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12:34 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
How often do migrated questions prove worthy of the hassle to migrate them? What percentage of them garner upvotes/answers? Do other sites really want our junk? Where did meta questions with detailed statistics go? — oguz ismail 13 secs ago
 
 
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3:39 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by CPlus
I noted that sometimes, when I see a post grayed out like that, it is always an audit. — CPlus 59 secs ago
 
4:12 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@Roland: Some conventions are so widespread in programming (like that = is assignment to the left-hand side) that code really can be self-explanatory even to people who don't know the library or much about that particular language. The example in this answer is case where someone just needs to read a beginner tutorial for the language if they don't already see that. Those comments aren't going to teach anyone how C# works, and shouldn't attempt to be a tutorial for people who don't know the language. (Having written a heavily commented asm hello world answer, there's a lot of detail...) — Peter Cordes just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
(continued...) The comments in the linked edit review are so generic that they're already clear from context; it's the details like the out result by-reference output parameter that total beginners to C# might not know, or might miss at a glance. So a possibly useful comment could be // result is a reference to the object if the bool return value is true, else it's ??? I don't know because that answer doesn't have a useful comment. (Roland and @David) — Peter Cordes 39 secs ago
 
4:26 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
If what you intended to show was that those lines of code are to be used in different places it should not be code comments that do that but instead paragraphs. Generally though it might be difficult for such edits to get approved and might be better to do with edit privileges. Here's an example of how I might have structured that: "First you need to initialize the cache like so: ...., Next if you want to add something to the cache you can use the Set method like: ...., to get a value from the cache you can use TryGetValue like: ..." — Abdul Aziz Barkat 46 secs ago
 
 
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7:59 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TehSphinX
@RyanM I eventually found the answer in meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/269653. It is very hidden though and not part of the list of how to loose reputation. — TehSphinX 14 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TehSphinX
@RyanM Now that I realize the question was deleted based on mod vote + community vote, I think the problem is even bigger than I originally thought. At least in the Go area there are a few people around that just downvote questions all the time. You open a question like 5min after it was asked and it is already at -2 or more. Of course I can't look into their heads but it feels like a question gets downvoted if there is no straight forward answer and it might take a bit more time than they are willing to invest. — TehSphinX 17 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TehSphinX
Taking the question that was deleted here as and example: stackoverflow.com/questions/78041008 The person asking the question obviously had this issue. Given he used generics which are rather new to Go it was easy to not realize that he used the index instead of the value. It even took me a while to realize it and I'm doing Go since beginning of 2016, since ~2 years on Staff Engineer level. So, why close this question? — TehSphinX 17 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TehSphinX
IMO questions that receive an answer that is upvoted by 2, 3 or more votes shouldn't be deletable. If the question is really bad it could be improved instead to ask more to the point. In the end, no questions are ever stupid if there is a good answer. — TehSphinX 39 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
@TehSphinX the question was closed as a typo, personally though I would have preferred a duplicate closure to a canonical explaining the range keyword. Not understanding that the first value produced when iterating over a slice is the index sounds like a common misunderstanding to me. Maybe the users who closed it might have a different perspective. — Abdul Aziz Barkat 1 min ago
 
8:36 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by blackgreen
for posterity, it's worth mentioning that the second answer on that deleted Q&A was generated with an LLM — blackgreen ♦ 11 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TehSphinX
@blackgreen can you provide a link? I don't see a second answer on the question I'm talking about here. @-14991864 it is not about closing the question, but about deleting it. — TehSphinX 46 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TehSphinX
@AbdulAzizBarkat It is not about closing the question. That is fine. This is about deleting the question. — TehSphinX 16 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by blackgreen
@TehSphinX mmh, you can't see it because you are below 10k rep. I thought having an answer there allowed you to see the entire thread even if it's deleted, but that's not the case. Here's a screenshot: i.stack.imgur.com/cj4dy.pngblackgreen ♦ 30 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
@TehSphinX it was probably deleted because it was closed as a typo. I generally agree that typo questions aren't very useful and should be deleted. — Abdul Aziz Barkat 44 secs ago
 
