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2:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@HenryEcker it already happened at least since March 2022, also from the Wizard™. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Ahh, yes that makes more sense. This issue would've been present in the version of the Stacks Editor from release of the Ask Wizard. I was mislead into thinking this was a recent issue because the search included in the question which limited search to just posts this year (which I did not notice). Thanks @AndrewT. — Henry Ecker ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
It is spelled "Stack Overflow", not "stackoverflow". Why is it so difficult to spell correctly? — Peter Mortensen 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
This seemed substantially easier to duplicate, even when not logged in, when the left-nav was disabled. You can go into the browser console and run StackExchange.topbar.toggleUnpinnedLeftNav() to toggle the left-nav on and off to see it makes a difference for you (without affecting your left-nav preference setting). — Makyen ♦ 55 secs ago
 
2:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
@HenryEcker The "problem" (URL) is present too in older posts (before 2022) but it grew up almost 4 times in 2022 and it's growing quickly. — Rubén 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robin
A bad answer is misdirecting and potentially damaging. A no answer keeps the door open for more research until the correct answer is found. There is nothing like getting an answer from someone who knows what he is talking about. — Robin just now
 
 
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4:43 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
Comment on deleted ChatGPT posts have multiple issues. Some are: A) Increased mod handling time (1.3x to 10x+) w/o developing specific userscript support, but even then would still have rate limits increasing time; B) For some cases, comments would result in a large number of inbox notifications for the OP, potentially swamping the notification for the moderator message, which is the important one; C) General policy is that we don't pillory users, which such comments could feel like, but should be weighed against usefulness in the future to other users and mods of clearly knowing it's ChatGPT. — Makyen ♦ 18 secs ago
 
5:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@JonathanWood - “I'm fine with not allowing Chat GPT content, but had no indication that's what happened here.” - You can see the contribution, run it the a ChartGPT detector, or are you talking about before you were told it was generated by ChartGPT? I caution you from using any answer generated by ChartGPT, in my experience, it’s almost certainly 100% wrong. — Security Hound 48 secs ago
 
5:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
I am not 100% sure (as I am normally only on Linux) and it is not a code dump, but here is an example I encountered today of a bogus answer. With 24 upvotes. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
5:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
I am beginning to get too cynical about plagiarism. I should probably take a break. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@SecurityHound: Actually, in this case, I thought the answer was quite good. — Jonathan Wood 14 secs ago
 
 
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7:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Wrong site. This is [meta] not Stack Overflow. — philipxy 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mladen B.
Just disable copy/paste in the answer box for new questions for 24 hours and give normal people a chance to provide an answer. There are js scripts which detect automated input of text, so you can always detect it properly. You're all programmers here, I hope :) — Mladen B. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@MladenB. erm, what if I want to copy/paste part of the question? Like the code? Or if I want to copy/paste something else - like a link? I shouldn't be allowed to do that? Or am I not fit to classify as a normal person? — VLAZ 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
Flag for moderator attention, and explain why you want the post unlocked. — Abdul Aziz Barkat 1 min ago
 
8:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Now unlocked. // — Samuel Liew ♦ 32 secs ago
 
8:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robby Cornelissen
I wouldn't worry about rendering the accepted answer incomplete by updating the question. That answer looks 100% ChatGPT-generated. A gentle soul even came in and put in all the formatting that ChatGPT doesn't yet know how to do. — Robby Cornelissen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thingamabobs
@PeterMortensen I think it is good to stay alert here. Sure it's just about "unicorn"-points and it should rather be about helping people and not about points, but it takes away the fun if you write an answer and see a copy of your code the next day on a different question or even the same and they get credit for it. Dosent feel right for me. — Thingamabobs 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thingamabobs
BTW: After encountering such situations, I do often check now if there is an older answer that does the exact same thing with might less or more votes, before I vote on them. — Thingamabobs 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Kanban boards aren't specific to software development. Neither are the more general task boards. — VLAZ 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Aside from that, questions should be specific to the way that a programmer would use the tool. We wouldn't take a question about, say, how to download a GitHub project intended for use as a standalone, end-user application, run its setup scripts, and use the program. — Karl Knechtel 57 secs ago
 
9:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Pointing out that there are closable questions that aren't closed is not a good argument. We know there are huge numbers of such questions. The number of people closing closable questions has always been insufficient compared to the number of questions being asked. — Robert Longson 48 secs ago
 
