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12:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"As you can see from the comments under the Stack Overflow question I tried to explain why this was a valid question but it was then immediately closed ¯_(ツ)_/¯ despite being quickly answered on Server Fault." In your own words, why do you think Stack Overflow and Server Fault both separately exist, while being run by the same people? Would you consider that, at least in principle, there are some questions that are supposed to be asked in one place, and not the other? Maybe your question might have been one of them? Maybe "lying" has nothing to do with it? — Karl Knechtel 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eswar
I read the first comment. well..I don't want to waste much time on reading your comments. Best thing for me is not to worry about stackoverflow and find my answers somewhere else. Deleting my account here as well — Eswar 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Błażej Michalik
@KarlKnechtel "Yes; but "how do I achieve X" helps out both groups" - maybe, but it doesn't make the site as a whole more useful to the people who search for answers. It confuses beginners, and in many cases lowers the quality of the knowledge base by increasing the amount of searches people have to make. What is the point of the process if people get less relevant information at the end of it? — Błażej Michalik 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Błażej Michalik
@KarlKnechtel also, note, that "how do I achieve X" doesn't help the group that asks "what is the reason behind error E". — Błażej Michalik 49 secs ago
 
12:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
"doing the thing in a professional server-administration context" - SO has equivalent requirement from my point of view - it requires author to be professional or enthusiast programmer. It cuts down on need to explain that variables exist and what they are (ok, in most cases), similar how SF requirement cuts down on need to explain things like DNS records or existence of HTTP. — Alexei Levenkov 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
As far as I can tell from the on-topic page, Server Fault doesn't actually require you to "be doing the thing" in that context. It only requires that the question is about "doing the thing" in that context. IOW, they don't want questions that end users would have. Setting up a mail server is definitely not something ordinary end users do. — Karl Knechtel 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
"It's programming related" - Changing a configuration file does not make it "programming related', The configuration of an email server is not a programming problem, it's a server application configuration problem, and likely within scope at Server Fault. It does not matter if it's your server or your friend's server, provided you have enough basic knowledge as an Administrator on the server. At no point are you writing or debugging code when you configure an email server. — Security Hound 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
"Except all of those were downvoted and deleted almost a year ago" - How long ago a question was asked and deleted does not matter, it's still factored into the algorithm, that determines if you have or do not have a 6 month rate limit on questions. Since I presume you were the one who asked he questions, since you mentioned the individual with access to your account did not ask questions, the algorithm taking into account your previous actions is justified. After nearly a year, and more than 12 questions, you cannot be considered a "newbie" of the community. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"I was trying to ask a question that is fairly critical to my project moving forward" - this is not our problem. We do not provide tech support, a help desk, tutorial resources etc.; we answer questions, because doing so builds a Q&A library. If it helps you, great! We partially rely on that incentive to get people to contribute good questions. However, it's not our motivation, and asking good questions that fit the format is a) difficult and b) too important to relax standards. — Karl Knechtel 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"It confuses beginners" - ????? I legitimately cannot understand your reasoning here. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
Your permissions were lost because of the questions that were asked, while your account was in your control, and it's also not possible to manually lift a question ban. A question ban is brought about by asking 5 questions, and having them over a course of a year deleted, that is nearly 30% of the questions you asked in total. If you then take into consideration only a single question you asked received upvotes, your history of asking well received questions has yet to be proven, thus the reason you reach the threshold for the question ban. You can ask a question in 6 months. — Security Hound 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Błażej Michalik
@KarlKnechtel Beginners do not know what is the right question they should ask when searching for a solution. Reducing the amount of angles over which the light is shed on a particular problem makes the site harder to use for them, especially when it redirects them to the target without any heads-up. — Błażej Michalik 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Błażej Michalik
@KarlKnechtel To be clear, I don't want to diminish the value of your work. It is substantial and it's thanks to people like you to which we owe the hours we save on SO. What I'm saying is that there is a balance between having a concise library of answers and being useful to people who don't know what question they should ask. I'm just hoping you'd consider giving some weight to the "usefulness in case of lack of knowledge" side. — Błażej Michalik 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Reducing the amount of angles over which the light is shed on a particular problem makes the site harder to use for them, especially when it redirects them to the target without any heads-up." Redirecting them shows them what the right question is, and gets them there even if they phrase it differently. (This is also why I care a lot about editing questions neatly and having proper MREs.) I'm not aiming to be concise (I write canonical answers that are several pages long, when it's merited by the underlying problem); I'm aiming to be centralized. — Karl Knechtel 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Błażej Michalik
@KarlKnechtel That's fair, but the person who searches an error in Google does not necessarily want to know what is the right approach, but want to attain a deeper understanding of the problem behind the error. I've seen many closures that do not take that into account. Maybe you are aiming to be centralized, but have you considered it might be at the cost of useful information? — Błażej Michalik 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Once I've chosen a canonical, I will often contribute my own answer specifically to try to cover "usefulness in case of lack of knowledge". Here is a good recent example of how I attempt to cover bases. — Karl Knechtel 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Błażej Michalik
@KarlKnechtel "Once I've chosen a canonical, I will often contribute my own answer specifically to try to cover "usefulness in case of lack of knowledge"." - then I rest my case. As long as the search engines also agree, that is ;). — Błażej Michalik 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
As for people searching an error message, there's often not a lot that can be done for them. In some cases, the same error can be caused by wildly different circumstances. This is a problem that I have been thinking about separately, especially for areas where there are no good canonicals and new content needs to be written. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
 