 
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10:27 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
About the question you want to ask, have you considered using the blur or focusout events? — Abdul Aziz Barkat 38 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Paulie_D
Changing the question would invalidate any existing answers. If you have a new question just ask it and explain why the current Q&A is not sufficient. — Paulie_D 18 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ooker
@Paulie_D why existing answers will be invalidate if the question is still the same? — Ooker 22 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Paulie_D
It won't be the same if you edit it, will it? — Paulie_D 31 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
If the question is the same and you aren't satisfied with the answer for some reason consider adding a bounty to it. — Abdul Aziz Barkat 13 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ooker
@Paulie_D well, if I feel that my edit would make the question different, even slightly, then I wouldn't have to ask this meta question. I have a strong feeling that it wouldn't change (in intend, not content) — Ooker 13 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ooker
@AbdulAzizBarkat done — Ooker 45 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by NotTheDr01ds
@oguzismail We have no way of knowing the overall number unless SE provides statistics. If migration isn't useful, then it's a feature that SE should just turn off entirely. I'm going on the assumption that it was useful when it required 4 of 5 votes, and that it would still be useful today with 2 of 3. The logic of a single vote derailing the migration just doesn't make sense. — NotTheDr01ds 1 min ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by starball
@NotTheDr01ds re "we have no way of knowing" - SEDE schema. PostHistory has migration events (PostHistoryTypeId 35 and 36). then you can join on Posts / Votes / PostFeedback to get voting info. cross-site SEDE is a thing — starball 11 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
4/5 is not the same as 2/3. Migration not happening unless all close voters agree makes perfect sense to me. — oguz ismail 8 secs ago
 
11:47 AM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by burgund
Congrats both and can't wait to see the rest next elections! — burgund 57 secs ago
 
12:15 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Mark Rotteveel
Workaround: do a refresh on the page if this occurs and the operation will work again. — Mark Rotteveel 38 secs ago
 
 
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2:04 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@KarlKnechtel actually yes, but nothing at all the same as Apache ECharts. "E charts" are probably most famously/widely shorthand for "Eye charts", the American (I think) pyramid-style charts of letters that ophthalmologists use to determine how poor your vision is. — TylerH 50 secs ago
 
2:19 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@TylerH It's not a shorthand for "Eye charts". Those charts are called E charts, because they literally have a "E" and only a "E" in it(Snellen charts, on the other hand, have other characters and are more widely used). In any case, I don't see it overlapping with programming. — TheMaster 14 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Thom A
Good to see that things are finally progressing on this again; I'm sure the community will be more than appreciative on this. Hope that this does arrive sooner rather than later, it has been sorely missed, and I look forward to seeing it in its released form. If there's anything that feel feel is obviously outstanding still from the team should we post about that here now? I have noted that one of the PMs has been actively "mopping up" some of the posts there. — Thom A 6 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Quack E. Duck
Interesting, fairly sure I’ve seen at least one regular, non-audit item grayed out once, with an error message similar to that from the button issue. If it happens again I’ll add details — Quack E. Duck 35 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Dimitri Mestdagh
I always thought the reason AI was banned is because (a) it results in too many good-looking but bad quality content that our content-curators can't keep up with it and (b) content license issues. I'm not sure if (a) is a problem yet with AI Regex and we could solve (b) as with any other copied content, by providing attribution and quoting the content. — Dimitri Mestdagh 34 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ian Boyd
In my opinion, if a carbon-based neural network is allowed to post, then we shouldn't discriminate.Ian Boyd 17 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
I don't see how AI is relevant at all to scaling a project like this. The only AI that has "come around" in the last two years is generative text large language models... we are not using AI to write questions (that are allowed on SO) or to review them. So... I have to say "huh?" to that blog post claim. — TylerH 11 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Exactly. I could see it being leveraged in the form of ML powered search or semantic search... but neither didn't exist 2 years ago. Neither did grammar correcting solutions or spell checking or code linting, etc. — Kevin B 59 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Zoe is on strike
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Does it speak for AI or against regex that this looks just like any other regex answer? — MisterMiyagi 47 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
It's no different from using chatgpt to generate a line of code. — Kevin B 42 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@TheMaster I have definitely visited eye doctors who refer to them as "eye" charts. So maybe "Eye" is the colloquial "backronym" for E rather than the inverse. But that's getting rather into the weeds of the comment. — TylerH 28 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by President James K. Polk
It would be nice to leave some of these answers around to get the word out. If the thing actually works well, and I don't know why it would so I'm skeptical, it could move a lot of regex questions off the site along with the tears and agony surrounding that tag. — President James K. Polk 31 secs ago
 
