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Q: There should be a "snooze" button for items in the inbox

gregn3There should be a "snooze" button for items in the inbox. If I view an item, it becomes marked as read automatically, but I may want to be remindend of it again later. The snooze button would mark it as unread.

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Q: Is there automatic reopen after 4 reopen votes?

BobtroopoI asked a question a couple days ago that wasn't so clear to understand so it was closed. After editing it, my question still has only gotten 4 reopen votes, and this question is furthermore, activating a question ban on my account. Is there a set number of days, for which after, if you get 4 r...

 
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Q: when to encode data

potato studentI just learned that before processing the data its needed to handle categorical data , but i found out that not all data needed to be encode, what i caught is you only encode categorical features but you do not encode categorical label. did i misunderstand what i learned? if we are applying diffe...

 
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Morning o/
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Q: Is it proper to say something to beseech for "don't downvote"?

Akuta HinakoIs it proper to say something like "I am a new comer || my rep is low -> please do me a favor & consider not vote down to my question, I will improve immediately if u tell me my problem, thanks a lot :) " When asking question?

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Not foggy morning, for once o/
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Q: Why didn't Google find this question & answer?

Gert ArnoldMy (somewhat simplified) routine when I encounter a programming problem I can't seem to solve myself: Search for related words in Google. Stack Overflow pages appear in the top regions of the first page. Pick one or two. Problem solved. I was surprised to see this routine fail when I ran into...

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Q: Help updates to match recent close update

arntIt seems to me that if the goal of the close text is to improve the questions to the point where they can be answered and benefit the site, then the help texts could be improved. Example: How to do statistical analysis that include 2 levels of repeatedness in R? The asker understands that SO is...

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Q: Page not found for newly requested Teams Basic product

nlsdfnbchWe've freshly requested a SO for Teams instance to give it a spin in our workflow. I have received a registration email and completed the registration process. The url shown during registration was stackoverflow.com/c/raiden -However, trying to access the instance yields a 404 :( . Do I need to...

 
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Q: not being able to say thanks

thanosdidnothingwrongI am so incredibly thankful for this community, this has literally changed my life. I wouldn't be able to chase my passion without you guys, I feel like a thank you is in order everytime. How can I let the person know that I am grateful, apart from just marking their comment as an answer?

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posted on November 13, 2019 by Konrad Rudolph

The “Ask question wizard” prototype was, in a word, brilliant. Unfortunately it seems to have gone to meet its makers, and in its place we’re left with a redirect to a slightly revamped but otherwise distinctly non-magical question asking UI. Is the wizard/guided mode really gone for good? I was unable to find a relevant announcement. At any rate that would be a sha

 
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Q: Why is the luminosity of my windows computer not 100% even if I set it 100%?

Gugu72--> When my PC is plugged, the luminosity is 100% (with a set of 100%) --> But when I unplug it, the luminosity downs, even if the setup isn't modified (checked that it's 100%, it is) So why is the luminosity different?

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Q: Exercise for Practicing in Haskell

Yoni MelkiI started to learn Haskell at school and my teacher don't give us exercises. Everyone know that the best way to learn is to practice again and again and again. I tried to find exercise on Google but I didn't found. anyone who can help me with a link or a book of exercises ? Thank you very much

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posted on November 13, 2019 by Temani Afif

Here is the question: CSS: Ellipse clipping mask on bottom only? It sounds a bit strange when you read it but if you check the revisions and the deleted answers you can clearly see what is going on. For users who cannot see the deleted answers, each attempt was a single answer (so a total of 6 answers from the same user). I am pretty convinced that the moderator d

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Q: SE API is randomly responding with "site is required" errors

MakyenA bit ago, the SE API started randomly responding with site is required errors. I've see in in: We're seeing quite a few of these on SmokeDetector, which reports such errors into Charcoal HQ. I've seen this as a response when making a request on the SE API page, which showed a response of: { ...