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4:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by President James K. Polk
@AJP: Even if his mail server had a bug it will still not be programming related in the sense we use on stack overflow unless the question was about diagnosing and fixing the bug from the programmer's perspective. If the question is about finding a patch from the software maintainer or working around the bug it's off topic. — President James K. Polk 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by President James K. Polk
It appears your account is suspended. Was that like that before the question or did it happen after you posted this? — President James K. Polk 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Thanks again! Sadly, I can't offer another vote. Maybe some sunflower seeds? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by President James K. Polk
When the day arrives that free AI produces programming answers that are useful then people will naturally just ask those tools directly. If they really do work then stack overflow won't see many questions and that means the job of stack overflow is over and the site can close. It will have served it's purpose and we can all be proud of our contributions. Perhaps there will be an interim period where a hybrid solution makes sense but we'll know when that day is near. Based on SO's experience with the current technology the best estimate of that time is never. — President James K. Polk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joshua
@JohnBollinger: I've had to reject bad approved edits that got through the review queue. It's hard to write a general rule; but most of the time we prefer the author have the say. — Joshua 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by President James K. Polk
That really isn't the best thing. The best thing is to take the tour, find out what kinds of questions are appropriate and not appropriate, and start asking excellent questions and providing excellent answers. We need more quality contributors. — President James K. Polk 1 min ago
 
5:08 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Giacomo1968
Same thing for me just now. Mobile Safari in iOS 16.3 and when I just saved a question (bookmark) I see this text, “ Why is this bookmark message partially in Russian? “Question saved to Ha потом.” i.stack.imgur.com/zPYiW.jpgGiacomo1968 1 min ago
 
5:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@PresidentJamesK.Polk suspended accounts cannot post anything. And OP has posted a few comments here. So, it must have happened after. We can't know the reason for the suspension, though - might be unrelated to this question. — VLAZ 23 secs ago
 
 
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7:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Actually, we’ve got quite a few robots working here productively. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
 
7:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AJP
@KarlKnechtel yes you're correct. My initial confusion was my conversation with "Rob" underneath the first question on Stack Overflow where he misunderstood the question based on the context. The conversation wasn't resolved, the question was just closed without explanation. I wrongly assumed it was closed because of the incorrect interpretation of the question's context. I now see that the question was more suitable for Server Fault, and it would be interesting to know (but too late to know) if it would have been accepted in its original form. — AJP 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RockPaperLz- Mask it or Casket
@MisterMiyagi Yes, we do. This is a bit of humour, something that is appreciated by enjoyable humans, few of which seem to frequent these lands nowadays... — RockPaperLz- Mask it or Casket 55 secs ago
 
8:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
What was confusing about Rob's comment? It read, "Hover over the email tag and read that popup. Then delete this." There was no misunderstanding of the question. There was no "incorrect interpretation of the question's context". The question's context was correctly interpreted as not being about programming, and so the question was closed. The closure most certainly was not "without explanation", as you claim; the explanation was provided in a big blue banner box at the top of the question! — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by klutt
A double? Nice! — klutt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AJP
Thanks for the advice Karl, yes it was from my confusion about why it was closed. Agreed regarding less context. I think what I needed was a "Thanks but post this on ServerFault" closed. I thought it was closed due to "Rob" misunderstanding the (irrelevant) context of the question as being about "why the emails you send are marked as spam". The "configuration of mail servers belong on Server Fault" didn't land for me as I didn't view this as configuring but as what's a valid writing of a mail server. Thanks again for your detailed post, I'll try to do better. — AJP 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mousetail
It''s not total reputation, it's reputation for the site you are on now. The word total doesn't really fit since it usually refers to the sum of some number of subcategories but that doesn't really apply here. — mousetail 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AJP
@CodyGray yes I thought it was closed due to Rob misunderstanding the (irrelevant) context of the question as being about "why the emails you send are marked as spam". The "configuration of mail servers belong on Server Fault" didn't land for me as I didn't view this as configuring but as what's a valid writing of a mail server. I think what I needed was a "Thanks but post this on ServerFault and drop the irrelevant context" closed. I'm going to stop replying now to save people's time. I think we've worked this to death! Thanks for all your inputs. — AJP 1 min ago
 
8:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MirrorMirror
@PeterMortensen not sure what you mean? What change in writing style? — MirrorMirror 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MirrorMirror
@Larnu OK I get that, still think it's wrong but anyway, whether I like it or not I have to accept it, what about the issue of the 3 notifications that I cannot rid off because I cannot assign the points to an answer since there's none? — MirrorMirror 1 min ago
 
9:13 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@PeterMortensen if that works, you are a god among men. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
@CodyGray - I guess that depends on if this is the final version of this post. These questions are being treated more as bulletin board posts than question and answer posts. It isn't really inline with the use of the site. — Travis J 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
[flutter-audioplayers] seems like it would be 1. accepted 2. not ambiguous. Why not just choose a more specific name, rather than rely on pluralisation to tell them apart? — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Although [audioplayer] itself still seems problematic, IMO. — VLAZ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by spydon
The pluralisation is not a way to tell them apart, it is the actual name that is in plural. But flutter-audioplayers is a good idea, we'll roll with that. :) — spydon 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"The pluralisation is not a way to tell them apart" yet a user choosing the tag basically has this. Because users rarely read the tag wikis. So if somebody who has never even heard of Flutter decides they have an issue with two audio players, with your suggestion "I suggest that we at least create the [audioplayers] tag too." that user will be left to choose between tagging [audio-player] or [audioplayers]. They might choose one or the other. Or both. Who knows. Tagging by some users seems to be choosing keywords already present in the question. — VLAZ 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by spydon
Ah, you mean from the perspective of creating questions that are not releated to Flutter, that's very true. I don't know what purpose the [audio-player] tag serves though, doesn't seem like something that anybody would follow or search for. — spydon 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It's an announcement of a site change and/or feature, @TravisJ. We've always used Meta as the place for that. It's not traditional Q&A, but nothing about Meta is traditional. If staff was using this same post as a bulletin board for announcing multiple site changes/features, then I'd agree that would be inappropriate. However, this has so far always stayed focused on a single feature. The only updates have been to give specific dates of when the change has been made, and when it was reverted back. Those are helpful details to have here, and they rightly belong as updates. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
9:43 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mari-Lou A
Maybe if the line was funny users would laugh… — Mari-Lou A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"Tagging by some users seems to be choosing keywords already present in the question." When users tag [windows], [server] and [email] because they received an email from their manager to diagnose a problem on one of their applications while it's running on one of their (Windows) Servers... 🤦🏻 — Larnu 1 min ago
 
10:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@CodyGray "hover your mouse over things" is old school web UI design that has stuck around in Stack Overflow. How often do we tell people to hover the mouse over the downvote button for example. I think maybe it's time to admit that it is an obsolete design choice. Kevin B might claim that mobile doesn't matter... yeah it does. Mobiles rule the galaxy now. — Gimby 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@AJP - “Hover over the email tag and read that popup. Then delete this.”, is a rude comment and should have been flagged. However, the close reason was self-explanatory, commentary to explain the closure wasn’t necessary — Security Hound 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
This probably isn't the best place for this discussion, but doesn't it seem that there used to be blog posts paired with requested feedback, in the sort of "always" sense? It certainly feels like recently meta is more of a list of blog posts than any sort of actual discussion about how the site itself works. This is what is happening with regards to the site, so it isn't exactly off topic in itself, but the nature of the posting, where it is just an explanation paired with a constant stream of edits, isn't exactly how it's always been... imho — Travis J 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lino
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lino
Also which browser an OS are you using? Additionally do you have any active userscripts / ad blockers installed — Lino 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nicael
@Lino checked no userscripts, on Safari / Chrome Mac, although I don't think it matters, could you please check if you see bulletin here?nicael 1 min ago
 
11:11 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lino
I can reproduce the behaviour, on both pages. And I'm using Chrome 109.0.5414.121 on Windows 10 — Lino 1 min ago
 
11:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Connell
@V2Blast that should be fixed now. Third time lucky! — Connell ♦ 12 secs ago
 
12:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
If it doesn't fit on Server Fault, then it should on Super User. Sample. — Peter Mortensen 24 secs ago
 
1:18 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
As a frequent mobile user, it can be quite frustrating that a non-small amount of the information on posts is inaccessible. — Larnu 20 secs ago
 
1:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aynber
Programming questions should go on the main site, not on meta. And you'll probably need more information, such as the code for that section, so we can help you — aynber 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aynber
Looks like the tags have been converted. Sign up on Talent <svg aria-hidden="true".....aynber 1 min ago
 
1:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Oh no, not this a‌​gai&#‌​x6e; — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
 
2:51 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jim Klimov
"I'm not afraid of the day when a machine passes the Turing test. I'm afraid of the day when it fails one... on purpose!"Jim Klimov 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user253751
@O.Jones That's because you completely misunderstood Collectives. The purpose of Collectives is not to improve user experiences. The purpose of Collectives is to gain sponsorship money by showing more corporate logos to users. — user253751 20 secs ago
 
3:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V2Blast
@Connell: Yep, seems to be working now. Thanks! :) — V2Blast ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Boyd
"It's not our responsibility to make StackOverflow better."Stephen C, July 21, 2018Ian Boyd 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
except... it is. That's the entire point of contributing anything to it. — Kevin B 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@IanBoyd Why exactly do you insist on misquoting them? Ripping their words out of context is bad enough – if you style that as a quote, why not even reproduce the words verbatim? — MisterMiyagi 36 secs ago
 
4:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
It appears as though your images are linking to a pickles team that we can't access — Kevin B 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Has there been any research on how often related questions are... even remotely useful in terms of solving a problem one might have for a question that has no answers? or is this strictly for reducing bounce %. — Kevin B 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
@IanBoyd You've previously been told not to include that quote; the same thing applies to comments. Stop taking stuff out of context — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ScottishTapWater
@user253751 - Hardly, there are plenty of users that have been here as long as Jon Skeet but have nowhere near his amount of rep. Sure, the longer you're here the more rep you'll have as long as you're not a complete idiot, but you still need to contribute valuably and consistently to get to high amounts of rep — ScottishTapWater 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user253751
@ScottishTapWater one of the best ways to get rep is answering noob questions and it's actually quite controversial because they could be closed as duplicates (which the asker will quite likely not understand) instead — user253751 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Salmon_of_Wisdom
@KevinB Thanks, I've fixed the screencaps! And to clarify, the scope of this experiment is to see if we can put related questions in a place people will see them. There are good questions to ask about how to serve better related questions but that's out of scope here. — Salmon_of_Wisdom ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@ScottishTapWater it's certainly possible to earn massive amounts of rep without contributing valuably. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ScottishTapWater
If the asker won't understand the answer in the linked dupe then I'd argue it's not a dupe because it's not answering the asker's question in a fashion that they can understand — ScottishTapWater 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
Why not make the sidebar more useful so people don't ignore it? — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I don't think it's necessarily a bad change, from a UI perspective... but I doubt it's going to be a useful change for people looking for a solution unless the question is literally a duplicate. — Kevin B 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Salmon_of_Wisdom
@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz It's a well known effect that users get very good at filtering out content they always see (sometimes this is called "sticky blindness"), even if the content is useful or important. What we're testing here is how that relates to how users engage with related questions, which would be important information to have if/when updating the sidebar comes up. — Salmon_of_Wisdom ♦ 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
Is this an improved list or just moving what's in the sidebar? Too often those questions are either the most basic questions in the same tag that aren't related to what you're doing or they're the same or a similar question in an unrelated language. — Laurel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Salmon_of_Wisdom
@Laurel For this experiment, no change in what we're serving in the Related Questions, just where we're serving it for some anonymous users. — Salmon_of_Wisdom ♦ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
The example you've given doesn't really fit here. I agree that "How to enumerate an enum?", "How do I enumerate an enum?", etc are all pretty much the same and is a question of style, and it's reasonable to allow the OP to decide which phrasing they prefer. However, "gcc compiles what it shouldn't" could apply to literally tens of thousands of questions and is an objectively less useful title than "Why does gcc not detect overflow on variable initialization?". OPs don't get to make the title of a question worse just because it's their title. That's not how the site works. — cigien 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Rotteveel
"And always leave a comment regarding why you decided to close it." I don't think that is necessary, nor constructive. I usually flag comments explaining close votes, upvotes, reopen votes, etc as "no longer needed". Comments are to provide feedback to a question or answers, i.e. to request clarification or suggest improvements. — Mark Rotteveel 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@mousetail: I mean, the only other time I can think of in which there would be any ambiguity whatsoever about what that total reputation number - on whether or not it's all your rep on one site or all your rep across the network - would be is if you're looking at your own flair, but sure I'll disambiguate the answer — Makoto 27 secs ago
 
5:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Victor Stafusa - BozoNaCadeia
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark McWiggins
Stackoverflow has been crucial for me since I started using it 11 years ago ... this is a community of experience programmers who are quick to help people with questions. Please participate and this will make the site more useful for everyone. — Mark McWiggins 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mousetail
Chat, for example, shows your total reputation for every site, even in a chat room for one specific site — mousetail 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@mousetail: Oh, that's useful to know. Not a lot of people (like, at all) use chat so that might be another spot where this comes up. But based on this card alone, this looks to be a per-site thing. Does chat show you the full badge count across the networks too? — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mousetail
Chat does not, but Area 51 does show your total badge count for every site as one example — mousetail 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@mousetail: Doesn't look that different from the flair window. Here, look at Robert Carantino's display on the old A&M site proposal. That's just his flair. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mousetail
In a few places on the site like the commitment page, also actually I checked and it does show total badge count on your chat profile, but not next to your messages — mousetail 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine
It's not possible to lift your ban on request. You should edit your poorly-received posts. — EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
42 of your 63 undeleted questions have a score of 0 or less, which is likely a good contribution to why the system has automatically limited you to only being able to ask once every 6 months. If you have any deleted questions with a score of <= 0, then those could be a large contributor too (but we, as users, can't see those). — Larnu 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
You have 15 deleted questions on top of those 42 questions as well — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
That's usual I think. Tag and search pages have always behaved substantially different. The most important — Erik A 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
If you are treating Stack Overflow like Reddit then no wonder the system is limiting you to one question every 6 months. Stack Overflow is a Q&A site. Don't treat it like a forum or some kind of personal help desk. — Dharman ♦ 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Posting questions that are specific to your code that are not general enough to be interesting for many people to some other sites (with less focus on eternal value of posts) is actually good idea. While it looks like you used "stick with Reddit" as sort of "F* u" remark, it actually is an approach that I'd highly recommend - post question there, see people reaction/feedback and in rare case consider posting back to SO when you got clear understanding of what is the question and if answers are interesting (or at least the question itself is interesting even if specific/not useful). — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by O. Jones
@user253751 Ok, that explains the motivation for Collectives. I never was quite sure. — O. Jones 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user253751
I'm sure tags will be gradually replaced by non-user-serviceable Collectives - it's a standard part of the enshittification process that all capitalist businesses must go through at some stage. — user253751 21 secs ago
 
6:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AJP
Thank you @SecurityHound , I tried to respond constructively to what I thought Rob was confused about (I didn't even think about flagging it but I may next time) but the question was then immediately closed so I made the misassumption it was due to unresolved confusion relating to the question & context. It has become abundantly clear that this may be partially true but the main problem was that my previous perspective prevented me from appreciating that & why the question was not on topic. Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it. — AJP 55 secs ago
 
6:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
While this is a location that gives more visibility to related questions, once again you are wasting time improving minor things while leaving important ones untouched. You should optimize asking questions and showing more relevant questions when people ask, but to do that you need to move specifying tags under the question title, so that you stop showing irrelevant questions in other languages and platforms because you search only based on title. — Dalija Prasnikar 22 secs ago
 
7:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I mean, yeah, there's a text-link button with the words "mark all as read" — Kevin B 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Mašek
@Salmon_of_Wisdom You mention "sticky blindness", but isn't the site actually training people to do that as well? If the related/linked questions are important to be seen, move them to the top of the sidebar, instead of hiding them in between a pile of attention grabbing unrelated stuff. If someone is trying to solve a problem, why would they be interested in some blog posts, or whatever's going on on meta, or some ad that apparently would be there if I didn't have an adblocker. And now you want to cluttering the main content area as well. :( — Dan Mašek 31 secs ago
 
7:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@DanMašek if i'm not mistaken, there's been ads in the main column for a while now under specific conditions. One at the top, one between answers when there's more than n answers, etc. These also happen to be the only places one can gain access to the pulse surveys. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@MarkRotteveel Unilaterally slamming a 100+ voted post closed without even leaving a note why is what's not constructive. It is fine to leave comments related to moderation, such as explaining why a post was closed. — Lundin 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@Lundin the close reason itself is enough of a reason, regardless of how many misguided users decided to upvote it. — Kevin B 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
"… on question pages with no answers" How many people actually go to such questions? From my search experience, I rarely get these as top results; even if I do I can see an answer count already in the search engine and prioritise other Q&A. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
 
7:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@MisterMiyagi Every person who asks a question. Every person who goes to answer a question with no answers. Admittedly, neither of these groups would see this A/B test. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ — Kevin B 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Mašek
@KevinB I guess I'm glad I do not get to see those ads there. And it's possible that I've ignored those surveys, as I don't care about them either when using the site for its purpose. Doesn't make the situation (or the solution they're trying out here) any better IMHO. — Dan Mašek 16 secs ago
 
8:06 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nicael
waiting for -1 for the lack of freehand circles — nicael 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
looks like they beat you to it — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nicael
@kev outplayed and destroyed — nicael 1 min ago
 
8:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Blastfurnace
@Gimby Hover for more information isn't obsolete design for people that rely on assistive technology on the internet. — Blastfurnace 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
It's mobile that hasn't adapted to the web in this case. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Yeah, this looks quite obvious. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Surely, this would be a setting on your profile (email settings) that you can change. Obviously can't explain why it's on all of a sudden, but that shouldn't stop you from turning it off — Kevin B 1 min ago
 