3:08 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by blackgreen
btw, I don't quite understand what you mean with "some mods [...] who don't apply that rule as written, and only apply it to questions written wholesale by AI"blackgreen ♦ 29 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by blackgreen
FWIW, I haven't discussed this internally. It's such an edge case that I wanted to prioritize the broader community input. — blackgreen ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
I mean the policy as written bans all use, which includes "I used a genAI tool to generate this code to start with" or "with the help of AI [...]". But there are answers on Meta that suggest the policy shouldn't be interpreted that way, e.g. yours here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/426915/…TylerH 7 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
(Note, that isn't the only case where the site rules state one thing but mods regularly interpret them to mean something else--the other main culprit probably being NAA flags). — TylerH 52 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Thom A
It's not there any more though, @dan1stmightbehappyagain . — Thom A 18 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
This filter already existed in the beta. — dan1st might be happy again 50 secs ago
 
3:39 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
It's in the Post attributes filter. — dan1st might be happy again 17 secs ago
 
 
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4:55 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Augusto Vasques
Is the quality of the answer subject or relevant here? I'm no one kotlin expert, but the characters range captured by AI regular expression, kindly speaking, doesn't seem to match the range of captured characters by the isLetterOrDigit() function used by the question author. I would like to know if this analysis is useful and adds value here? — Augusto Vasques 43 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@AugustoVasques The regex matches as desired: The \w is letters, digits, and _. A good answer certainly should have explained that obscure part, but it's not exactly a quality standard to be expected of other regex answers either. — MisterMiyagi 44 secs ago
 
5:10 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Augusto Vasques
@MisterMiyagi, The \w regex captures a smaller range of characters than the isLetterorDigit() function. See the function documentation, while \w(word character regex) captures the range [a-zA-Z_0-9] caracteres the function in question considers to be a letter if its category is CharCategory.UPPERCASE_LETTER, CharCategory.LOWERCASE_LETTER, CharCategory.TITLECASE_LETTER, CharCategory.MODIFIER_LETTER, CharCategory.OTHER_LETTER, and number being CharCategory.DECIMAL_DIGIT_NUMBER. — Augusto Vasques 42 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
"gold badge-wielders and moderators make it 1, still" - Users with a gold tag badge can only single-handedly close questions as duplicates, not for other reasons. — dan1st might be happy again 10 secs ago
 
5:23 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Bella_Blue
The first rule of Community Manager Club is that we do not over-promise, so let me say that what I am offering here is highly speculative. But two early proposals include a better means to detect duplicate questions, and methods to surface questions to appropriate subject-matter experts. However, these examples are not exhaustive. — Bella_Blue ♦ 50 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Bella_Blue
Thank you so much for your feedback I am taking notes and we will be looking at each of these points internally. — Bella_Blue ♦ 20 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
So, things that definitely were possible before 2 years ago — Kevin B 26 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Bella_Blue
We are currently in the process of finalizing our launch plan, which makes it challenging to commit to a specific release date at this moment. However, I am hopeful that we will be ready to launch in the next few months, especially as we focus on enhancing scalability. You're right to point out that scalability will be a challenge for Staging Ground, and we are likely going to have to run some experiments before we nail the final design. — Bella_Blue ♦ 35 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
Note that when saying scalability, I am mainly talking about making sure sufficiently many reviewers are actively reviewing questions. — dan1st might be happy again 42 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Berthold
@Machavity Understood, thanks for confirming that, I will follow up with them and report back. — Berthold ♦ 17 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by blackgreen
Regarding that specific post you mention, if you are a member of the GenAI Team, you can find an additional important piece of the conversation which I won’t repeat here. As for NAAs, if you have specific concerns or if you think a flag has been mishandled you should bring it up in Meta so that it can be properly reviewed — blackgreen ♦ 26 secs ago
 