 
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my most downvoted question is now going to give me 16 rep rather than removing 36 rep
it's -33
posted on November 13, 2019 by tobeypeters

I believe it would be beneficial to make users give a brief reason why they are downvoting a question or especially an answer someone posts. People on this site are Downvote crazy. Lots of times, sadly, it's because they posted an answer and think it's better than everyone elses or they simply say to themselves, "That's not how I do it." I AM NOT, trying to be ne

Change in rep earned by question upvotes, being applied retroactively: stackoverflow.blog/2019/11/13/…
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I don't even object to the policy change in and of itself, but as usual, Sara has made what can only be a deliberate effort to make it as big a "fuck you" to the community as she can manage:
* Unilateral action without prior discussion
* Patronising suggestion that it's so "hard" for askers to be "on the other side of that keyboard"
* Declaration that the people who hadn't earned privileges before, but will have them now, are THE "question experts", meaning that the rest of us are not
* Zero mention of, let alone actual engagement with, the arguments for having things the old way
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Thanks for putting in words what I found so off-putting about this... @MarkAmery
At least this time it wasn't on a Friday or just before a holiday.
Was it discussed with/proposed to diamond Mods ?
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Q: When is the recalculation update?

brooksrelytWhen is the recalculation update listed below? https://stackoverflow.blog/2019/11/13/were-rewarding-the-question-askers/

@CindyMeister Other things that I find enraging: the cheerful 'hooray! let's celebrate' bullshit when we're in the midst of an ongoing crisis and Monica's life is being wrecked, and the claim that this is a place 'where everyone can thrive' after Sara has passed rules discriminating against various religious groups and trans people.
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I rather suspect that she knows precisely the impact those choices of phrasing will have on those she's hurt
@Selaron yes
@KevinB Source?
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One such mod (presumably a mod anyway) leaked it to meta last week
Sad, really, the amount of damage one person can do to so many lives in such a short amount of time. It more than negates all the positive people like Shog and Tim have put into relations with established site users.
@KevinB I presume you mean SE Meta? Would you have a link for that?
@Selaron Yes. I had my reservations about the proposed change initially, but I have to say that the CMs were extremely receptive to feedback and they did their absolute best to include moderators in the process. On balance, this was well-executed.
@CodyGray I'm going to hazard a guess that the mods and non-Sara CMs didn't get any input into the blog post?
I personally would have written Sara's blog post a bit differently, in particular, devoting a bit more words to explaining the problems with the old Jeff Atwood solution of reducing question scores ("optimizing for pearls, not sand"). There was actually research and investigations done by competent, trustworthy people, which found that the reduction of reputation from questions was not having the desired effect of increasing question quality.
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@CodyGray Thanks for chiming in :-) My feelings are mixed. I can't decide whether it's because I'm resistant to change, whether it's the source or maybe not a good idea :-)
@MarkAmery No, not directly. We were kinda involved in the presentation of the news, but we did not even see a draft of the blog post before it was published.
@CindyMeister no, but i do have a local copy of the way back entry for it. i'm not going to share that over an SO/SE channel though.
@KevinB If I search SE Meta can I find it, or was it removed? If I could find it, could you at least provide a date span where I should look?
@CindyMeister Yes, I was in the same boat. Jeff Atwood told me years ago that I needed to read, "Who moved my cheese?", because I was always complaining about changes he made. So I'm cognizant of my natural avoidance of change. I also strongly believe in optimizing for pearls, not swine sand, and was a bit leery of the potentially massive rep inflation, and its concomitant effect on user privileges. But there are some good, reasoned arguments in favor of this change, too.
Wait, in this post https://stackoverflow.blog/2019/11/13/were-rewarding-the-question-askers/ "we made are increasing the number of questions getting posted on Stack Overflow, without decreasing the quality"
But the original post: https://stackoverflow.blog/2019/11/12/research-update-a-b-testing-the-new-question-form/ shows that even after trying to control quality, the changes created more questions with a statistically significant *decrease* in quality.

Isn't that just a lie in the recent post?
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@CindyMeister It was removed from MSE, but not before it was Reddited. Best not to dig up the past, mmkay?
@CindyMeister it was deleted and redacted
@CodyGray "was not having the desired effect of increasing question quality" - I'd question whether this was the desired effect, and certainly question whether it was the most important possible positive effect. There are several other possible justifications, like making displayed rep better track total value of a user's contributions, or not thinking questions provide as strong a signal that a user can be trusted with privileges
I get that SO wants to improve the question asking experience because they see asking as a better pipeline for new users than answering, but you can't increase volume and maintain quality. And being disingenuous about the attempt to do so is disrespectful to the community.
@CodyGray / @KevingB OK. I'm not interested in "theater". I would like to see a discussion of pros and cons, which I was hoping the SE Meta discussion would have contained. But apparently not :-)
yeah, no, it contained no such thing
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@CindyMeister No, it definitely did not. It was just a leak of the internal memo presented to moderators. And unfortunately done in the style of a less-reputable "shock-and-awe" news organization.
I'm planning to post an announcement question to MSO later, hopefully with a bit more nuanced discussion of the rationale. That'll also give folks a place to weigh in with their feedback.
...or, well, looks like someone just beat me to it.
@CodyGray That would be very much appreciated. TIA!!
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Q: What was the context of the decision to lower the value of upvotes to a question?