9:03 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jlawler
I have never used StackOverflow, nor set any settings. When I followed the link on the email to change my mail settings, I got a 404. I've never gotten any mail at all from StackOverflow, except an automatic congratulation when I went over a big point limit last year. — jlawler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
it's entirely possible this has nothing to do with stackoverflow, the community, and instead this email is a standard one used by stackoverflow, the company. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Timothy Gonzalez
I think the problem is inherently with AI. I've never before seen coding responses that looked so good that they could be true, but had blatant issues like an expert making trivial mistakes it just doesn't happen with humans. It's hard to articulate, but at the least ChatGPT isn't running the coding responses they provide unlike pretty much any user who is confident enough to provide a response has ran what they are saying. — Timothy Gonzalez 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jlawler
So I hafta contact the company? — jlawler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
No, just go to your profile email settings on any network. They all share the same email settings. — Kevin B 15 secs ago
 
9:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@KevinB once upon a time I proposed reading prior answers as a prerequisite for posting when question already has many answers — gnat 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Re the C++ question, I tried const reference to literal as my search and found stackoverflow.com/questions/2088259 off the top. — Karl Knechtel 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@gnat I'd prefer, action be taken when posts receive more than n answers by users with the power to do so to prevent them from reaching the point where it's absurd to expect people to read several dozen answers to avoid repeating one. — Kevin B 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
Could you edit to provide the URL of the unsubscribe link that 404-ed? — user 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
*to add one point to @AlexeiLevenkov's comment: consider not posting the reddit-ed question here if it's a duplicate. search first. — user 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Then again, there is a way to tell someone that they could just Google this without coming across as a jerk, which may be the finer point being missed." My current formula is: "Please read How to Ask and How much research effort is expected of Stack Overflow users?. I found the linked duplicate by putting search terms into a search engine | by copying and pasting your question title into a search engine." Of course, this works a lot better when it's true and I actually have dupe-hammered it ;) — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Please don't use "the question is lazy" as an excuse not to close a duplicate. Leaving duplicates unmarked makes the entire site worse. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@James "but isn't it arguably rude to ask a lazy question that wastes everyone's time as it was easy to search for the answer?" If the question meets the site mandate and is not a duplicate, then adding it to the site is inherently not a waste of time. Many of the site's most important and valuable questions concern topics that an experiences programmer would find trivial. Neophytes will always outnumber experts, in every field, by huge margins. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@KarlKnechtel: Why...did you necro-comment on this...? My sentiment was more metaphorical and more to the person aspect of telling someone that their question was simple and not necessarily tied to the fact that we had found a dupe and thus had closed it. I tend to avoid commenting on questions I close because I ain't moonlighting as a pin cushion. This was also a much longer time ago in a much more optimistic era. I don't know what you aimed to achieve by commenting here. — Makoto 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
...I aimed to share information on the Meta site, in the usual way? — Karl Knechtel 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@KarlKnechtel: Not on a Meta answer that is attached to a question with a max of 9k views that doesn't get all that much traffic, surely? Did you want a new conversation about it or something? — Makoto 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jlawler
Thank you. I set everything to OFF, but I had to join SO and create an account to do so. — jlawler 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
I followed some links. Don't remember exactly, I don't really keep track of that sort of thing. It seemed like an appropriate response to the answer content. I don't particularly care about the dates on content on Meta, for the same reason that I wouldn't on the main site (except insofar as technical content can become obsolete). — Karl Knechtel 24 secs ago
 
10:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@KevinB FWIW proposed prerequisite reading was supposed to kick in long before anything absurd happens - at less than 10 answers (ideally, 5 or 6). That's because it was supposed to help folks like me who read all prior answers prior to posting anyway. Primary purpose was to make things more convenient for myself and you can think of taming the issue of piling thoughtless repeats more like as kind of a beneficial side effect — gnat 1 min ago
 

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