9:53 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
A tag existing for a product doesn't make any question about it on-topic either. [google-maps] has a tag, but that doesn't mean anything about Google Maps is on topic; you couldn't post a question about how to ensure that the route you get avoids tolls. The question still needs to adhere to the site's on-topic rules. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
 
10:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
A side discussion about plagiarism has been deleted. It doesn't need to be discussed here. The only thing you need to know is that plagiarism is not allowed, and if you find evidence of it, you should raise a flag for moderator attention on the plagiarized answer(s). We will investigate and take the appropriate action. Everyone develops their own heuristics for how to tell if something might be plagiarized. Staff is working on implementing features to better deal with plagiarism, including (but not limited to) a dedicated flag reason. But for now, just use a custom mod flag. — Cody Gray ♦ 6 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
There is no real consensus how to handle these types of questions, in my experience. Because Azure falls within the realm of a tool used by software developers (whether we want it or not), some people will treat it as if ANY question about Azure then becomes valid but others will stick to the "must be a practical programming problem" bit. Which is in the rules for sure, but it also creates pretty big tug o' wars about what is a programming problem or not. In the end it all depends on which pair of eyes lands on the question. The next question that is not a programming problem might stay open. — Gimby 3 mins ago
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
is duplicate:no really necessary when you also have closed:no ? And surely you don't get THAT many search results with both c++ and java/javascript tags? — Gimby 1 min ago
 
11:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@JonathanWood That is the trap that ChatGPT sets - it is exceptionally good at generating text. Exceptionally good, I'm jealous of what it can produce. So even if it is completely wrong, it will present that misinformation in a way that makes people have blind faith in it - and thus just dump answers wherever whenever without checking anything. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
11:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Teemu
There doesn't seem to be a specific feature request in the question, it just asks how to save a long search filter ..? — Teemu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter
@Teemu. The feature request is a “longer” search string. — Peter 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter
@Gimby The search string length is by far not sufficient. There are so many tags that I do not want to see. And there are more and more. The above is just one short example. — Peter 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Teemu
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lino
Can't you also ignore the tags you don't want to see? That way you could maybe cut out some of that length — Lino 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter
Hm, I just noticed, that my "Feature Request" tag vanished and was replaced by "support". Just for the readers of comments that cannot follow . . . — Peter 56 secs ago
 
11:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
@CodyGray It's annoying to find, because there aren't any convenient search keywords for it — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 20 secs ago
 
 
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12:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by geotheory
Sure they can flip their vote - they can unlike an out of date answer and like a new one. — geotheory 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Probably worth noting that the search returned some false positives for posts that are really referring to other questions on SO (e.g. as additional context or duplicate). It doesn't search for the exact URL https://www.stackoverflow.com but more like https://www.stackoverflow.com[*]. — Andrew T. 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Getz
@Makoto I read your link I and I don't see the connection between this answer post and the page you linked. Could you please help point out where it is? — Dan Getz 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Getz
@PatrickMevzek often it is translated, by the browser, as pointed out by Mike Nakis. — Dan Getz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
If you really don't want to see those tags, you can put them on "ignored tags" instead and set them to "hide". — Andrew T. just now
 
1:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
This is bizarre, since they updated the line before that to refer to saves, which was a far more recent change. — Laurel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Depending on the tags you want to not be displayed, as well, you might be able use wildcards. [c++] -[java*] would omit any posts with a tag that starts with Java (which would include both [java] and [javascript], along with several other tags). — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
You can almost do this with filters, (since there's no apparent limit to filtered tags) but there's nothing to filter closed/open questions. I posted a feature request of my own for that. — Laurel 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by double-beep
Relevant PR on the Stacks-Editor repo. — double-beep 36 secs ago
 
2:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SpencerG
This has been added in a recent version of the ask wizard. — SpencerG ♦ 9 secs ago
 
2:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SpencerG
I took a look into this and given the low impact here and the fact that the links still function, we are going to decline this one. — SpencerG ♦ 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Gimby: I get all that. It was suggested it is always wrong and I was just commenting that it was right here. But not looking to debate the merits of chatGPT. — Jonathan Wood 19 secs ago
 
