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12:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Creative AIs
@Cerbrus First off it isn't a fanboy rhetoric, we are going to get to a point where AR/VR/AI systems are going to be how we eventually consume information. Not some brick you hold in your hand. Almost all companies agree on this what debated is the timeline it will take to get there. This is not some future dream like it was 60+ years ago. AI has been picking up speed because of the improvements in hardware/algorithms, look at the advancements we made since the windows 95 days, AI has shaped the way we digest content already, this isn't about chatbots like chatGPT its about AI as a whole. — Creative AIs 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Post only content that from your own knowledge is correct & give credit for what you didn't do--no other meta content. That is all there is to it. — philipxy 6 secs ago
 
 
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2:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clonkex
@PeterMortensen In Chrome, if you view a page in a language other than one you speak, it will offer to translate once or always. If you tell it to always translate, when the page loads it will load with the original language momentarily and then translate automatically. Just so you know what the behaviour is. — Clonkex 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobH
I don't know what all the fuss is about. If your rep's high enough, you can opt out of seeing ads. (I did as soon as I got that privilege. And my ad blocker catches any that slip past that.) — RobH 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alvi15
No one's telling you to stop using AI to answer, FWIW a Moderator told you it's OK as long as you review AI answers to follow the "answer rules". But the answers weren't and hence got curated, like everyone else's. — Alvi15 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alvi15
Although in my very honest opinion, the main core of the problem is another type ofwhen new contributors wanted to accomplish what they wanted to do disregarding the rules. — Alvi15 16 secs ago
 
3:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
It is quite unclear what you expect from this question... At very least consider if you are asking about "specific-question" to link to the question. While making an edit consider to clarify what you want as result and possibly explain what "AI bot" you hint at. — Alexei Levenkov 59 secs ago
 
3:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It's not a bot. We have no AIs or bots closing questions. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@CodyGray well ... technically .. "community" :P and it closes questions in some cases, like an OP accepting a duplicate. — Tom 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Community doesn't ever make the decision to close questions. It only implements the decision of the author of the question to mark their own question as a duplicate. (Yes, I know you're pedantically nitpicking, @Tom.) — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@CodyGray: I had made so many edits to this question already omg dude ಠ_ಠ — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I'm a bit confused. You seem to be fixating on the first two words in the title of the proposed duplicate ("disable scrolling"), but the answer to that question is to set touch-action to none, and that's exactly what you said you did to solve the problem. So... how/why is it not a duplicate? Why do you think that the duplicate closure is/was a mistake? — Cody Gray ♦ 40 secs ago
 
4:13 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dcromley
#Alexei Levenkov - "link to the question:" I had (SO# 75152969), which was edited into a link. #Cody Gray - "Community doesn't ever:" Well I didn't close it. Who did? #Makoto - "I had made so many edits:" Sorry I capitolized "bounty". #Cody Gray - "I'm a bit confused:" Yes, "touch-action" solved my problem, but my problem wasn't "scrolling". A tough crowd in here. I hope you guys have a good time. Thanks for SO. It's good. — dcromley 1 min ago
 
 
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5:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Haseeb Mir
I would love to see a tool which can detect AI generated code and Human generated code ? I mean we can detect the essays, long paragraphs of content but how would you actually detect the AI generated code ? — Haseeb Mir 47 secs ago
 
6:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Modus Tollens
@dcromley Off-topic, but none of the people you "mentioned" in your comments by using # will be notified. You can only mention one other user by using @, so you should answer in separate comments and use @<username> to get people notified. — Modus Tollens 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
"Per some meta thread, I made a comment about this yesterday, thinking it might be acted upon. So, can I blame some AI bot? It's no big deal because I got a great answer before it was closed, but I thought somebody might agree with me that it is an obvious mistake." => Relevance...? Which 'Meta' Thread...? — chivracq 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Willcock
"it can helps us write": a perfect example of why you should not rely on such tools, without reviewing the results. — Jonathan Willcock 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Drew Reese
@JonathanWillcock I saw that too, couldn't help but think it was left in on purpose. — Drew Reese 9 secs ago
 
6:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"Community" (uppercase) is the name of a bot which steps in to close questions as a duplicate when their author agrees that they are. That's not what happened in this/your case. Another user who holds a gold tag badge in one of the tags on your question marked it as a duplicate. They are not a bot; they're a real person. We grant users who have demonstrated expertise in the subject matter the ability to single-handedly mark questions as duplicates because, often, judging a duplicate requires subject-matter expertise. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
If using touch-action solved your problem, then why do you say that your question is not a duplicate? The two questions appear to have had exactly the same answer. This is how we define duplicates: resolved in the same way. It doesn't matter what the title says. The title is the least useful thing to look at, since it relies on the person who knows the least (the asker, by definition) correctly diagnosing/summarizing the problem. — Cody Gray ♦ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@devlincarnate that's basically an XY problem. Instead of "I want to do X" -> "ask on SO", it now becomes "I want to do X" -> "Ask ChatGPT" -> "I didn't get a satisfying answer" -> "ask on SO about the broken ChatGPT code". Cut out the middleman there and just ask straight up. — VLAZ 9 secs ago
 
7:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pranav Hosangadi
Coming back to this discussion the next day, and in light of the sob-story you've posted to your profile, I feel like the intention was never to help people or contribute meaningfully to Stack Overflow. You just wanted somewhere to experiment with your (frankly crap) AI and are upset we don't want to be your guinea pigs. — Pranav Hosangadi 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pranav Hosangadi
You were told in no uncertain terms that your contributions as a human were very welcome here, yet you want to cry persecution that we're "not welcoming". IMO this is the experience of 100% of people who claim that SO is "toxic" -- you're just upset you weren't allowed to participate your way — Pranav Hosangadi 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
"Yes and no, but mostly yes." I love clear answers. In that regard I would suggest that the answer to "Are all..." must be "No" without any additions as long as there is one example to the contrary or simply "Yes" otherwise. It's okay to then continue with "But most are..." or "But using them as support is okay" or whatever. — Trilarion 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
"it's not exactly per-se banned beyond just ChatGPT" this part (and the whole comment) should maybe also be part of the answer. — Trilarion 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Please note that ChatGPT is only temporarily banned. This may suggest that there may be conditions that would make the use of these tools ok, if only they would fulfill them. Since there is probably nothing special about ChatGPT any AI that fulfills these conditions (being better than the average human answerer here maybe?) might be okay. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidW
I'm not sure wrongly indented Python is a good indication of an AI generated post — DavidW 34 secs ago
 
8:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thomas Weller
@SecurityHound: "we" might just one of those new pronouns people can choose. No indication of plural. If you edit it away, you are probably considered a racist or something. — Thomas Weller 16 secs ago
 
8:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rich N
The question is 'Is there some expectation now that if question is simple enough for ChatGPT to answer, it shouldn't be asked on Stack Overflow, or it will be downvoted?'. ChatGPT isn't 'orthogonal' to the question, the question is about ChatGPT. The answer is 'no', at least until ChatGPT can provide reliable answers. At that point I suspect the community will expect that posters ask an AI first as part of 'reasonable' research, just as currently we expect a poster to at least ask Google first. It's possible that LLMs will never reach the point of providing reliable answers, of course. — Rich N 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Considering the changes to the OP's profile, it seems that they actually had no intention of learning from their mistakes, or understanding the reasons why their content wasn't allowed. Disappointing... — Larnu 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Thanks! The excerpt read way too much like marketing-speak to me, and, worse, missed the most important thing, which is to explain how the tag should be used (in this case, as in most cases, note that it should only be used for programming questions). I made some revisions to that. It is what most people struggle to write, compared with the long-form wiki. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
@CodyGray OK... I am fine with your excerpt, but is it really necessary to include in every tag excerpt that it should be used only for programming questions? AFAIK, SO is all about programming questions... — MrUpsidown 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thomas Weller
"People want their questions answered." - that may be true for the person who asks. Other people want to answer questions (help vampires or what we call them), or maybe just gain reputation because it makes them feel and look good (rep whores). These two groups benefit a lot from AI generated content. — Thomas Weller just now
 
9:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I wish it weren't, but experience says that it is... Especially for things that are not primarily programming, like use of Google services, the mere existence of the tag is often enough to convince people that any/every question about that service is on-topic here. Therefore, we should take every step available to us and make every effort that we can to mitigate that perception. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
9:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by A moskal escaping from Russia
I wouldn't discard the person who asks and the person who answers (in this case) are the same (or somehow closely related). — A moskal escaping from Russia 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
All right. Got your point. Thanks. — MrUpsidown 56 secs ago
 
10:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Polygnome
I think you miss one important point: the AI ban isn't because it is AI. No one has something against useful tools. On the contrary, there are many useful tools our there like SmokeDetector that the community loves and uses. The problem with AI answers is that they are often bad or just wrong and improperly vetted, thus, doing more harm then good because they look correct at first glance and might mislead users. The ban on AI is to help making sure users get actual, useful help. That has always been the goal, and I think everyone would love it if AI can be used to make that easier. — Polygnome 1 min ago
 
10:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"On your question, we see a banner which clearly identifies who closed the question:" the author does not see information for who closed the question. It's intentionally hidden from them. Here is what I see on this question of mine. Note that it was me who closed it. And even then the notification tries to educate me on what duplicate closure is and doesn't tell me who the close voters are. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@VLAZ edited to account for that and correspondingly be less accusatory. — Karl Knechtel 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Yes, "touch-action" solved my problem, but my problem wasn't "scrolling"" Yes, it did. The reason touch-action solves your problem is because scrolling happens otherwise. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@AmoskalescapingfromRussia I see no real reason for this suspicion. — VLAZ 53 secs ago
 
11:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@DavidW It's not (and I don't intend to suggest otherwise in this post). But it's an indication that the poster didn't check the answer to make sure it worked (and indeed, the poster here has confirmed in a now-deleted comment that they "didn't run the code to double check it was functional"). — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
 
11:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
Oh that's new to me, I thought they could see who did closed the question and I was actually relying on it a bit for they can call me out directly in case they needed more tailored explanation. To be fair I was kind of sensing OP might not see the relation entirely between the two Q/As in this case, and so I should probably have taken the time to explain to them directly when I did close their question. But indeed I'm a human, and have other stuff going on sometimes. Anyway, I hope I'll do better next time. — Kaiido 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
 
12:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@SecurityHound hold on, I was told that deleting a question simply doesn't prevent its low score from counting towards a Q-ban. Are we now saying that the deletion itself counts against the user? That seems awful. Users who recognize that a question is bad and not improvable should be incentivized to delete them, not punished. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@MisterMiyagi the system is awful, though. To escape from the Q-ban, the system expects the user to un-delete the question and improve it, even though it is a duplicate. Worse yet, it might have been caused by a typo that was realized too slowly. If someone can ask the same question with much better quality by starting over, I say they should not be expected to overcome the downvotes the original version got (especially since people who downvoted will rarely have any incentive nor motivation to come back and undo the downvote). — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
12:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Wait. Holy yam. I just read in the FAQ there: "Additionally, deletion itself counts against questions less than 30 days old when deleted if others have invested time into answering or moderating (editing/reviewing) the question." So - if I see a question that I think is bad, but potentially salvageable with cooperation from the OP, I am now disincentivized from editing to improve it in case OP independently figures out the problem, deletes an acknowledged-still-bad question, and now I have indirectly contributed to a Q-ban for someone who acted reasonably. — Karl Knechtel 42 secs ago
 
1:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "can I blame some AI bot?": If it was on Quora, you most certainly could. — Peter Mortensen 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@KarlKnechtel - Any questions that are asked are considered. I will just say that asking a question then deleting it, isn’t behavior, that is positive. If a question is closed due to it being a typo, the question, probably shouldn’t have been asked in the first place. Users who are question ban, rarely, act responsibly since a question ban is a result of their own actions and is a summation of their contributions — Security Hound 24 secs ago
 
2:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine
@Makoto No, I don't think it does - the OP is asking why they didn't receive a warning, not how to get out of the ban. The OP apparently didn't see any warning, so the bug appears to be valid in this case. — EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Consider this answer. It's obviously nonfunctional at a glance." Aside from that, the human commentary doesn't relate to the code; it's commenting about reasons not to use Python (which would normally be edited out of any other answer for a Python question anyway; it's an off-topic rant, even if not written with ranting tone) followed by advertising for the AI service in question (flaggable as spam even if it weren't anything to do with AI). — Karl Knechtel 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine
This question is not a duplicate of the FAQ on how to get out of a question ban - it's about why the OP didn't get a warning that they were about to be banned (which they apparently didn't). — EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Kaiido I personally follow a question I close as a duplicate, just in case OP or somebody else contests it, I'd be able to see the comment. It's OP and users without a CV privilege (3k rep) who don't see the close voters. At least not directly - checking the timeline will show the close voters but few know of this, so it's not something I'd rely on — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
2:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
@VLAZ I also do, sometimes, mainly with new users for which I'd assume the notification system might be obscure. But here given the OP's reputation is above 1K and since I was expecting them being able to reach out to me, I didn't. I'll certainly will next time I've got to dupe-hammer between two fires. — Kaiido 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by l4mpi
"How is this any different than a real software development job?" - for starters, a real software developer tests their code before releasing it, instead of throwing AI generated crap at the customer and then waiting for bug reports tto roll in... — l4mpi 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skinnedKnuckles
ALWAYS edit the question and NEVER post a new one. If you post a new one you are vulnerable to downvotes for deleting a question and or for posting a duplicate question. I tried posting a new one and ended up with 4 downvotes in the process. — skinnedKnuckles 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skinnedKnuckles
ALWAYS edit the question and NEVER post a new one. If you post a new one you are vulnerable to downvotes for deleting a question and or for posting a duplicate question. I tried posting a new one and ended up with 4 downvotes in the process. — skinnedKnuckles 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skinnedKnuckles
ALWAYS edit the question and NEVER post a new one. If you post a new one you are vulnerable to downvotes for deleting a question and or for posting a duplicate question. I tried posting a new one and ended up with 4 downvotes in the process. — skinnedKnuckles 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skinnedKnuckles
ALWAYS edit the question and NEVER post a new one. If you post a new one you are vulnerable to downvotes for deleting a question and or for posting a duplicate question. I tried posting a new one and ended up with 4 downvotes in the process. — skinnedKnuckles 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skinnedKnuckles
ALWAYS edit the question and NEVER post a new one. If you post a new one you are vulnerable to downvotes for deleting a question and or for posting a duplicate question. I tried posting a new one and ended up with 4 downvotes in the process. — skinnedKnuckles 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skinnedKnuckles
ALWAYS edit the question and NEVER post a new one. If you post a new one you are vulnerable to downvotes for deleting a question and or for posting a duplicate question. I tried posting a new one and ended up with 4 downvotes in the process. — skinnedKnuckles 1 min ago
 
3:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skinnedKnuckles
Security Hound & Karl knechtel I appreciate your discussion. After my original question was closed, I deleted it in order to "post a new one". That second version was also closed this time with a downvote so I deleted it in ordrer to "post a new one" which was answered and marked as a solution. should have walked away at that point but I undeleted my deleted question and fixed them. Now I got 3 more downvotes for posting duplicate questions. Instead of**"post a new one"** it should say "post a different question". — skinnedKnuckles 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
It seems that there was a setting that needed to be enabled that will turn on the URL pasting. They're working on getting that going. That will only allow copy pasting but won't allow pasting from a clipboard. To do the latter, we'll need to build that in, which will take more time. Thanks so much for bringing this to our attention, @Laurel! — Catija ♦ 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V2Blast
I've removed the status-review tag from this post since Ham's response already addresses the specific concern here. — V2Blast ♦ 31 secs ago
 
3:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ggorlen
"They don't have the patience for the prose or the rules or the structure or the ceremony or any of that B.S. we put in front of them, since it's a barrier to getting their question answered." They may perceive it this way, but actually, failure to observe these "ceremonies" is the barrier to getting their question answered, or at least should continue to be, if we care at all about building a quality community resource. — ggorlen 1 min ago
 
4:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@RichN: ChatGPT is very orthogonal to this conversation. It doesn't matter if you ask your friend who works at Google, your college buddy who you had that one programming class with that one time, or a rubber duck that you nicknamed "ChatGPT" with a Stick-It Note. Who you ask first doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you asked an AI first. No one cares who you asked first when you ask your question on Stack Overflow so long as you've done sufficient research to your problem and can demonstrate that here on Stack Overflow. — Makoto 1 min ago
 
4:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
Most of the comments here seem to be constructive, there might be some that come off a bit accusatory, but lets keep in mind tone is difficult to decipher on the internet. Your profile currently seems to be doing the very thing you are accusing other users to have done (disrespecting and accusing other users). — Abdul Aziz Barkat 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by UnknownDrone
@AbdulAzizBarkat You might not know this as I deleted my comments but go look at the edits when people said something sounded rude or was unneeded I changed it. No one is asking people to be perfect — UnknownDrone 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@ggorlen: Yes, you make my point. We intentionally put the barriers in front of the user. The user then dances around those barriers. They run into friction in both cases because people just want their question answered. Do I care if they run into friction? Not particularly, but the people who want their question answered very much care. The company also purports to care but for the life of me I can't entirely put my full stock of faith into that... — Makoto 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
In skimming this, I believe that you've said plenty on your perspective and where you stand on the matter, and the community has also voiced their reaction and opinion to where you stand on the matter as well. I don't...really see a lot of value in continuing to brow-beat people in edits to your main question as responses to comments. If you as a human want to continue to contribute to the site, you're welcome to do so, but we have made our opinion about incorporating AI crystal clear to you. — Makoto 1 min ago
 
5:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Oh wow, you just played the victim card in your profile... Mate, the entire negative attitude to you is because of your toxicity in your answer and comments. — Cerbrus 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by UnknownDrone
Irony left the chat ... — UnknownDrone 56 secs ago
 
6:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wjandrea
@Karl They've edited their profile now and seem to have removed the "clear intent to circumvent Stack Overflow policy" but also quoted you on that, which I don't understand. — wjandrea 1 min ago
 
6:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Strange that someone in that position is familiar enough with Meta etc. to do that.... — Karl Knechtel 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Siamaster
This comment section makes me miss being on site with my fellow programmers — Siamaster 15 secs ago
 
7:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Collectives do none of these things. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
CI/CD - this sounds like a magnet for off-topic content that belongs on devops.stackexchange.comDalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
 
8:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Sorry, but the title requires it. The collective will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Berthold
The friction, debate and (hopefully) eventual consensus is part of the process, right? We're certainly interested to see how the groups work together and we'll be guiding the conversations where needed. These processes (curating, answering) are happening already, so the idea is that if some/many of those people have more visibility into one another's activity, and can even connect/collaborate in some way, the processes will work even better. Less close/reopen wars, more understanding of the shared goals. — Berthold ♦ 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Berthold
"Amount of problematic flags" is a bit of a catch-all term, and we're looking at flags for behavior (spam/abuse), in addition to suspensions. Essentially focusing on users who are "in good standing". — Berthold ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Berthold
@user4581301 I'm so pleased that someone enjoyed the subtle reference. I'd probably lean more toward Federation comparisons but with the product name, I can't blame ya for going Borg. — Berthold ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Berthold
@DalijaPrasnikar We'll be inviting people from DevOps to collaborate and plan as well, to see how best to navigate those potential issues. — Berthold ♦ 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Berthold
@SecurityHound We'll continue to work with the provider collective customers on how to adhere to citation guidelines and do proper attribution. And we'll do the same with the new collectives, working with the Recognized Members who will be doing article review. — Berthold ♦ 1 min ago
 
8:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
When I visit the question today it does already have answers elsewhere. The statement is absolutely accurate. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
@revision1-2: I suggest you edit the title to state what you want to change instead of what the problem is. At least- that's how I like to write my feature-requests. — user 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
It's not accusing the author, but the reader. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Dharman also, not really "accusing" either. It's "informing". — VLAZ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
@Berthold It was Trek or Degrassi, but I couldn't figure out how to make Degrassi even remotely funny. — user4581301 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Tough balancing act, incentivizing askers recognizing and removing a weak or unanswerable question without also incentivizing bad deletion behaviour. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Preemptive comment: Since things that don't matter bothers you, consider reading meta.stackoverflow.com/tags/feature-request/info before complaining that noone loves you because not everyone agrees with your proposal. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gregsdennis
@Ethan it seems to happen intermittently. I can't repro it at will either. Please see the other issues that I linked in a comment above for a more detailed explanation of efforts to analyze the problem. — gregsdennis 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Do we have any data that would indicate why there was increased engagement from those who joined a collective? Is it just a nested layer of further gamification on top of rep? — Kevin B 40 secs ago
 
9:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@EJoshuaS-StandwithUkraine: A year later and the bug hasn't been fixed? While that wouldn't exactly surprise me, surely we're not talking about that situation in the second instance. — Makoto 1 min ago
 
9:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Not completely clear what Feedback (if any...?) you are looking for from this Thread/Announcement...(?) // I find the Terminology used a bit confusing/not completely clear...: "Topic(s)" (Definition needed...?) = "Collective(s)"? = "Subject(s)"? = "Subject Area(s)"? = "Area(s) of Expertise"? // "Disciplines*" => What do you mean?, what is that...? (=> Example(s) maybe...) // "Methodologies" => Could also give a few Examples..., (not sure those are even "On-Topic" for SO anyway...) — chivracq 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
No? People aren't going to go through the rigor of ensuring that the answer they see or read is comprehensible or useful for their use case. We already have cases of people copying code from Stack Overflow and putting it into production. This doesn't make that better; it actually makes it orders of magnitude worse. — Makoto 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by UnknownDrone
@PeterMortensen Hey I wanted to let you know I implemented some of the changes you were talking about. It has honestly been super helpful so thank you for that. All this weird back and forth aside, I genuinely wanted to thank you. — UnknownDrone 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Interesting choice. The R tag has evolved into a homework tag (just state the requirements and some input and the result will be produced, no questions aksed). — Peter Mortensen 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
"We recognize that the community will have many questions..." Not sure. Maybe not. From "These new collectives will look much the same as the collectives you see today" I rather expect not much of a change. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
"Tell us what we're getting out of this" a single page that is a combination leaderboard + question list and a clique of high rep "experts" who get to decide which posts are worthy of being recognized — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine
@Makoto Still, it really isn't a duplicate of the FAQ post on how to get out of a question ban (since the OP's not asking how to get unbanned, just why they weren't warned that they were about to be). — EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
I don't like the "The Recognized Member (RM) user role" much. It looks as if not all users are equal anymore and some users worth more than others. I would probably prefer not to see recommendations by someone I didn't choose, if that would be possible, because I would trust the votes by ordinary users more. So if these recommendations and badges could be made optional and I could choose not to see them, all for it. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@KevinB: So Stack Overflow all over again, or...? — Makoto 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
30% alleged increase in activity but "it doesn’t really manifest in the day-to-day for users"? That seems a bit odd. A bit like a phantom. And "no broadly noticeable feeling of added benefit" sounds really worrying. Also not sure about "a slower and more thoughtful rollout would have benefited everyone" in relation with Articles. There were like 10 articles after half a year. It's almost not possible to rollout slower. — Trilarion 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skinnedKnuckles
Yes I recognize the challenge. But it does seem quite clear to me that at least some moderators are quite cavalier in casting downvotes, some of which turn out to be unwarranted. I'd suspect users with reputations in the tens of thousands are exceptionally intelligent and, unlike me, may be vulnerable to an oversized ego. It leaves me wondering to whom they are accountable. Are their checks and balances in place for grumpy moderators, neglected by their parents, whose only consolation in life is identifying imperfection in others, culminating in a rash of unwarranted downvotes? — skinnedKnuckles 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
edit your post here to provide a link to those two answers you posted. — user 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Handled now, for the record. The second post was edited to contain a different answer. Deleting it immediately would've been fine though — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Evgeny
I edited it and changed it content and answered "wrong questions" as well — Evgeny 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Evgeny
I provided the links, you can see, these are totally different answers — Evgeny 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
Thanks for clarifying. please always edit all your clarifications into your question post instead of hiding them in the comments! Comments are for soliciting clarifications- not for providing them. Make sure people can understand your question just by reading the question post. — user 8 secs ago
 
10:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Berthold
Can you clarify what you mean by "duplicate targets for questions?" Is it a feature request for the ability to close questions as duplicates of articles? Let us know and from here, we'll be better equipped to provide a response and/or track this as feedback. — Berthold ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Berthold
One of the purposes of Articles is to provide long-form knowledge content. We've posted previously about the research behind the addition of a long-form content format, specifically under the section "Key findings: Articles". We're interested to learn more about how the community uses articles outside the context of a provider collective, and that will inform any future updates or changes to how they work. For now, they will continue to follow the established reputation conventions of Q&A. — Berthold ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
it was more or less an example, for how articles could be made useful for the purpose people come to SO. If there's an article up there for "Getting started with R" for example, and a new question is asked that directly answered in that article, are we expected to just post answers and reference the article? What purpose does the article serve in these scenarios. If the important bit in the article was instead a canonical Q&A pair it'd be more useful in this scenario if there's no connection. — Kevin B 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
Quoting Dalija's comment on the main post: "CI/CD - this sounds like a magnet for off-topic content that belongs on devops.stackexchange.com" — user 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
@Trilarion how about making an answer post so people can vote and comment? — user 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Effectively, to me I see no value in articles for improving the Q&A product. They sit entirely outside of it. — Kevin B 30 secs ago
 
11:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@user In answers I try to be more thorough, so it would mean more work and time which I don't want to spend right now. Anyone could say something similar in an answer, if he/she feels like. I don't mind. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
VLAZ's answer more or less covers that topic if I'm understanding what you're saying correctly, though more broadly. Effectively you feel that what the CM's decide is a good metric for users who should be able to recognize a given post or should be given the "recognized member" notice may not align with your own criteria for what makes good, useful, worthy of being recognized posts. There's certainly some very high rep users in tags I follow that post very low quality content often. — Kevin B 59 secs ago
 
11:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vaccano
Fight fire with fire. A machine learning algorithm fed enough real and ChatGPT answers could be trained to identity the fake ones. — Vaccano 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mbrig
I'm kinda lost on this feedback tbh? How is an ad for a course on docker/AWS/ML/etc less of a good fit for SO than one for an IDE or a profiling tool, that you slot into the "acceptable/decent ads" category? If anything, i'm not coming to SO to get told what IDE to use, but if I'm looking at "how to do <basic task> in docker", it seems like I'm the exact target audience for a "doing things in docker" course? — mbrig 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
The cause, by the way, is that the "Duplicate answers" autoflag gives absolutely no indication that the other answer was since modified and that the moderator might need to double-check that. — Ryan M ♦ 39 secs ago
 

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