5:54 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by chivracq
And like I said, ... only had to wait for 11 days, and tagada...!: "Staging Ground is coming back and moving out of beta". // I reckon Staff will now soon update the Help Center... — chivracq 54 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by chivracq
Alright, that's a good news...! // And don't forget to update the Help Center (which should already have been edited in January 2024 and still mentions "Currently, the Staging Ground is in a limited beta release; only a small portion of new askers will be randomly sampled to go through the Staging Ground."), to avoid some endless discussion again... :idea: — chivracq 25 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@AugustoVasques Ah, sorry, I’m used to regex engines with implicit unicode support. No idea how Kotlin handles this. It would certainly be interesting if the question were to discuss this - though the absence of any mention does not raise confidence in the author actually knowing. — MisterMiyagi 19 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@blackgreen I'm just addressing your question, not pointing to specific case examples that need to be addressed at the moment. My answer refers to process issues, not specific cases. — TylerH 56 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
I'm guessing the badges will be similar (if not identical) to the ones you already get in review queues; bronze, silver, and gold, with gold repeatable for every 1000 (or whatever number) of questions you review in the SG. — TylerH just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Slate
@dan1st Absolutely - three angles to approach from. First is how much work there is to get done. Second is how many people are available to do that work. Third is how much work each person can reasonably do. All three are valid directions from which to approach the problem - and likely all will need some amount of attention for the solution to really click. — Slate ♦ 48 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
"This is a very tricky scenario. What sorts of solutions do we have for this?" Reject the question. If OP did something other than fix the problems reviewers identified, rejection is the appropriate response. — TylerH 29 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by blackgreen
Ok, I still don’t understand the sentence “only apply it to questions written wholesale by AI”. Are you saying that there are mods who arbitrarily don’t delete AI-generated posts (beside the controversial issue you linked earlier)? What I understand from your words is that “only questions written wholesale by AI” are moderated in a consistent fashion, and that’s definitely not my impression — blackgreen ♦ 22 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@blackgreen I'm arguing that this question you've posed above about how to handle AI-generated regular expressions shouldn't need to be asked in the first place because it involves using AI, and the current site policy bans all use of AI in posts. It's only necessary because at least some (I say "at least some" because ostensibly it has to be at least one, not necessarily any specific moderators or number of moderators, otherwise we wouldn't be discussing this) apparently consider the policy to mean something less/something more constrained than what it actually says. — TylerH 15 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
The policy does not say "all use of generative AI, except for generating code snippets as a basis and then writing a question or answer from there, is banned when posting content on SO". It says "all use of generative AI in posts is banned when posting content on SO". — TylerH just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by V2Blast
You should add the [search] tag to this post. :) — V2Blast 37 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@user4581301 That would be an extremely small pool of candidates. A more realistic criterion would be "someone who has an account on the target site and has earned reputation there", or perhaps earned the "Informed" badge on that site. — TylerH 16 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
One of the simplest strategy to increase SG reviewers would be to push SG posts to them on the questions page itself.Given it's possible to search for them currently this should be possible as well. One of things I liked the most about the SG experience was that unlike a review queue I could see the list of SG questions and pick amongst them to review. — Abdul Aziz Barkat 59 secs ago
 
