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12:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
I agree with that, but the edit queue is too mobile. It's not full when you start an edit, but is full by the time you finish and is full when you start, but might not be by the time you finish. That sort of moving target is a <expletive deleted> to code. — user4581301 32 secs ago
 
 
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1:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 77-1
@MisterM - I actually meant stand-alone bulk loads. Like "I have gazillion rows to append to my table and it takes forever" kind of complaints. — PM 77-1 1 min ago
 
1:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rohit Gupta
It's in StackOverflow now and I hate it. It should have been a setup option !!! If it was really about contrast, then a whole heap of other things should have been changed. — Rohit Gupta 1 min ago
 
2:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan Fu
No, I don't mean that it'd be just like the edit queue, just the formatting of clicking it and red text showing "the queue is full" instead of giving a flag screen that you can't actually do anything with would be more helpful. — Ryan Fu 22 secs ago
 
2:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Consider editing your main site question and within the question review the answers in the proposed duplicate and show explicitly why those answers don't solve your most specific question. Also, your question that you've linked to has not been deleted but rather has been closed as a duplicate. It still exists and can be re-opened if enough folk believe that it has been closed erroneously and that it is on-topic for this site. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
And now the question has been re-opened — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Also, an unrelated suggestion: Your question has the line, "Please help asap. I have a deadline", and I urge you to delete that and any similar statements. Your question is no more important than any other question on this site, and suggesting otherwise can have the opposite effect intended: it can attract unwanted down-votes and close-votes. Please see Under what circumstances may I add “urgent” or other similar phrases to my question, in order to obtain faster answers?Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NationWidePants
@CodyGray In the case of Kernel development it's not Network, unless you consider IPC to be a networking service, which would be an odd claim. — NationWidePants 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Kravetz
Alright man...I'm a noob. Thanks for the insight. — Jon Kravetz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Note that just like edit queue getting full while you edit, you can get flag-banned while you are flagging. So review your proposal to take that into account. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
3:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NationWidePants
@CodyGray "Many research on QoS have been done for CPUs where processes can be preempted, and time-multiplexed without degrading performance [ 7, 10, 12, 35, 46]" - as proof this has nothing to do with networking, though they mention examples where it might. — NationWidePants 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
Well, yours does on Meta ... — pppery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NationWidePants
@CodyGray "Many research on QoS have been done for CPUs where processes can be preempted, and time-multiplexed without degrading performance [ 7, 10, 12, 35, 46]" - as proof this has nothing to do with networking, unless you're claiming there's XOR in regard to these references. — NationWidePants 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
This isn't possible through SEDE because deleted posts are scrubbed. The best you could do is search for oldest un-deleted post which would be a different metric than the one you are asking for. — Henry Ecker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
The title and first paragraph are the same, and germane to the question that was asked. The rest is not; it's about C++. — Cody Gray ♦ 47 secs ago
 
3:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NullPointerException
I tried to edit the question to make it easier to answer, but it still assumes that SEDE query results include all deleted posts and their UIDs and creation dates. I'm open to considering a different metric for what a "good" first question is — NullPointerException 31 secs ago
 
4:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Just noticed that the buttons with the new styling turn the triangles gray when the post is locked (and thus the vote buttons are non-interactive). Example image; link to an actual locked post for demonstration purposes (for those lucky victims of the A/B test) — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
 
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5:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by not a robot
@Dharman The edit corrected mistakes in the html. Did you reject it because those mistakes are possibly one of the causes of why the code doesn't run (and correcting it obscures that aspect of the question) or did you reject it because it touches the code period? — not a robot 1 min ago
 
6:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
In addition to duplicates provided by @Cody please check out meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/260776/… (your post is on big "thank you note" and I don't see how it can be converted into on-topic question) — Alexei Levenkov 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
Super narrow tags perhaps can be easily merged, but what about the unspecific ones that may refer to multiple frameworks? Then a single-click-merge requires disambiguation first — blackgreen 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Lack of demonstrated effort is not a close reason... Downvotes are for that. I'm not really sure why OP decided to feature post with zero effort to solve it on meta. On other hand this is Python question - based on answer (which is quite crazy-looking to me without any Python knowledge) Python may not even have basic for loop (also I'm sure I've seen some) suitable for the question... maybe indeed it is a good question and can't be easily answered without special knowledge... — Alexei Levenkov 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
I've gone ahead and edited the question to reduce some redundancy and get straight to the point. That should remove some unclarity from building up the requirements. I think the example could be further condensed by using numbers instead of strings, but that would be more for making it better suited as a duplicate target. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tsyvarev
Ok, C++ tag reduces validity of that generic question as a duplicate for C questions. While in the reference list of the first answer there are about half references are equally valid both for C and C++. "Yes, the author of the question made no attempt to link with the other file. That's because they didn't know they needed to do so. That was, in fact, the whole point of the question." - And it is the whole point of the referenced answer: it tells that one needs to link. This alone should give a hint, even If example in the answer doesn't fit well to the actual situation. — Tsyvarev 1 min ago
 
7:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@JonKravetz The word you are looking for is "uninformed". You can do something about that. — Gimby 29 secs ago
 
7:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Almost all content for us to be able to answer your question should be in the question itself. There are very few exception to this, and videos aren't one of them. It is very unlikely people will want to watch a video to be able to begin to assist you. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
I think a lot of people are not going to want to spend time watch a video to understand someone's problem. There as so many questions posted on Stack Overflow that you really only have a few seconds to grab someone's attention before they decide to look at another question. — greg-449 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@notarobot These weren't mistakes. I see nothing wrong with the current code. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by not a robot
@Dharman the number of opening and closing div tags are different. Isn't that a mistake? — not a robot 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@notarobot Can you explain why would that be a mistake? — Dharman ♦ 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EzioMercer
@animuson Can you please set status-bydesign tag? — EzioMercer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Maybe it's some caching somewhere... — Cerbrus just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F. Hauri
@Cerbrus Opened Curious badges for f-hauri in another browser, still no badge. — F. Hauri 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
It is probably best if you post some example here, because only the first bullet in that list is guaranteed off-topic. Let's not steamroll ahead and keep the option on the table that your "feeling" is simply incorrect. — Gimby 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
I'm not talking about client-side caching, here. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F. Hauri
Hmmm ... somewhere, on server side, then!? Ok. — F. Hauri 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
I don't think even the greatest SEDE wizards will be able to pull this off. (shush quiet. This is a tactic, I'm making them jump out of the woodwork). — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
All bugs on this site can be explained by caching. Not all of them will go away if caching would be turned off though. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Give it a day. Badge batches run in-frequently, some batches only runs once per 24 hours. — rene 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Why would you want to do this? How do you expect the video to help make the question clearer? Posting images is already far inferior to showing code, errors, etc. as properly formatted text. A video seems like going even further in the wrong direction. — Karl Knechtel 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
[ Boson ] New comment posted by phry
Redux maintainer here. This is generally a problem. Your question is perfectly valid. Unfortunately, people are still answering Redux questions without having revisited the docs for over three years and answer with completely outdated knowledge. I don't really know what to do about that, just want to tell you I'm sorry for the experience. — phry 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F. Hauri
@RobertLongson I've searched for duplicates before posting! But on wrong place!? Sorry. — F. Hauri 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GrafiCode
@Dharman reviewer had proposed to change <div> with </div> (twice), I think that's what notarobot is asking about — GrafiCode 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
@F.Hauri don't worry, you are not expected to search on MSE when you are on MSO (and vice versa), Robert just added a link as an FYI (there is no native way to close as a duplicate of a cross-site target regardless). — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by phry
@HovercraftFullOfEels Honestly, this is a perfectly valid question and (reviewing all edits) had all the information that made it very obvious that OP is using the official Redux Toolkit (where you are allowed to modify state), not the outdated "plain vanilla" (where this is not allowed). This is just a case of people voting for duplicates without reading or understanding the question. — phry 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Since I can see that a lot of confusion was created when the asker omitted the optional closing tags, I decided to add them to the MCVE. The suggested edit proposed to completely alter the HTML structure. If you are not sure if the code change is a formatting one of changes the meaning, the safe option is to reject the edit. — Dharman ♦ 27 secs ago
 
9:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Videos are good for tutoring, not for asking questions. — Gimby 21 secs ago
 
9:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
When would I use either of those tags instead of simply using html or xml for my markdown? — Braiam 8 secs ago
 
9:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
The irony that this question got through the quality filter, when what ever the OP actually wants to ask didn't... 😞 — Larnu 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What kind of content? The same rules as for screenshots apply: Why not upload images of code/errors when asking a question?Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
Would you care to explain what you were trying to post? — Ryan M ♦ 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Do you see what it says right after "check to make sure that your question has the following:"? It should be a list of things that your question should have. You should look at your question, and ask yourself: does it have the first thing on this list? if it does not, then fix the question so that it does. Repeat this for everything in the list. The message says that "All new questions are subjected to a "minimum quality" filter that checks for some basic indicators of a good, complete question.", because that is what happened. — Karl Knechtel 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Should these sort of edits be made if this is the only change?" If the edit system actually worked properly (you know, like a VCS), then it would be preferable to use a separate edit to remove the fluff, vs. other improvements. That would allow others to be selective when making rollbacks if they dispute your changes. — Karl Knechtel 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@phry: honestly, why are you directing your comment to me? I was not the person who voted to close the question on the main site, nor do you know who down-voted this question or the main site question? Your assumptions are not good or true and are not well received — Hovercraft Full Of Eels just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"It's sad that good manners are considered 'noise'." An ideal, high quality question has one person asking, one or more - but probably very close to one - people answering, and perhaps literally millions of people finding the question later with a search engine, digging it up while checking that their own questions aren't duplicates, stumbling upon it while browsing the site, etc. "Thanks" directed from the asker to the answerer is a courtesy to the answerer, and a waste of precious milliseconds of time, multiplied by potentially millions, to everyone else. — Karl Knechtel 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@phry: do you know why I made my comment to certainperformance on the main question? — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
(it's also distracting: it breaks the mental flow of people who are reading the question to verify that it matches what they wanted to ask.) — Karl Knechtel 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@HenryEcker We can approximate, if we suppose that effectively all deleted posts were asked by a first-time asker. I suspect this isn't that far from the truth. — Karl Knechtel 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NationWidePants
@ZoestandswithUkraine Ah, ok. The uses on stackoverflow have almost all been wrong, I agree, but the examples I provided both present ideas about how to program in such a way as to provide more efficient programming for threading and access to hardware, for example. It's a method of programming and does still seem like a valid tag, but I would agree, not in the way it has been used. — NationWidePants 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"pretty much every cause of undefined reference has its own canonical target, and in this case ... seems to be the appropriate one" How exactly are duplicate closers intended to find the matching one? How did you find this one, for example? I can't imagine it's much fun; I expect there are a lot of undescriptive and unhelpful titles, since by definition the people who asked the original questions used for the canonicals didn't know why they had an undefined reference. How do you even write good titles for something like that, after the fact? — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Even if your question was about an undefined reference when compiling a C++ program, I don't think that target is appropriate. It's what is often referred to as an "RTFM target"" The top answer there is trying pretty hard. It's at least organized, and has a list of places to look. If I could redo the whole thing from scratch, I would make sure that one answer had just that list, with intervening text between the question titles to explain the sorts of causes, and ways to check if that is the cause. Then the explanation of the compilation model would go in a separate answer. — Karl Knechtel 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
(And of course, there would have to be a separate question for [c].) — Karl Knechtel 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NationWidePants
@ZoestandswithUkraine I see what you mean, now. Although the tag hasn't been used in a application development, I could see potential use for efficient code writing for speed without performance degradation, especially in regard to embedded systems, but I can understand where you're coming from. — NationWidePants 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by phry
@HovercraftFullOfEels because here you suggest that OP should edit their question to show why the "suggested duplicate" does not apply. The "suggested duplicate" is about a completely different technology and terribly out of place. Should the conclusion really be that every question about python is prefixed with "I have reviewed all possible answers on a question about C#, and now I will present why C# solutions do not apply to python"? (changing technologies here to make the disconnect more obvious for someone not in the ecosystem) — phry 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
It was merged (and thus suspended animation (locked)) about 4 hours later with C header issue: #include and "undefined reference". "mac os""macOS". — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@phry: My recommendation is the standard recommendation for any question closed as a duplicate. I have very little knowledge in this corner of programming which is why I gave the OP that comment. I also commented to certainperformance because he was the gold-tag member who dupe-hammered the question closed, and because of my comment, he immediately re-opened the question. I also did not down-vote on any of the questions. Again, I ask, how did my actions hurt the OP and just what did I do that was wrong? — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NationWidePants
@ZoestandswithUkraine I see what you mean, now. The references I provided, I believe, show how it could be used to aid programmers in coding IPC, threads, and microservices. — NationWidePants 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by phry
@HovercraftFullOfEels I'm sorry if you felt attacked by this - I just tried to give the context that OPs question is perfectly fine on it's own and that I don't think that they need to add any of this information. I did not mean to attack you. — phry 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Exactly as the first comment asked you: "So what is the problem you have in doing that? Do you know how to access a list at a specific index and modify the value there? Do you know how to increment an index with 5 repeatedly in a loop?" So - do you know how to do both of those things? If you do know, then isn't the problem solved if you just put them together? If you don't know, then which one don't you know? And did you try to research that? — Karl Knechtel 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Do you need the absolute numbers or just relative ones? — Peter Mortensen 9 secs ago
 
11:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Also note that using "too broad" as a reason for closing simple code requests is again something that is not officially recorded, and many users frown upon." The thing about this is that even tasks that are solved with relatively simple code, can be "too broad" in that they logically consist of multiple steps (and OP hasn't attempted to identify those steps, or figure out where the sticking point is). This seems to be especially the case in Python, because of the power and simplicity of the language; this may have something to do with why OP notices the problem with Python questions so much. — Karl Knechtel 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
I really disagree with the logic underlying justifications for downvoting questions but not trying to get them closed and deleted. What purpose does it serve to keep around questions that everyone agrees to be "unclear" and/or "not useful"? Why hold on to queries that are redundant with existing resources, and can't be explained more clearly? For that matter, isn't "unclear" already an explicit close reason? I thought the point of Stack Overflow was to host useful information so that others can find it with a search engine and be helped. Why host things that aren't searchable? — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurenz Albe
@KarlKnechtel I was speaking about closing, not downvoting. The post is old; the close reason "too broad" has been renamed to "Needs more focus". — Laurenz Albe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Questions asking for homework help must include a summary of the work you've done so far to solve the problem, and a description of the difficulty you are having solving it." -- Straight out of stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic, item 4" 8 years later (it probably happened a while ago, really): this is no longer there. — Karl Knechtel 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"If someone asks, "How do I do X?" and I know how to do X, do I care (beyond perhaps hope for some TDWTF-style amusement) what abortive attempts they've made that've failed to produce results?" It depends what X is. If X is truly simple and straightforward, sure, we should just write something. If X can be logically broken down into two or more steps (even if it's a one-liner to do all of those steps!), the point of asking what OP tried is to diagnose OP's understanding of X - in particular, how it decomposes, and what parts OP actually needs help with. IOW, it's a hint at "too broad". — Karl Knechtel just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NationWidePants
@ZoestandswithUkraine To that I have another, related question, then: Is IaC code or is it also a meta discussion? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrastructure_as_codeNationWidePants 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
I'm fully aware of the renaming. I was making a general observation about the other meta post, and I take your side that closing is the right thing to do. — Karl Knechtel 28 secs ago
 
12:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
After several years, I have come to the conclusion that the problem is technical rather than social. The solution to the quality problem is to make it so that the answers can't be written until the quality of the question is assured. After all, there is no rush. Questions should be closed by default. The comments should be used specifically to highlight potential problems that would be close reasons now, even as a chatroom; if/when everything is ironed out, open the question and automatically wipe any comments prior to the opening. — Karl Knechtel 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Prid
@CodyGray: ironically that looks better and should've been the default color for interactive state ^^; but this will only add to the confusion... — Prid 1 min ago
 
12:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Larnu - They could just edit their question. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
58k and he cares for that impressive. As i got some batches, i noticed the lag immediately and knew without reading that the scripts wasn't run in the time that i watched — nbk 1 min ago
 
1:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
That first sentence is an overgeneralization that someone can probably find an exception to... I'd suggest removing it, as it doesn't add much to the answer... — Cerbrus 1 min ago
 
1:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
Just wondering... How are SE designers going to center a 18x10 px arrow within a 45x45 px circle? — MrUpsidown 1 min ago
 
1:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Why can it not just be some arbitrary binary..? — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@Larnu That's UNIX EPOCH — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
It's the date it starts on (traditionally), @Dharman , but that's not the point I am making here. — Larnu 1 min ago
 
2:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
Also, the complete lack of coffee (stains) in the picture suggests that these folks might not be programmers at all. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
Maybe the sign in the background is supposed to say "Jolt Cola"? — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
A whole lot of people seem to independently of each other associate these with elevator buttons. The digit between them would be your current floor. Hmm. — Lundin 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
More disturbingly... why does the woman on the right appear to have no knees? :p — Jon Clements ♦ 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
@JonClements Maybe she's a cast member of imdb.com/title/tt1517268 ? — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 1 min ago
 
2:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@user229044, the second, I guess. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
 
3:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NullPointerException
I'd appreciate both, but relative would be preferred — NullPointerException 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NullPointerException
@PeterMortensen I'd appreciate both, but relative would be preferred — NullPointerException 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TGrif
"Videos are good for tutoring"... if you like video for tutoring. Personally I always prefer text @Gimby. — TGrif 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by NullPointerException
All deleted posts are "sensitive data" UNLESS they have been un-deleted by the user. The question has been reworded, so now there's no need to consider deleted posts. — NullPointerException 17 secs ago
 
4:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin
Also in issue #132 :) — Justin 16 secs ago
 
 
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5:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@AlexeiLevenkov: Let me be explicit. I never stated that would be a reason to close the question. I'm stating it's a reason for me to not want to reopen the question. Why would I want to reopen a question that I'm just going to downvote anyway? — Makoto 1 min ago
 
5:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jfriend00
Yep, still a problem 8 years later. You vote to close a question as "unclear, needs details". They provide the details and now it's a clear duplicate. Can't do anything about that. with the system as it is, it removes reasons for voting to close "needs details" because sometimes when the details are provided, it needs to be closed for a different reason and you can't do anything about that. — jfriend00 45 secs ago
 
6:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
There is also an obvious lack of stale, months-old pepperoni underneath the potted plant. — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Even the image knows the old vote buttons are superior — Kevin B 1 min ago
 
6:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The plants seem to be neglected. — Peter Mortensen 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
A "burning" question. — Peter Mortensen 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
How much is literal (message from the system)? From "All new questions"? Or none of it? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
7:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Cerbrus it's a question that you need to ask yourself if you want to understand the fundamental concepts behind the site topic. Without the first sentence you do not have the first paragraph, and without it you do not have the later one. It's a generalization, becuause no one will ever find anything that will be universally recognized as programming that doesn't fulfill that condition. That's why despite being a generalization, it's something that will be impossible to find an exception to. Because programming is esentially about creating a process, not about their inputs/outputs. — Braiam 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Take action on it outside of the review system so that it isn't a valid audit anymore. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luuklag
Well as an OP you are expected to put some effort into your question. Transcribing these few lines wouldn't be too much to ask IMHO. — Luuklag 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
IDE questions have a bit of a checkered history here @Luuklag; in most cases yes, we want the text as much as possible as that can be indexed, but if there's enough text around what the error is and the image shows the specific error, that's generally OK. Note that I'm not the OP on this - haven't had to mess with XCode in damn near 10 years - but I have dealt with IntelliJ questions in this similar vein. — Makoto 1 min ago
 
7:54 PM
@KarlKnechtel yes, one might argue that if the answer is "please read a tutorial" then the question is too broad. But in reality these "too lazy to learn first" and "won't RTFM" questions have very specific scope and very focussed answers. So it's usually a stretch to close them as too broad. — Andras Deak -- Слава Україні 45 secs ago
 
8:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Someone put a downvote on the audit's question now - so it will no longer be "known-good audit". (Since the image is not "picture of the code" and tech is not I'm familiar with I don't know if image is required to understand the question or purely supplemental - based on votes it is quite possible that problem is well understood by title alone... but I can't definitely provide it as "answer" here) — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@AlexeiLevenkov: No one should've put a downvote on the question. The question is still appropriate for the site and is a good audit for IDE-style questions, which tend to bend the conventions a bit. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by williamdnapier
I agree with most of comments which say the new voting arrows are too large and/or don't fit with the rest of the design. I don't feel that saying they don't fit is subjective. They simply don't match the rest of the design elements. Maybe the entire UI should be updated; I don't know. As I think back to my graphic design professors or mentors I shudder to think of what their comments would have been regarding such an out of place element. Let's just say it was the '90s and no one wore kid gloves during design critiques, lol. — williamdnapier 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
When trying to solve something that involves an error message, it is imperative that you include the error message(s) in plain text for searchability, regardless of how inconvenient it may be. — Kevin B 51 secs ago
 
9:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
Ah, the old "under certain conditions," which we're not going to tell you what they are! — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"These are likely to get deleted over time anyways." Asking nearly 5 years later: by what process? I looked again just now and the results still seem pretty bad. E.g. stackoverflow.com/questions/40948108 is a pure debugging question with no debugging effort, completely unsearchable... and has survived the entire time, reaching +5. If properly MREd and retitled, it might be something like "Why can't I .replace part of my string with an integer?". — Karl Knechtel 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
I suggest that asking a good question on Stack Overflow can be tough, especially if the expected research hasn't been performed. — Andrew Morton 21 secs ago
 
9:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@HansPassant The problem is that people will keep asking the question whether it ought to be on the site or not. Closing as a duplicate question is efficient. We can't close as a duplicate of external documentation. More importantly: the documentation cleanly answers questions like "what does foobar() do?", but it's usually much worse at answering "what should I use to do <the thing that foobar() does>?". — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Now this post is way too broad to serve as a good canonical." Related: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/418516Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Get the agreement of authors via comments, explain your approach" seems unlikely to work in a lot of cases. Some of the best potential-canonical material is old and abandoned. — Karl Knechtel 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@JeffreyBosboom The problem is that if block-snapping is required, the question is almost certainly too broad. As a hammer-wielder, I often close as one block, edit in the dupe link for the other block, and use a comment to explain how they snap together. That gets a bad question closed and also allows OP to walk away satisfied. If there comes to be a pattern where people want to snap the same blocks together, the decision can be reconsidered. (Edit: I see that this wasn't an option in 2015 when the question was originally asked. What a pity.) — Karl Knechtel 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TGrif
What happend to your user avata usr @NullPointerException ? — TGrif 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@livingtech it needs to be voted to reopen, and then voted to close again. If you have a gold badge in one of the question's tag and you were not involved in the original closure, you can unilaterally close once the question is reopened; but reopening the question is harder. The SO Close Vote Room may be able to help. — Karl Knechtel 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
This is still infinitely better than when OP just screenshots the entire IDE window. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TGrif
I'm still curious... Why is this question even migrated to mso @RyanM? — TGrif 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael Szczesny
My Google's first hit is stackoverflow.com/questions/899103/… even without site operator. My DDG search results for programming related topics are notoriously bad. — Michael Szczesny 47 secs ago
 
10:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sylvester Kruin
I was torn between upvoting this post because of the attempts to meet contrast requirements, and downvoting it because it looked bad. Until I realized, in reading various answers and comments, that it actually doesn't meet WCAG requirements. Guess I'll have to downvote yet another "site improvement" meta post. — Sylvester Kruin 16 secs ago
 
10:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CramerTV
Searched for the subject question, got the answer, came to see what all the fuss was about in meta. My two cents. Is this site ONLY for information that can't be found elsewhere? If so, then sure, delete it. But every day there are people learning (and in my case forgetting) how to work with javascript. I appreciate googling something and seeing links to this site because it has such good answers. Sure, mozilla and W3 schools has good documentation, but I always appreciate seeing the plethora of answers and the discussion about various approaches. — CramerTV 42 secs ago
 
11:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Good to know. I have usually had better luck with DDG, and I prefer to avoid Google services where I can (sadly my email is far too strongly tied to them to fix it now). That's certainly much more popular, and higher quality, but: the asker already knows how to solve the problem; the asker is focused on a tangential facet (dealing with the newlines); and the answers are outdated, randomly bring up pickle etc. I had hoped for something at a more introductory level. — Karl Knechtel 5 secs ago
 
11:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Reviewing that question further: the OP clearly was asking the question I want to have as a canonical; but between the original title and the answers, it appears that everyone interpreted it as a more generic question about how to serialize a data structure into a file, rather than how to write output with a very specific format. That is also a very important canonical to have, but it would entail rewriting the question more or less entirely (to match what people answered) and I'm kinda leery of that. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 

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