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12:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by My Car
@ZoestandswithUkraine what is MCVE? — My Car 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by My Car
@HenryEcker ok, now I know — My Car 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by My Car
@SebastianSimon ok, now I know — My Car 1 min ago
 
12:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by psubsee2003
@KarlKnechtel I completely disagree. There are problems that people have that can be easily solved by a tool/library. The problem is that the OP doesn't know the tool/library exists. So why do we need to make them jump through hopes just to get the tool. — psubsee2003 1 min ago
 
12:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
[ Boson ] New comment posted by My Car
@SebastianSimon ok, now I know — My Car 23 secs ago
 
1:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
The comments are no longer moving in a productive direction and several have been removed. @Lukewarm if you have more information/considerations than what is currently listed in your question feel free to make a clarifying edit as opposed to adding them in the comments. — Henry Ecker ♦ 12 secs ago
 
 
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3:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nimantha
 
 
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4:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mario Perez
I would edit the question if it was related to same issue I was trying to get help with before — Mario Perez 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by My Car
@MarioPerez Almost the same. Just add an option to choose which to use — My Car 1 min ago
 
5:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
One consideration is whether there are already answers, and whether editing the question would invalidate existing answers. In this case, there's already an answer that only talks about ListView.builder and Column. — Gino Mempin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
[ Boson ] New comment posted by My Car
@GinoMempin so you suggest I ask a new question? — My Car 8 secs ago
 
6:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Neither of these seem like good questions. Unless you clearly specify what you want to use them for, these seem incredibly open-ended. Perhaps you should not ask these questions like this at all? — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
FWIW, it looks like the asker accepted the duplicate. — MisterMiyagi 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by KGG
@MisterMiyagi Sorry Im not very familiar with the functionality of the system that well, but from my observation, after answering the question and marked as completed, it was closed as duplicate, I'm unsure if it was closed by a privileged user/moderator or was reported, although I'm unsure. — KGG 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sandeep Roy
Can I remove this question now, since it became irrelevant? — Sandeep Roy 1 min ago
 
6:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flavius Stands with Russia
what if he begins his post by saying I am trying to build a phishing website and have a problem with how to capture user input with JavaScript, this wouldn't be closed or it only deserves downvotes? — Flavius Stands with Russia 1 min ago
 
 
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7:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
It's also good to consider just one tag: [google-sites] for everything, since there will be no more questions about [google-classic-sites] — TheMaster 32 secs ago
 
8:28 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by apt-get_install_skill
Appreciating this decision and hope that any AI-generated postings will be banned on Stack Overflow and other QA forums. Could you or someone else explain the concrete criteria to decide if a user is using ChatGPT for answers? Is volume (answers/time period) the only criteria? Also (if you're allowed to share this information): Is there any automation that detects such users or is it all based on the community/staff? — apt-get_install_skill 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
It also glitches in Firefox. It appears to be due to SE using a .toggle() on the class that controls stickiness and size of that <header> element. The .toggle() is performed when a SE-custom event, sticky-change, is fired on the element. I didn't track down what fires the event, but, presumably, it's in a scroll event handler and doesn't implement some type of hysteresis, or the hysteresis is too small, such that it just repeatedly fires when the scrollY value lands on or passes through the threshold. It could be implemented based on something else, but it's that type of issue. — Makyen ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Thanks, @Zoe. (Or should I call you DenverCoder9?) Very helpful. I've added this fact to the official record. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
My "one step down" is 5 lines, which did not trigger the effect. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Avrohom Yisroel
Thanks to all of you for the comments. As far as I can see from [the revisions ](stackoverflow.com/posts/75270875/revisions), the tag was there from when the question was first asked, but the question doesn't appear in my filtered list now, so I guess it was some sort of caching issue. — Avrohom Yisroel 51 secs ago
 
9:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
If the question was edited in the grace period, it won't show in the revisions I suspect that'd the case here, @AvrohomYisroel , considering its age in the screen shot. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Ask about how to get unstuck deciding. Don't ask which you should use. Strategy for “Which is better” questionsphilipxy 1 min ago
 
9:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
I am confused. Your new question is identical to that of your old question, which got an answer, which you accepted — Security Hound 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
Both questions arguably are pretty bad questions, since your seeking an opinion, which historically made horrible questions — Security Hound 21 secs ago
 
10:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joundill
@CodyGray It doesn't matter too much either way :P But I'd like to see SO predict which users will get elected as mods in the next few years and include their contributions under the mod column too — Joundill 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
GPT can be asked to express certain opinions, or craft rebuttals to arguments. People who cite GPT output to call someone else Wrong on the Internet (TM) are either self-deluding, way too naive, or trolling. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Content generated by ChatGPT is banned. See "Temporary policy: ChatGPT is banned". Also note "Should we flag human-written questions that use code generated by ChatGPT?" for some subtleties." This part reads awkwardly. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Neither question is appropriate. This is clearly closable as "primarily opinion based". In particular, the question that was actually asked, provides no objective basis for answerers to choose in your specific case, never mind in general. — Karl Knechtel 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
To be clear, "No MCVE" corresponds to "Needs debugging details" in the close dialog. — Karl Knechtel 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@PeterMortensen good point, and seems worth separate discussion. I suspect it's been done on Meta before, though... ? — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
11:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@KarlKnechtel you're right. I tried it with [html] -[css] and on update I was getting questions also tagged with the CSS tag. It's then the same as “X questions with new activity” showing incorrect information in windows with multiple tag filters. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
I'm pretty sure we have an on-site dupe for this. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@KarlKnechtel Yes. I just can find the MSE one easier. — VLAZ 15 secs ago
 
 
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1:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
I don't think this is a viable work around. Can't keep changing machine wide settings to overcome an issue on one page of a single website. — rene 1 min ago
 
1:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by KGG
My monitor size is 4k, I tested it also on regular HD, the only reason you see the small recording is because I didn't want to upload a 1GB+ file showing something simple :) — KGG 42 secs ago
 
 
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4:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
What does not appear to work? What steps are you following? What does the image link look like when you edit the question? Can you edit your post to clarify some of these things? — Henry Ecker ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rub&#233;n
@TheMaster What about if we try that firsts and just in case of having to much confussion then split again? Assumption: Most of the people asking about Google Sites are new users and their research efforts are minimal and centered on Youtube rather than SO posts. — Rubén 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rub&#233;n
... or just update the tag excerpts to suggest to use [google-sites] for new Sites and classic Sites. — Rubén 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight
@TheMaster the legacy platform might be dead and not getting any more questions, but some (all?) of it's answers will be wrong for the new platform. That means we need to keep them separate. — Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight 23 secs ago
 
5:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Side note for when you get attaching images sorted out: Why should I not upload images of code/data/errors?. An image of something that doesn't need to be an image can kill an otherwise legitimate question faster than just about anything else you can do here. — user4581301 29 secs ago
 
6:03 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "shouldn't we be responsible for validating our answers": Yes, but many only post to get reputation points, nothing else. That usually results in plagiarism of various kinds, but ChatGPT made it at least 10 times worse. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Repro'd easily, the new Stacks Editor put www.stackoverflow.com as the link placeholder. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Interesting. This explains why I've seen so much spam getting posted that links to www.stackoverflow.com. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
6:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
It appears to be a result of the hardcoded dummyLink in insertCommonmarkLinkCommand. — Henry Ecker ♦ just now
 
6:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
@SecurityHound What does "questions that ask for question" mean? — PM 2Ring 1 min ago
 
7:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@PM2Ring - It was a typo, I was indicating, I don't find "give me the code" questions helpful nor do I find any answer that entertains those questions as being helpful. I very much believe that someone must have at least attempted to solve the problem themselves. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
@SecurityHound Please try to be a little more careful with your comments. I don't find comments that contain typos or incoherent grammar particularly helpful, but unfortunately I cannot downvote them. ;) — PM 2Ring 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco
I think it would be better if the post was migrated to Meta Stack Exchange (meta.stackexchange.com), since this is a problem that occurs on other sites on the network, see the test I did, performing the same search cited in the question, but now on Stack Exchange, returned 166 questions that had this link to SO (stackexchange.com/… 3A2023), apparently only 3 that are non-SO questions. — Marco 50 secs ago
 
7:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
How do we know the provided answer was from Chat GPT? — Jonathan Wood 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
"There doesn't appear to be any mechanism for questioning or otherwise trying to reverse such a decision." You've just used the mechanism for questioning or otherwise trying to reverse such a decision. — MisterMiyagi 39 secs ago
 
8:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@MisterMiyagi: Sure it is. That's why my question immediately got two downvotes, and was closed. — Jonathan Wood just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
That your request was denied doesn't make it not the right place, @JonathanWood . — Larnu 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco
@JonathanWood Since you tried to solve it on Meta Stack Exchange and Meta Stack Overflow (via this post) and did not get the necessary clarifications, I suggest you contact the SO staff via stackoverflow.com/contact?referrer=https://stackoverflow.co (I would do the same). — Marco 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"How do we know the provided answer was from Chat GPT?" The mods have advised that they do have a variety of tools/processes they use to identify them, along with support from the community to help identify them. The mods, however, don't give explicitly details on that intentionally though, as doing so would mean that malicious users would find circumventing them easier (similar to how the question/answer ban algorithm is not shared). — Larnu 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rub&#233;n
One of the problems of this question is that it doesn't show to be aware about the temporary ban, so I think that it's fair that it was closed as duplicate of the corresponding post. Once you have learned about the ban, about and about you might post a new question or edit this one explaining why it should not is a duplicate. — Rubén 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Larnu: My post wasn't about anything that could or could not be denied. I was seeking clarification. And the question was immediately downvoted twice. That doesn't sound like the site considers this the right place. — Jonathan Wood 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Rubén: In fact, I had read about banning Chat GPT content. And I have no problem with that. My issue was not understanding why an answer was deleted. I have no information (still) that tells me the answer was from Chat GPT. — Jonathan Wood 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Marco: Thanks. — Jonathan Wood 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"And the question was immediately downvoted twice. That doesn't sound like the site considers this the right place." No; it means that two people saw a title that says "answer deleted with no explanation", determined quickly that there is a perfectly reasonable explanation, and judged your complaint to be groundless. — Karl Knechtel 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
People are most likely disagreeing with your opinion that we can't dispute, and that the answer was deleted without explanation. There is a place, here, and there likely was a reason; on one of the post the answers that were deleted; very likely the offending user posting multiple ChatGPT answers they were all deleted; one of those may well state the reason in the comments. The user is also suspended, and would have received a mod message; so there would have been communication with the user — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@KarlKnechtel: Exactly. Asking a question was not wanted here. That was my point. — Jonathan Wood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rub&#233;n
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Exactly. Asking a question was not wanted here." No, that isn't what I said at all. A question not being welcome is not the same thing as not getting the answer you want. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Rubén: Thanks. Although it's interesting that the second question received 21 downvotes. :-) — Jonathan Wood 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Isn't there a more specific duplicate? — Peter Mortensen 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@KarlKnechtel: If people rejected a question because they knew the answer, that means they didn't want the question being asked. Only wanting questions for which no one knows the answer makes zero sense. Rejecting a question because someone knows an answer means you don't want a question. — Jonathan Wood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Questions aren't rejected by users, @JonathanWood . There is no process for that (though the staging ground comes close). — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rub&#233;n
Discussing downvotes on this and the releated questions looks to derail the converstaion. There are already a lot of discussions about how vote works in Meta. — Rubén 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"If people rejected a question" They didn't. Downvoting isn't rejection of the question. "Only wanting questions for which no one knows the answer makes zero sense." No, that isn't the explanation I proposed for the downvotes. The problem isn't "people knew an answer to the question"; the problem is that you came in with an incorrect premise and saw fit to accuse others of wrongdoing on the basis of that premise. — Karl Knechtel 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
For that matter, it's not even clear what you hoped should be the process instead. For instance, did you expect the moderator to comment on the question after deleting that answer, to explain why it was being deleted? Email you? Something else? — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