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[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
@TylerH In some cases, the OP might want to self-answer the question. When I came across this situation, I typically commented saying I would publish it if they wanted to self-answer it and use the Request Major Changes to ensure it isn't published. — dan1st might be happy again just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
@AbdulAzizBarkat That's an interesting idea. However, I think most people would be interested in answering the questions (and getting the rep for it) and not reviewing posts. These people would probably just use the SG to FGITW questions by preparing an answer, publishing the post and immediately posting the answer without reviewing/improving any questions. — dan1st might be happy again 54 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
I changed my display name as soon as In saw the activity in Teams ;) — dan1st might be happy again 16 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
@dan1stmightbehappyagain that was the biggest caveat I thought about this as well :( BTW I noticed you've changed your nickname :) — Abdul Aziz Barkat 55 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Andreas moved to Codidact
@Bella_Blue Would these things use generative AI, or something else? — Andreas moved to Codidact 26 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@dan1stmightbehappyagain OP wanting to self-answer is a red herring. OP is allowed to self-answer on-topic questions. Spevacus' scenario is about where OP has an off-topic question and wants to answer it instead of fixing it so that it is on-topic. The solution when your SG question needs revisions is to fix the specified issues, not post an answer (especially not as an edit to the question). — TylerH 36 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
@TylerH They said it would be in Requires Major Changes which does not mean off-topic at all. — dan1st might be happy again 1 min ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@dan1stmightbehappyagain Here "off-topic" means "close worthy" (that language is used because that's what the closure banner says, even if the topic of the question is about programming. "needs focus", "opinion-based", "needs details" etc. are all labeled as "off-topic". — TylerH 47 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by dan1st might be happy again
@TylerH If I think a post needs details and the OP says they'd have fixed it, I'd tell them what they need to change. — dan1st might be happy again 21 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by user4581301
@TylerH Overly restrictive, yes, but if you do not know that the question will be well-received on Site X, you have no business migrating. Maybe as low as commenting privileges would be suitable, but I suspect a good minimum would be "able to access the review queues." — user4581301 38 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@user4581301 I don't think you need to have close vote privileges to know whether a question will be on-topic. Otherwise why are we letting anyone ask a question on the site without first getting close vote reputation? Seems like a specious argument to me. As for "well-received", no one can guess at that. There are perfectly good questions on all sites that are still closed, and vice versa. — TylerH just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by TylerH
@dan1stmightbehappyagain I don't see how that situation is relevant. Again, Spevacus' scenario is when they didn't fix the issues raised by the reviewer, but claimed they did. The appropriate response there is to say "no, this isn't fixed." in whatever mechanism the system allows. — TylerH just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by user4581301
That I'm not going to argue with. We've got folks with fantastic amounts of rep that are too fast on the draw (or don't draw fast enough) and rank n00bs that "get it" immediately. We should consider that there be no migration at all. The asker should be directed to the help center for a candidate site and told to rework the question to bring it in line with that site's rules and re-ask, then delete the off-topic question. If they do it, awesome. If they don't, the roomba will clean up the off-topic question in a few weeks. — user4581301 50 secs ago
 
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[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
It is only meaningful, if it's a reasonable admission of not knowing whether or not the regex (or line of code) is correct. The context around the line can certainly provide clues about that, but if our policy is literally no generative AI, then an admission of posting content by generative ai is clearly against the policy — Kevin B 8 secs ago
 
8:04 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Your statement that plagiarism is not a relevant concern is incorrect (even for a non-AI proprietary tool). On Stack Exchange, anything that is not your own, original content must be cited. Both this instance and your hypothetical example are definitely instances of "copying content from [...an...] online [...] tool" so not following our referencing standards would be a violation of the CoC under the "Inauthentic usage policy". — Henry Ecker ♦ 42 secs ago
 
