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12:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
Actually, @CodyGray you're kind of right, these footnotes by definition will be standard phrases that would be stamped onto relevant posts... That is the point of tags and the tag wiki, to link relevant posts to a central guidance document. But it could end up spawining a lot of meta-tags... — Chris Schaller just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Prid
Great idea, but all the footnotes make the question seem way too cluttered. Have you considered surrounding them in blockquotes? Image comparison (before, after) — Prid just now
 
12:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
It's not about your intent @KarlKnechtel, editing it into the question itself makes the intent ambiguous. If SO gave us a special markdown widget for this or supported actual footnotes then that makes it easier for you to inject the link at the phrase where it might be relevant, and keep the text separate from the actual content. — Chris Schaller 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
BTW, the Linked and Related articles in most cases does a good job at showing related questions. Post your answer, make sure it includes relevant links or key words, then those links are surfaced without affecting the content of the question. — Chris Schaller 1 min ago
 
1:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
It still doesn't make a great deal of sense to retrospectively edit posts (especially old posts) to include this information. You should include the resources that you have exhausted before posting, but if the information in your edit might have led to the post never being posted in the first place, or it ends up contradicting the question, well then that might lead to the question being closed or down-voted because the question itself is less clear. If they had this information, why are they posting? keep s coming back to my mind. — Chris Schaller 21 secs ago
 
2:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Donald Seinen
I reckon if a new user would make such a question edit it wouldn't get past the Edit clearly conflicts with the author's intent option in the review queue. — Donald Seinen 44 secs ago
 
 
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3:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
Bainos: thanks for describing your experience with this. (Or your hypothetical experience, since I think you're saying you only went there after seeing this discussion, and had to try to put yourself in a mindset where you might be confused by it?). Adding a sentence or phrase introducing the footnote was my first thought, too. Perhaps an "Editor's note:" or "For future readers:"? Or perhaps "Additional info added to this canonical question"? (@KarlKnechtel). Possibly even linking to this meta Q&A, although I'd be hesitant to add a link that isn't directly useful to the actual problem. — Peter Cordes 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
I would only reference this post in the comments, in response to a complaint. — Karl Knechtel 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@Cimbali: Indeed, [c][attributes] finds some questions about GCC attributes, some about file attributes. So perhaps unlike Should [local-functions] be a synonym of [nested-function], or do C# local functions warrant a separate tag?, we don't have a situation where using two tags can reliably disambiguate. However, traffic is low enough that we're probably fine. Also, the other usages of the [attributes] tag are less similar in meaning, so a hypothetical gold badge in the tag might be even less meaningful than usual. — Peter Cordes 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
Another problem is that GCC isn't the only compiler supporting the GNU dialect of C and C++. Clang and ICC support most of the same __attribute__((noreturn)), __attribute__((const)), __attribute__((section(".text"))), __attribute__((target("avx"))) and so on. But if we made a [gnu-c-attributes] tag, IDK if many people would find it. Again being low traffic means we don't need to solve the problem. 79 questions tagged [attributes] [c], vs. 12,556 questions tagged [attributes]Peter Cordes 17 secs ago
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5:21 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Never thought a synonym request on Meta would teach me a thing or two about memory order. — rene 23 secs ago
 
5:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@rene: Yeah, while I was writing this, I was thinking "this seems pretty technical for meta", but the reason for this proposed change is rooted in the technical terminology and how to think about the subject. I decided not to hold back since the title is there to warn people away if they don't know about these tags at all. But yeah, I figured presenting it in a way that could educate would be useful to get everyone on the same page, among other things :) — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
 
 
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9:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Presumably some voting ring that targeted you (and likely others) is being cleaned up. The reputation history being wrong has been reported many times already. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
We should either expand the function-attributes tag I just found, or if following the advise by this answer, burn it. I personally don't think attributes is a good tag for any purpose. — Lundin 31 secs ago
 
10:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
If removing the memory barrier tag from a post, just make sure that multiple users aren't fixing it at the same time :P — Lundin 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
On a serious note, I'm not sure if "memory order" is a common technical term outside C++? If not it should indeed be an exclusive tag not at all related to the memory-barrier tag. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Asperi
@ZoestandswithUkraine, is it really proper? how could I be sure? aren't two big bounties received in previous day triggered that? — Asperi 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@Lundin: Hmm, since you mention existing posts, that reminds me: I guess this change wouldn't improve the tags on them until their next edit. Hopefully they'd still show up in searches on [memory-order] if we flip synonyms. Also, re: multiple users editing: ordering can't create atomicity, and atomicity doesn't require ordering wrt. operations on other objects, only a modification order for this atomic object :P But yeah there's a joke in there somewhere. — Peter Cordes 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
In truth, if your question is truly very helpful, it will gain views and votes over time; gaining 1,000's of views or 100's of votes isn't an over night process. — Larnu 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Votes have nothing to do with SEO. Attention on a question has nothing to do with votes. Timing and the right people conveniently being online to see it before it's buried in a pile of other questions, however, is — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Search engines do not use metrics specific on the site they are indexing to bring you the results. Because that would be madness to maintain. Can you imagine making a search engine, which automatically scan pages and then has to have custom logic for each individual site on how to display results from that specific site? If a user types in "bananas" and that is found on several different sites, how would the search engine even consolidate these search results and decide which is best, using the specific site rules to rank the intra-site results? — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Tangential, but also prepare for meta effect. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
Either way I think tweaking these might require someone with domain knowledge to manually go through the 653 existing posts. Doesn't sound like a very sexy task, since it might be too technical to call on the usual burnination crew. — Lundin 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Bounties have nothing to do with reversals. The bounties may have attracted the sock cluster to your account in particular, but speculating why you in particular got targeted is an exercise in guessing and hoping it's relevant. I haven't looked much into the cluster myself, but there's on the order of around 60-120 collateral damage accounts (including yours) with various quantities of cancelled votes. You're not to blame here, to be clear. This unfortunately happens from time to time. I don't have (m)any answers to the "why"s of this particular cluster — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@Lundin: I thought [memory-order] had relevance for other languages (other than C and C++). That's an interesting point to investigate. That proposal (to de-synonymize into memory-barriers+memory fences vs. memory-order+memory-ordering) should probably be an answer, so it can get voted on separately from my answer. — Peter Cordes 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
At least I associate "memory order" with the atomics update in C11/C++11, but then I'm biased (and normally not even using these features). Some languages like Rust appear to have inherited similar features from C++11 though. — Lundin 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@Lundin: It can make sense to ask questions about ordering of memory operations in [java] or C#, even though only effectively seq_cst ordering is available. I don't think [memory-order] was supposed to only be about stdatomic memory_order parameters; and certainly not the [memory-ordering] tag which is another synonym. C and C++ (and I guess Rust) are the main languages I know of that have an actual language feature called memory_order, but that doesn't mean we can't have questions about (reasoning about memory ordering in) other languages sharing the same tag. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
 
 
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12:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
Is there still nothing that can be done about this tag? — DaImTo 17 secs ago
 
12:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
@Mast I'd be fine with losing users that don't want to put any effort in their questions TBH, so even that could be a positive thing, but that's just me. — Marco Bonelli 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"(and likely/potentially downvoted all answers on the dupe target)" considering that up/downvotes are private, what information do you have to denote this was likely? — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mickmackusa
Personal experience after years of interacting often with YCS. — mickmackusa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
TBH, I don't see how your assumption on their voting behaviour is related to the problem here. If, however, someone believes that a duplicate candidate is not useful/helpful and thus reopens the question, downvoting those duplicates (as they perceive them not useful/helpful) does seem correct behaviour; that is, afterall, what votes are for. — Larnu 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
You've used the specific-question tag but not provided a link to the question you are talking about. It'd be nice to have access to the context to evaluate what should happen with the thread/target (and or the proposed duplicate) which seems to be the core of the request here. — Henry Ecker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
It also seems that Dharman engaged you in chat and explained their reasoning. I feel it very one-sided to omit their arguments, especially as they took the time to do so (many users would not, moderator or not). — Larnu 45 secs ago
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by mickmackusa
I've added the link to the question sorry. The dialogue between Dharman and myself is available in the chat link on the page. — mickmackusa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"The dialogue between Dharman and myself is available in the chat link on the page." It is, but I feel that just saying "they refused" is a little disingenuous. They didn't so much refuse, but instead stated that it wouldn't be right for them to do so as they are already involved in the question, and also offered reasons as to why the other question isn't a good candidate. They discussed the problem with you, they didn't refuse you. — Larnu 1 min ago
 
1:16 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mast
@MarcoBonelli That's fair. — Mast 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mickmackusa
The end result was a refusal. I wanted to keep the question relatively short because MSO seems to hate my mile-long questions. @Larnu — mickmackusa 1 min ago
 