2:51 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrick Mevzek
@DanGetz Except the user knows it is seeing a translation and not original site. It is at least displayed, if not even after an explicit action from him to ask its browser to translate. And I am pretty sure that the help section clearly says that questions should be in english, so user HAS this information but decides on purpose not to follow it (or maybe thinks the browser is also translation by some miracle in the opposite direction?). So we are back to "users are not reading the documentation prior to asking a question", and it is not a language issue at all... — Patrick Mevzek 41 secs ago
 
3:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Getz
@PatrickMevzek it can be easy to forget. I'm not arguing for the questions to remain, or for translating anything. Just reminding that you can't count on an inability to read English to stop someone, because certain browsers (Chrome at least) push uncareful users in that direction. — Dan Getz 26 secs ago
 
4:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
I think you meant to post this on the main SO site rather than Meta, but I doubt this would be on-topic there either. — F1Krazy 37 secs ago
 
4:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Salmon_of_Wisdom
@CodyGray The experiment goes live today and will run until February 1. — Salmon_of_Wisdom ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Salmon_of_Wisdom
I think this is a good point. I'll share this back as an idea for future testing. — Salmon_of_Wisdom ♦ 41 secs ago
 
5:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V2Blast
@Laurel: It's because this was an edit I made to the MSE search help page after that update, not realizing that SO had a customized version of the page. — V2Blast ♦ 37 secs ago
 
6:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
That was quick! — toolic 20 secs ago
 
6:16 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V2Blast
@toolic: Since it was just a copy and paste from MSE, it was a pretty straightforward change :) — V2Blast ♦ 16 secs ago
 
6:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rosie
I removed the status tag since it was closed as a duplicate. — Rosie ♦ 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rosie
We are going to dig into this one in a future sprint since it looks like this is still an issue. I updated the status to deferred. — Rosie ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rosie
I was asked to remove the tag since it couldn't be reproduced and since it looked like a duplicate of some older tickets. If that's not the case feel free to retag as status-review with details and screenshots of the bug you're seeing and we'll look into it. — Rosie ♦ 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rosie
The team is going to look into this one a bit deeper in a future sprint so I've updated the status to deferred. — Rosie ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rosie
I removed the tag because the work going into the new ask wizard meta.stackexchange.com/questions/377768/… will address the core problem. — Rosie ♦ just now
 
7:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
Great! I just tested it, the error is gone. Many thanks! — blackgreen ♦ 1 min ago
 
7:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
@Rosie It might be nice to have a status tag this cases or to close the question as "Changes to the system or to the circumstances affecting the asker have rendered it obsolete." — Rubén 1 min ago
 
8:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gregsdennis
I'm getting it on multiple feeds now. — gregsdennis 54 secs ago
 
8:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
In terms of what guidance to link to, there's also this MSE post: What should I keep out of my posts and titles?user 1 min ago
 
8:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Albert Marrero
I see value in using canonical tags as the services are named. — Albert Marrero 41 secs ago
 
9:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SpencerG
We reviewed this request just recently and are declining this request. — SpencerG ♦ 38 secs ago
 
9:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
@SpencerG is that because Staging Grounds will have canned comments? — user 54 secs ago
 
10:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by johnDanger
"Muddies the purpose of the site". As a for-profit company, isn't the purpose of the site to make money? They do this as accommodatingly as they can to increase traffic but just b/c we come for coding answers, does not mean that is the only purpose of the site. — johnDanger 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
No, they really cannot. Past a certain grace period, the system will not allow you to change votes on something that hasn't been edited in the interim. I've tried it many times. — Karl Knechtel just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V2Blast
See the subsequent discussion about the tag in November 2022: Let's [do] some blacklistingV2Blast ♦ 19 secs ago
 
 
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11:51 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mtraceur
The problem is that you are not good enough to be as quick and confident with your judgements of rudeness and badness as you think you are, so your false negative rate on downvotes, close votes, flags, duplicate reports, and so forth is too high. And even if by some chance you individually are not overshooting the mark, too many of the people on your side of this issue are. — mtraceur 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
No; Horrible idea, to easily abused by bots, if a comment is upvoted that amount of time then it shouldn’t be a comment — Security Hound 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mtraceur
One big example of premature/wrong/sloppy judgment rudeness: clumsily imprecise and inaccurate yet really fast closed-as-duplicate is such a common StackOverflow problem that for years we've seen questions written with proactive guards telling those of you who don't pay attention "no this is different than [other question], because [restatement of things you would already know if you actually turned on your brain when judging the question as low-quality]." — mtraceur 1 min ago
 

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