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[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@HenryEcker What if there is no way to create a permalink for the specific output used in the answer? — Karl Knechtel 48 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"The answer doesn't satisfy me, as it doesn't have the code." If it had code, would it satisfy you? If yes: editing the question doesn't help to get an answer with code, and changing the question is expected not to invalidate existing answers (this is covered by many previous Meta Q&As and probably in the Help Center as well). If no: then you probably have a new question, and you need to explain why you can't just take possible code for that answer and solve the problem. — Karl Knechtel 46 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"I also try using ref hook, and have code for that." - if you mean that you wrote code that uses "ref hook" (whatever that means), and that code solves the problem, then you are answering the question, not asking it. — Karl Knechtel 44 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by starball
"how do I get clarity as to why a question was closed?" read the Help Center (how to ask, minimal reproducible example, etc.) and read meta (search for Q&A related to your tag). check the tag guidance. read the comments people left (if any). — starball 59 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
 
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[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
We do, kinda. "Links to pastebin.com must be accompanied by code. Please indent all code by 4 spaces using the code toolbar button or the CTRL+K keyboard shortcut. For more editing help, click the [?] toolbar icon."Kevin B just now
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Thom A
People shouldn't use Paste Bin because if Paste Bin isn't available in the future the question is useless. The content of the question should be in the question. — Thom A 47 secs ago
 
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[ Boson light ] New comment posted by starball
the deciding factor of how you suggest us to act is "if the answer's author doesn't understand the regex". unfortunately, I am not telepathic, and almost nobody (especially anyone trying to farm rep) will say "I got this from an AI and I have no idea what it means"... how would you decide which option to take (edit vs flag) then? — starball 19 secs ago
 
9:33 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by blackgreen
My question here is not really about whether the policy bans AI or not. It does, we all know that. The question is more like whether AI-powered tools that aren’t LLMs fall in the same basket. My personal opinion is that it does fall in the same basket, but it’s an edge case, open to interpretation, on which it’s worth to gauge community consensus. — blackgreen ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I mean... do we know it isn't an LLM? — Kevin B 14 secs ago
 
9:46 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Ryan M
I think it's probably more useful to consider whether this should be banned, rather than just interpreting the current policy. With community consensus, the policy (or interpretations of edge cases or ambiguities) can change. — Ryan M ♦ 17 secs ago
 
10:23 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by zcoop98
The license doesn't need to match, post authors can license their own content under whatever license they want; but the going guidance dictates that questions need to be self-contained. It's less "don't use Paste Bin" and more "always include everything in the question", even if you do link to Paste Bin. — zcoop98 13 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by zcoop98
This FAQ is in the ballpark, though it's about linking a live, online project rather than Paste Bin: Something in my web site or project doesn't work. Can I just paste a link to it?zcoop98 10 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@starball the main point of my answer is that the content shouldn't be in the answer either way. — Karl Knechtel 15 secs ago
 
10:48 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by starball
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by V2Blast
"I still find it highly annoying and problematic that I can't edit other peoples' posts to fix typos, and make their titles not suck." – Agreed. (That was one of the nice things about having mod powers, as a CM... I could clean up the spaces around me, and make them better for everyone.) — V2Blast 34 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by zcoop98
(Super not the point, but regex-generator.olafneumann.org is really neat and I'd never seen it before, so thanks for introducing me to that) — zcoop98 39 secs ago
 
11:05 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Security Hound
This is an excellent answer, it highlights the exact flaw in AI generated answers, context. A human would understand the difference between isLetterOrDigit() and /w, while an LLM, conclusion that isLetterOrDigit() == /w while indeed correct on a subset of characters is actually false in other instances. — Security Hound 24 secs ago
 
11:25 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by user4581301
The problem is people are going looking on meta before they ask their first questions because they don't know meta is a the great oral history of Stack Overflow and a trove of great wisdom. Hell, they probably won't even know meta exists until they're directed to meta when they get Q-banned. — user4581301 19 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by Dhaust
@chivracq Touché. Well called. — Dhaust 49 secs ago
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by tgdavies
@user4581301 I imagine most don't even read "How to ask" (I wonder if stats exist on that?) — tgdavies 52 secs ago
 
11:50 PM
[ Boson light ] New comment posted by starball
@SecurityHound it's hurts my brain so much that your slash is in the wrong direction — starball 30 secs ago
 

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