1:51 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
No, we should stop maintaining it. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
2:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
The edit by Your Common Sense is to change the title... in a way that, to me, makes it pretty clear why the question is not a duplicate. The old question simply sought a way to get all the rows as one result, and was satisfied by the row results being associative arrays. The new question is specifically about looking for a different version of the thing that gets the associative-array result, in order to get an object result instead (without manual iteration). The new answers indicate that this is not supported. — Karl Knechtel 15 secs ago
 
 
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3:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Prid quote formatting is (as the name suggests) for formatting quotes. Please do not format text that as a quote when it doesn't represent a quote from another source. — VLAZ 28 secs ago
 
3:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark
The idea behind @Prid's two versions is why I was curious about this. Stack Overflow does a lot of A/B testing to make sure the interface & presentation of information works for user. When individuals start adding ad-hoc structural changes to the site (which I think adding a new section to questions is), we side-step that process. We all have opinions about what looks best, but none of us will have data about what actually works best. If there is consensus that this sort of addition is useful, Stack Overflow should provide guidance before we have a bunch of different versions in the wild. — Mark 1 min ago
 
 
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5:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
@DaImTo as a formality, can you please add answers to 4 questions outlined in the FAQ? After that, as soon as the post reaches 20 votes, it will be pretty much guaranteed to be included in the burnination process. While it make take some time to get to this tag specifically, it has a manageable amount of questions to go through, so it'll likely not be too long before it's burned. First, a mod will feature it for a day, then folks will join in by closing off-topic posts, and editing out the tag from salvageable ones. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 14 secs ago
 
5:51 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
@OlegValteriswithUkraine can you review my update. Not 100% sure i even understand what the last point is asking. Im happy to spend a few minutes each day in the mean time to clean it up. My main question is how to ensure that no new questions get tagged with this after the burn. — DaImTo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
@DaImTo thanks for updating! I'll take a look shortly, but it should be enough as is from a cursory glance. Please abstain from editing it out, though, before the process reaches stage 3 (a mod will add a notice to the post) - the process for burnination is very formal (as it is enforced by the company as well), so it's considered as jumping the gun (although do feel free to edit it out if you are just editing a post as normal with other changes if you feel there are better tags - just don't target it specifically for now). As for after the burn, it should be deleted by the system after [1/2] — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
[2/2] 24 hours provided no new questions with it appear, but we keep watch on "zombies" both manually and with automation like Rodgort, so should be fine. There's always a chance that a user with 1.5K+ rep will recreate it, but I am personally in the process of developing a tag watcher bot to prevent these things from slipping past us. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
 
6:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
Just as an FYI, this is RodgortOleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
 
6:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
This is just a wording problem. "Useful ways of doing something" is just a... weird way of saying "How do i do this thing", answerers are generally expected to provide useful solutions, not useless ones. — Kevin B 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott Sauyet
@KevinB: Hmm, of course. I'll drop the word. But that doesn't seem like enough of a reason for three down-votes and a closure. (I spend much more time answering than asking, so maybe I'm just not used to it.) — Scott Sauyet 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
Your solution does not clearly relate to the problem. Is the issue that the answers are wrong, outdated, or not attempting to answer the question? These are three different problems, with arguably three different solutions. — Ryan M ♦ 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott Sauyet
Thank you. I got rid of the "useful" qualifier. I was simply looking for alternative techniques. I'll check to see if there are other similar instances to remove. As to the closed-twice bit, I was trying to set this apart from those badly-handled questions; it sounds like I conflated them instead. Oops! I guess I'll try to remove that as well. I certainly don't equate close votes with downvotes; I also use them very differently. — Scott Sauyet 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@ScottSauyet For what it's worth, I think the question would be best if it just focused on what you closed with, "how to turn a collection of functions into a function that generates a collection of nodes from a selector and allows you to chain those functions as methods on this collection." That's a clear, specific, and objective request that anyone can answer. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
NAA flags already go into the LQ review queue. However, we don't delete answers just because they are wrong/outdated (the proposed flagging for 1 & 2 implies that). I'm not sure how 3 works. 4 is clear enough. — Andrew T. 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott Sauyet
Thanks for the explanation. I vote on many questions, and don't think I would ever vote to close because a question is seeking alternative approaches, but it's good to know that others do see that as a problem. (So far the Meta Effect hasn't been strong; it's gone from +0-3 to +1-4 so far.) — Scott Sauyet 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott Sauyet
You're absolutely right, and the edit you made is very helpful and much appreciated. — Scott Sauyet 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
@ScottSauyet With the edits, I was considering a reopen vote ... but I was too late. :) — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
You can't nuke most outdated answers. There will still be folks struggling with legacy systems where the answer is still correct. If the answer has become harmful or has been subsequently discovered to be harmful... That is a problem. — user4581301 17 secs ago
 
7:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
This process is fascinating. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to help or support this worthy cause. — DaImTo 1 min ago
 
7:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
I didn't propose removing outdated/wrong answers, neither did the linked discussion. It's important to at least mark them as such. — polkovnikov.ph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
@RyanM I don't understand how I failed to communicate the problem in the description above, but I'll reiterate: there are wrong/outdated/not-an-answers that are upvoted and keep being upvoted. It signifies someone is still using them in their production. Neither their authors nor readers are at wrong here, the problem is that at the moment there is no way to explicitly communicate the answer is wrong. — polkovnikov.ph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
1. The proposed solution didn't ask for moderation attention, it specifically tells to put it into review queues, or to collect votes. Particularly, it asked to put "not an answer" handling from moderators to reviewers, because, as you said, moderators are not subject matter experts. — polkovnikov.ph 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
2. The good mechanics are already figured out in close votes: several votes, matching reasons, review queue, gold badge to close singledhandledly. — polkovnikov.ph 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Flags go to moderators, that's generally how you attract their attention. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
3. This is like delete votes, except we don't really want to delete outdated and wrong answers, either because they're still salvageable, or hold historic value. — polkovnikov.ph 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
2. Close as off topic is easy. We can all recognise a question about peeling a banana is not about programming. Could you recognise a wrong answer in a programming language you've never seen before? — Robert Longson 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
4. I don't know what to comment, other than I'm aware that it exists. I've never seen a discussion there to handle the other offenders: wrong and not-an-answers. — polkovnikov.ph just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
2. If the flag provides a description of why the answer is wrong/not-an-answer, it shouldn't require much expertise. In mentioned examples, there is a case when an answer by industry leader recommend a drag and drop library for a question asking for a way to drag something around, where two things only happen to use the word "drag" for completely different concepts, and another case when the lag can be observed just by running provided code snippet. Neither requires profound knowledge of frontend development to reproduce. — polkovnikov.ph 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elliott B
It's too bad the site doesn't support inline CSS. It would be easier to use style="transform:scale(0.5)" instead of calculating the width of each image. — Elliott B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
"wrong/outdated/not-an-answers" these are three different things. Answers that don't attempt to answer the question asked can be mod-flagged with an explanation of how they don't attempt to answer it. Answers that are wrong must have attempted to answer the question in order to be wrong ("Tuesdays, unless it's raining" is not a wrong answer to "How to reverse a list in JavaScript?", for instance). And outdated answers are neither wrong nor non-answers: they're correct, but for a previous version of the system. — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
Regarding the edit: do you need to be a subject expert matter to verify if provided code snippet is a cpu hog? SO is already a place where users are somewhat subject experts: they're programmers. For example, here (stackoverflow.com/a/26453440/1872046) it was easy to communicate to at least 8 people this is not a proper answer to the question. In case the wrongness is so intricate that queue jury actually lack expert knowledge to support or deny it, probably it's just not such a big issue, and certainly not the majority of cases when the answer is blatantly wrong. — polkovnikov.ph 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
If the answers are wrong, why have you not downvoted them? Subject mater experts (SMEs) downvoting wrong/unhelpful/bad (but not an outdated answer which clearly says to what versions it does/doesn't apply), in addition to upvoting correct/helpful ones, is a critical part of having quality content on Stack Overflow/Stack Exchange. [Note: I don't know anything about specifically your votes on those posts, but like all users with > 1k rep, I can see that many/most of those answers have no downvotes, so, obviously, you didn't downvote the ones with no downvotes.] — Makyen ♦ 25 secs ago
 
8:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
@Makyen For two reasons: there are two pages of them, and some of the wrong answers are just new. — polkovnikov.ph 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Mark the idea behind my comment was not to criticise the screenhot. It's that formatting something as a quote when it is not a quote is wrong. And suggesting to do it shows that the user thinks it's acceptable thing to do. It's not a matter of A/B testing how it would look - it just shouldn't be done for looks. At all. Ever. Formatting carries with it meaning "and" "non" "quotes" "showing" "as" "quotes" "is" "quite" "annoying" "to" "mentally" "parse". \ — VLAZ 28 secs ago
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
@Makyen For two main reasons: there are two pages of them, and some of the wrong answers are just new. Also, the whole idea of downvoting them is pointless, because it will drop answers with a rating of 6 to 5, and not mark them as what they are: wrong. — polkovnikov.ph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark
@VLAZ my comment wasn't directed at yours. I totally agree with you — you're preaching to the choir. My point is that different users will have different ideas about how to implement this…none will have the benefit of user testing. They are essentially making a new feature on the site. And in the version linked in the question the text is formatted with the <sub> tag, which like quotes and code, has specific meaning and isn't meant to be used solely for presentation. — Mark 9 secs ago
 
9:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@ScottSauyet note that there is significant difference between "here is my approach but I'm looking for alternatives because ..." and "let's list all approaches as answers". Lack of "correctness" criteria in the later one makes such questions too-broad/opinion-based, especially when it is clear there are plenty of possible approaches (like in your case of "implement fluent interface in XXX" question - there plenty of opinions/approaches for all sorts of languages, and scoping it down to JavaScript was not enough) — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott Sauyet
@AlexeiLevenkov: An interesting distinction. i — Scott Sauyet 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@ScottSauyet writing a self-answered question is in my opinion the hardest way to contribute to SO. I'd recommend reading meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/314165/… - and be less concerned about unsuccessful (from your point of view) attempt. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott Sauyet
@AlexeiLevenkov: Thank you. That was a great read and very much on point. It explains a lot. — Scott Sauyet 20 secs ago
 
10:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
I remain unpersuaded on your explanation that these questions are "clearly" asking for the same thing. Asking how to get all results from an SQL call is not the same as mapping all results to an object from an SQL call. — Makoto 49 secs ago
 
10:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
sub and sup tags are the only way I know to get text smaller than the default in Stack Overflow's flavour of Markdown. I would definitely appreciate a proper alternative. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
11:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
@Makyen Unfortunately, I'm out of votes for today, but there actually wasn't a single correct answer... — polkovnikov.ph 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
@Makyen Unfortunately, I'm out of votes for today, but there actually wasn't a single correct answer. Now we need exactly 1337 more downvotes to get the only plausibly correct answer on top. — polkovnikov.ph 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mickmackusa
Pfft. I find MSO (as per usual) irritately unhelpful. Both questions are literally seeking an array of objects in one call. If you can't see that truth, I don't know how to explain it to you any clearer. — mickmackusa 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@polkovnikov.ph you could be wrong too, perhaps the answer was correct but you only think it is wrong. Which is why your downvote brings that answer down from 6 to 5. But if the answer really is wrong then others will agree and also downvote. It would help if you left a comment explaining why the answer is wrong, so it is easier for others to spot the mistake and vote accordingly. Or, perhaps correct the error. But you alone don’t get to have a veto on what is right or wrong. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
@MartijnPieters That's why for every answer I provided a comment with a counterexample. — polkovnikov.ph 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Downvoting is only pointless if no one votes down. Don’t be that guy that doesn’t vote. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Hey, don't bite my head off. I don't care about PHP, like at all. I just don't think this is a duplicate and I don't see how your explanation of how it is assuages my skepticism. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
Where are those 1337 people that should have downvoted? Well, yes, it seems no one votes down. Don't want to be that guy that uses up my daily vote cap. — polkovnikov.ph 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polkovnikov.ph
I don't know if it's obvious only to me, but there is no incentive to downvote. It's exactly the reverse: you get punished with -1s to your own reputation. — polkovnikov.ph 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mickmackusa
Well, for an uninterested party, you are supporting the fracturing of content. I really expected a more collaborative and system-centric response from all veteran users involved in the scenario and discussion. This is one more straw on the back of the camel where I hang up my hammer and stop wasting my time with curation. I should just start GordonLinoff'ing every dupe I find instead of voting to close. — mickmackusa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
@ScottSauyet note that questions that ask for lists (like ‘alternative approaches’) are deemed too broad. Stick to questions where you can expect one best answer, not several. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Your explanation of why these are dupes focuses on the mechanics of how data is retrieved from the database, not the intent of what to do with that data, which is where I draw the distinction. If you want to collaborate, be more open to feedback when someone disagrees with your perspective as opposed to taking whatever action "Gordon Linoff'ing" happens to be. — Makoto 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mickmackusa
GordonLinoff'ing us where you answer questions that you know are duplicates and most of the time, you have answered them before - yourself. — mickmackusa 39 secs ago
 

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