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Q: Why am I blocked from asking questions when none of my questions have a negative score?

polcottA modererator: [Samuel Liew] replied to my deleted question so I had to create it again because I never got an answer and I cannot comment on the deleted question. Why am I blocked from asking questions when none of my questions have a negative score? I created a question. It got a down vote and ...

 
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05:11
@SNBS It is allowed to post answers that you wrote yourselves and asked ChatGPT or anyone else for that matter to validate, as long as it is not breaking any other rules. Not that we have anything that can detect if you've asked someone / something to validate your answer anyway ;)
Since we are talking about it, ChatGPT cannot reliably tell you whether your idea / answer is correct, since it does not really have logic as such. If you are sure of yourself and can validate your answer on your own, for example by running code / referencing documentation, I'd say go ahead and post your answer.
 
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07:17
> The Uncommented Downvote Ninja has struck again.
Thanks, Downvote Ninja!
 
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12:08
> Give me back my upvote @____, you're obviously wrong. You didnt even want me to thanks anyone who reads, what kind of behaviour is that?
Yuck yuck yuck
 
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14:39
what is it about this site in particular that drives people to be so vicious about votes
and why are we 14 years in without a fix for it
Maybe what we need is an LLM to fix it.
Is there a fix for people being "Toxic" about someone thinking their content isn't useful/helpful?
IMO, the problem isn't the site, it's Human Beings.
This is why YouTube, for example, hides the downvotes.
Which is great, because now you can't see what content is bad. Wait a minute...
@ThomA If we had that we'd have world peace
@ThomA Most online forums I've seen which have some sort of up/down voting system eventually attract users who complain about them. It's inevitable.
Which is my point.
14:42
Or wanting the benefits of the platform and its quality, without 'them' being affected by the system that keeps it high quality
Mind you, I'm talking about ones which have no actual advantage, neither disadvantage to up/downvotes. SO ties site privileges to this.
@ThomA Yes. I was just supporting it.
@VLAZ-onstrike- No one ever likes to be told they're wrong
@JourneymanGeekOnStrike Yep. Some forums have had only an upvote. Similar to Facebook. Which then gives rise to complaints "But why does <other user> have more upvotes than me!"
No one likes other people being more right then them :D
Forget upvotes and downvotes, we need an AI that set the score of a post automatically based on its content!
14:46
(I mean, I don't mind, sometimes there's a certain beauty in losing gracefully :D)
OK, in my experience it's rarer than complaints about negative votes. But still there are complaints.
@AndrewT. VoteGPT
> Linking to a pubic resource where Prof. Sipser [...]
No we do not want why would you do this
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Q: JS BigInt — stack snippet console.log(1n) logs nothing; console.log([1n]) logs [null]

Lionel Rowe1n is a bigint literal in JavaScript. Bigints currently display incorrectly in the stack snippet console. Example: console.log(1n) // logs nothing console.log([1n]) // logs [null]

16:39
Related: Stack Snippets Console can't output ES6 data types | JS Bigints are an ES2020 feature, and Snippets don't even properly support all ES6 types yet, unfortunately. Snippets could really use some love. — zcoop98 7 mins ago
@E_net4isonstrike definitely don't want any pubic resources anywhere near Stack Overflow, pls and thank you
OK, hear me out - we use an LLM
I'm not sure how it would help but I'd love to see how SE will make it even worse.
16:52
@tripleee I also contributed to this, but I really wish you hadn't brought up the question about the halting problem. That guy is a known crank
@KevinB Everywhere with votes has the potential to be vicious about them, but we're unique in tying them to a 1-dimensional privilege system.
@VLAZ-onstrike- I for one welcome our new robot-selected overlords.
17:05
@TylerH That would be privates information.
the guy really needs to be actually suspended, though. like, indefinitely.
You mean halted?
17:25
... Indeed.
i do think there's a way to solve the "toxicity" problem, but i haven't seen much interest in anything being done about it that would actually matter
it'd require the company to make a larger commitment to removing not useful content even when it's answered
18:30
I would prefer that it couldn't get answered in the first place, frankly.
19:30
i'd prefer they get answered, allowing the site to be the helpdesk people seem to want it to be while removing everything that doesn't rise to the level of "knowlegebase of high quality, useful questions and answers" within a reasonable amount of time.
preventing things from being answered is only a thing because answers prevent deletion.
 
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20:43
the search you show there covers much newer things; and when I go year by year to find the oldest, I find it's generally stuff that was either closed as a duplicate or merged
yeah i modified it to be more open, and forgot to omit notices
this is much less productive for example: stackoverflow.com/…
still has duplicates
curiously, there are more such questions from 2020 than 2021...
actually the per-year numbers are still quite high back to 2014 before a sudden drop-off beyond that.
my typical filter to just jquery gets me 8209, it's been dropping pretty steadily. When i first put that filter together it was over 10k
i assume they're getting downvotes here and there
21:11
@AbdulAzizBarkat Thank you! In fact, if I use any AI when crafting an answer I usually mention that explicitly. What about "ChatGPT has no logic" — yes. It's better to use a tool like perplexity.ai which gets info from Internet: it asks ChatGPT for several search queries (that should give the information the user asks for), sends them to Google and Bing and then ChatGPT retells the contents of the most relevant results. I only remember one case when it told a lie. Not an advert ;)
As far as I know, ChatGPT only uses its training data and not search engines, that's why it often tells lies, and it's in fact the reason why it was banned I think
it doesn't matter where you gained your knowledge from
Yeah, that's what I initially wanted to ensure
if you write the answer yourself, using your own knowledge, regardless of how you learned these things, whether it be an ai or the official docs of a tool/language, there's nothing wrong there
the result should be indistinguishable from no ai involvement whatsoever
But how can an AI-written answer be detected, just curious
there's a lot of "gut feeling" to detecting AI
:shrug:
there's too many obscure, minor, things that lead toward thinking something is AI written to list them all, but one that I see often is repeating the question.
"To foo the bar, you just need to do x y and z"
and then after the code snippet for "do x y and z" there'll be an explanation "In the code above, we foo'd the bar by doing x, then we did y, then we did z"
21:22
Oh yes, that's what all GPTs suffer from
it's also relatively easy to fool some users by editing the generated content to introduce errors
people will quickly assume that a misplaced period space or comma is proof it isn't AI
Hahaha
> In this code, the split_text function takes two parameters: text (the input text to be split) and quantity (the desired number of lines in each split).

The function first splits the text into lines using the split('\n') method, which creates a list of lines. Then, it creates a new list split_lines using a list comprehension. This list comprehension splits the lines into groups of the specified quantity using slicing.

Finally, the function returns the split_lines list, which contains the split text.
literally noone explains five lines of code in that much detail as an answer on SO
Yep. People just provide a code snippet without any further explanation ;) Which is not so good as well
21:52
Ehhhh there are people that do but it's a sign of AI generation for sure.
Keep in mind that curators see disproportionate amounts of lower-quality content.
^ i'm far more likely to click into a question that based on it's title is likely to be a question that needs work... rather than a question that is probably fine
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Q: Does R hold itself to lower standards?

M--ßţřịƙïñĝRecently, there has been a discussion about a review audit which involved an R question: Audit failed: why? Reason was not given From the body of that post on Meta Stack Overflow: Very black and white: as a newbie reviewer I could (temporarily) lose my reviewing privileges because r is holding i...


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