamics (and Dynamics 365 which might even be different) because I've not clue what it is. But a fair amount of question about that tech also use "solution" in their body and the tags.
As in, I think those don't have solution files. But do organise into solutions.
18:16
they're probably mixtures moreso than solutions
18:48
@VLAZ who's to say that such tags aren't the result of seriously thinking about it? Or at least, spending a considerable period of time believing that one is thinking. It's awfully hard to "think" without a framework.
19:14
@TylerH My understanding of is that it was specific to Visual Studio, but after looking again, I don't see that in the tag wiki, so I'm not sure what I was thinking of. Having a VS-specific tag that groups projects and solutions together is, in my opinion, totally reasonable, because while projects and solutions are their own entity, questions about them are going to be interrelated.
19:34
@VLAZ or if they need a
19:59
baking soda and water is probably easiest in that case
Heh. I was about to make the same joke.
20:42
@starball I'm glad this tag doesn't exiyst. But also a tiny bit disappointed because I expected it when you used it here.
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Q: Is there currently an issue with the Staging Ground page?

digital.aaronI'm trying to reach the Staging Ground landing page to review posts, but every time I hit the "Staging Ground" button on the left-hand menu, I get the "Oops! Something bad happened." catch-all error page. Is anyone else experiencing the same?

@VLAZ I should have put a disappointment warning
20:58
@NewPosts There are myriad issues with the Staging Ground page(s).
@starball what surprised you, in particular?
@Makyen yes, I definitely agree with this; by itself is completely inadequate for its currently described use

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