zero298The the blog post We’re Rewarding the Question Askers it is stated that: Here’s the history: When Stack Overflow launched in 2007, we gave equal points to upvotes on answers and questions. Three years later, a decision was made to devalue upvote reputation on questions. The idea was th...

Blame caching?
I literally opened Meta in a new tab to click "Ask Question", and I saw it got posted 90 seconds ago. In the asker's defense, it is a reasonable, level-headed question.
And it's actually not quite the same thing, now that I read more carefully. He's asking more about the rationale of lowering question net rep, not raising it.
Go for it, @CodyGray :-)
@MarkAmery Yes there was a leak posted on reddit 8 days ago, not sure if it's ok to poste the link here
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it's not
Well, when I think about it, it could be(come?) worse: "They" could decide to remove rep when DV questions, analogue to what happens with answers... That would impact quality more heavily than more rep to good questions.
@KevinB k
changing rep values doesn't impact quality until it changes who can and cannot post
this change may change that if it pushes people above the rep threshold that makes the question ban less strict? assuming it still has some rep thresholds that dictate how it is applied
It could, conceivably, change voting behavior. I'm not generous with upvotes, but I might get even more stingy if I know it's going to have an even larger effect. OTOH it could help some people get the comment privilege sooner. That could help with the NAN and LQ queues.
@Selaron I would strongly prefer that you didn't. Best not to dig up the past, mmkay?
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and of course getting people to those queues sooner in some cases
but i suspect any gain there will only be temporary
it's not increasing the rate of people entering, it's just bumping some people up to it who weren't already there
@CodyGray yep :)
Perhaps this is the solution to the mass mod resignations. Everyone who's spammed mediocre questions gets pushed to 10k rep, and then we'll have all the pseudo-mods in the world.
@ConspicuousCompiler We have lots of 10k rep users already. That isn't anywhere near enough to eliminate the need for moderators. Please don't make ridiculous arguments.
From a link to the older discussion (move from 10 to 5 rep on Qs): "There are a few users who ask hundreds, sometimes even thousands of questions. Over time, these users generate a fairly sizable reputation entirely through the tiny trickle of upvotes gained by these questions. In a sense, we want to discourage question asking a little bit, and make sure that people who ask questions are doing it for the right reasons and not to generate reputation."
those people are quite rare
but i've defninitely seen a few with thousands of questions that are generally poorly received
they however get by with the one or two every now and then that does well
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This is a valid point, even now, seems to me.
maybe people will use downvotes more now.
People are already incentivized to ask questions rather than search for existing dups because it's lower effort and often results in a more direct answer to their query. I don't think the slow trickle effect is anywhere near as compelling.
^^Another good point.
But giving people any additional reason to not search before asking seems categorically bad.
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yea no downvoting is still looked at by new users as not necessary, evil even.
This doesn't really give people any additional reason not to search. We already had every conceivable incentive to ask first, search later.
Perhaps this is a compromise in some people's opinion to allowing DV to remain?
And remember that downvotes on questions are still free.
i don't expect this change to have any real impact
@CodyGray YES!
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other than ill-will from people who see it as yet again optimizing for people asking lazy questions.
Downvoting after reading a bad Q is rep-free, but it's still time-consuming.
@KevinB Agreed. Biggest impact is gonna be a bunch of users gaining new privileges.
@ConspicuousCompiler So the appropriate solution would be figuring out a way to block low-quality questions from ever entering the system, not to rearrange the deck chairs on the Titanic after the fact.
@CodyGray For whatever it's worth, I disagree. I don't think anything the company can produce on a reasonable timeline will be an adequate substitute for human review. I already get caught by the quality filter from time to time and have to make some meaningless change to placate it, despite being a user who - if votes can be trusted - has apparently never asked a bad question in his life. I'm not enthusiastic about more robo-filters; they'll inevitably make the nuisance worse.
I had a friend who I generally think of as a good person once express to me that they never searched for their answers on SO before asking because "What harm could my one question do? If it's bad, people can just ignore it." They were unswayed by my tragedy of the commons response because they view SO as a resource, not a community of people whose goodwill they're taking advantage of.
@MarkAmery That's a fair point. I think I'm a bit bigger fan of robo-filters than you are, but my comment wasn't necessarily limiting itself to the type of blocks you're thinking of. If you recall, Shog and others have proposed various ways of blocking new, low-quality questions from entering the system, such as a forced review period, having questions get posted in a "hidden" state, etc.
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Rep is one of the very few sticks available to discourage bad behavior by people who aren't personally invested in the community because magic Internet points somehow automatically have weight with most people.
@ConspicuousCompiler Sure. That's why I'm a big fan of downvotes on questions being free. But I don't really see how increasing the weight of an upvote is going to make much of a difference. The hypothetical users to whom you're referring were already netting +5 reputation each time they lazily asked a new, unresearched question.
@CodyGray Hmm. Fair enough. I guess it could be useful to systematically expose questions to human review before they're publicly visible and thereby reduce the total amount of human labour spent weeding out bad questions, even if the judgements are still ultimately being made by meat and not silicon.
IMO better well-asked duplicates than "give me the codez" questions...
The larger point is, low-quality questions suck. But I have yet to be convinced that giving people more rep for upvotes is going to have any effect on that.
Figuring out how to reduce low-quality questions is an intractable problem. Various things have been tried, and there are various ideas of more things to try. We should keep trying. But we should not hold out hope for a panacea.
The people asking the "give meh teh codez" questions are usually the ones desperate for an answer, not the ones farming reputation.
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and now they'll more quickly reach the bounty threshold, and bounties will be more rewarding to the asker
For people who primarily ask, they'll presumably be able to post twice as many bounties
if not more, due to the fact that bounties generally increase the number of upvotes questions receive.
Time to become a thrall to the vampires.
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Q: The question upvote weight is being doubled, will the downvote weight be doubled too?