I downvoted this because I disagree with the assertion that a moderator deleted that without reason, and the assumption that there's no way to appeal this. For the rest, this question is where it should be. To be clear: I'm not rejecting this question, I'm rejecting a few false assertions in it. — Cerbrus 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Re the accusation of wrongdoing, it's also not a good look that you apparently saw fit to go over our heads to m.se initially, before getting booted back here. That really makes it look like you are trying to suggest that the moderator did something wrong and should be punished for it, and like you didn't even consider the possibility of what is actually the case: there's a policy involved that doesn't entail any responsibility to notify you nor offer a public justification.Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Cerbrus: Can you show me where I stated it was deleted without reason? — Jonathan Wood 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
The post was flagged by a user and handled by a diamond moderator who chose to remove the answer. The author of that answer was then contacted with a message explaining why their content was removed. That user is free to reply to the message they receive and we work with them where possible. We do not (in general) discuss the specifics of sanctions with anyone other than the user being affected. — Henry Ecker ♦ 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Even when I follow the steps on Google I don't even see so much as a link" What does this mean? What steps are you talking about? — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Related (but not good candidates): Can we close questions that put most code in an image?, Should we edit a question to transcribe code from an image to text? (some answers talk about closing, but not in any detail), and Propose new reasons to close questions with insufficient information (the question uses SO posts with images as examples) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@HenryEcker: I appreciate the explanation you provided. That's all I was looking for. I'm fine with not allowing Chat GPT content, but had no indication that's what happened here. FWIW, I think it would be helpful to everyone following a question if there was an indication that's why content was deleted. It would help build awareness, and help those who felt like the rug was pulled out from under them. — Jonathan Wood 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Desktop settings": Referring to Windows? — Peter Mortensen 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
@JonathanWood I almost always leave a comment when I delete posts, where it might not be immediately obvious why I did so, just except chatGPT posts. Due to the sheer number of them, leaving a comment under each of them for the occasional 10k user would be rather impractical. I've considered writing a userscript to automate this, but I haven't gotten around it so far. — blackgreen ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Desktop settings": Referring to Windows? It isn't in GNOME (at least not the version I am using (GNOME 3)). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@blackgreen: Looks like you were in fact the one who deleted the answer in question. I don't have any idea how many ChatGPT posts there are, but can understand how it might easily get out of hand. For me, I hadn't even consider this as a possible reason, so I was in the dark. I suspect this will be even more of an issue in the future. Perhaps a mechanism will be added for deleting such content in a transparent way like there is for duplicate questions. — Jonathan Wood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@JonathanWood you post states "And did so without explanation." So you are saying no explanation/reason was given. — Larnu 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Desktop settings": Referring to Windows? It isn't in GNOME (at least not the version I am using (GNOME 3)) or LXDE. — Peter Mortensen 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Larnu: No, explanation and reason mean very different things. I made no assumptions about the reason. The fact that no explanation was given is self-evident. — Jonathan Wood 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Giving a reason and giving an explanation can be easily interpreted the same way, @JonathanWood . If that isn't your intent, I would suggest you edit the post to clarify that. — Larnu 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Larnu: No. The words are clear in English. — Jonathan Wood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I'm English; they aren't clear. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Stack Overflow isn't well suited for recommendations. Some alternatives are Uncle Stef's streams on YouTube and from this listPeter Mortensen 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonathan Wood
@Larnu: "Giving a reason" is the same as an explanation. But having a reason is different. I don't feel I need to explain what words mean. I'm done with this discussion. — Jonathan Wood 1 min ago
 
9:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Stack Overflow isn't well suited for recommendations. Some alternatives are Uncle Stef's streams on YouTube and from this listPeter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Stack Overflow isn't well suited for recommendations. Some alternatives are Uncle Stef's streams on YouTube and from this listPeter Mortensen 49 secs ago
 
 
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11:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aaron Cicali
Seems like it would be easy to at least flag answers that were pasted in as opposed to being typed... and that's not something that can be easily cheated. Unlikely anyone will want to retype the ChatGPT answers. While not 100% foolproof, it would likely help enforce this policy at least for now. — Aaron Cicali 51 secs ago
 
11:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco
One of these 3 posts that I commented is false positive (actually links to the SO site, but to a specific page - "stackoverflow.com/help/why-register" at "meta.stackexchange.com/questions/386044/…). — Marco 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco
One more false positive in non-SO post: "stackoverflow.com" in "physics.stackexchange.com/questions/746737/…". Sorry. — Marco 54 secs ago
 

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