wimRe: We're rewarding the question askers. I don't mind the change, but we should be rewarding good question askers, not just any question askers. If the downvote weight doesn't also double then this change will be more strongly incentivizing posting poor questions. Will the rep cost for having y...

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Q: Upvotes on questions will now be worth the same as upvotes on answers

Cody GrayThose of you who suffer from banner blindness may not have noticed the announcement: Stack Overflow is changing the reputation scoring system to make the reputation earned from upvotes on questions equal to the reputation earned from upvotes on answers. Previously, upvotes on questions netted yo...

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Q: Will raising upvotes on questions lessen the impact of downvotes to questions

GooseBecause a downvote to a question is presumably staying at -2, and upvotes to questions are increasing from 5 to 10, this will mean that the quality of a question needed to get net positive reputation goes from 1 upvotes/2.5 downvotes to 1 upvotes/5 downvotes, is this correct? Perhaps I am making ...

 
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Q: How can I calculate how much reputation I gained from the rep change?

JL2210I recently saw the effects of the reputation change on question upvotes. I know I went somewhere from roughly 6.4k to 7.5k, but it would be nice to have the exact number. How do I calculate that?

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Q: Top answer is not relevant anymore

mplungjanAccepted answer has 200 plus points but a more relevant and newer answer is the latest How to add onload event to a div element? The person answering had asked the same and had it closed and marked as dupe of mentioned answer and decided to find a better solution. How do we get the newest answ...

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Q: Mismatch with reputations

DanielIs anyone else experiencing that reputations keep shifting on you as you move from page to page or stack exchange forum to the next?

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Q: My reputation changed abruptly but positively?

machine_1I am pretty sure I was at 2791 reputation for the last few days, but now I was checking the site and I had an unexpected reputation increase to the tune of 325 points. I also noticed reputation gain on my account on "code review", also unexplained. Well, at least, I have now gained the privileg...

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Q: Seeing a lot of posts from one user in LQP queue

Thomas SchremserEarlier today while reviewing the Low Quality Posts queue I noticed a lot of posts from a single 6K user. Some of these posts are recent ones, some are up to 7 years old. Some of the posts are not great but I wouldn't consider them Low Quality either. Is this accumulation of posts from one user ...

 
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